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Title: just had a spin in a rangie sport
Post by: hercules on 12 April 2011, 20:33:10
my brothers range rover got bumped and while its away they have lent him a 2010 range rover sport tdv8 so of course he brought it round for big brother to have a go,very nice and  and i bet they have surprised a few young lads at the lights.what a lovely diesel engine i dont know if theyre anygood but smooth and quick,i right enjoyed that :y
Title: Re: just had a spin in a rangie sport
Post by: Turk on 12 April 2011, 21:39:09
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my brothers range rover got bumped and while its away they have lent him a 2010 range rover sport tdv8 so of course he brought it round for big brother to have a go,very nice and  and i bet they have surprised a few young lads at the lights.what a lovely diesel engine i dont know if theyre anygood but smooth and quick,i right enjoyed that :y

Ah yes, the 'low profile, useless on anything other than smooth tarmac' sports tyre brigade.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: just had a spin in a rangie sport
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 12 April 2011, 22:12:47
I'm not a big fan of the"Range Rooney"...... ;)
Title: Re: just had a spin in a rangie sport
Post by: Webby the Bear on 12 April 2011, 22:28:53
i dont wish to sound all clarkson but i'd rather  have the standard one (the vogue?  :-/)

the sport is far too cheshire lol  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: just had a spin in a rangie sport
Post by: tunnie on 12 April 2011, 22:30:39
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i dont wish to sound all clarkson but i'd rather  have the standard one (the vogue?  :-/)

the sport is far too cheshire lol  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Vogue is a spec, like Elite.

Range Rover - The Full Monty
Range Rover Sport - Half Pint Job
Title: Re: just had a spin in a rangie sport
Post by: Entwood on 12 April 2011, 22:32:39
If your going to have one... there's only one to have ...

http://www.overfinch.com/main.asp?launch=true

:)
Title: Re: just had a spin in a rangie sport
Post by: tunnie on 12 April 2011, 22:38:12
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If your going to have one... there's only one to have ...

http://www.overfinch.com/main.asp?launch=true

:)

Indeed.

Remember the TG episode of this, whats the quickest way to get a Ford Focus 1.6 to 60mph? Put it on a trailer behind an Overfinch  :D

Also remember the later one of an OverFinch out-dragging a Merc CLK. Merc on runway, Overfinch on the rough grass!
Title: Re: just had a spin in a rangie sport
Post by: Webby the Bear on 12 April 2011, 22:41:26
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Also remember the later one of an OverFinch out-dragging a Merc CLK. Merc on runway, Overfinch on the rough grass!

i do remember that one. cos of the torque aint it? :-/
Title: Re: just had a spin in a rangie sport
Post by: o-meg-a on 12 April 2011, 22:43:16
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i dont wish to sound all clarkson but i'd rather  have the standard one (the vogue?  :-/)

the sport is far too cheshire lol  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Vogue is a spec, like Elite.

Range Rover - The Full Monty
Range Rover Sport - Half Pint Job

mistaken there i think you'll find.

they are very much different vehicles, diff size, body shape, chassis and of course spec.

And price....

refer to this link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Range_Rover_Sport

and see the bit where it says the sport is built on the disco 3 chassis.
Not even comparable to the genuine range rover
Title: Re: just had a spin in a rangie sport
Post by: tunnie on 12 April 2011, 22:45:09
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i dont wish to sound all clarkson but i'd rather  have the standard one (the vogue?  :-/)

the sport is far too cheshire lol  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Vogue is a spec, like Elite.

Range Rover - The Full Monty
Range Rover Sport - Half Pint Job

mistaken there i think you'll find.

they are very much different vehicles, diff size, body shape, chassis and of course spec.

And price....

Thats what i said, half pint job!

Range Rover is original. the daddy, it will go anyware. The Sport is the smaller version
Title: Re: just had a spin in a rangie sport
Post by: tunnie on 12 April 2011, 22:46:25
Sport was in TG with the Tank Chase  :y
Title: Re: just had a spin in a rangie sport
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 12 April 2011, 22:46:59
The 'Finch has the muscles no doubt; I would be more than satisfied with a nice bog standard TDV8 – should anyone be offering. :-* :-* :y
Title: Re: just had a spin in a rangie sport
Post by: hotel21 on 12 April 2011, 22:48:24
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i dont wish to sound all clarkson but i'd rather  have the standard one (the vogue?  :-/)

the sport is far too cheshire lol  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Vogue is a spec, like Elite.

Range Rover - The Full Monty
Range Rover Sport - Half Pint Job

mistaken there i think you'll find.

they are very much different vehicles, diff size, body shape, chassis and of course spec.

And price....

refer to this link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Range_Rover_Sport

and see the bit where it says the sport is built on the disco 3 chassis.
Not even comparable to the genuine range rover

T is actually reasonably close.

