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Title: Wayne Rooney..
Post by: jerry on 04 April 2011, 23:17:33
Someone on my Baggies site put it aptly: "genius of a player-gobsh*ite of a man". As for Shearer's comment on MOTD about letting Shrek's apology being the end of it NO!! Not good enough!In fact I expected Shearer to know better-no wonder he looked sheepish saying it! THe FA need to grow some cojones and deal with his behaviour. Hopefully it looks like a game or so banning is a possible outcome. Too many fans pay out hard earned cash to watch their teams and I find it obscene that some players -particularly from the "top" clubs -seem to think that their salary and footballing status gives them the right to behave as they do with no real fear of any consequences (eg Mr Cole etc). As for Fergusen, he may be a great manager, but his behaviour in bullying officials etc doesnt convince me that he is much better. Undoubted talent or not , there are times when I wish Shrek would come up against an old fashioned centre half if anyone remembers what I mean. Might learn him some manners....
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Post by: millwall on 04 April 2011, 23:24:52
personally i cant stand shrek the bloke is too far up his own harris  hope he gets banned although i suspect he will appeal and get fined >:(
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Post by: rob in gib on 05 April 2011, 07:00:41
First can i point out that i am not a fan of football (never have been)

but actions like that from a so called ambassador of the sport --come to metion it of his country
are apawling

he should be punished --but if only fined the fine should be relevant to his earnings and not just a token amount

ok rant over :y
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney..
Post by: Banjax on 05 April 2011, 09:05:20
if i was Wayne Rooney and i was getting dogs abuse 24/7 and i'd just scored a hat trick away from home to win a game my team were losing 2-0 at half time i dont know what i'd be thinking but "i must remember my p's and q's" wouldnt probably be top of the list  ;D


and if you think any multimillionaire footballers should be ambassadors or role models then you get what you deserve for being so shallow frankly  :o
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney..
Post by: bob.dent on 05 April 2011, 09:35:38
A good footballer but like many of them these days, another overpaid little pr1ck that think they can get away with anything because of who they are! >:(
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney..
Post by: Varche on 05 April 2011, 09:39:16
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if i was Wayne Rooney and i was getting dogs abuse 24/7 and i'd just scored a hat trick away from home to win a game my team were losing 2-0 at half time i dont know what i'd be thinking but "i must remember my p's and q's" wouldnt probably be top of the list  ;D


and if you think any multimillionaire footballers should be ambassadors or role models then you get what you deserve for being so shallow frankly  :o


No you are out of touch with the real world on this one. The guy isn't that much of a star (remember how little he contributed to us winning the last world cup) . Todays youth and middle age folk ARE influenced by the media and sporting heros etc. Traditional values seem to have gone. So it is important that the "stars" actually behave properly as like it or not they are role models.

A big fine isn't enough, he should have some form of electric shock treatment or stick with his day job helping guy build his boat.
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney..
Post by: Kevin Wood on 05 April 2011, 09:39:45
Every time he breathes it's a little bit more Oxygen wasted...

Kevin
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Post by: tunnie on 05 April 2011, 10:27:42
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Every time he breathes it's a little bit more Oxygen wasted...

Kevin

 ;D ;D ;D ;D   :y
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney..
Post by: MICHELINMAN on 05 April 2011, 10:30:31
Bet he doesnt drive a clapped out old vauxhall though...... ;)
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Post by: trainmanone on 05 April 2011, 10:36:01
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Bet he doesnt drive a clapped out old vauxhall though...... ;)

no he hasnt got the class to drive one lol
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Post by: MICHELINMAN on 05 April 2011, 10:38:00
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Bet he doesnt drive a clapped out old vauxhall though...... ;)

no he hasnt got the class to drive one lol
do you?
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Post by: mantahatch on 05 April 2011, 11:15:01
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Bet he doesnt drive a clapped out old vauxhall though...... ;)

no he hasnt got the class to drive one lol
do you?


