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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Banjax on 25 April 2011, 07:13:42
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Still not up, looking forward to a wee CoD sesh and the PSN is still "undergoing maintenance" which is a euphemism for "taken down by hackers and we have no idea how" question is who - most speculation seems to centre on the "Anonymous" cyber terrorist group as they have previously attacked Sony, and did threaten the PSN a while ago although they deny it - my guess would be its a splinter cell of "anonymous" but they've won few friends with this action. :o
It does, however, serve as a reminder that the more we rely on the 'net the more vulnerable we are - if the playstation network can be brought down, we know banks systems can be targeted and its not too much of a leap to imagine a genuine disaster being triggered, right now a few million gamers are p'd off - no big deal - most of them might get a bit of fresh air instead, but its definitely a warning to us all :o
plus its all a bit "Tron" isn't it ;)
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Xbox Live working fine
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Xbox Live working fine
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I find XBL generally more robust, but you do pay for the privilege :o
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Sony, who I believe outsource all their internet services (and know they do some), couldn't manage a party in a brewery.
They lack the skill and experience that tthe likes of MS have acquired
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Underhand tactics from Bill Gates :P
Rarely use our consoles tbh, if I want to play online I'd rather use the pc.
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Playing single player games.
Missing some Killzone 3 multiplayer action though.
And haven't chatted to some PSN friends in days.
Just hope it is up for Uncharted triple points next weekend.
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Xbox Live working fine
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I find XBL generally more robust, but you do pay for the privilege :o
And completely useless for Killzone 3 or Uncharted 2
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Xbox Live working fine
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I find XBL generally more robust, but you do pay for the privilege :o
Sure do, £5.99 a month until i can find a better offer somewhere......!!
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Sony are now saying that the network's been hacked, potentially compromising names, addresses, d.o.b.s, passwords and credit card info of over 75 million users :o :(
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Sony are now saying that the network's been hacked, potentially compromising names, addresses, d.o.b.s, passwords and credit card info of over 75 million users :o :(
More fool you for letting someone as incompitent as Fony have such details ;)
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Look, can we please get it right. It is the playstation NOTWORK. Some people are still refering to it as the playstation network and this really annoying.
;D ;D ;D
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I'm surprised a company the size of Sony with all their resources were unable to prevent hackers getting in! :o I would have thought their security would have been second to none, so either it was crap or the hackers were exceptionally good.
I never understand why people with such exceptional "talents" use them for all the wrong reasons but then again, using them for criminal gain is that much more profitable. >:(
Soo glad I'm not an online console gamer! ::)
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I fail to understand why grown adults spend their lives playing online games, which mostly involve shooting as many "people" as possible. The games are imo all the same. They just change the graphics/ backgrounds and change the name - cyber macho 1, cyber macho 2 etc. etc....... ::)
Tin hat on. ;D
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I'm surprised a company the size of Sony with all their resources were unable to prevent hackers getting in! :o I would have thought their security would have been second to none, so either it was crap or the hackers were exceptionally good.
I never understand why people with such exceptional "talents" use them for all the wrong reasons but then again, using them for criminal gain is that much more profitable. >:(
Soo glad I'm not an online console gamer! ::)
Sony aren't interested in protecting its customers. Never were in recent years. They are interested in how to provide a set specification for a minimum cost price, and trade on their (supposedly) good name to charge premium prices.
The same applies to the gayStation Network. Build something that (almost) does the job for the lowest price possible, and run it on a shoestring. Security? Nah, too expensive.
Then, as a matter of greed, reduce the advertised functionality of the console, then try to use the law to stop people who do provide methods to re-enable that promised functionality... ...now I'm just the stupid kid from the local comprehensive, but even I can see that will enrage some very talented people. If they couldn't see that coming given the last couple of months happenenings, then they really do, as I suspect, have their heads so far up their own backsides.
All large companies put shareholders before customers, its just Fony are particularly bad, yet have a local following of sheep, who will only ever consider Fony, and not even look at other manufacturers (though they will claim they do). I will forward Martin Imber as a case point here :P. Same with BMW and with Apple - they will both also overcharge customers and under deliver, yet their customers wouldn't dare look elsewhere ;)
The company everybody loves to hate, Microsoft, understands security and how to provide a service, hence the XBL service remains the most stable. Possibly because they know they dont have a loyal following like Fony/BMW/Apple/etc, they treat their customers with the respect they deserve. Quite unusual for such a large organisation.
