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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Jimbob on 04 April 2011, 15:58:20
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Looking to replace our LNB as think its past its best.
Are they all much of a muchness or are there 'known good' makes to go for?
Cheers
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I use either Inverto or Technosat but in reality, for the majority of purposes, most LNB's are much the same.
Dave Craig at the Satellite Superstore is always willing to offer advice.
http://www.satellitesuperstore.com/lnbs.htm
;D ;D ;D I've just noticed that he's used a picture of my Unicorn dish - it's the right hand one under the heading Prime Focus and Off-Set Dishes down that page a little bit. :D
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I just bought one from Maplin for convenience when ours failed. More cost effective sources are available, I'm sure. ;) IIRC, it was a FortecStar twin output job and I'd forgotten I'd changed it a couple of years back, so I guess it's working OK.
It really depends what type of dish you have and what mounting the LNB comes with.
Sky minidishes have a square lug that pushes into the end of the support arm. Most generic dishes have a circular clamp for the LNB. You can get adaptors to fit one to the other, but..
In theory, Sky minidishes require a different feed horn arrangement in the LNB because they are not circular but oval. In practice this probably doesn't make a huge difference and you may well get away with a generic LNB on an adaptor. I did.
When setting up, bear in mind that the LNB needs to be positioned accurately at the focal point of the dish and it needs to be skewed at an angle to give the best separation of the H and V polarisation signals. The amount of skew depends on your location.
It's a good idea to get a strength meter and "tune for maximum smoke" for dish azimuth and elevation, LNB distance from the dish, then swap between channels with H and V polarisation and try and get the best compromise of signal strength and quality by adjusting the skew. Repeat that sequence a couple of times to get the best signal that you can (even if it's properly aligned, you may well knock it out of alignment when wrestling with the LNB).
Kevin
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I have a Trade Account with Frequency Jim, if theres anything in there that takes your fancy or might help just let me know.
http://www.frequencydistribution.co.uk/products/
Chris. ;)
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For those of us who haven't got a rather clue what he's on about, it's a low noise block downconverter.
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it's the box that hangs on the front of a sky dish where the wires go in.
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Of course, it goes without saying that, if you suspect the LNB to be deteriorating, don't overlook the fact that the dish could need aligning, or the coax could have deteriorated. A bit of investigation could save a few quid if you haven't eliminated these. :y
Kevin
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For those of us who haven't got a rather clue what he's on about, it's a low noise block downconverter.
;D ;D ;D :y
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Cheers all, some good advice there, not looking forward to trying to improve the dish alignment.
Our pic breaks up far too easily, so thought I'd replace the LNB as a starting point, then move on to tweaking the dish.
Ive got one of those little satellite stength meters, but have read conflicting reports, some saying they work well for the whole job, some saying they get you in the ballpark, then use the one built into the sky box to fine tune.
Most the ones on ebay report to be a direct replacement for sky minidishes now, so should just be a case of getting the settings off the old one and applying to the new, swap the cables etc over, and away we go.
Be a few weeks off anyway, as there is a birds nest behind the dish at the mo, and Im not going to disturb the eggs.
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Be a few weeks off anyway, as there is a birds nest behind the dish at the mo, and Im not going to disturb the eggs.
Well done Jb. 8-) :y
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Cheers all, some good advice there, not looking forward to trying to improve the dish alignment.
Our pic breaks up far too easily, so thought I'd replace the LNB as a starting point, then move on to tweaking the dish.
Ive got one of those little satellite stength meters, but have read conflicting reports, some saying they work well for the whole job, some saying they get you in the ballpark, then use the one built into the sky box to fine tune.
Most the ones on ebay report to be a direct replacement for sky minidishes now, so should just be a case of getting the settings off the old one and applying to the new, swap the cables etc over, and away we go.
Be a few weeks off anyway, as there is a birds nest behind the dish at the mo, and Im not going to disturb the eggs.
Take a reading at the LNB and one at the sat box.....to rule out the cable.....
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Good idea Mark, just as easy to run new, better cable while Im at it.
Tempted for a bigger dish too ;D
who sent me to a satellite shop ;D
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Good idea Mark, just as easy to run new, better cable while Im at it.
Tempted for a bigger dish too ;D
who sent me to a satellite shop ;D
The standard sky twin stuff is usualy not to bad but, there not the greatest installers!
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Just remember that the max dish size is 90cm in Scotland and Wales, in England it is 1meter.....so being in the old principality, your only allowed 90cm!
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here's a good site on pointing a dish http://www.satsig.net/spectrum-analyser.htm
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I ran the original cable, wasnt having them chuck it over the roof!
dish is only a 45cm so far, tempted for a 60
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Cheers all, some good advice there, not looking forward to trying to improve the dish alignment.
Our pic breaks up far too easily, so thought I'd replace the LNB as a starting point, then move on to tweaking the dish.
Ive got one of those little satellite stength meters, but have read conflicting reports, some saying they work well for the whole job, some saying they get you in the ballpark, then use the one built into the sky box to fine tune.
Most the ones on ebay report to be a direct replacement for sky minidishes now, so should just be a case of getting the settings off the old one and applying to the new, swap the cables etc over, and away we go.
Be a few weeks off anyway, as there is a birds nest behind the dish at the mo, and Im not going to disturb the eggs.
The cheapie LNB meters work off IF Signal so the pretty much realtime but can be a bit hit and miss and all or nothing, the Sat receiver will show RSSI or Captured Data or a mixture of both so a slight movement in the Dish could give the reading a second or two later.
An old Analogue trick was to, once you've found your best signal, tape a 1p or 2p over the center of the LNB to reduce signal then go for maximum signal whilst tightening up the bolts etc.
And it may sound silly, but, dont forget take the coin off when youve finnished.
Chris.
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ahhh yes, I remember a simliar trick with a wet towel round the edge of the dish now you mention it
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OMG....I am having a bad week :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
When I opened this post I thought is was about the sensor in the exhaust pipe :-[ :-[ :-[
Yes I know...its a Lambda :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[