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Title: Royal Wedding music
Post by: Nickbat on 28 April 2011, 22:41:06
Pleased to see that they have chosen the same post-service music as I did when I got married. Unfortunately, the elderly organist in the small Norfolk village was not really up to scratch when it came to Widor's Toccata:  ;) :-X

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByRkggPFiMM&feature=related[/media]

Yes, yes, I know there's another thread for those who couldn't care less, but frankly good luck to the couple and let's enjoy something that no other country in the world could possible emulate. These days, we're crap at most things, but pomp and circumstance we can still do. Don't knock it!  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: Nickbat on 28 April 2011, 22:46:40
...and Jerusalem on the way in. Still brings a lump to my throat. We always sang this at school at the beginning and end of term.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFrVrBQh_50[/media]

 :y :y
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: Debs. on 28 April 2011, 22:47:10
Widor! :-*

I have a particular weakness for the 32' contre-bombarde :y
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: TheBoy on 28 April 2011, 22:50:10
Who really gives a monkeys what the hell they chose? Its their wedding, and absolutely none of our business, as much as that useless money draining organisation, BBC, try to make it.
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: Nickbat on 28 April 2011, 22:51:51
..and the London Chamber Orchestra will be playing Fantasia on Greensleeves. I had the RPO play this at a concert I organised three years ago. I nearly forgot I had to pay extra for the harpist  ;) :-X:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlABnm6g4fI[/media]
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: Nickbat on 28 April 2011, 22:53:22
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Who really gives a monkeys what the hell they chose? Its their wedding, and absolutely none of our business, as much as that useless money draining organisation, BBC, try to make it.

FFS, Jaime!!

I like music and I like what they have chosen. Is it a crime to share my views on here?

  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: Elite Pete on 28 April 2011, 22:54:59
I'm made up they're having Jerusalem, at least they're not worried about upsetting all these bloody foreigners  :y
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: Nickbat on 28 April 2011, 23:11:22
They will also be playing Elgar's Serenade for Strings:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GjggrJE9No[/media]

Frankly, I think it's cynical that TB should carp on about the music when he clearly enjoys playing such music. Oh, yes, Jaime, we can see you at 0:48, though I expect you only wear the bins when you play the violin... ;) ;D ;D 
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 28 April 2011, 23:18:21
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...and Jerusalem on the way in. Still brings a lump to my throat. We always sang this at school at the beginning and end of term.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFrVrBQh_50

 :y :y

Yes, that's a great tune without doubt. 8-) :-* :y
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 28 April 2011, 23:34:08
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Widor! :-*

I have a particular weakness for the 32' contre-bombarde :y

A grand set of pipes in the hands and feet of a masterful player is a sound to behold. :-* :-* :y

Handel :-* :-* :-*

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXC-3ARbvqc&feature=fvst[/media]


Or the full-fat Saint-Saens. 8-)

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhwJcJdDOr0[/media]
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: CaptainZok on 28 April 2011, 23:35:29
What happened to the traditional "Fight the Good Fight"? ;D ;D
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 28 April 2011, 23:36:33
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They will also be playing Elgar's Serenade for Strings:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GjggrJE9No



That's a sweet wee piece :-* :-* :y
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: Nickbat on 28 April 2011, 23:40:39
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Widor! :-*

I have a particular weakness for the 32' contre-bombarde :y

A grand set of pipes in the hands and feet of a masterful player is a sound to behold. :-* :-* :y

Handel :-* :-* :-*

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXC-3ARbvqc&feature=fvst[/media]


Or the full-fat Saint-Saens. 8-)

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhwJcJdDOr0[/media]


Love them both, Den. Thanks for posting!  :y :y
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: Debs. on 28 April 2011, 23:40:50
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Or the full-fat Saint-Saens. 8-)

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhwJcJdDOr0[/media]

 :yNow you`ve done it, Den.......how wonderful; my all-time favourite composition with organ. 8-)

......"That`ll do, Pig!" :-*
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: Nickbat on 28 April 2011, 23:43:37
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They will also be playing Elgar's Serenade for Strings:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GjggrJE9No



That's a sweet wee piece :-* :-* :y

Pleased you like it, Den.
But it is Jaime (TB) at 0:48, isn't it? Playing for a Spanish orchestra...and hoping we wouldn't notice.

