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Title: Citroen C3 EPBA.....
Post by: Debs. on 19 May 2011, 13:29:36
 :oEPBA: "Emergency Passenger-Brake Assist".......lets have pedals in the back too and have a braking lottery! ;D

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13447395
Title: Re: Citroen C3 EPBA.....
Post by: Kevin Wood on 19 May 2011, 13:36:29
What a bodge. :o

If it wasn't a serious problem previously it will be a popular party-trick with passengers now the cat's out of the bag. ;D

<mental note to give Citroens an even wider berth than previously> ;D

Kevin
Title: Re: Citroen C3 EPBA.....
Post by: aaronjb on 19 May 2011, 13:41:20
Reminds me of my first car - Austin Allegro with Instructor controls on the passenger side (previously owned by my Granddad who was a driving instructor for many, many years)..

Yes, passengers regularly found it hilarious to perform an emergency stop..
Title: Re: Citroen C3 EPBA.....
Post by: Jimbob on 19 May 2011, 13:41:29
Father in law has one....dunno whether to play or tell him  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Citroen C3 EPBA.....
Post by: Varche on 19 May 2011, 13:42:13
Just what is needed for the nervous mother in law!
Title: Re: Citroen C3 EPBA.....
Post by: Lazydocker on 19 May 2011, 13:45:10
I wonder if I can do it in SWMBO's Panda because I can feel something moving under my feet when she brakes :-/

Would be great fun on a private road but the thought of that happening driving down the motorway is terrifying :o :o I suppose the only good thing is that the brake lights do illuminate
Title: Re: Citroen C3 EPBA.....
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 19 May 2011, 13:51:23
Quite a few smaller cars have that although they are a sod to get at!

The C3 looks easy to access.
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 19 May 2011, 16:52:59
my wife would like it ;D

very useful in some cases..
Title: Re: Citroen C3 EPBA.....
Post by: LJay on 19 May 2011, 18:15:17
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Father in law has one....dunno whether to play or tell him  ;D ;D ;D

Might ask him if I can borrow it!  [smiley=evil.gif]

Seriously though as a regular passenger in Jimbobs car I can see the appeal of passenger braking! :P
Title: Re: Citroen C3 EPBA.....
Post by: STMO123 on 19 May 2011, 20:01:34
It's on watchdog now.
Title: Re: Citroen C3 EPBA.....
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 19 May 2011, 21:25:52
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Father in law has one....dunno whether to play or tell him  ;D ;D ;D

Might ask him if I can borrow it!  [smiley=evil.gif]

Seriously though as a regular passenger in Jimbobs car I can see the appeal of passenger braking! :P

as I estimate ;D
Title: Re: Citroen C3 EPBA.....
Post by: LJay on 19 May 2011, 21:57:32
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Father in law has one....dunno whether to play or tell him  ;D ;D ;D

Might ask him if I can borrow it!  [smiley=evil.gif]

Seriously though as a regular passenger in Jimbobs car I can see the appeal of passenger braking! :P

as I estimate ;D

Could do with my own steering wheel too....keep my nails out of the leather seats! ;)
Title: Re: Citroen C3 EPBA.....
Post by: Andy B on 19 May 2011, 22:01:17
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Father in law has one....dunno whether to play or tell him  ;D ;D ;D

Might ask him if I can borrow it!  [smiley=evil.gif]

Seriously though as a regular passenger in Jimbobs car I can see the appeal of passenger braking! :P

as I estimate ;D

Could do with my own steering wheel too....keep my nails out of the leather seats! ;)

like this?  ;D ;D ;D

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHbyFFbJ21g[/media]
Title: Re: Citroen C3 EPBA.....
Post by: LJay on 19 May 2011, 22:09:04
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Father in law has one....dunno whether to play or tell him  ;D ;D ;D

Might ask him if I can borrow it!  [smiley=evil.gif]

Seriously though as a regular passenger in Jimbobs car I can see the appeal of passenger braking! :P

as I estimate ;D

Could do with my own steering wheel too....keep my nails out of the leather seats! ;)

like this?  ;D ;D ;D

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHbyFFbJ21g[/media]

Definately like that, they made me howl! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Citroen C3 EPBA.....
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 19 May 2011, 22:56:48
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Father in law has one....dunno whether to play or tell him  ;D ;D ;D

Might ask him if I can borrow it!  [smiley=evil.gif]

Seriously though as a regular passenger in Jimbobs car I can see the appeal of passenger braking! :P

as I estimate ;D

Could do with my own steering wheel too....keep my nails out of the leather seats! ;)

 ;D ;D ;D I can understand you.. I'm similiar if I'm on the passenger side.. :-X
Title: Re: Citroen C3 EPBA.....
Post by: Amigo on 19 May 2011, 23:10:17
Heard this on the radio but don't get it. How can pressing on a cable lock the brakes...& why buy such an uninspired car in the first place? ::)
Title: Re: Citroen C3 EPBA.....
Post by: Kevin Wood on 20 May 2011, 09:56:24
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Heard this on the radio but don't get it. How can pressing on a cable lock the brakes...

It's not a cable. They have effectively left the brake pedal pivot and master cylinder on the left hand side, and run a bar across to the right hand side to connect it to the pedal.

So, you effectively have a stub of brake pedal on the left hand side where the pedal would have been mounted, covered only by a bit of felt. If you know where to press you can stand on the brakes from the passenger side. :o

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& why buy such an uninspired car in the first place? ::)

'Cos they're cheap, I guess. Nothing else remotely attractive about them IMHO. :-/

Kevin
Title: Re: Citroen C3 EPBA.....
Post by: Andy B on 20 May 2011, 11:47:58
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... They have effectively left the brake pedal pivot and master cylinder on the left hand side, and run a bar across to the right hand side to connect it to the pedal. .....

A few cars that I know of are the same-ish. Peugeot 206/207 has the brake switch still above the passenger's feet. So when you see one that has its brake lights on all the time it's cos a passenger has kicked the brke switch off.
MkIII  FWD Escorts are the same, but Ford had the sense to leave the torsion bar on the engine side of the bulkhead when they made them right hand drive.
Title: Re: Citroen C3 EPBA.....
Post by: Kevin Wood on 20 May 2011, 11:52:07
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... They have effectively left the brake pedal pivot and master cylinder on the left hand side, and run a bar across to the right hand side to connect it to the pedal. .....

A few cars that I know of are the same-ish. Peugeot 206/207 has the brake switch still above the passenger's feet. So when you see one that has its brake lights on all the time it's cos a passenger has kicked the brke switch off.
MkIII  FWD Escorts are the same, but Ford had the sense to leave the torsion bar on the engine side of the bulkhead when they made them right hand drive.

Exactly. It's not an uncommon practice now cars are packed together so tightly that space under the bonnet is precious. You can also make a whole host of parts the same for LHD and RHD vehicles (brake lines, for example).

Not having protected the mechanism from interference from the passenger side was a big mistake cost-cutting measure too far, though. ;D

Kevin
Title: Re: Citroen C3 EPBA.....
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 20 May 2011, 12:48:43
sometimes can be a life saving mistake if the driver is a newbie :)
Title: Re: Citroen C3 EPBA.....
Post by: Jimbob on 23 May 2011, 14:14:14
We tried this on the father in law's C3 picasso last night, and it wasnt easy, but we could recreate the issue.

We got best results when your toes were effectively on the upstroke, seemed to be rotating a pipe.

only did it stationary, not on the move, so didnt get to feel the full effect.