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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Nickbat on 12 April 2011, 10:56:05
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When a Royal Navy warship captured a crew of Somali pirates, it seemed like a rare chance to strike back at the ruthless sea gangsters.
The 17 outlaws were armed with an arsenal of AK 47s and rocket-propelled grenades, and had forced hostages on a hijacked fishing vessel to work as slaves for three months.
But instead of bringing them to justice, the British servicemen were ordered to provide the pirates halal meals, medical checks, cigarettes – and in one case even a nicotine patch – before releasing them in their own boats.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1375884/Pampered-pirates-Royal-Navy-seizes-17-armed-Somalis-gives-halal-meat-nicotine-patches--sets-free.html
Makes you proud, doesn't it? ::) ::) :-[
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I'd be proud if they shoot the nasty little oiks out of hand. NO PRISONERS :y :y
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I'd be proud if they shoot the nasty little oiks out of hand. NO PRISONERS :y :y
Agreed :y
It's about time we stopped being nice to these vermin and used them for a little target pratice :y :y
Being "nice" to them does not work so lets try and get the message across another way :y
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Why capture them in the first place (assuming there was no 'special ops' reason for doing so) and then release them without sanction?
A bit of a puzzler in my view.
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I would have let the b*****ds walk, too..
If I'd had a plank. >:(
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What's the alternative? Bring them back to Blighty for trial, where they'd have been swamped by 'uman rights lawyers, let off on a technicality, paid a load of compo, granted asylum, with a free house and free beer? >:(
The RN didn't have to be so nice to them though, they could have at least burnt their boats.... Wonder if they disarmed them? ::)
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What's the alternative? Bring them back to Blighty for trial, where they'd have been swamped by 'uman rights lawyers, let off on a technicality, paid a load of compo, granted asylum, with a free house and free beer? >:(
Like I said, a 13' walk along a 12' plank. :y
The RN didn't have to be so nice to them though, they could have at least burnt their boats.... Wonder if they disarmed them? ::)
I should hope so!.. But probably not. It'd have interfered with their rights to terrorise innocent people going about their legitimate business. >:(
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What's the alternative? Bring them back to Blighty for trial, where they'd have been swamped by 'uman rights lawyers, let off on a technicality, paid a load of compo, granted asylum, with a free house and free beer? >:(
The RN didn't have to be so nice to them though, they could have at least burnt their boats.... Wonder if they disarmed them? ::)
This is why I said previously that in all practical circumstances this was a redundant exercise, (assuming there was no ulterior motive for the release).
Either a target such as this is engaged and destroyed or ignored.
There seems the have been little thought given to the machinery necessary to deal (in the legal sense) with people detained under these circumstances.
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I like most other people, am outraged at the ongoing Somali pirate situation and it would have been great to mete out some instant justice BUT...
The pirates have the perfect big business model.
At anyone time they have hundreds of hostages and dozens of ships for ransom at many different locations.
They are using modern ships with greater ranges to capture ships.
The Somali country is a lawless one.
What is required is a concerted UN lead International effort to stop them in their tracks and recover all the ships and hostages dead or alive. It won't happen as the world(rightly IMO) views hostage lives above ransom or meting out some instant justice.
Expect piracy to continue and grow in popularity.
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When a Royal Navy warship captured a crew of Somali pirates, it seemed like a rare chance to strike back at the ruthless sea gangsters.
The 17 outlaws were armed with an arsenal of AK 47s and rocket-propelled grenades, and had forced hostages on a hijacked fishing vessel to work as slaves for three months.
But instead of bringing them to justice, the British servicemen were ordered to provide the pirates halal meals, medical checks, cigarettes – and in one case even a nicotine patch – before releasing them in their own boats.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1375884/Pampered-pirates-Royal-Navy-seizes-17-armed-Somalis-gives-halal-meat-nicotine-patches--sets-free.html
Makes you proud, doesn't it? ::) ::) :-[
;D ;D and probably they ask , would you like a coffee ;D ;D
seriously, its not something bad, shows the level of civilization.. :y :y
however , the pirates caught by Russians were not that lucky :-X
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The UN now that's a joke, bloody usless.
A little stategic nuke would soon bring the buggers into line. ::)
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The UN now that's a joke, bloody usless.
A little stategic nuke would soon bring the buggers into line. ::)
:o A length of 8x4 would be a little less drastic. ;D
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Don't know why they don't just blow them out of the water and leave no evidence of their existence. Simple!! ::)
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Don't know why they don't just blow them out of the water and leave no evidence of their existence. Simple!! ::)
That wouldn't work very well. The pirates mates back home would take it out on the current hundreds hostages and just up their ransom prices.