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I fail to understand why grown adults spend their lives playing online games, which mostly involve shooting as many "people" as possible. The games are imo all the same. They just change the graphics/ backgrounds and change the name - cyber macho 1, cyber macho 2 etc. etc....... ::)
Tin hat on. ;D
err.....it's fun? ;D ;D
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I fail to understand why grown adults spend their lives playing online games, which mostly involve shooting as many "people" as possible. The games are imo all the same. They just change the graphics/ backgrounds and change the name - cyber macho 1, cyber macho 2 etc. etc....... ::)
Tin hat on. ;D
Tongue-in-cheek comment from Computing magazine (BackBytes if that means anything to you)...
Meanwhile at Stanford University, subjects who were immersed in a 3D virtual forest and told to chop down a sequioa, later used less paper in their everyday lives.
"We found that virtual reality can change the way people behave," said Sun Yoo Ahn, whose doctoral dissertation outlines the findings. Of course, this applies to learning lessons about saving the planet, which is nice, and in no way applies to shooting people or driving very fast in virtual reality, which the games industry has been telling us for years has no effect on behaviour. So someone must be wrong.
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Small things/ small minds ? ::) :D
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OOOOOOO well ! If hackers can get into NASA and the Pentagon I assume that Sony would have been a easy.
Perhaps they will think twice in future when it comes to throwing thier weight around...especially in the court room.
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I fail to understand why grown adults spend their lives playing online games, which mostly involve shooting as many "people" as possible. The games are imo all the same. They just change the graphics/ backgrounds and change the name - cyber macho 1, cyber macho 2 etc. etc....... ::)
Tin hat on. ;D
Tongue-in-cheek comment from Computing magazine (BackBytes if that means anything to you)...
Meanwhile at Stanford University, subjects who were immersed in a 3D virtual forest and told to chop down a sequioa, later used less paper in their everyday lives.
"We found that virtual reality can change the way people behave," said Sun Yoo Ahn, whose doctoral dissertation outlines the findings. Of course, this applies to learning lessons about saving the planet, which is nice, and in no way applies to shooting people or driving very fast in virtual reality, which the games industry has been telling us for years has no effect on behaviour. So someone must be wrong.
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if that was the case, if theres 100 million or so online gamers, and there isnt a mad spree of game related violence it must be utterly safe then :y
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I'm surprised a company the size of Sony with all their resources were unable to prevent hackers getting in! :o I would have thought their security would have been second to none, so either it was crap or the hackers were exceptionally good.
I never understand why people with such exceptional "talents" use them for all the wrong reasons but then again, using them for criminal gain is that much more profitable. >:(
Soo glad I'm not an online console gamer! ::)
Sony aren't interested in protecting its customers. Never were in recent years. They are interested in how to provide a set specification for a minimum cost price, and trade on their (supposedly) good name to charge premium prices.
The same applies to the gayStation Network. Build something that (almost) does the job for the lowest price possible, and run it on a shoestring. Security? Nah, too expensive.
Then, as a matter of greed, reduce the advertised functionality of the console, then try to use the law to stop people who do provide methods to re-enable that promised functionality... ...now I'm just the stupid kid from the local comprehensive, but even I can see that will enrage some very talented people. If they couldn't see that coming given the last couple of months happenenings, then they really do, as I suspect, have their heads so far up their own backsides.
All large companies put shareholders before customers, its just Fony are particularly bad, yet have a local following of sheep, who will only ever consider Fony, and not even look at other manufacturers (though they will claim they do). I will forward Martin Imber as a case point here :P. Same with BMW and with Apple - they will both also overcharge customers and under deliver, yet their customers wouldn't dare look elsewhere ;)
The company everybody loves to hate, Microsoft, understands security and how to provide a service, hence the XBL service remains the most stable. Possibly because they know they dont have a loyal following like Fony/BMW/Apple/etc, they treat their customers with the respect they deserve. Quite unusual for such a large organisation.
Err we have quite a bit of Pioneer stuff here, and Relisys portable TV, PVRs from Humax among others, Pace have joined my shit list for lack of support. (We only have 2 TVs in use)
Console, TV, video camera, car MD player and a pile of old Beta VCRs does not a fanboy make.
And no I would not buy a Sony PVR they are rubbish, nor a DSLR as Nikon make the best lenses.
The Sony stuff I have bought was all among top of class and not due to brand, I am not a fanboy.
W series Sony LCD TVs got rave reviews so I got one
The old Trinitron IDTVs had a superb picture and were good VFM so I bought one.
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I fail to understand why grown adults spend their lives playing online games, which mostly involve shooting as many "people" as possible. The games are imo all the same. They just change the graphics/ backgrounds and change the name - cyber macho 1, cyber macho 2 etc. etc....... ::)
Tin hat on. ;D
err.....it's fun? ;D ;D
A lot of fun, I have invested a lot of time in two multiplayers one a TPS and the other a FPS.
Just really good fun and isn't gaming about enjoying yourself?
