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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: feeutfo on 14 April 2011, 02:36:17
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-13054842
You've probably seen this story on the news. Not sure on the look of the car, but it's creating 400 jobs. :y
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-13054842
You've probably seen this story on the news. Not sure on the look of the car, but it's creating 400 jobs. :y
I would agree with that - certainly on appearance alone, it seems to be just another box to choose from.
but it's creating 400 jobs
That, for me at least, is the most important thing about this venture - should those jobs provide safe, dependable employment for local people of course - with the hope of more to come. :y
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400 jobs? thats one employee per car sold i reckon - it looks OK, but nothing special and being made in China guarantees they'll use the cheapest of the cheap materials........most people buy cars nowadays on look/feel/quality and economy so if it feels cheap and theres no diesel i reckon it'll struggle :(
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I wouldn't mind having a good look around one... Like you say Banjax, it doesn't look anything special but it may surprise you ;) ;)
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I'm a bit of an MG fan myself, and you will be surprised at the quality of the new car. The Chinese have gone all-out to create BMW style and Merc feel to a lot of it, and by my look at the web site and pictures, they have pretty much got there. it won't be a cheap car, but mondeo prices ensure its competative.
The BRITISH design team have made the car sporty but functional, and one of the guys on the MG forum has actually seen one cos he works for a company that transports cars from abroad. He says its pretty good, and was totally blown away by the car in the flesh. It remains to be seen if the general public will embrace the car, seeing as its essentially "chinese", but so far, so good. :y
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Parkers:
"Here’s where the MG6 begins to suffer. The materials used for the interior feel quite cheap to touch, and don’t have the same quality of rivals from Ford or VW".
"The low-quality ignition key, which feels cheap and plasticky compared to others in the class, adds to the budget feel".
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Surely given the name, reliability should be number one concern?
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Surely given the name, reliability should be number one concern?
Where's the popcorn... TB will be along in a minute ::) ;D
I also find that MG's are extremely thirsty... Friend had one (based on the Rover 45 IIRC) and it was worse on fuel than my Omega... In fact, he's now running a P reg BMW 740 and reckons there's not a lot of difference in the fuel economy :o :o
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Proof TB is the stig... ...in his slimmer days ;D a fitting end I think? :-X
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66vdESbE-0M&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/media]
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Did'nt think TV cameras had been invented in TB's "Slimmer Days"? ;D ;D ;D
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Must be enhanced footage from black and white. ;D
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Surely given the name, reliability should be number one concern?
Where's the popcorn... TB will be along in a minute ::) ;D
I also find that MG's are extremely thirsty... Friend had one (based on the Rover 45 IIRC) and it was worse on fuel than my Omega... In fact, he's now running a P reg BMW 740 and reckons there's not a lot of difference in the fuel economy :o :o
A good friend has recently aquired one of the 75 V8's and although it drives SO much better than the standard 75, its not actualy that powerful (and does not feel powerful either) and would not keep up with an MV6 through the windy stuff.
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The 1.8l petrol, turbo-charged MG6 has a top speed of 120mph (193km/h) and takes 8.4 seconds to go from 0-60mph.
It clearly is either gutless or has the aerodynamics of a sub-post-office. :o
A mate of mine had a 75 V8. Best thing about it was the sound.
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Surely given the name, reliability should be number one concern?
Where's the popcorn... TB will be along in a minute ::) ;D
I also find that MG's are extremely thirsty... Friend had one (based on the Rover 45 IIRC) and it was worse on fuel than my Omega... In fact, he's now running a P reg BMW 740 and reckons there's not a lot of difference in the fuel economy :o :o
A good friend has recently aquired one of the 75 V8's and although it drives SO much better than the standard 75, its not actualy that powerful (and does not feel powerful either) and would not keep up with an MV6 through the windy stuff.
The Mustang that the Rover engine comes from is just as disappointing; it looks like somebody accidentally increased the size by 20% without anyone noticing, and drives like it too. The best thing about my boss' GT is the noise it makes as she burbles down the drive
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Thats the only reason you'd have a v8...that noise!!!
The MGZT v8...which is the one you are referring to was a short run experiment by rover. They converted the whole car to RWD and chucked in a mustang v8....
I must point out several discrepancies in that Clarkson video.....
He pointed out the the river 216 had 103bhp.....thats wrong. The 1.4 has 103bhp....the 1.6 rover engine had 111bhp and the honda one was around 115bhp.
He said that he took the turbo from the MGZR....which IS a 200 series rover....the engines are basically identical with a little fettling. There was no turbo version.....Unless you count the L-series Diesel.
Its just full of incorrect information.
I have a big soft spot for rovers and have owned 6 different ones.
None of them have blown headgaskets.
4 of those were petrols, all the 1.4's and all were great engines. The 1st one i had was an older 214sei with a new mgzr engine in (same engine, but with newer head casting), this one was dyno'd at 126bhp....with just a catback exhaust and airfilter. very quick and revvy engine.
The diesels were great, the L-series was very tunable and robust. I had mine up from the original 105bhp to 130bhp with an adjustable tuning module made by an ex rover engineer. Was reasonably priced, and wired into the Pump and MAF.
Anyway....back to the MG6...i've been following this for a while now.
Most of the driven reviews i've read say the chassis is very well made and handles great...the engines, while a little bland, are more than capable and a diesel will be available eventually.
