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Title: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: Banjax on 04 May 2011, 09:55:32





Yes.
Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: markfree on 04 May 2011, 10:00:14
Proof :question
Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: Banjax on 04 May 2011, 10:02:40



sweet.

jesus.


Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: Jimbob on 04 May 2011, 10:07:39
Suspicious, very suspicious...

but would be a very stupid move if he wasnt 'nutralised' as he would soon be on Telly to prove em wrong
Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 04 May 2011, 10:25:31
fifty vs fifty imo..

hair cut, moustache , sun glasses on,

he could be well drinking coke in hawaii beach ;D
Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: Shimmy on 04 May 2011, 10:32:06
I don't question that he's dead.

I do question the timing though, it's rather convenient.
Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: albitz on 04 May 2011, 10:46:08
Nope, he served me cod and chips last night. ;) :-X



 ::) :D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 04 May 2011, 10:50:40
or he died a second time ;D ;D :D :D :D
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8444069.stm
Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: TheBoy on 04 May 2011, 11:17:40
Is it possible they took him alive ::)
Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: tigers_gonads on 04 May 2011, 11:44:19
Nope

He is sat in a cell somewhere been waterboarded and other rather painful experiences to within a inch of his life  :y

When the yanks and acociated inteligence services are convinced he can tell them no more, he will get a double tap in the scull and be disposed of  :y

With a bit of luck, in a pig stye ( they will eat ANYTHING )  ;) ;)


light fuse and stands well back ...................

Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: Cliffo B on 04 May 2011, 11:49:00
They dumped him in the sea hopefully alive with sharks haveing a feeding frenzy :y
Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: Varche on 04 May 2011, 13:28:24
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Nope

He is sat in a cell somewhere been waterboarded and other rather painful experiences to within a inch of his life  :y

When the yanks and acociated inteligence services are convinced he can tell them no more, he will get a double tap in the scull and be disposed of  :y

With a bit of luck, in a pig stye ( they will eat ANYTHING )  ;) ;)


light fuse and stands well back ...................


Spot on. You don't mount a massive operation like that and lose the possibility of gaining intel. The body dumped at sea was just for the masses. At the moment they haven't a photo of him dead yet as he is still giving up info. :y
Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: Steve Wood on 04 May 2011, 13:36:02
^^ Agreed, its a big hoax by the americans if you ask me, the fact they have been searching every mountain in Afgan and he just happens to turn up in a two bed appartment not too far from a Pakistan military base...........

I'm glad that they have got rid of him in some shape or form
Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: Shimmy on 04 May 2011, 13:45:07
Osama Bin Laden - jihad it coming.







 :P




Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: tigers_gonads on 04 May 2011, 15:46:40
Whats the difference between Henry Cooper and Osama Bin Laden, Henry Cooper could stay on his feet after 2 rounds.... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: Banjax on 04 May 2011, 16:28:20
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Nope

He is sat in a cell somewhere been waterboarded and other rather painful experiences to within a inch of his life  :y

When the yanks and acociated inteligence services are convinced he can tell them no more, he will get a double tap in the scull and be disposed of  :y

With a bit of luck, in a pig stye ( they will eat ANYTHING )  ;) ;)


light fuse and stands well back ...................


Spot on. You don't mount a massive operation like that and lose the possibility of gaining intel. The body dumped at sea was just for the masses. At the moment they haven't a photo of him dead yet as he is still giving up info. :y


I saw a photo of him dead on SKY News when the news broke - Eammon Holmes introduced it with a warning - dont know why they've pulled it since  :o
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Post by: aaronjb on 04 May 2011, 16:29:22
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Nope

He is sat in a cell somewhere been waterboarded and other rather painful experiences to within a inch of his life  :y

When the yanks and acociated inteligence services are convinced he can tell them no more, he will get a double tap in the scull and be disposed of  :y

With a bit of luck, in a pig stye ( they will eat ANYTHING )  ;) ;)


light fuse and stands well back ...................