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I fail to understand why grown adults spend their lives playing online games, which mostly involve shooting as many "people" as possible. The games are imo all the same. They just change the graphics/ backgrounds and change the name - cyber macho 1, cyber macho 2 etc. etc....... ::)
Tin hat on. ;D
Tongue-in-cheek comment from Computing magazine (BackBytes if that means anything to you)...
Meanwhile at Stanford University, subjects who were immersed in a 3D virtual forest and told to chop down a sequioa, later used less paper in their everyday lives.
"We found that virtual reality can change the way people behave," said Sun Yoo Ahn, whose doctoral dissertation outlines the findings. Of course, this applies to learning lessons about saving the planet, which is nice, and in no way applies to shooting people or driving very fast in virtual reality, which the games industry has been telling us for years has no effect on behaviour. So someone must be wrong.
;)
if that was the case, if theres 100 million or so online gamers, and there isnt a mad spree of game related violence it must be utterly safe then :y
Hmm does it have an effect?
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Well I do not roll up stairs, I don't run about leaping off ledges and kicking people off them trying to pull me off. Nor do I point at Propane bottles and say boom.
But then I am not getting into gun fights with various fictional characters and skeletons based on historic figures such as Gengis Khan and Sir Francis Drake.
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Nor do I get into gun fights on a hostile planet populated by a militaristic society with cockney accents, and Ray Winstone as head of military.
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However I did think that ISA stood for Interplanetary Strategic Alliance. ;D
Currently I am playing an oldish African set free roaming first person game and your satnav can find diamonds.
A few days ago some light reflected off the cars dash and I thought "diamond briefcase" ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Sony aren't interested in protecting its customers. Never were in recent years.....
Agreed. I used to like some Phony products. I wouldn't touch anything they make with a barge pole these days.
They used to make some quality stuff. Some of their audio and video gear used to be very nicely made.
You obviously had to avoid the products that try to lock you into their overpriced, proprietary form factors for which they would later have you over a barrel - mini disc and those cr@p memory sticks being two examples.
I had one of their rubbish car stereos with the incessant beeping if you didn't remove the face plate - except that the faceplate wasn't rigid enough to stop the LCD display getting mullered when you removed it. Their response? You've dropped it. >:(
The current Sony CRT TV has done almost 10 years with "only" one repair, but it won't be replaced from their product range.
Oh, and don't get me started on the Vaio company laptop that I inherited. :-X
Kevin
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Sony aren't interested in protecting its customers. Never were in recent years.....
Agreed. I used to like some Phony products. I wouldn't touch anything they make with a barge pole these days.
They used to make some quality stuff. Some of their audio and video gear used to be very nicely made.
You obviously had to avoid the products that try to lock you into their overpriced, proprietary form factors for which they would later have you over a barrel - mini disc and those cr@p memory sticks being two examples.
I had one of their rubbish car stereos with the incessant beeping if you didn't remove the face plate - except that the faceplate wasn't rigid enough to stop the LCD display getting mullered when you removed it. Their response? You've dropped it. >:(
The current Sony CRT TV has done almost 10 years with "only" one repair, but it won't be replaced from their product range.
Oh, and don't get me started on the Vaio company laptop that I inherited. :-X
Kevin
I have noticed some of the quality drop, however Minidisc I think was fantastic, and worldwide was surprisingly popular, lots of makes as well (Pioneer Sharp Panasonic). I got MD for the car as my tapes were useless and it was easy to get LPs on to them. My car MD player is pretty old (first had it in a Carlton) and is better build quality than the flimsy CD changer (I bought second hand).
Part of the problem with Sony is chasing the mass market. So if it is cheap and has a Sony badge it will be no better than anything else at that price point.
However when it comes to buying things I will consider a large number of makes and pick the most suitable for US.
There are market segments they were leaders in and ones they still are.
If I wanted a PMP there are a few makes I would want, but sound quality would be top - I have noticed that the Walkmans still work here.
TVs cheap - no thanks - I dislike cheap TVs, hence when we bought one the only ones I actually liked most I could not afford (Pioneer used to do lovely plasmas - actually one of the few Plasmas I thought looked good). Saw lots of LCDs running off HDMI split feeds, one shop had 4 TVs and 2 were bad 2 good, same make, same size, different pices and resolutions.
In the end the only TVs I could afford and what we liked at a largish size, was what we bought a W series Sony.
Now I am getting a dilemma.
My AV receiver is pretty old 12 years approx, but is suffering from a right front dropping out. Fixed by short blast of high volume.
I will try a resolder first but is it worth repairing?
Can I find a new one I like which I could afford (most look tacky now)?
It was better than both its predecessor and its replacement.
