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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: feeutfo on 10 June 2011, 00:09:39
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Mrs Wood first for lovely Macaroni cheese... Numnyumnyumnyum. 4cheese in fact. Lovely thought, thank you. :-*
...and to Kevin for giving up his entire evening to sort out my LPG issues. All calibrated, mapped and running beautifully. :-*
11pm by the time I left so thank you both for your time and effort. Much appreciated. :y
Now, shall we tell them what was up with it...? ::)
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Mrs Wood first for lovely Macaroni cheese... Numnyumnyumnyum. 4cheese in fact. Lovely thought, thank you. :-*
...and to Kevin for giving up his entire evening to sort out my LPG issues. All calibrated, mapped and running beautifully. :-*
11pm by the time I left so thank you both for your time and effort. Much appreciated. :y
Now, shall we tell them what was up with it...? ::)[/quote]
Something stupid / simple or at worst you had no gas. :D :D
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No problem. Was a pleasure to help. :y
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Mrs Wood first for lovely Macaroni cheese... Numnyumnyumnyum. 4cheese in fact. Lovely thought, thank you. :-*
...and to Kevin for giving up his entire evening to sort out my LPG issues. All calibrated, mapped and running beautifully. :-*
11pm by the time I left so thank you both for your time and effort. Much appreciated. :y
Now, shall we tell them what was up with it...? ::)[/quote]
Something stupid / simple or at worst you had no gas. :D :D
At one stage there was no gas getting through, but there was gas in it. So close, but no ceegarrr.
This was a differant issue though. ::)
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C,mon Gixer - fess up. ::) :P :)
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Fess up! Was it something you'd done?
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Guess. :)
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Guess. :)
Was I right on the phone? Another kinked pipe?
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Btw, and this is nout to do with the issue, there is the same imbalance between banks we have seen before. No problem, Kev added some duration(?) on that side to balance it out, but it will be interesting to see what's causing it.
Imbalance between injector blocks?
Different lengths of fuel pipe?
T on one side causing slight restriction?
Slightly more kinked large fuel pipe on one bank?
Thoughts?
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Btw, and this is nout to do with the issue, there is the same imbalance between banks we have seen before. No problem, Kev added some duration(?) on that side to balance it out, but it will be interesting to see what's causing it.
Imbalance between injector blocks?
Different lengths of fuel pipe?
T on one side causing slight restriction?
Slightly more kinked large fuel pipe on one bank?
Thoughts?
Yeah... Checked my long term trims today and one is -2, the other 8 (IIRC) and my theory is the slightly longer pipe run. Not causing me any issues though so if it ain't broke...
Checked my map too... Still pretty much spot on :y
So... What was the problem? You're getting as bad as that shouty bloke! ::) ;D
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Must say it does go well. Very pleased. Thanks for your efforts on the kit Paul. :-*. :y
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Must say it does go well. Very pleased. Thanks for your efforts on the kit Paul. :-*. :y
I'm glad I persevered and managed to get a kit that works so well sorted! Although I still think I've caught something from you... My average economy is very low at the moment :-X ::)
Anyway... Stop avoiding the question and fess up! Or I'll just give up and go to sleep! ;D
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Must say it does go well. Very pleased. Thanks for your efforts on the kit Paul. :-*. :y
I'm glad I persevered and managed to get a kit that works so well sorted! Although I still think I've caught something from you... My average economy is very low at the moment :-X ::)
Anyway... Stop avoiding the question and fess up! Or I'll just give up and go to sleep! ;D
Zzzzzzzzz. ;)
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Must say it does go well. Very pleased. Thanks for your efforts on the kit Paul. :-*. :y
I'm glad I persevered and managed to get a kit that works so well sorted! Although I still think I've caught something from you... My average economy is very low at the moment :-X ::)
Anyway... Stop avoiding the question and fess up! Or I'll just give up and go to sleep! ;D
Zzzzzzzzz. ;)
Don't care anyway! It's not my car! :P :P ;D ;D
I'm just glad it wasn't kit related... Would have been really annoying if 1 in 3 was dodgy! ::) ::)
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Wiring to the tank was wrong?
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Still reckon crossed injectors, or something along those lines...
...so,
1) LPG loom fault
2) Injectors plugged in wrong
3) Injector to manifold gas pipes crossed somehow
TB prays it was not something he did, unless directly related to that bag of gravel he pour down inlet 1...