Spot on. You don't mount a massive operation like that and lose the possibility of gaining intel. The body dumped at sea was just for the masses. At the moment they haven't a photo of him dead yet as he is still giving up info. :y


I saw a photo of him dead on SKY News when the news broke - Eammon Holmes introduced it with a warning - dont know why they've pulled it since  :o

Because it's been widely discredited as fake, perhaps?
Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: bob.dent on 04 May 2011, 16:33:37
 :o :o :o
Why oh why does there always have to be some kind of conspiracy theory that goes with any major event that takes place in the world. Are we no longer capable of accepting that some things really do happen?!!   ::)
Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: Banjax on 04 May 2011, 16:34:18
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Nope

He is sat in a cell somewhere been waterboarded and other rather painful experiences to within a inch of his life  :y

When the yanks and acociated inteligence services are convinced he can tell them no more, he will get a double tap in the scull and be disposed of  :y

With a bit of luck, in a pig stye ( they will eat ANYTHING )  ;) ;)


light fuse and stands well back ...................


Spot on. You don't mount a massive operation like that and lose the possibility of gaining intel. The body dumped at sea was just for the masses. At the moment they haven't a photo of him dead yet as he is still giving up info. :y


I saw a photo of him dead on SKY News when the news broke - Eammon Holmes introduced it with a warning - dont know why they've pulled it since  :o

Because it's been widely discredited as fake, perhaps?


has it?  :o :o

is this one of those "internet rumours" thats based on a few conspiracy nuts and no real facts?  ;D
Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: Stallion on 04 May 2011, 16:37:46
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:o :o :o
Why oh why does there always have to be some kind of conspiracy theory that goes with any major event that takes place in the world. Are we no longer capable of accepting that some things really do happen?!!   ::)

Media isnt always what it seems, maybe few years down the line you'll find out Obama did to secure his seat in the WH!  :y
Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: Stallion on 04 May 2011, 16:41:15
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is this one of those "internet rumours" thats based on a few conspiracy nuts and no real facts?  ;D
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Definitely not a internet rumour, more on the global scale! but either way hope there is some truth in whats in the news! ;) ;)
Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: aaronjb on 04 May 2011, 16:42:53
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Nope

He is sat in a cell somewhere been waterboarded and other rather painful experiences to within a inch of his life  :y

When the yanks and acociated inteligence services are convinced he can tell them no more, he will get a double tap in the scull and be disposed of  :y

With a bit of luck, in a pig stye ( they will eat ANYTHING )  ;) ;)


light fuse and stands well back ...................


Spot on. You don't mount a massive operation like that and lose the possibility of gaining intel. The body dumped at sea was just for the masses. At the moment they haven't a photo of him dead yet as he is still giving up info. :y


I saw a photo of him dead on SKY News when the news broke - Eammon Holmes introduced it with a warning - dont know why they've pulled it since  :o

Because it's been widely discredited as fake, perhaps?


has it?  :o :o

is this one of those "internet rumours" thats based on a few conspiracy nuts and no real facts?  ;D

http://www.securitynewsdaily.com/fbi-warns-against-fake-osama-bin-laden-pics-0753/

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The FBI issued a warning yesterday (May 3) against opening emails claiming to show photos or videos of Osama bin Laden's death, as they likely contain corrupted software rigged to infect your computer and steal your personal information.

Although pictures of bin Laden's corpse do exist, the U.S. government has not yet decided if it will release them to the public

http://www.euronews.net/2011/05/02/dead-bin-laden-photo-is-a-fake/

http://photoblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/05/02/6568249-webs-bin-laden-death-photo-just-the-photo-is-fake

Following link contains the picture and is definitely NSFW or those of a weak stomach:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/02/osama-bin-laden-photo-fake

This contains the same photo:
http://shyniblog.blogspot.com/2011/05/osama-bin-laden-dead-body-fake-photos.html


[edit] Although I find it hard to believe, on second thoughts, that you hadn't read about that at least somewhere (the BBC, the Guardian etc etc) so perhaps you were just being funny and I didn't catch it.
Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: Banjax on 04 May 2011, 17:07:46
no - hadnt read it -busy day today  ;)- that pic on the right was the one shown on Sky, so OK its a fake, doesnt mean OBL isnt dead, but I'll concede the yanks are making a right horlicks of releasing the story to press  ;D :o
Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: aaronjb on 04 May 2011, 17:12:15
I never said anything about him still being alive, though - just that they'd no doubt withdrawn the picture because someone had pointed out they're a poor excuse for journalists who don't do any fact checking and just blindly copy pictures from other news outlets ;)

(It seems the picture may first have been aired by a Pakistani TV news network and subsequently taken as fact by .. well, everyone else)
Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 04 May 2011, 17:13:10
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:o :o :o
Why oh why does there always have to be some kind of conspiracy theory that goes with any major event that takes place in the world. Are we no longer capable of accepting that some things really do happen?!!   ::)

.. because in this case there are too many questions, IMHO.