To be honest I can't afford premium stuff so will come down to auditioning the middle market kit again.
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Spoken like a true fanboy;) - overcoming the denial is the first step ;D
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I could never see the point of Minidisk. It had a short window between inception and the advent of cheap car CD head units, writeable CDs, flash based mp3 players and PC storage of music to displace cassette and it didn't manage it.
Sound quality was only somewhere between cassette and CD (not good enough for Hi-Fi listening), you still had the inconvenience of one album to each piece of media and you still had to copy every CD to play it in the car / walkman/ wherever (unless you were mad enough to buy prerecorded MDs).
Most people either soldiered on with cassette or (factory head unit owners disregard the following) made copies of CDs to listen to in the car, etc.
As usual, Sony tried to lock-in everyone to using their format until realising too late that they would have to license it to other manufacturers.
Kevin
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I could never see the point of Minidisk. It had a short window between inception and the advent of cheap car CD head units, writeable CDs, flash based mp3 players and PC storage of music to displace cassette and it didn't manage it.
Sound quality was only somewhere between cassette and CD (not good enough for Hi-Fi listening), you still had the inconvenience of one album to each piece of media and you still had to copy every CD to play it in the car / walkman/ wherever (unless you were mad enough to buy prerecorded MDs).
Most people either soldiered on with cassette or (factory head unit owners disregard the following) made copies of CDs to listen to in the car, etc.
As usual, Sony tried to lock-in everyone to using their format until realising too late that they would have to license it to other manufacturers.
Kevin
I bought a cheap home deck as my cassette deck was knackered.
Also pre home PC as well.
If you have one you like it otherwise you generally do not appreciate it.
Sound quality.
Better than most mp3s I would say, through decent kit you can pick up the compression, but it sounds better than cassette and not too far from a cheap CD.
Locking in?
I thought there were a few makers
Actually what stifled sales was very simple.
No PC transfer back to PC for home made recordings.
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Spoken like a true fanboy;) - overcoming the denial is the first step ;D
Mind you - you could be classed as a fanboy sometimes ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Pre recorded MDs - silly idea, cost more than a CD and home made recordings with top end decks sounded better.
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No PC transfer back to PC for home made recordings.
True. That was particularly limiting.
.. a victim, then, of crippleware no doubt mandated to appease the RIAA. ;)
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No PC transfer back to PC for home made recordings.
True. That was particularly limiting.
.. a victim, then, of crippleware no doubt mandated to appease the RIAA. ;)
Yes it was pressure from record companies even though it was pre Sony buying one. >:( >:( :( :(
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No PC transfer back to PC for home made recordings.
True. That was particularly limiting.
.. a victim, then, of crippleware no doubt mandated to appease the RIAA. ;)
Apart from their total disregard of their loyal fanboys customers, he fact Sony have music and film interests was always going to mean there naff products were knobbled.
Minidisc, like other Fony propreitry junk, was no better than the competition, often worse, and locked those stupid enough to buy it into a whole heap of misery.
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No PC transfer back to PC for home made recordings.
True. That was particularly limiting.
.. a victim, then, of crippleware no doubt mandated to appease the RIAA. ;)
Apart from their total disregard of their loyal fanboys customers, he fact Sony have music and film interests was always going to mean there naff products were knobbled.
Minidisc, like other Fony propreitry junk, was no better than the competition, often worse, and locked those stupid enough to buy it into a whole heap of misery.
So what was better than it for what it did?
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No PC transfer back to PC for home made recordings.
True. That was particularly limiting.
.. a victim, then, of crippleware no doubt mandated to appease the RIAA. ;)
Apart from their total disregard of their loyal fanboys customers, he fact Sony have music and film interests was always going to mean there naff products were knobbled.
Minidisc, like other Fony propreitry junk, was no better than the competition, often worse, and locked those stupid enough to buy it into a whole heap of misery.
So what was better than it for what it did?
The bog standard CD/CDR!!
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:P Grown men playing with kid`s toy games! ::)
;D ;D ;D
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No PC transfer back to PC for home made recordings.
True. That was particularly limiting.
.. a victim, then, of crippleware no doubt mandated to appease the RIAA. ;)
Apart from their total disregard of their loyal fanboys customers, he fact Sony have music and film interests was always going to mean there naff products were knobbled.
Minidisc, like other Fony propreitry junk, was no better than the competition, often worse, and locked those stupid enough to buy it into a whole heap of misery.
So what was better than it for what it did?
The bog standard CD/CDR!!
OK copy loads of albums without a PC.
I have a box with about 50 in all with albums recorded on to them.
In car record players were not very practical.
Also so recrding via a microphone they were excellent.
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:P Grown men playing with kid`s toy games! ::)
;D ;D ;D
Lots are rated 18
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OK copy loads of albums without a PC.