Emu, are you STMO in disguise ?
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney..
Post by: Banjax on 05 April 2011, 11:44:24
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if i was Wayne Rooney and i was getting dogs abuse 24/7 and i'd just scored a hat trick away from home to win a game my team were losing 2-0 at half time i dont know what i'd be thinking but "i must remember my p's and q's" wouldnt probably be top of the list  ;D


and if you think any multimillionaire footballers should be ambassadors or role models then you get what you deserve for being so shallow frankly  :o


No you are out of touch with the real world on this one. The guy isn't that much of a star (remember how little he contributed to us winning the last world cup) . Todays youth and middle age folk ARE influenced by the media and sporting heros etc. Traditional values seem to have gone. So it is important that the "stars" actually behave properly as like it or not they are role models.

A big fine isn't enough, he should have some form of electric shock treatment or stick with his day job helping guy build his boat.


as an impartial observer I'd say Wayne Rooney is close to world class and easily the best English player of his generation - the fact that your keeper dropped a clanger, allowed the USA to equalise meant England didn't secure the expected top spot in the group, hence they played Germany instead of Ghana (was it?) yes he's highly rewarded for his skills - many people in other walks of life (showbiz, banking) are well paid and arent expected to act as role models, personally i dont think WR owes anyone anything and if it wasnt for his sublime talent - a talent that he is indeed lucky that its a highly paid skill that few on the planet can do as well as him, then not one of you would give him so much as a penny (those of you who know liverpool and the area he comes from - when was the last time an mp visited there, or a bank invested money there? i doubt theres anything but carry outs pubs and bookies in that estate) so no, he isnt a role model - do you blame him? why dont the people who bleat about him being a role model ask yourself why a kid looks up to wayne rooney more than their parents  :o
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney..
Post by: jerry on 05 April 2011, 12:43:02
for me banjax youre missing the point I wanted to make. Re all the stuff about "role models" I tend to disagree that they are or even should be. He -like many "celebs" -dont want to be role models, its something others foist upon them. For eg I remember Noel Gallagher talking about it. I mean, in their day, Oasis were a bloody good band and sure they wanted to make money and be famous and all that but they also wanted to be thought of as a good band who made good music (anyone worth anything has to have an element of professional conceit about what they do) so why should they change and pretend that they dont swear/drink/smoke/take drugs? Remember Mccartney's admission of taking LSD? Quite rightly he put the publicising of that back into the court of the journalists. He wasnt going to lie about it but it was up to them, if the journalists really thought that publishing it would encourage Beatle fans to take acid then they shouldnt publish it. They did because it was a story and they had no moral claims to make. To a degree its about integrity and honesty-just dont pretend to ber something youre not just because its the wrong PR "image". What I have against Rooney-and others-isnt that he should behave better because he is a role model, but because it shows lack of common manners and respect. Just because someone has come from an impoverished background and through whatever means now earns more than you or me could ever dream of doesnt mean that he/she shouldnt mind their mouth!Cyrille Regis makes the point in his autobiography about the role that people in the club have to play in assisting young players with this transition. Obviously Fergie is not the man in this regard.
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney..
Post by: Banjax on 05 April 2011, 14:11:35
fair enough jerry but witness the reaction to most people when you mention Wayne Rooney - its "shrek" this "fat" that "ugly" "granny shagger" etc so he'd have to be a saint to behave and not want to ram it down everyones throat, he takes a lot of crap much like David Beckham did when the whole of England blamed him for the failure to win the world cup..........he was treated worse than a murderer or rapist by the media so forgive WR if he doesnt play the medias game and be polite  :y

fk em - i agree with him  ;)
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney..
Post by: fudgee on 05 April 2011, 14:22:19
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for me banjax youre missing the point I wanted to make. Re all the stuff about "role models" I tend to disagree that they are or even should be. He -like many "celebs" -dont want to be role models, its something others foist upon them. For eg I remember Noel Gallagher talking about it. I mean, in their day, Oasis were a bloody good band and sure they wanted to make money and be famous and all that but they also wanted to be thought of as a good band who made good music (anyone worth anything has to have an element of professional conceit about what they do) so why should they change and pretend that they dont swear/drink/smoke/take drugs? Remember Mccartney's admission of taking LSD? Quite rightly he put the publicising of that back into the court of the journalists. He wasnt going to lie about it but it was up to them, if the journalists really thought that publishing it would encourage Beatle fans to take acid then they shouldnt publish it. They did because it was a story and they had no moral claims to make. To a degree its about integrity and honesty-just dont pretend to ber something youre not just because its the wrong PR "image". What I have against Rooney-and others-isnt that he should behave better because he is a role model, but because it shows lack of common manners and respect. Just because someone has come from an impoverished background and through whatever means now earns more than you or me could ever dream of doesnt mean that he/she shouldnt mind their mouth!Cyrille Regis makes the point in his autobiography about the role that people in the club have to play in assisting young players with this transition. Obviously Fergie is not the man in this regard.