How could he have been living under the shadow of the Pakistani military without the U.S., not least the Pakistanis, knowing about it despite the property having been tagged as "suspicious" years previously?

I'd bet that if someone built a fortress in the middle of Aldershot and moved in a wanted terrorist it would attract a little scrutiny. ;)

Why did they shoot him dead? He was allegedly unarmed, frail and unable to walk so unlikely to have been a threat to the special forces. Wouldn't they have taken him alive in such circumstances? Wouldn't he have been more use alive?

They managed to stop his wife coming for them with a bullet in the leg, apparently. Why not him? His death, as presented, was either a lie or a summary execution.

Why are the US now blurting about the data they have got from his PCs, hard drives, memory sticks, etc? Surely that data will become useless now it is known - unless they have nothing and are hoping it will spook some of his followers into relocating?

Would the US not have gathered some evidence of his capture and presented it to stop all this (predictable) speculation if they could? Would they not have at least kept his body rather than getting shot of it as soon as possible?

I reckon that the release of propaganda news related to this event is being heavily "managed" for political reasons if nothing more sinister.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if there's a decoy at the bottom of the ocean and he's on a slow boat to Guantanamo being milked for everything they can get. ;)

Kevin
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Post by: hotel21 on 04 May 2011, 17:18:59
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......I wouldn't be at all surprised if there's a decoy at the bottom of the ocean and he's on a slow boat to Guantanamo being milked for everything they can get. ;)


That one gets my vote.

Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 04 May 2011, 17:20:13
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Osama Bin Laden - jihad it coming.







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 ;D ;D ;D Outstanding. ;D ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: cleggy on 04 May 2011, 17:44:15
Definitely dead I saw himtoday in Wilko's on a shelf labelled Bin Liners. ;)

I'll get my coat ;D
Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: Banjax on 04 May 2011, 18:59:28
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I never said anything about him still being alive, though - just that they'd no doubt withdrawn the picture because someone had pointed out they're a poor excuse for journalists who don't do any fact checking and just blindly copy pictures from other news outlets ;)

(It seems the picture may first have been aired by a Pakistani TV news network and subsequently taken as fact by .. well, everyone else)


that'll teach me to watch Sky - its like weasel news but not as funny - weasel news is unwatchable early in the morning because its 2 mins of "news/comedy" for every 20 mins of ads  :(
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Post by: aaronjb on 04 May 2011, 19:08:02
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I never said anything about him still being alive, though - just that they'd no doubt withdrawn the picture because someone had pointed out they're a poor excuse for journalists who don't do any fact checking and just blindly copy pictures from other news outlets ;)

(It seems the picture may first have been aired by a Pakistani TV news network and subsequently taken as fact by .. well, everyone else)


that'll teach me to watch Sky - its like weasel news but not as funny - weasel news is unwatchable early in the morning because its 2 mins of "news/comedy" for every 20 mins of ads  :(

See I just try to avoid the news at all costs  ;)
Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: Varche on 04 May 2011, 19:40:20
Just to confirm the situation.

1. Bin Laden is alive and in captivity and spilling the beans

2. A large number of White House aides are considering new jobs over the bungling of the press briefings (it seems video footage of "live seals action" is not enough)

3. Pakistani diplomats are claiming that other countries intelligence agencies weren't doing enough. (there were some big clues there under your noses)