I have a box with about 50 in all with albums recorded on to them.
In car record players were not very practical.
Also so recrding via a microphone they were excellent.
I think the point is, not long after MD launched, you could do all the above with your PC - so why lock yourself into using another (crippled) format and buy more hardware to do what you could already do with a box you already have?
Kevin
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OK copy loads of albums without a PC.
I have a box with about 50 in all with albums recorded on to them.
In car record players were not very practical.
Also so recrding via a microphone they were excellent.
I think the point is, not long after MD launched, you could do all the above with your PC - so why lock yourself into using another (crippled) format and buy more hardware to do what you could already do with a box you already have?
Kevin
Only got a home PC about 9 years ago.
Had MD in the car more like 11 years, and as a home deck around 12.
And it is all working still.
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OK copy loads of albums without a PC.
I have a box with about 50 in all with albums recorded on to them.
In car record players were not very practical.
Also so recrding via a microphone they were excellent.
I think the point is, not long after MD launched, you could do all the above with your PC - so why lock yourself into using another (crippled) format and buy more hardware to do what you could already do with a box you already have?
Kevin
Precisely.
But I fear you're wasting your breath, you will have more luck trying to convince tunnie that Android is better than iPhone.
Bloody fanboys, eh ;D
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OK copy loads of albums without a PC.
I have a box with about 50 in all with albums recorded on to them.
In car record players were not very practical.
Also so recrding via a microphone they were excellent.
I think the point is, not long after MD launched, you could do all the above with your PC - so why lock yourself into using another (crippled) format and buy more hardware to do what you could already do with a box you already have?
Kevin
Precisely.
But I fear you're wasting your breath, you will have more luck trying to convince tunnie that Android is better than iPhone.
Bloody fanboys, eh ;D
Perhaps.. But I was being a bit naive about using my PC to copy and store music.. It would, of course, have been knackered by one of Phony's rootkit-infected CDs and therefore about as much use as.. er.. a Minidisk? ::) ;)
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OK copy loads of albums without a PC.
I have a box with about 50 in all with albums recorded on to them.
In car record players were not very practical.
Also so recrding via a microphone they were excellent.
I think the point is, not long after MD launched, you could do all the above with your PC - so why lock yourself into using another (crippled) format and buy more hardware to do what you could already do with a box you already have?
Kevin
Precisely.
But I fear you're wasting your breath, you will have more luck trying to convince tunnie that Android is better than iPhone.
Bloody fanboys, eh ;D
For me it was the right tool for the job. Cassette deck in the Carlton was not great and my home tape deck was knackered.
Aiwa cassette decks (just about best non Nakamichi) were still over £100 at the time, and I do not like cheap stuff.
Finding a cheap MD recorder was just too tempting.
I did use the home deck just to do records and radio for a while.
As said before late to the world of home PCs, used them at work and that was enough.
I do have to say have you actually used MD?
Small, easy to handle, sealed so they do not get dirty, easy to shove in slot without looking, instant track access.
Isn't Android better than IOS?
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OK copy loads of albums without a PC.
I have a box with about 50 in all with albums recorded on to them.
In car record players were not very practical.
Also so recrding via a microphone they were excellent.
I think the point is, not long after MD launched, you could do all the above with your PC - so why lock yourself into using another (crippled) format and buy more hardware to do what you could already do with a box you already have?
Kevin
Precisely.
But I fear you're wasting your breath, you will have more luck trying to convince tunnie that Android is better than iPhone.
Bloody fanboys, eh ;D
Perhaps.. But I was being a bit naive about using my PC to copy and store music.. It would, of course, have been knackered by one of Phony's rootkit-infected CDs and therefore about as much use as.. er.. a Minidisk? ::) ;)
Cheers Kevin, my keyboard and screen have just enjoyed a mouthful of coffee ;D :y
You did make I larf!
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OK copy loads of albums without a PC.
I have a box with about 50 in all with albums recorded on to them.
In car record players were not very practical.
Also so recrding via a microphone they were excellent.
I think the point is, not long after MD launched, you could do all the above with your PC - so why lock yourself into using another (crippled) format and buy more hardware to do what you could already do with a box you already have?
Kevin
Precisely.
But I fear you're wasting your breath, you will have more luck trying to convince tunnie that Android is better than iPhone.
Bloody fanboys, eh ;D
Perhaps.. But I was being a bit naive about using my PC to copy and store music.. It would, of course, have been knackered by one of Phony's rootkit-infected CDs and therefore about as much use as.. er.. a Minidisk? ::) ;)
I don't trust ANY CD without the CD-Digital Audio logo all of the big record companies are out to install crap!