Vogue spec is only available in RR guise.

RR Sport generally in HSE trim, with oversize rims, blacked out glass, side steps and other obvious underpinnings of wannabe types - lifes Imps, Pimps and Banjo Players.........   ::)
Title: Re: just had a spin in a rangie sport
Post by: o-meg-a on 12 April 2011, 22:52:13
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i dont wish to sound all clarkson but i'd rather  have the standard one (the vogue?  :-/)

the sport is far too cheshire lol  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Vogue is a spec, like Elite.

Range Rover - The Full Monty
Range Rover Sport - Half Pint Job

mistaken there i think you'll find.

they are very much different vehicles, diff size, body shape, chassis and of course spec.

And price....

Thats what i said, half pint job!

Range Rover is original. the daddy, it will go anyware. The Sport is the smaller version

sorry,

i read that as you were saying "sport" was like "vogue"....as in they were just different specs....
I think the big Real rangerover is actually now refered to as the "range rover vogue" to distinguish it from the sport. But there is a special edition called the autobiography.

anyway.....
RR sport is TINY inside, well for someone my height. It was "compact"....which was surprising. but then the New defender is the same too, because of the bulkhead the seats dont go back far enough lol
Title: Re: just had a spin in a rangie sport
Post by: o-meg-a on 12 April 2011, 22:54:35
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i dont wish to sound all clarkson but i'd rather  have the standard one (the vogue?  :-/)

the sport is far too cheshire lol  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Vogue is a spec, like Elite.

Range Rover - The Full Monty
Range Rover Sport - Half Pint Job

mistaken there i think you'll find.

they are very much different vehicles, diff size, body shape, chassis and of course spec.

And price....

refer to this link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Range_Rover_Sport

and see the bit where it says the sport is built on the disco 3 chassis.
Not even comparable to the genuine range rover

T is actually reasonably close.

Vogue spec is only available in RR guise.

RR Sport generally in HSE trim, with oversize rims, blacked out glass, side steps and other obvious underpinnings of wannabe types - lifes Imps, Pimps and Banjo Players.........   ::)

now you've just confused things,
I know vogue is only available in the big RR.

thats what i was saying.....: :o :D :-/ :y
Title: Re: just had a spin in a rangie sport
Post by: tunnie on 12 April 2011, 22:56:18
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i dont wish to sound all clarkson but i'd rather  have the standard one (the vogue?  :-/)

the sport is far too cheshire lol  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Vogue is a spec, like Elite.

Range Rover - The Full Monty
Range Rover Sport - Half Pint Job

mistaken there i think you'll find.

they are very much different vehicles, diff size, body shape, chassis and of course spec.

And price....

Thats what i said, half pint job!

Range Rover is original. the daddy, it will go anyware. The Sport is the smaller version

sorry,

i read that as you were saying "sport" was like "vogue"....as in they were just different specs....
I think the big Real rangerover is actually now refered to as the "range rover vogue" to distinguish it from the sport. But there is a special edition called the autobiography.

anyway.....
RR sport is TINY inside, well for someone my height. It was "compact"....which was surprising. but then the New defender is the same too, because of the bulkhead the seats dont go back far enough lol

No worries  :y

Autobiography is again spec, like Vogue & HSE, the official name still is Range Rover (Brucie?)

I too was surprised at the 'snug' cockpit of the Sport, I felt the Omega had more room!  :o

Think its perception, the windscreen in Omega is rather massive, its felt small in the Sport  :-/

Boot space was a bit poor too  :(

They are faily rapid though, but for that kinda money I would have an XF-R
Title: Re: just had a spin in a rangie sport
Post by: hotel21 on 12 April 2011, 22:56:35
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...... but then the New defender is the same too, because of the bulkhead the seats dont go back far enough lol

Not wanting to sound a pedant but...

Wheres the 'New' Defender?   ;D

Its got a stay of execution until, I think, 2014.  Still based on the original wartime chassis etc.

If its a 90 pickup then, yes, its got no rearward seat movement to speak of.  If a County or 110 then there is at least some adjustment.  I find it best to actually move the seat forward then tip the back backwards....   :y
Title: Re: just had a spin in a rangie sport
Post by: o-meg-a on 12 April 2011, 22:58:19
yeah i was disappointed at the space, especially when you compare it to the chassis its based on. I found the Disco 3 not too bad.
they've shortened it, lowered the back end roof line to make all space useless.....but then i suppose you're not buying one of those for practicality lol
Title: Re: just had a spin in a rangie sport
Post by: o-meg-a on 12 April 2011, 22:59:18
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...... but then the New defender is the same too, because of the bulkhead the seats dont go back far enough lol

Not wanting to sound a pedant but...