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I'm with TB, although I still put a kinked pipe at the top of the list. Then LPG loom fault, then crossed wiring/plumbing between injectors ::)
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LD wins. Injector pipe was slightly pinched between manifold and head on injectors 4 and 5 (cylinders 2 4) something I'm sure I checked and was careful with when installing. :-[
We didn't think it was bad enough to cause the issues we where seeing, so continued to check every aspect of the wiring, even down to the pin outs on the loom plug. Kevs diagnostic logic and process is impressive. We found nothing wrong other than that so put the plenum back on, fired it up and bingo, no misfires and calibrated straight away. [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]
Those rubber pipes are hard when cold, but very compliant when hot. Wondered if they slipped down...? :-/
So nout to do with anyone else's work or too small a bag of gravel ;D. :y
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Btw, and this is nout to do with the issue, there is the same imbalance between banks we have seen before. No problem, Kev added some duration(?) on that side to balance it out, but it will be interesting to see what's causing it.
Imbalance between injector blocks?
Different lengths of fuel pipe?
T on one side causing slight restriction?
Slightly more kinked large fuel pipe on one bank?
Thoughts?
Yeah... Checked my long term trims today and one is -2, the other 8 (IIRC) and my theory is the slightly longer pipe run. Not causing me any issues though so if it ain't broke...
Checked my map too... Still pretty much spot on :y
So... What was the problem? You're getting as bad as that shouty bloke! ::) ;D
This was a huge mismatch between banks. -10% on one side and +10% on the other added in the Stag ECU and it was still slightly out of balance, although longer nozzle pipes so they aren't as tightly routed may help. It's bad enough to cause poor running when switching to petrol due tot he large fuel trim it builds up on one bank. Be interesting to see where the fuel trims settle when we've got time for a more extended fettle. (I suppose you could do this with me ELM cable, Chris ::))
I had a small issue on mine when I converted it (about 5% difference between banks) and originally thought it was down to pipe length or the fact that one bank has the measurement Tee in the line. Swapped it all about and it was the injectors! :o
It makes me wonder if Teilo could do a better job of providing matched pairs of injectors blocks - or at least supply pairs from the same production batch?
I must admit, I can't really see why they would vary so much from one injector block to the next. :-/
Kevin
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Think I said kinked pipe a week ago when we spoke? ::)
Anyway... What do I win? ;D
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Think I said kinked pipe a week ago when we spoke? ::)
Anyway... What do I win? ;D
Got a bag of gravel here going spare... ;)
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Think I said kinked pipe a week ago when we spoke? ::)
Anyway... What do I win? ;D
Got a bag of gravel here going spare... ;)
We'll save that for the next conversion ::) ;D
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Think I said kinked pipe a week ago when we spoke? ::)
Anyway... What do I win? ;D
You did indeed, as did Albs. :y :-[
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Think I said kinked pipe a week ago when we spoke? ::)
Anyway... What do I win? ;D
Got a bag of gravel here going spare... ;)
We'll save that for the next conversion ::) ;D
Yep, not "our" car ;D :-X
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I must admit, I can't really see why they would vary so much from one injector block to the next. :-/
Made in China? ;D
Wonder if you can send them off to be cleaned & flow tested like petrol injectors? Or for that matter, could it be to do with the fact you've also got self-drilled nozzles on the end of a bit of pipe?
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Think I said kinked pipe a week ago when we spoke? ::)
Anyway... What do I win? ;D
Got a bag of gravel here going spare... ;)
We'll save that for the next conversion ::) ;D
Yep, not "our" car ;D :-X
Mine? ::)
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Think I said kinked pipe a week ago when we spoke? ::)
Anyway... What do I win? ;D
Got a bag of gravel here going spare... ;)
We'll save that for the next conversion ::) ;D
Yep, not "our" car ;D :-X
Mine? ::)
Not mine ;)
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Think I said kinked pipe a week ago when we spoke? ::)
Anyway... What do I win? ;D
Got a bag of gravel here going spare... ;)
We'll save that for the next conversion ::) ;D
Yep, not "our" car ;D :-X
Mine? ::)
Not mine ;)
Or mine ;) ::) ;D
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Or mine :P
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KEVIIIIIIN .....
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Looks like Johnnycboy is taking the plunge in the next few weeks ::)
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Again?
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Again?
On his estate ;) ;)
Albs is driving around in his old LPG one ::) ::)
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KEVIIIIIIN .....
Eh?
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KEVIIIIIIN .....
Not my car either...
Come on Kev keep up. ;)
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Oh, yeah.. certainly not my car. :P