El fiddler Jaime rules!  ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 29 April 2011, 01:00:09
I have watched and also listened to the music you have all posted.
My question is this?
Do any of those musicians actually look at the guy prancing his arms around like a fairy? Is sure doesn't look like they do...
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: Banjax on 29 April 2011, 01:25:00
this is what we had playing as we entered the reception after the ceremony  :y
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbPcUrHsD8A[/media]
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 29 April 2011, 08:33:57
That is the Icing on the cake Banjo. .
I love you  :-*
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: maria on 29 April 2011, 08:53:43
I don't care what music they have chosen as its only  bloody a wedding , all the fuss is gone to every ones head , why should it be special we dont get the same publicity when we get married but they do I can't be arsed with it all and won't be watching it , thats my rant over with .
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: waspy on 29 April 2011, 08:57:29
Is there a wedding :-? :-/ ;D
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: tidla on 29 April 2011, 10:23:35
i hope all goes well and those officers with the firearms and those  less visable get to keep the weapons in their holsters.
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: Lazydocker on 29 April 2011, 10:30:33
I must admit, although I think it's all a bit over-hyped, I do like the fact that the country is behind them.  :y :y

As for the choice of music... Jerusalem and Widor's Toccata are good choices :y I was spoilt as I went to a school that is graced with the third largest Organ in Europe and a fantastic instrument... Makes the whole building vibrate and when 1500 people are singing along to Jerusalem it's a fantastic experience :y :y
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: Kevin Wood on 29 April 2011, 10:34:17
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this is what we had playing as we entered the reception after the ceremony  :y
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbPcUrHsD8A[/media]

We had this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSZB0NjRqzc

The organist did a great arrangement of it and we walked out of the church to a few knowing smiles from the sci-fi geeks in the audience and puzzlement from the music buffs who seemed sure they'd heard it before somewhere, but.... ;D

The organ pictured in that Widor video looks huge! How many manuals? I have the greatest respect for a musician who can tame such a beast. Makes this one, which I've helped to maintain in the past, look a bit girly. ;D

http://www.guildhall-compton.org.uk/

Kevin
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: TheBoy on 29 April 2011, 10:54:47
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Who really gives a monkeys what the hell they chose? Its their wedding, and absolutely none of our business, as much as that useless money draining organisation, BBC, try to make it.

FFS, Jaime!!

I like music and I like what they have chosen. Is it a crime to share my views on here?

  >:( >:( >:(
I like music. Of most genres.

My point being that do we have to keep analysing this bloody wedding. Its a PRIVATE wedding, not a STATE OCCASION, so it really is none of our business, as much as the media trys to make it  >:(

I have no issues with discussion of music, I find it a fascinating subject, but I come on here because to escape the crap going on in London that is only the business of 2 people and 2000 of their friends and family.
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 April 2011, 11:05:17
I'm going to make a point of missing this royal crap. Just how much money is this anachronistic pomp costing the British taxpayer?.....  :-/ :-/
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: Lazydocker on 29 April 2011, 11:13:44
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I'm going to make a point of missing this royal crap. Just how much money is this anachronistic pomp costing the British taxpayer?.....  :-/ :-/

Not as much as it could have... We've only paid for the ceremony and the families are paying for the rest :y :y
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: TheBoy on 29 April 2011, 11:22:49
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I'm going to make a point of missing this royal crap. Just how much money is this anachronistic pomp costing the British taxpayer?.....  :-/ :-/
Though not a Royalist, I think they are good for the UK, and represent fantastic value for money - moreso in recent years as the current Queen has adjusted to commoners critisms.
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: Debs. on 29 April 2011, 11:26:39
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I'm going to make a point of missing this royal crap. Just how much money is this anachronistic pomp costing the British taxpayer?.....  :-/ :-/
Though not a Royalist, I think they are good for the UK, and represent fantastic value for money - moreso in recent years as the current Queen has adjusted to commoners critisms.

 ::)Yes, she has accepted that it must be "simply beastly for us; being so poor!"
;D
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: TheBoy on 29 April 2011, 11:30:04
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I'm going to make a point of missing this royal crap. Just how much money is this anachronistic pomp costing the British taxpayer?.....  :-/ :-/
Though not a Royalist, I think they are good for the UK, and represent fantastic value for money - moreso in recent years as the current Queen has adjusted to commoners critisms.

 ::)Yes, she has accepted that it must be "simply beastly for us; being so poor!"
;D
In fairness to Maj, she now pays taxes (out of the tax we give her ::)), opens her homes to generate income to pay for upkeep, and rebuild of Windsor etc.