Like I say it is a superb business model that works very well . As nearly every country is affected it can only be solved by a global response. That isn't going to happen.
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Don't know why they don't just blow them out of the water and leave no evidence of their existence. Simple!! ::)
That wouldn't work very well. The pirates mates back home would take it out on the current hundreds hostages and just up their ransom prices.
Like I say it is a superb business model that works very well . As nearly every country is affected it can only be solved by a global response. That isn't going to happen.
Not necessarily. Provided there were no witnesses how would they know? For all their fellow pirates back home know, they've gone missing.
Unfortunately in the real world, the Navy wouldn't be able to do such a thing and keep quiet about it, but if they could............................... ::)
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Don't know why they don't just blow them out of the water and leave no evidence of their existence. Simple!! ::)
That wouldn't work very well. The pirates mates back home would take it out on the current hundreds hostages and just up their ransom prices.
Like I say it is a superb business model that works very well . As nearly every country is affected it can only be solved by a global response. That isn't going to happen.
As we sow, so shall we reap. This is the price we pay for sitting on our hands and hoping someone else will solve the problem. A larger, insoluble problem. >:(
Kevin
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As we sow, so shall we reap. This is the price we pay for sitting on our hands and hoping someone else will solve the problem. A larger, insoluble problem. >:(
Kevin
This also applies to the appalling record of the last few governments here (both Conservative and Old/New Labour - breakless parents incapable or unwilling to teach their children to become useful members of society - those who laud celebrity and live their lives vicariously as a result - and finally (in this short rant), to the masses for whom the mantra - 'Anything will do, I don't give a opps' is uttered in the hope of sliding through life or employment in the expectation that they will not be asked to exert themselves and that, should anything ever go wrong, someone else will sort matters out.
Abundant seeds have been indeed been sown and we are now beginning to witness the bitter harvest that was inevitable as a result of such apathy and irresponsibility.
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As we sow, so shall we reap. This is the price we pay for sitting on our hands and hoping someone else will solve the problem. A larger, insoluble problem. >:(
Kevin
This also applies to the appalling record of the last few governments here (both Conservative and Old/New Labour - breakless parents incapable or unwilling to teach their children to become useful members of society - those who laud celebrity and live their lives vicariously as a result - and finally (in this short rant), to the masses for whom the mantra - 'Anything will do, I don't give a blank' is uttered in the hope of sliding through life or employment in the expectation that they will not be asked to exert themselves and that, should anything ever go wrong, someone else will sort matters out.
Abundant seeds have been indeed been sown and we are now beginning to witness the bitter harvest that was inevitable as a result of such apathy and irresponsibility.
Shouldnt really disclose this and wont reveal sources but here is a genuine letter sent to a local council. This person was not a typical "chav" such as Den may alude to , but an older person who shouldve known better. Honestly it isnt made up, but demonstrates the attitude and lack of general manners that plague our society:
"I am writing to complain about council tennants being angry because I throw washing machines and TVs and other electrical junk down 2 flights of stairs its perfectly safe ,and no ones been hurt yet.
They also complain because I throw rubbish away by the railings of xxxxx park.A rubbish council truck cleaned it up so why they moaning?I have my rights and will do as i wish
PS they also complain because i pick on ill or old people.what i do is my affair "
Must be great to live next to this person ;D
As regard to the RN and the pirates it really mustve been SO tempting to just blow them out of the water ::)
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My faith in the RN is getting lower & lower, did anyone see Royal Navy Caribbean Patrol?
HMS Manchester was unable to sink a plastic 8 foot boat! Pathetic...
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Shouldnt really disclose this and wont reveal sources but here is a genuine letter sent to a local council. This person was not a typical "chav" such as Den may alude to , but an older person who shouldve known better. Honestly it isnt made up, but demonstrates the attitude and lack of general manners that plague our society:
"I am writing to complain about council tennants being angry because I throw washing machines and TVs and other electrical junk down 2 flights of stairs its perfectly safe ,and no ones been hurt yet.
They also complain because I throw rubbish away by the railings of xxxxx park.A rubbish council truck cleaned it up so why they moaning?I have my rights and will do as i wish
PS they also complain because i pick on ill or old people.what i do is my affair "
Must be great to live next to this person ;D
As regard to the RN and the pirates it really mustve been SO tempting to just blow them out of the water ::)
;D ;D That's a corker Jerry but seems, sadly, to be the attitude prevalent in many of our people at the moment.
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maybe the answer is a no sail zone enforced by Nato?
Wait a minute, no oil so just sit back and let the cost be passed on to US the consumer by the companies paying the ransoms.