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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Amigo on 01 April 2011, 22:44:31
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The Beastie needs a head gasket. Has'nt been cooked, just a leak, no damage done. I've had two offers to fit a new gasket but it's proving difficult do arrange a time. I've also had an offer of £300 for breaking. I paid more than that for the wheels (original VX MV6 rims mint & not buckled) Recaro leather, Bose, carbon effect moulded steering wheel, nearly new budget tyres, rear privacy screen (not fitted) full VX clutch, cambelt & waterpump all done, Full handbrake cable front back & both sides, c/c, detatchable towbar with working leccies, battery, £340 ss decat exhaust etc etc. I'll be lucky to see a quarter of what i've spent on this car to keep her running & as pretty as she is. If i paid to fix the HG that'd be at least £200 & i'd be lucky if she sold for £1000.
I'm now thinking about filling her full of K seal & putting her on Swapz. MOT feb 12 tax Aug 11.
This is'nt a for sale post, if any admins think it is then by all means do what you have to & i won't bitch about it, promise, i've just had enough throwing good money after bad although i can't see what else could go wrong now!
Either way i've had enough. I love Migs but they cost a fortune. All i want to know is in my situation what would you do? :'(
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..... All i want to know is in my situation what would you do? :'(
I'd do the gasket. :y
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IMHO, I'd fix the HG now.
After spending all that time and money on her so far, you've covered most bases. You KNOW the car, if you get another car, you have no idea what your getting and could end up spending even more!
Hope that helps! :y
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..... All i want to know is in my situation what would you do? :'(
I'd do the gasket. :y
Me too! :y
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ALL cars cost a fortune. SMBO's Corsa racked up a bill for nigh on £800 recently! You are guilty of equating repair/maintenance bills with car value. There is no logic in that when you think about it.
Let's suppose you had an 06-registered Beemer. If you had the same problems as you describe, the cost of the repairs would be far higher. Presumably, if you had the work done you would then not sell it, since all would be fine. But you would be quids out of pocket.
But you have a Miggy. If you get it repaired, it would cost you less than the Beemer and then you would presumably not sell it since all would be fine.
Equate the two and get the Miggy repaired! It's resale value is not really pertinent.
At ethe end of the day, if the Miggy was running fine, would you keep it?
That's the question. ;)
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We all get attached to our cars, hearts ruling heads. I would cut my losses get rid, when cars start going wrong they never seem to stop.
I hope I don't upset you my friend.
Ray :)
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If i wanted to keep her yes i'd pay out to do both gaskets but as i said i've had enough & want rid. Spent a fortune already, enough is enough, the Beastie bank is SHUT! Time for a change.
So if you wanted rid what would you do?
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So if you wanted rid what would you do?
Shove the K seal in a flog it. ;) ;)
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If i wanted to keep her yes i'd pay out to do both gaskets but as i said i've had enough & want rid. Spent a fortune already, enough is enough, the Beastie bank is SHUT! Time for a change.
So if you wanted rid what would you do?
You've answered your own question! Bin it, if that's how you feel. ;)
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Stick it on eBay, list the faults, and get whatever it goes for, then move on to the next moneypit..
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If your miggy is an estate, can I have you S/S Exhaust? :y
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Shove the K seal in a flog it. ;) ;)
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Shove the K seal in a flog it. ;) ;)
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Selling something with a known fault that is hiden doesn't hardly seem fair to the new owner :-? Do you think?
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Shove the K seal in a flog it. ;) ;)
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+2 if you are insisting on getting rid... :(
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Selling something with a known fault that is hiden doesn't hardly seem fair to the new owner :-? Do you think?
i put k-seal in a rover 45 about 5 years ago
its still going.
as guy says it just has a leak
who hasn't put radweld in at some point
in a leaky rad then got rid
buyer beware
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Selling something with a known fault that is hiden doesn't hardly seem fair to the new owner :-? Do you think?
i put k-seal in a rover 45 about 5 years ago
its still going.
as guy says it just has a leak
who hasn't put radweld in at some point
in a leaky rad then got rid
buyer beware
Me I'm afraid :-?