I have massive respect for Maj, think she is brilliant for British citizens, and hope she will stay on the throne until the day she passes.
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: Lazydocker on 29 April 2011, 11:32:57
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I'm going to make a point of missing this royal crap. Just how much money is this anachronistic pomp costing the British taxpayer?.....  :-/ :-/
Though not a Royalist, I think they are good for the UK, and represent fantastic value for money - moreso in recent years as the current Queen has adjusted to commoners critisms.

 ::)Yes, she has accepted that it must be "simply beastly for us; being so poor!"
;D
In fairness to Maj, she now pays taxes (out of the tax we give her ::)), opens her homes to generate income to pay for upkeep, and rebuild of Windsor etc.


I have massive respect for Maj, think she is brilliant for British citizens, and hope she will stay on the throne until the day she passes.

Most fo the Royal Family are good for the country. They also "take" a lot less of the tax we pay than most people think ;) Most of their income is generated by themselves  :y

Oh... And an interesting bit of trivia... The Queen does not carry money, ever! She's not allowed to :y
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: TheBoy on 29 April 2011, 11:38:32
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The Queen does not carry money, ever! She's not allowed to :y
Much like myself.  Though I suspect I'm not called a queen for that reason ::) ;D
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: Lazydocker on 29 April 2011, 11:45:33
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The Queen does not carry money, ever! She's not allowed to :y
Much like myself.  Though I suspect I'm not called a queen for that reason ::) ;D

At least you're finally coming out :-X :-X ::) ::) :D :D
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: TheBoy on 29 April 2011, 11:57:25
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The Queen does not carry money, ever! She's not allowed to :y
Much like myself.  Though I suspect I'm not called a queen for that reason ::) ;D

At least you're finally coming out :-X :-X ::) ::) :D :D
I feel I can, as GayBoyGixer is too far away to make a pass...
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: tidla on 29 April 2011, 11:57:27
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I'm going to make a point of missing this royal crap. Just how much money is this anachronistic pomp costing the British taxpayer?.....  :-/ :-/
Though not a Royalist, I think they are good for the UK, and represent fantastic value for money - moreso in recent years as the current Queen has adjusted to commoners critisms.

dont know how true this is.. the queen only met the outlaws the other week..
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: Lazydocker on 29 April 2011, 12:03:33
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I'm going to make a point of missing this royal crap. Just how much money is this anachronistic pomp costing the British taxpayer?.....  :-/ :-/
Though not a Royalist, I think they are good for the UK, and represent fantastic value for money - moreso in recent years as the current Queen has adjusted to commoners critisms.

dont know how true this is.. the queen only met the outlaws the other week..

But she's only a Grandmother ;) ;)
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: tidla on 29 April 2011, 12:14:05
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I'm going to make a point of missing this royal crap. Just how much money is this anachronistic pomp costing the British taxpayer?.....  :-/ :-/
Though not a Royalist, I think they are good for the UK, and represent fantastic value for money - moreso in recent years as the current Queen has adjusted to commoners critisms.

dont know how true this is.. the queen only met the outlaws the other week..

But she's only a Grandmother ;) ;)

might of had something to say if william had chose a girl from the "shameless" estate.

talking of such, whats the name of kate sister?? ::)
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 29 April 2011, 13:29:28
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I'm going to make a point of missing this royal crap. Just how much money is this anachronistic pomp costing the British taxpayer?.....  :-/ :-/
Though not a Royalist, I think they are good for the UK, and represent fantastic value for money - moreso in recent years as the current Queen has adjusted to commoners critisms.

 ::)Yes, she has accepted that it must be "simply beastly for us; being so poor!"
;D


 ;D ;D ;D Outstanding. 8-) :y
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 29 April 2011, 13:32:49
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Oh... And an interesting bit of trivia... The Queen does not carry money, ever! She's not allowed to :y

Neither do I - for the rather more prosaic reason of not having any. :( ;D :y
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: Banjax on 29 April 2011, 13:44:13
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Oh... And an interesting bit of trivia... The Queen does not carry money, ever! She's not allowed to :y

Neither do I - for the rather more prosaic reason of not having any. :( ;D :y



even for ID?  :-? ;D ;D
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: Nickbat on 29 April 2011, 13:48:10
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Who really gives a monkeys what the hell they chose? Its their wedding, and absolutely none of our business, as much as that useless money draining organisation, BBC, try to make it.

FFS, Jaime!!