Mind you I would not have wanted to import any of Columbia musics rather poor selection. ;D ;D
I think it was something like Celine Dion or other piffle like that!
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I don't trust ANY CD without the CD-Digital Audio logo all of the big record companies are out to install crap!
I thought the rookit-infected ones did? Wasn't that what all the fuss was about?
Mind you I would not have wanted to import any of Columbia musics rather poor selection. ;D ;D
I think it was something like Celine Dion or other piffle like that!
PMSL. I belong to a Hi-Fi forum and one of the rules in their AUP states no Celine Dion. ;D
Kevin
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I don't trust ANY CD without the CD-Digital Audio logo all of the big record companies are out to install crap!
I thought the rookit-infected ones did? Wasn't that what all the fuss was about?
Mind you I would not have wanted to import any of Columbia musics rather poor selection. ;D ;D
I think it was something like Celine Dion or other piffle like that!
PMSL. I belong to a Hi-Fi forum and one of the rules in their AUP states no Celine Dion. ;D
Kevin
Have a look very few CDs now have the logo as they have autostart to TRY to prevent ripping.
First CD I ever ripped I ripped simply because the DVD player I used as a CD player could only handle CD-DA and not the CD ROM shite now prevalent.
My current DVD player can handle anything not high def - CD DA, MP3 CD, DVD Video, DVD Audio, SA-CD.
Anything HiDef uses the console.
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I do have to say have you actually used MD?
Yes. What a PITA it was too. Nowhere to play the little tinkers.
I've had CD Changers in every car I've owned since getting my GTE back in 1992, and obviously CD Players in my home since about 1989. CDRs were affordable by around '94 ish. Why would I (or anyone else) want to buy into a proprietry, incompatible, expensive, locked system, when a cheaper, clearly defined, common technology did the job better? And its still partly Sony, for those who must worship Mr Idei
Isn't Android better than IOS?
Tunnie wouldn't agree, because he is an Apple fanboy
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I do have to say have you actually used MD?
Yes. What a PITA it was too. Nowhere to play the little tinkers.
I've had CD Changers in every car I've owned since getting my GTE back in 1992, and obviously CD Players in my home since about 1989. CDRs were affordable by around '94 ish. Why would I (or anyone else) want to buy into a proprietry, incompatible, expensive, locked system, when a cheaper, clearly defined, common technology did the job better? And its still partly Sony, for those who must worship Mr Idei
Isn't Android better than IOS?
Tunnie wouldn't agree, because he is an Apple fanboy
I had my first CD player mid 1980s, but it was not very good, replaced with DVD in late 1990s.
Bought MD not long after the DVD as it was cheap.
CD-R decks were expensive and I was still on cassette in cars.
I bought MD as it fitted the need I had of it, not because of any brands.
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Minidisc, like other Fony propreitry junk, was no better than the competition, often worse, and locked those stupid enough to buy it into a whole heap of misery.
On the subject of moribund formats:
I still have my Elcaset recorder/player (the huge 'Technics RS 7500').....maybe it`ll be retro enough on-day; to be valuable. ::)
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Bought MD not long after the DVD as it was cheap.
CD-R decks were expensive and I was still on cassette in cars.
But you still had to replace the car stereos to play MD, so surely it would have been better to buy CD Players for the car. You could have still bought Fony, seeing as you worship them, and could still ave had all the annoying bleeps
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Minidisc, like other Fony propreitry junk, was no better than the competition, often worse, and locked those stupid enough to buy it into a whole heap of misery.
On the subject of moribund formats:
I still have my Elcaset recorder/player (the huge 'Technics RS 7500').....maybe it`ll be retro enough on-day; to be valuable. ::)
They are supposed to sound really good.
As to valuable some Beta VCRs fetch over £500 S/H, seen a Sanyo HiFi go for £500
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Minidisc, like other Fony propreitry junk, was no better than the competition, often worse, and locked those stupid enough to buy it into a whole heap of misery.
On the subject of moribund formats:
I still have my Elcaset recorder/player (the huge 'Technics RS 7500').....maybe it`ll be retro enough on-day; to be valuable. ::)
They are supposed to sound really good.
As to valuable some Beta VCRs fetch over £500 S/H, seen a Sanyo HiFi go for £500
You really don't see a lot of elcaset machines, so I'm sure they would be interesting to collectors.
I was reminded how good tape could be a few months back. Walked into a room at a hi-fi show and sat and listened for a while to a system that sounded absolutely sublime. Then realised the source was a little Nagra reel-to-reel tape deck. :o
Kevin
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Minidisc, like other Fony propreitry junk, was no better than the competition, often worse, and locked those stupid enough to buy it into a whole heap of misery.