Guy thought your mate was fixing your car? He seemed pretty hopeful when you phoned.
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I disagree Im afraid. If you know it needs a head gasket, then morally you shouldnt hide the fact when you want to sell it.
Personally,I wouldnt be able to sleep at night if I did that.
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I disagree Im afraid. If you know it needs a head gasket, then morally you shouldnt hide the fact when you want to sell it.
Personally,I wouldnt be able to sleep at night if I did that.
I hate to say this Albs you ugly bog eyed git, I agree with ya :-*
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Im glad to hear that, you tubby speccy gargoyle breakwit. :y :P
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Im glad to hear that, you tubby speccy gargoyle breakwit. :y :P
Your most welcome :-*
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I disagree Im afraid. If you know it needs a head gasket, then morally you shouldnt hide the fact when you want to sell it.
Personally,I wouldnt be able to sleep at night if I did that.
That's my dilemma. I have a conscience that i can ill afford. Don't really want to do that. I'd be peed off if i bought a car like that.
Just after all the money i've spent don't know what else to do? :-/ :'(
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Break it . . Or sell it too me. . ;)
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Imo Guy, you either fix it before you sell it, or you take a hit in the wallet the other way by selling it as it is, which no doubt will reduce the price by quite a bit.
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ok be honest in your ad
it had a water leak
you put in some k-seal or similar
and the leak has stopped
clear conscience
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Not if you know for a fact that the leak is rom the head gasket. ;)
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if it is between the water jacket to the outside of the block yes it is a water leak
if on the other hand it has gone from water jacket to cylinder as that is non repairable with k-seal
then no i would replace the gasket
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either way, it needs a head gasket.
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If i wanted to keep her yes i'd pay out to do both gaskets but as i said i've had enough & want rid. Spent a fortune already, enough is enough, the Beastie bank is SHUT! Time for a change.
So if you wanted rid what would you do?
Spent or invested? Not many used cars have a penny more than the bare minimum to keep them MOTd lavished on them, so assuming that's what you're going to replace it with, you might end up starting all over again. If you have an otherwise looked-after car with a single fault, you throw away all that investment when you sell. :-/
Replace the head gaskets and you have a car that's been looked after, and if the job is done properly you will have no more trouble.
Then again, if you've had enough with the car, rather than the expense, sell it. Not sure I'd want it on my conscience if I'd sold with a known fault either, though. :-/
Kevin
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Break it . . Or sell it too me. . ;)
Oi you, :P :P Guy, sell it to me cheap and I might let him fix it...both happy..... :D :D :D
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Being honest Guy, I would break it. Its a sad fact but a well spec'd Omega is worth far more for in parts than it is as a whole :'(
If you decide to sell it PM me ;)
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Skoda Superb mate, can't go wrong!!!
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As pete said break it you get far more and conscience clear.
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Given that car would likely end up again on this forum....to save a lot of bad feelings, I would be totally honest and sell with a water leak 'somewhere at the back of the engine'.
I had to deal with a car that had had radweld etc in it, the constant matrix flushing etc is a pain, you can never get rid of it afterwards.
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Hey mantagte, I've never put radweld in a car just before getting rid, or some other attempt at deception, nor has a great deal of oof members I suspect.
You say "buyer beware", and yes I agree with you, but that does not justify trying to deceive a buyer, leaving them car less and penniless. Shocking behaviour IMO.
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There's been an interesting range of opinion here. :y
Either it’s a case of fixing the car (which I know is difficult in the circumstances), selling it with the known faults identified or breaking it. (Providing the time and space are available)
I would certainly agree with those who suggested that to sell any vehicle with known but undisclosed faults is bad form to say the least and, if you think back to the last Ford you sold to the dealer who placed it on the auction site soon after without describing some of the weak points, you can see how distasteful this can be.
My inclination would be to have the fault fixed (as you know the car) but failing that, sell it to one of the other members who are willing to buy it as is – providing you can get a fair price for it.