That is one extremly stupid and in-correct comment.
What about the Neville brothers, Paul Scholes, Ryan giggs??

They are some of the most successful footballers in English football history, and how many time's have you seen them on the front page instead of the back page.......NEVER!!!!

They are just a handfull, there are lots of fine young players that have left the United reserve team and have gone on to have sucessfull and scandal free careers in the premier league and lower leagues.

All after coming through the Old Trafford ranks and having been mentored by Sir Alex.
The man is famous for being a positive influence on his young players and you do him a diservice with your remark.

Wayne Rooney is immature and does need to learn to handle the spotlight better I agree.
But he was 18 or 19yrs old when he joined United.

If he had been at United since he was about 12 or 13yrs old like Giggsy and the rest, I would bet my very last penny that he would be more level headed and responsable than what he is now  :y :y :y
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney..
Post by: jerry on 05 April 2011, 15:00:47
maybe fudgee-certainly in the past Id always thought of Fergusen as the sort of manager who would demand better of his players and there is no doubt as to his skills as a prem football manager re performance but it seems to me that of late he hardly sets a good example himself in his harrasment of officials etc. As for Ryan Giggs, this is a man and player others should aspire too. As youve no doubt guessed Im not a great Man U lover ;D but there is no getting away from the many positive sides of the team. Schols and Giggs are great examples of not just how players should perform but also of how they should behave. Everyone slips up, everyone gets stressed out. Talented or under the pressure of the  media spotlight as he is, the bloke needs to grow up in my opinion and I thought that comments like those made by Shearer over his latest outburst were too soft. Maybe just not my perception...
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney..
Post by: Richie London on 05 April 2011, 16:11:15
shrek has an ego far bigger than himself.
ferguson is only as good as the money on the table. would he be as succsesful with any other club. another man too big fir his boots
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney..
Post by: millwall on 05 April 2011, 17:01:12
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shrek has an ego far bigger than himself.
ferguson is only as good as the money on the table. would he be as succsesful with any other club. another man too big fir his boots
well said richie  :y
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney..
Post by: Richie London on 05 April 2011, 17:27:55
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shrek has an ego far bigger than himself.
ferguson is only as good as the money on the table. would he be as succsesful with any other club. another man too big fir his boots
well said richie  :y


coupl of my mates are leeds supporters going to the game saturday, if i send you a pic, could you make sure they get  a good beating  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney..
Post by: Webby the Bear on 05 April 2011, 17:40:54
footballs crap anyway. you lot want to watch rugby. proper mans game
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney..
Post by: Richie London on 05 April 2011, 18:07:38
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footballs crap anyway. you lot want to watch rugby. proper mans game[/quote

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i find rugby players a bit camp, tight shorts and all huddled round each others rses. a mans mans game if you ask me.
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney..
Post by: Webby the Bear on 05 April 2011, 18:25:46
not sure about being camp.................

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11E9XctWsMY&feature=related
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Post by: Richie London on 05 April 2011, 18:38:26
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not sure about being camp.................

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11E9XctWsMY&feature=related



now that was very bitchy, should of beeen sent off for that tackle if you ask me  ;D
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney..
Post by: MICHELINMAN on 05 April 2011, 18:48:04
do you think Wazza would be seen in a Vauxhall.....? 8-)
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Post by: Webby the Bear on 05 April 2011, 18:49:01
well he's been seen in a 60 year old granny prostitute!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: MICHELINMAN on 05 April 2011, 18:53:20
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well he's been seen in a 60 year old granny prostitute!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
oh yes, the one that owned the vauxhall!
Title: Re: Wayne Rooney..
Post by: Banjax on 05 April 2011, 19:43:54
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shrek has an ego far bigger than himself.
ferguson is only as good as the money on the table. would he be as succsesful with any other club. another man too big fir his boots


did OK at Aberdeen without any money  ;)