Wheres the 'New' Defender?   ;D

Its got a stay of execution until, I think, 2014.  Still based on the original wartime chassis etc.

If its a 90 pickup then, yes, its got no rearward seat movement to speak of.  If a County or 110 then there is at least some adjustment.  I find it best to actually move the seat forward then tip the back backwards....   :y

You're quite right, they've not changed.

It was a 90 hard top, but it had a half bulkhead behind the front seats
Title: Re: just had a spin in a rangie sport
Post by: hotel21 on 12 April 2011, 23:00:09
Autobiographies are fine cars.  Spirited, good response, and as quick to stop you from a ton as they are to get you there in the first place.

Remember to prime the suspension into the corners though.  Still the same saggy but predictable handling.

Sports are, I feel, the young pretenders and very much the chav factor and I forsee prices will plumet in comparison to the RR.  Especially when the Evoque comes on, in September.   ;)
Title: Re: just had a spin in a rangie sport
Post by: tunnie on 12 April 2011, 23:01:51
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...... but then the New defender is the same too, because of the bulkhead the seats dont go back far enough lol

Not wanting to sound a pedant but...

Wheres the 'New' Defender?   ;D

Its got a stay of execution until, I think, 2014.  Still based on the original wartime chassis etc.

If its a 90 pickup then, yes, its got no rearward seat movement to speak of.  If a County or 110 then there is at least some adjustment.  I find it best to actually move the seat forward then tip the back backwards....   :y

Like the Ford Crown Victoria, its going to be one of those cars governments/law enforcement/Army won't want to loose!
Title: Re: just had a spin in a rangie sport
Post by: hotel21 on 12 April 2011, 23:05:47
Defender. 

No side impact bars.
No airbags.
No immobiliser.
No seatbelt pretensioners.
Remote alarm blipper on doors almost across the range.  But not quite.  Still needs key or Mk1 arm to lock.
Windy windows.



2 things you can see on earth from the surface of the moon.

The Great wall of China and....



.... doorgaps on a Defender.

Basic, well, yes...

Would I buy one?

Yup.  ;)
Title: Re: just had a spin in a rangie sport
Post by: tunnie on 12 April 2011, 23:08:35
i'd have this version :)

Shame, they don't all come with Lara Croft:

(http://www.larasanctuary.com/lookalike/jenny/031.JPG)
Title: Re: just had a spin in a rangie sport
Post by: hotel21 on 12 April 2011, 23:12:32
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i'd have this version :)

(http://www.thestarphoenix.com/cars/1456710.bin?size=620x400)

Page not found?

We had one in a few weeks ago.  The owner had tweeked it with about 35K of extras including gearbox, transfer box etc mods.  It was quick for a brick on wheels. And stopped quite well too.

Cruised at 90 on the motorway in 5th with a gear to go, and the revs were relatively low.  Got there sharp as a knife when prodded as well.  8-)
Title: Re: just had a spin in a rangie sport
Post by: o-meg-a on 12 April 2011, 23:12:56
http://www.landrover.com/gb/en/lr/defender/explore/special-edition/

this is the one i sat in in the dealership last month.
was all tarted up, but nothings changed. Just a bit more clean and tidy inside than the old 80's defender i had lol
Title: Re: just had a spin in a rangie sport
Post by: hotel21 on 12 April 2011, 23:14:33
The Tomb Raider version was a pickup with external roll cage and all the leccy toys you could ask for, as I recall.  Heated seats/front screen etc as well as windows.  The rear bed housed a pull out drawer, or perhaps that was the 60th anniversary model?   :-/
Title: Re: just had a spin in a rangie sport
Post by: tunnie on 12 April 2011, 23:15:42
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i'd have this version :)

(http://www.thestarphoenix.com/cars/1456710.bin?size=620x400)

Page not found?

We had one in a few weeks ago.  The owner had tweeked it with about 35K of extras including gearbox, transfer box etc mods.  It was quick for a brick on wheels. And stopped quite well too.

Cruised at 90 on the motorway in 5th with a gear to go, and the revs were relatively low.  Got there sharp as a knife when prodded as well.  8-)

Fixed.

Just searched AT for them actually, as mother T was a bit stuck in snow last year unable to go anywhere. Considering a 4x4, thought I could pick one up for 3 figures, but damn, they hold their value well!  :o

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/search/used/cars/land_rover/defender/postcode/tw89de/radius/1501/quicksearch/true/price-to/2000
Title: Re: just had a spin in a rangie sport
Post by: hotel21 on 12 April 2011, 23:16:37
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http://www.landrover.com/gb/en/lr/defender/explore/special-edition/

this is the one i sat in in the dealership last month.
was all tarted up, but nothings changed. Just a bit more clean and tidy inside than the old 80's defender i had lol

 ;D

and still no airbags, side impact bars or seatbelt pretensioners etc....   :y
Title: Re: just had a spin in a rangie sport
Post by: o-meg-a on 12 April 2011, 23:20:09
doesnt need em......
other cars and buildings just bounce off lol
Title: Re: just had a spin in a rangie sport
Post by: omegadan67 on 12 April 2011, 23:20:59
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...... but then the New defender is the same too, because of the bulkhead the seats dont go back far enough lol

Not wanting to sound a pedant but...