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if I could find a way (no way unfortunately) to transfer the car from the border I could pay 2000£ as a non runner without doubt..
and next week I could sell it for at least 7000£ as a runner.. ;D
repair and use.. I always prefer a known beast.. :y
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Its a clean tidy car last time I saw it. It has a little weep from HG (presumably back of passenger side back - thats where 1998 3.0l ones tend to go).
Sadly, even without the leak, its virtually worthless on the open market, with the HG problem, its scrap money :(
If it was my MV6 (not in as good condition as when I last saw yours), I'd probably do the HG, as like you, I love my MV6 (fortunately, I've already had my HG done, so hopefully that will never reoccur). Yes, I've frequently said enough is enough. But I always fold, and fix her up again.
Quite simply, you have 3 choices as I see...
1) Fix it and keep
2) Break it yourself to acheive maximum money from it
3) Sell for sod all to a breaker who can make some money off it
Or start 1), ie strip down to HG, and try to put it back together, and if it all goes horribly wrong, leaves you with option 2) and 3)
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if I could find a way (no way unfortunately) to transfer the car from the border I could pay 2000£ as a non runner without doubt..
and next week I could sell it for at least 7000£ as a runner.. ;D
repair and use.. I always prefer a known beast.. :y
I think we need to go into business exporting cars to Turkey ;D. You're LHD though :(
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if I could find a way (no way unfortunately) to transfer the car from the border I could pay 2000£ as a non runner without doubt..
and next week I could sell it for at least 7000£ as a runner.. ;D
repair and use.. I always prefer a known beast.. :y
I think we need to go into business exporting cars to Turkey ;D. You're LHD though :(
problem is you need a newly date bill for the car proving its new and some other papers.. lhd problem can be sorted by my mechanic friends from second hand.. :-/
some famous footballers tried that in the past and go in big trouble.. :(
even I cant buy second hand manual gearbox for my car from abroad .. >:( >:(
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My Thoughts are identical to TB's.
In addition I would like to say that what I can hear is " oh no not something else has gone wrong".
I believe you should do HG. especially if 1. you can do it yourself 2. and nothing is wrong with head itself.
If can't diy then get someone from here, as they would be far cheaper than garage.
You've broken the back of doing the main things and then having someone proffing from all your hard work will definitely be gut wrenching if it was happening to me.
Atleast with the head off you can do a good exam or compression test (appx £35) to put mind at ease or see whether it's worth doing/keeping or sale.
If everything ok and worth it you may well fix and enjoy it for as long you can and if anything does go wrong then get rid.
These are only my opinions and I hope you make the right choice :y
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Guy, take it off the road for a while. You can park it up on the drive/front garden with no major issues IIRC. Then make a decision... What are you going to tow the 'van with? ::)
There's got to be a better option than getting rid... It's not that big a job TBH and you couldn't knowingly sell it with a fault ;) I can say that with 100% conviction having spent some very pleasant time in your company :y
You'd miss the Beastie and, the current little temper tantrum aside, she's highly reliable and good fun ;) ;)
All else fails, Emma and I will come up for a weekend later in the year and you and I will do it :y :y
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She's all back together now with new exhaust clamps. (still don't like refitting old stuff, even little things. TART!!!) Bought K seal but not put it in yet. We'll do that tomorrow. If i was keeping her then simple, BOTH HG's would be done but after nearly 5 years & 2 Migs i fancy a change. I'm one of those who change cars every few weeks so my thoughts are:-
It'll cost me £2/£300 to pay someone here to fix her up & i'd be lucky if she made a bag of sand which would leave me with £7/£800 if i'm lucky.
I WILL NOT sell her to anyone dishonestly, do unto others etc. Cheats never prosper. TBH i fancy another little MX5 & on swapz i could probably get one that might need a fettle but they're simple so could be done in house, or put a few quid on top for a better one.
Being as i can't do any OOFMEETS this year towing the van is'nt an issue the the classic meets i'm attending are local so my Ambulance/security mates can tow the van for me while i trundle along in the Cortina.