On the subject of moribund formats:
I still have my Elcaset recorder/player (the huge 'Technics RS 7500').....maybe it`ll be retro enough on-day; to be valuable. ::)
They are supposed to sound really good.
As to valuable some Beta VCRs fetch over £500 S/H, seen a Sanyo HiFi go for £500
You really don't see a lot of elcaset machines, so I'm sure they would be interesting to collectors.
I was reminded how good tape could be a few months back. Walked into a room at a hi-fi show and sat and listened for a while to a system that sounded absolutely sublime. Then realised the source was a little Nagra reel-to-reel tape deck. :o
Kevin
Maybe Ebay beckons then, Kevin....... :y
The Sony FeCr loaded Elcasets did have singularly transparent and rounded 'sound'; the three heads enabled direct/off-tape comparisons which were recorded without any of the artefacts of using Mr. Dolby`s compression technologies (just the headroom and low-crosstalk afforded by the wider format`s head/track separation with the machine having a mahoosive 1500 gram motor-flywheel for pitch/speed consistency).
.....as so-often before with 'format wars' : mass-popularity won out over engineering innovation! ;)
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Minidisc, like other Fony propreitry junk, was no better than the competition, often worse, and locked those stupid enough to buy it into a whole heap of misery.
On the subject of moribund formats:
I still have my Elcaset recorder/player (the huge 'Technics RS 7500').....maybe it`ll be retro enough on-day; to be valuable. ::)
They are supposed to sound really good.
As to valuable some Beta VCRs fetch over £500 S/H, seen a Sanyo HiFi go for £500
You really don't see a lot of elcaset machines, so I'm sure they would be interesting to collectors.
I was reminded how good tape could be a few months back. Walked into a room at a hi-fi show and sat and listened for a while to a system that sounded absolutely sublime. Then realised the source was a little Nagra reel-to-reel tape deck. :o
Kevin
Maybe Ebay beckons then, Kevin....... :y
The Sony FeCr loaded Elcasets did have singularly transparent and rounded 'sound'; the three heads enabled direct/off-tape comparisons which were recorded without any of the artefacts of using Mr. Dolby`s compression technologies (just the headroom and low-crosstalk afforded by the wider format`s head/track separation with the machine having a mahoosive 1500 gram motor-flywheel for pitch/speed consistency).
.....as so-often before with 'format wars' : mass-popularity won out over engineering innovation! ;)
That is how the Beta fans feel.
And I have one of the few fully working Sanyo Beta HiFi decks - I used to use it as an audio recorder as well.
80dB dynamic range :y
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-13256817
the implications of this for the future of the 'net are beginning to dawn - perhaps we'll see the whole system brought down........luckily i dont really rely on it but most businesses are heavily tied in - especially banks who are determined to get rid of expensive high street branches.
the only way to secure your details online is to not go online :(
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CDRs were affordable by around '94 ish.
£15 a pop back in 95 for a 74 min CD-R, and no such thing as buffer underrun, so when the screensaver kicked in halfway through that dizzy 2x burn speed that was another £15 down the drain.
I was reminded how good tape could be a few months back. Walked into a room at a hi-fi show and sat and listened for a while to a system that sounded absolutely sublime. Then realised the source was a little Nagra reel-to-reel tape deck. :o
Kevin
Still have my old Tascam Portastudio here in daily use (well, the occasional weekend use now when we have a jam session), there's something about the sound that CD (or any digital medium) simply cannot produce and probably never will.
Admin Edit: Sentence deletion, hopefully for obvious reasons ;D
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the only way to secure your details online is to not go online :(
As most people in security would tell you; the only secure system is one that's not plugged in to anything, locked in a safe, and buried in the ground encased in concrete.
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the only way to secure your details online is to not go online :(
As most people in security would tell you; the only secure system is one that's not plugged in to anything, locked in a safe, and buried in the ground encased in concrete.
.. and the next secure one is one that's connected but competently looked-after, as I'd hope most banks are.
Somewhere after that, it seems, comes Playstation Network. ;)
It is back up yet? If I were on it I'd be itching to get online... so I could unsub myself. ;)
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the only way to secure your details online is to not go online :(
As most people in security would tell you; the only secure system is one that's not plugged in to anything, locked in a safe, and buried in the ground encased in concrete.
.. and the next secure one is one that's connected but competently looked-after, as I'd hope most banks are.
Somewhere after that, it seems, comes Playstation Network. ;)
It is back up yet? If I were on it I'd be itching to get online... so I could unsub myself. ;)
I think everything on the internet comes between banks and the PSN ;D
[edit] With the possible exception of the Lush cosmetics website; they not only 'lost' everyone's names & addresses but credit card numbers and so on in the middle of last year. Whoops.