4. The masses believe the body dumped was that of Bin Laden and not that of some other unfortunate. They can now get back to reading OK! and watching xxxx country has talent. normality returns     ..............
Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: Sixstring on 05 May 2011, 09:04:39
I like that one..........................................! ;D
Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: Banjax on 05 May 2011, 09:17:34
theres a fantastic phone-in on radio 5 now with hilarious conspiracy nuts, now dubbed "Deathers" much like the ludicrous "Birthers" who still dont believe Obama was born in the USA  ;D
Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 05 May 2011, 09:21:10
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theres a fantastic phone-in on radio 5 now with hilarious conspiracy nuts, now called "Deathers" much like the ludicrous "Birthers" who still dont believe Obama was born in the USA  ;D

He was? Oh, that's right, the birth certificate is in the post, along with the well-stuffed brown paper envelope. ;D
Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: Banjax on 05 May 2011, 09:38:42
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theres a fantastic phone-in on radio 5 now with hilarious conspiracy nuts, now called "Deathers" much like the ludicrous "Birthers" who still dont believe Obama was born in the USA  ;D

He was? Oh, that's right, the birth certificate is in the post, along with the well-stuffed brown paper envelope. ;D


yep every media outlet, family member, hospital worker, government official, local records staff, local newspapers, school friend, acquaintance, fellow college students...........they are all sworn to silence  ;D

trouble with conspiracy nuts is they have a vastly inflated idea of how efficient and secret governments can be - people cant keep a lid on juicy gossip for more than a few hours, let alone thousands of people keeping schtum for years  ::)

good point on the radio - if governments and media are all so good at cover ups and conspiracies....why didnt we find any WMD in Iraq? That would have been a piece of p1$$ to fake and would have stopped a lot of bleating about the war surely  :o
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Post by: dragonlord on 05 May 2011, 10:22:41
no hes in my kitchen wiping up a curry

and Elvis is watching TV on my sofa with one of the Roswell aliens  ;D

Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: bob.dent on 05 May 2011, 10:34:05
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no hes in my kitchen wiping up a curry

and Elvis is watching TV on my sofa with one of the Roswell aliens
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 ;D ;D ;D

Excellent! :y
Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: unlucky alf on 05 May 2011, 23:04:57
Might be worth listening to the late Benazir Bhutto talking to David frost in 2007       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIO8B6fpFSQ
skip it forward to 5 mins 40 secs & listen to about 6 mins 30 secs, also notice how Frost unbelievably let it go over his head. :o shortly after this she was assasinated
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Post by: geoffr70 on 05 May 2011, 23:22:40
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Might be worth listening to the late Benazir Bhutto talking to David frost in 2007       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIO8B6fpFSQ
skip it forward to 5 mins 40 secs & listen to about 6 mins 30 secs, also notice how Frost unbelievably let it go over his head. :o shortly after this she was assasinated

yeah but they're all called mohammed, or osama or hussein or something! She could be talking about someone else with the same name
Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 05 May 2011, 23:34:47
In any case whether he’s dead or otherwise, the Obama Administration has made such a balls of handing the news of the operation that they have done all but discredit the worthiness of it.

This is another example of cheap talk and confused leadership in my view.
Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: Nickbat on 06 May 2011, 14:35:25
Even Al-Qaeda now admit he was killled in the operation. Still, that won't stop the conspiracy theorists, will it?  ;)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13313201
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 06 May 2011, 14:44:09
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Even Al-Qaeda now admit he was killled in the operation. Still, that won't stop the conspiracy theorists, will it?  ;)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13313201

who can be sure that Al-Qaeda  is not telling boll*x  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: Debs. on 08 May 2011, 09:12:52
With the release of video of Bin Laden; practicing and reviewing his 'performances' to camera.....


......is there now an out-takes and bloopers reel going to be released:

"Bin Laden in trampoline mishap in the compound garden"
"Green garden-chair collapses as Bin Laden sits"
"Bad-dancing at a stoning party"
"Paddling-pool funny tumble"
"Bin Laden fluffs his lines (again)"


....that kind of thing! ;D
Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: Sixstring on 08 May 2011, 09:48:20
IMHO he was interrogated well before he was disposed of, the US wouldn't have missed that opportunity, surely?

Hello Mr, Bin Laden...................bang,, bang, bang???


I don't think so for a moment.
Title: Re: Did the US really kill Bin Laden?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 09 May 2011, 11:19:40
seems like they really killed him the second time ;D ;D

http://tribune.com.pk/story/164930/iran-claims-osama-died-of-illness-long-before-us-raid/