I'd like her to go to someone here who can fix the HG & enjoy her but i know she's worth more to break so who knows? She should be up & running again tomorrow so i'll use her for a while longer, just need some pink coolant.
Despite my silly moments on here when i see my arse i'd like to retain my membership as i love you lot...no really i do... & will want another Mig in a year or two & when i do i'm looking for a pre 2000 V6 auto facelift estate as a big old cruiser grandad motor. But until then..... 8-)
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Guy, I started reading this post, and around page 2, I was going to send you a PM, and say come down for a weekend, let's do the HGs (free of charge, aside the gaskets)
I got to page 3, and realised you've already made your decision you don't want her any more, and, if she's now worth nothing to you - it's not worth doing.
Good luck with the MX5 :y
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Well we have a developement...sort of. K seal is in run up & no leaks, temp good & hot air through heater. However in our ignorance we've managed to shear the clutch pipe so that will be replaced & bled through during the week, box with shiny new clutch is off again!!!
Thanks & BIG MAN LOVE BROMANCE to Elite Pete for your offer of help & terms. Thoroughly decent bloke but i understand your time is limited & i need a "quickie"!!! Upshot is she's off to sunny Scunny to a certain ex member next weekend & he's doing it for me @ mates rates...although he's not happy about having to flush the K seal out! ::) At least then i can honestly sell her as all ready to use & enjoy, & in a year or so's time get the facelift estate i fancy. A 2.5 will do fine, no noisy exhausts &....wait for it....i quite fancy a lazy auto next time!!! Must be mellowing.
Thanks again for your concern offers & help, Guy. :y
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Well we have a developement...sort of. K seal is in run up & no leaks, temp good & hot air through heater. However in our ignorance we've managed to shear the clutch pipe so that will be replaced & bled through during the week, box with shiny new clutch is off again!!!
Thanks & BIG MAN LOVE BROMANCE to Elite Pete for your offer of help & terms. Thoroughly decent bloke but i understand your time is limited & i need a "quickie"!!! Upshot is she's off to sunny Scunny to a certain ex member next weekend & he's doing it for me @ mates rates...although he's not happy about having to flush the K seal out! ::) At least then i can honestly sell her as all ready to use & enjoy, & in a year or so's time get the facelift estate i fancy. A 2.5 will do fine, no noisy exhausts &....wait for it....i quite fancy a lazy auto next time!!! Must be mellowing.
Thanks again for your concern offers & help, Guy. :y
showing your age now guy. ;D
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ohhhhh auto is the way forward guy,i know you like the fast lane but more so like the trundle about in a proper car like the consuls and the cortina you have so you can have the best of both/a v6 while if you dont floor the peddle will potter about really sedately :yand if needed the little s button opens the beast ;D
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Also bid thanks to James & Paul for your offers of help.
It's noted & appreciated. Guy. :y 8-)
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keep it going mi amigo.
all i hear about is these cars being broken. dont we love them and wanna keep them? mines with me to the grave :y :y :y :y
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keep it going mi amigo.
all i hear about is these cars being broken. dont we love them and wanna keep them? mines with me to the grave :y :y :y :y
I'm with you mate. One side of me says why sell now & let someone else benefit from a manual MV6 that's had pretty much everything done & dripping with Elite bits but the othwer side says it's a good time to sell.
Either way as previously said, after nearly 5 years & two Migs i need a change. :'(
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For what you would get for it and the fact from reading other threads you have put up in the past your a classic car fan. Could you not keep it and get somthing else to drive round in and in the not so distant future and at the rate they are being broke for bits. You would have a realy good/nice classic omega. :y
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Also bid thanks to James & Paul for your offers of help.
It's noted & appreciated. Guy. :y 8-)
No problem at all Guy... The offer still stands, although I'm no good to man nor beast at the moment :'( :'(
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Still useful to a certain admin though if the rumours are to be believed. :-* ::) ;D ;D
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Still useful to a certain admin though if the rumours are to be believed. :-* ::) ;D ;D
Not too useful I hope... Anyway, I think I'm off the hook as his boyfriend Chris should be making an appearance :y :y