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the only way to secure your details online is to not go online :(
As most people in security would tell you; the only secure system is one that's not plugged in to anything, locked in a safe, and buried in the ground encased in concrete.
.. and the next secure one is one that's connected but competently looked-after, as I'd hope most banks are.
Somewhere after that, it seems, comes Playstation Network. ;)
It is back up yet? If I were on it I'd be itching to get online... so I could unsub myself. ;)
not unless it went up today, to be fair to Sony I think it was malicious hackers determined to bring them down as they didnt like Sony forcing users to use only their OS, not many systems could withstand a determined full on expert assault, maybe it'll be a good thing for online security in the future....in the meantime i'll just shoot americans in the face on 360 :o
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I do have to say have you actually used MD?
Yes. What a PITA it was too. Nowhere to play the little tinkers.
I've had CD Changers in every car I've owned since getting my GTE back in 1992, and obviously CD Players in my home since about 1989. CDRs were affordable by around '94 ish. Why would I (or anyone else) want to buy into a proprietry, incompatible, expensive, locked system, when a cheaper, clearly defined, common technology did the job better? And its still partly Sony, for those who must worship Mr Idei
Isn't Android better than IOS?
Tunnie wouldn't agree, because he is an Apple fanboy
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I have access to 100's of phones, use them on a daily basis, so not just going on "what my mate said in the pub" I do actually use them in anger.
iOS wins hands down, simple things like native proxy support are still lacking in Android (without using custom ROM)
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[edit] With the possible exception of the Lush cosmetics website; they not only 'lost' everyone's names & addresses but credit card numbers and so on in the middle of last year. Whoops.
Just deserts in that case. It's only soap after all. ::) Why they need a web site is beyond me. ;D
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[edit] With the possible exception of the Lush cosmetics website; they not only 'lost' everyone's names & addresses but credit card numbers and so on in the middle of last year. Whoops.
Just deserts in that case. It's only soap after all. ::) Why they need a web site is beyond me. ;D
So that mugs like me can buy presents for their (then) girlfriends? :-[ ;D :-/
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[edit] With the possible exception of the Lush cosmetics website; they not only 'lost' everyone's names & addresses but credit card numbers and so on in the middle of last year. Whoops.
Just deserts in that case. It's only soap after all. ::) Why they need a web site is beyond me. ;D
So that mugs like me can buy presents for their (then) girlfriends? :-[ ;D :-/
Good point, well presented. :y
Just hearing their name makes me want to sneeze, though, and, as for walking past one of their shops...
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They are quite, quite overpowering.. a bit like the perfume shops in airport duty free (which really need to come with free breathing apparatus)
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Back up and running - been on Killzone 3 :y :y
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Back up and running - been on Killzone 3 :y :y
luckily, the excellent Portal 2 has been keeping me entertained on the eggbox while Sony gets its act together ;)
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finally back on, and im guessing 1000's will be online tonight and most of them on COD! :y
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Back up and running - been on Killzone 3 :y :y
luckily, the excellent Portal 2 has been keeping me entertained on the eggbox while Sony gets its act together ;)
Is that the COOP restricted version?
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Back up and running - been on Killzone 3 :y :y
luckily, the excellent Portal 2 has been keeping me entertained on the eggbox while Sony gets its act together ;)
Is that the COOP restricted version?
playing through single player - havent even looked at coop yet :o
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Back up and running - been on Killzone 3 :y :y
luckily, the excellent Portal 2 has been keeping me entertained on the eggbox while Sony gets its act together ;)
Is that the COOP restricted version?
playing through single player - havent even looked at coop yet :o
No PC Co-op on yours
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Back up and running - been on Killzone 3 :y :y
luckily, the excellent Portal 2 has been keeping me entertained on the eggbox while Sony gets its act together ;)
Is that the COOP restricted version?
playing through single player - havent even looked at coop yet :o
No PC Co-op on yours
yeah, might try taking it back for PS3 version.....altho tbh it makes no difference to what you see and do, plus Sony online isn't exactly flavour of the month and I'll bet thats not the end of the attacks :o
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Back up and running - been on Killzone 3 :y :y
luckily, the excellent Portal 2 has been keeping me entertained on the eggbox while Sony gets its act together ;)
Is that the COOP restricted version?
playing through single player - havent even looked at coop yet :o
No PC Co-op on yours
yeah, might try taking it back for PS3 version.....altho tbh it makes no difference to what you see and do, plus Sony online isn't exactly flavour of the month and I'll bet thats not the end of the attacks :o
It uses Steam for coop.
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I'll bet thats not the end of the attacks :o
Too right, given the way they are trying to upset everybody, hackers and loyal users alike, and given their well known (lack of) emphasis on IT security.