In a comparison with the ford focus, the materials were not quite up to scratch....but being british designed, the styling is contemporary and stylish.
I doubt you can paint the chinese MG6 with the same brush as any original rover or MG.
Its a completely new vehicle.
As for the original rover's engine reliability.
Headgasket failure was down to poor alloy head castings and the water way restriction they caused.
As long as they were never run dry and people kept on top of the coolant levels etc then there would not be a problem.
The issue is that they were high performance engines, built to very high tolerances, and most people are not as careful to check their coolant every week.
Or if it was low, still drive for a couple of miles to get home etc.
this resulted in overheatings, warped heads and high repair bills.
Stronger gaskets helped. but that was not the root of the problem.
Many attempts to improve the castings saw in an eventual increase in reliability under normal maintainence conditions.
The later models were mostly fine if looked after correctly
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The 1.8l petrol, turbo-charged MG6 has a top speed of 120mph (193km/h) and takes 8.4 seconds to go from 0-60mph.
It clearly is either gutless or has the aerodynamics of a sub-post-office. :o
A mate of mine had a 75 V8. Best thing about it was the sound.
Unless it's electronically limited? I didn't think they had that in China, but maybe they do - like Japan where everything is limited to 115mph (and beeps at you when you go over 110kph!)
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WTF ? :-?
Some things should be left un said. I mean why not come out while your at it? ;D.
That just ain't right O. Scary even :o
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WTF ? :-?
Some things should be left un said. I mean why not come out while your at it? ;D.
That just ain't right O. Scary even :o
You talkin about my post?
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WTF ? :-?
Some things should be left un said. I mean why not come out while your at it? ;D.
That just ain't right O. Scary even :o
You talkin about my post?
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Can't be healthy mate. ;)
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Well i would definitely argue otherwise till i'm blue in the face.
I would say that rover's offer the ultimate in economical motoring....in running costs, repairability, parts availability, and initial purchase costs.
more so than any omega....Only reason i dont have one now is purely down to size..
I needed something bigger and i found a cheapish cavernous estate in the omega.
I'm sure there are people on here that know an unhealthy amount about Omegas....
So i feel no shame in saying that i know that said unhealthy amount about rovers..as i've been keeping them on the roads for years.
Any enjoying it...
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Where's reverse, quick...
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well not much is going to tempt me to abandon my v8 cadillac but, a v8 rover might ::)
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Well i would definitely argue otherwise till i'm blue in the face.
I would say that rover's offer the ultimate in economical motoring....in running costs, repairability, parts availability, and initial purchase costs.
more so than any omega....Only reason i dont have one now is purely down to size..
I needed something bigger and i found a cheapish cavernous estate in the omega.
I'm sure there are people on here that know an unhealthy amount about Omegas....
So i feel no shame in saying that i know that said unhealthy amount about rovers..as i've been keeping them on the roads for years.
Any enjoying it...
i must admit to liking rovers :-/especially the 75 but now i have an elite i realise i much prefer the omega im undecided on the new mg offerings though :-/
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Liking is one thing, but....
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Liking is one thing, but....
Everyone has their vices.. I mean, I hear some people like dressing in one piece leather outfits...
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Liking is one thing, but....
Everyone has their vices.. I mean, I hear some people like dressing in one piece leather outfits...
and whats wrong with that ;D ;D ;D
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Liking is one thing, but....
Everyone has their vices.. I mean, I hear some people like dressing in one piece leather outfits...
and whats wrong with that ;D ;D ;D
Well if you're female then it's all good.. ;D
Speaking of people who like dressing up in leather mind .. I was in a BMW bike dealership today (sorry, 'BMW Motorrad' as it said on the sign outside - wasn't aware I was in Germany, but..) and couldn't help thinking how excited Tunnie would be if he was there .. with his ration packs and camping stove ;)
(Dealer is attached to an MOT place, and I was there busily failing my MOT :'( )
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Liking is one thing, but....
Everyone has their vices.. I mean, I hear some people like dressing in one piece leather outfits...
Perfectly normal ;)
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Liking is one thing, but....
Everyone has their vices.. I mean, I hear some people like dressing in one piece leather outfits...
Perfectly normal ;)
Mmmhmmm ;)
Oh and before anyone giggles at the thought - I didn't try sitting on any of the bikes.. I thought they might snap under the weight ;D
Also, having never got on a bike - I'd probably just look like a right berk while I tried to get my leg over and failed.. (actually, the same can be said about me and women!) ;D
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i live right next to longbridge and I see a lot of these cars driving around. they are worse in the metal which is a shame as I doubt they will sell all that well. Good for jobs in the areas though and to be honest it was needed.
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Liking is one thing, but....
Everyone has their vices.. I mean, I hear some people like dressing in one piece leather outfits...
Ooh a slight frisson has titillated the nether regions. :-* :-* :-* ;D
<waits patiently for further lurid details and pics>
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Liking is one thing, but....
Everyone has their vices.. I mean, I hear some people like dressing in one piece leather outfits...
Ooh a slight frisson has titillated the nether regions. :-* :-* :-* ;D
<waits patiently for further lurid details and pics>
;D ;D I'm sure Chris can dig out some pictures of himself if that's your bag, Den ;)
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... Getting increasingly concerned about some members on here.... :-/. ;D