Wheres the 'New' Defender?   ;D

Its got a stay of execution until, I think, 2014.  Still based on the original wartime chassis etc.

If its a 90 pickup then, yes, its got no rearward seat movement to speak of.  If a County or 110 then there is at least some adjustment.  I find it best to actually move the seat forward then tip the back backwards....   :y

You're quite right, they've not changed.

It was a 90 hard top, but it had a half bulkhead behind the front seats


can you expand on this cos as i recall the land rovers wheelbase has changed 5 times in 50 years
 andif you want the definitive range rover it would have to be a 1988 soft dash range rover classic overfinch 570T

definitive land rover would have to be the s3v8 stage 1
Title: Re: just had a spin in a rangie sport
Post by: o-meg-a on 12 April 2011, 23:24:19
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The Tomb Raider version was a pickup with external roll cage and all the leccy toys you could ask for, as I recall.  Heated seats/front screen etc as well as windows.  The rear bed housed a pull out drawer, or perhaps that was the 60th anniversary model?   :-/

The official one was a 110 pickup with external roll cage, roof rack blah blah

but they did a 90 too. Bit more tame. None of them actually look like the one she drove mind.
Which was this one
(http://image.fourwheeler.com/f/31557204/129_1001_06_o+vintage_land_rovers+tomb_raider_defender.jpg)

the consumer release ones looked like this:
(http://static.bf2s.com/files/user/28748/defender_90_tomb_raider_1.jpg)

and this
(http://www.adrianstomcat.co.uk/LaraCroft/TombRaider02.jpg)

All described here
http://www.adrianstomcat.co.uk/LaraCroft.htm

Title: Re: just had a spin in a rangie sport
Post by: o-meg-a on 12 April 2011, 23:25:21
by not changed, i was referring to the '90 only
Title: Re: just had a spin in a rangie sport
Post by: Turk on 12 April 2011, 23:26:01
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If your going to have one... there's only one to have ...

http://www.overfinch.com/main.asp?launch=true

:)

 ;D  A 4WD, 'go anywhere' vehicle that can't, due to bling rims and low profile tyres.  Genius !!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: just had a spin in a rangie sport
Post by: omegadan67 on 12 April 2011, 23:39:46
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The Tomb Raider version was a pickup with external roll cage and all the leccy toys you could ask for, as I recall.  Heated seats/front screen etc as well as windows.  The rear bed housed a pull out drawer, or perhaps that was the 60th anniversary model?   :-/

The official one was a 110 pickup with external roll cage, roof rack blah blah

but they did a 90 too. Bit more tame. None of them actually look like the one she drove mind.
Which was this one
(http://image.fourwheeler.com/f/31557204/129_1001_06_o+vintage_land_rovers+tomb_raider_defender.jpg)

the consumer release ones looked like this:
(http://static.bf2s.com/files/user/28748/defender_90_tomb_raider_1.jpg)

and this
(http://www.adrianstomcat.co.uk/LaraCroft/TombRaider02.jpg)

All described here
http://www.adrianstomcat.co.uk/LaraCroft.htm

the official  tomb raider was indeed a 110 with exturnal roll cage, and the one in the film was a full open top 110 with roll cage and flop top doors.

 
Title: Re: just had a spin in a rangie sport
Post by: omegadan67 on 12 April 2011, 23:42:46
as for saftey

Road accident statistics on a model-by-model basis from the UK Department for Transport show that the Land Rover Defender is one of the safest cars on British roads, measured in terms of chance of death in two car injury accidents.[33] The figures, which were based on data collected by police forces following accidents between 2000 and 2004 in Great Britain, showed that Defender drivers had a 1% chance of being killed or seriously injured and a 33% chance of sustaining any kind of injury. Other four-wheel-drive vehicles scored equally highly, and collectively these vehicles were much safer than those in other classes such as passenger cars and MPVs. The figures acknowledge that drivers of large mass vehicles are likely to be safer, often at the expense of other drivers if they collide with smaller cars.

Title: Re: just had a spin in a rangie sport
Post by: Banjax on 13 April 2011, 04:57:17
the trouble with the Rangie Sport is the huge neon sign on the roof that screams "I just got some money and have absolutely no taste"  ;D







unless you're a drug dealer of course where the sign says "Arrest me - I'm up to no good"  ;)