I like music and I like what they have chosen. Is it a crime to share my views on here?

  >:( >:( >:(
I like music. Of most genres.

My point being that do we have to keep analysing this bloody wedding. Its a PRIVATE wedding, not a STATE OCCASION, so it really is none of our business, as much as the media trys to make it  >:(

I have no issues with discussion of music, I find it a fascinating subject, but I come on here because to escape the crap going on in London that is only the business of 2 people and 2000 of their friends and family.


Ah, that's why it's a Public Holiday, then.  ::)
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 29 April 2011, 14:04:36
they may have had the sex pistols to do the music be more fun
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 April 2011, 14:43:13
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Oh... And an interesting bit of trivia... The Queen does not carry money, ever! She's not allowed to :y

Neither do I - for the rather more prosaic reason of not having any. :( ;D :y


In common with most Omega owners....... ;)
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: Nickbat on 29 April 2011, 22:09:17
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I have watched and also listened to the music you have all posted.
My question is this?
Do any of those musicians actually look at the guy prancing his arms around like a fairy? Is sure doesn't look like they do...

Although musicians may disagree, my experience suggests that the conductor's hardest work is often unseen. Generally, at rehearsals, he (or she) will go through the music and decide on tempo and other specific parts, often in great detail. By the time of the performance, then, professional orchestras will already be familiar with the way the conductor wants a piece played and will therefore not need to keep glancing up to be aware of the tempo. That said, the conductor can still use signals to emphasise or remind players of certain requirements. A conductor can make or break a piece. One of my favourite pieces is the St Paul's Suite (Holst). I have it on CD, recorded by the RPO. However, Classic FM always plays the piece recorded by another orchestra which is played at a much faster tempo and, to my mind, the music is spoiled. I don't know which is definitively correct (though I could guess), but the change in tempo is purely down to the conductor alone.

I would emphasise, though, that I am not a musician...these are just my thoughts. ;) 
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 30 April 2011, 08:35:53
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I have watched and also listened to the music you have all posted.
My question is this?
Do any of those musicians actually look at the guy prancing his arms around like a fairy? Is sure doesn't look like they do...

Although musicians may disagree, my experience suggests that the conductor's hardest work is often unseen. Generally, at rehearsals, he (or she) will go through the music and decide on tempo and other specific parts, often in great detail. By the time of the performance, then, professional orchestras will already be familiar with the way the conductor wants a piece played and will therefore not need to keep glancing up to be aware of the tempo. That said, the conductor can still use signals to emphasise or remind players of certain requirements. A conductor can make or break a piece. One of my favourite pieces is the St Paul's Suite (Holst). I have it on CD, recorded by the RPO. However, Classic FM always plays the piece recorded by another orchestra which is played at a much faster tempo and, to my mind, the music is spoiled. I don't know which is definitively correct (though I could guess), but the change in tempo is purely down to the conductor alone.

I would emphasise, though, that I am not a musician...these are just my thoughts. ;) 

Yes, I certainly agree with that Nick.  The conductor provides much more than the tempo and musical emphasis for any particular piece of performed music.

There is a lot of the conductor's personality in how the piece is eventually reproduced - even though the composer's score provides the framework of the piece (as they conceived it) any conductor, while using the original score as a basis upon which to build his own interpretation of it, can make certain changes to the phrasing and emphasis of the construction but more importantly, to the tempo.

The result may well have marked differences to the original concept.

This is one reason why an early Colin Davis was a bit of an eye-roller in my view.
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: Humpy on 30 April 2011, 10:11:39
I once heard Toccata played in Guildford cathedral when I was about 14 which was designed with acoustics in mind and the organist knew what he was doing. Everybody stopped and listened (it wasn't a service just an open for public day) it was fantastic. Never forgotten that  :)

Humpy
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: Jimbob on 30 April 2011, 13:52:19
We had Bach's Toccata played on Chester Cathedral's organ, both at the rehearsal for, and at our wedding there.

Was amazing being up in the organ room and hearing that blast out, everyone stopped and listened.

We had that, and Pacabel's Canon
Title: Re: Royal Wedding music
Post by: Debs. on 30 April 2011, 14:14:52
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We had Bach's Toccata played on Chester Cathedral's organ, both at the rehearsal for, and at our wedding there.

Was amazing being up in the organ room and hearing that blast out, everyone stopped and listened.

We had that, and Pacabel's Canon

`Hope it was firing blank-rounds! ;D