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Title: Did not realise they went this cheap!
Post by: tunnie on 16 July 2011, 17:14:43
I know they eat oil, but still!

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201126395434502/sort/priceasc/usedcars/model/rx8/make/mazda/postcode/nn136er/page/1/radius/1500?logcode=p

Could they take GM 10/40 Semi Synth? Or do you need something a bit thinner in a Wankel engine?  :-/
Title: Re: Did not realise they went this cheap!
Post by: albitz on 16 July 2011, 17:20:37
Drinking oil shouldnt be a problem with these ones - the early ones (70,s) were scrap when they were about 3 years old and the rotor tips ahd worn away.
They are still very thirsty though - so second hand values are low. A bit of a bargain car imo, if you can afford the fuel bills.
Title: Re: Did not realise they went this cheap!
Post by: RobG on 16 July 2011, 17:21:26
5/30 semi-synth
Title: Re: Did not realise they went this cheap!
Post by: albitz on 16 July 2011, 17:28:37
Have you got a link to prove your point though ? :D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Did not realise they went this cheap!
Post by: tunnie on 16 July 2011, 17:32:16
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Drinking oil shouldnt be a problem with these ones - the early ones (70,s) were scrap when they were about 3 years old and the rotor tips ahd worn away.
They are still very thirsty though - so second hand values are low. A bit of a bargain car imo, if you can afford the fuel bills.


Heard oil consumption is still heavy on these  :-/

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5/30 semi-synth

Cheers, if its possible to get that on Trade Club with Vx, oil consumption would not really be an issue.


£2,980 with just 68k on the clock, its like new  :o

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201127396553741/sort/priceasc/usedcars/model/rx8/make/mazda/radius/1500/page/2/postcode/nn136er?logcode=p
Title: Re: Did not realise they went this cheap!
Post by: RobG on 16 July 2011, 17:33:15
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Have you got a link to prove your point though ? :D ;D ;D
http://www.rx8ownersclub.co.uk/MemberBenefits.htm#Oil
 :P :P :P :P :P
Title: Re: Did not realise they went this cheap!
Post by: tunnie on 16 July 2011, 17:34:13
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Have you got a link to prove your point though ? :D ;D ;D


http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=47&i=7249

 :D :D :D :D

Hand book says check oil every 500 miles  :o
Title: Re: Did not realise they went this cheap!
Post by: tunnie on 16 July 2011, 17:36:16
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Have you got a link to prove your point though ? :D ;D ;D
http://www.rx8ownersclub.co.uk/MemberBenefits.htm#Oil
 :P :P :P :P :P


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4 x 5 litre bottles Including VAT and Delivery to home address in mainland
     UK £ 76.99

 :o :o :o

GM's TC deal really is a steal!!!

Can you get 5/30 on Vx TC?
Title: Re: Did not realise they went this cheap!
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 16 July 2011, 17:36:33
Nice car. A bit girlie though... ;)
Title: Re: Did not realise they went this cheap!
Post by: RobG on 16 July 2011, 17:45:12
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Have you got a link to prove your point though ? :D ;D ;D
http://www.rx8ownersclub.co.uk/MemberBenefits.htm#Oil
 :P :P :P :P :P


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4 x 5 litre bottles Including VAT and Delivery to home address in mainland
     UK £ 76.99

 :o :o :o

GM's TC deal really is a steal!!!

Can you get 5/30 on Vx TC?
Only full synth
Longlife Super synthetic 5W30 dexos2 - SM/CF A3/B4/C3 GM-LL-A/B-027; 20 litres  93165611  £118.00  £100.30  £54.27
Title: Re: Did not realise they went this cheap!
Post by: tunnie on 16 July 2011, 17:50:58
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Have you got a link to prove your point though ? :D ;D ;D
http://www.rx8ownersclub.co.uk/MemberBenefits.htm#Oil
 :P :P :P :P :P


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4 x 5 litre bottles Including VAT and Delivery to home address in mainland
     UK £ 76.99

 :o :o :o

GM's TC deal really is a steal!!!

Can you get 5/30 on Vx TC?
Only full synth
Longlife Super synthetic 5W30 dexos2 - SM/CF A3/B4/C3 GM-LL-A/B-027; 20 litres  93165611  £118.00  £100.30  £54.27

Not bad, still cheaper than that forum deal. Looking at what £64 ish?

Not drastically more than current 10/40.

Title: Re: Did not realise they went this cheap!
Post by: aaronjb on 16 July 2011, 18:31:28
Cost me £53.37 for 4x5L of 5W30 fully synth last time (since they didn't stock 20L drums but were doing 4-for-3 on 5L).. at that price I don't know why anyone would use anything else (but the forum seems obsessed with semi syn ;)).

A colleague at work has a 2004 RX8 and carries 1L of oil around with him, but I don't think he's got through the litre between services yet, so it's not all bad.
Title: Re: Did not realise they went this cheap!
Post by: STMO123 on 16 July 2011, 18:45:01
This from Honest John:
Car must NEVER be started then shut down without reaching full operating temperature or petrol washout will harm rotor seals. Car must not be used for short runs from cold.


Bit of a worry that. :-/
Title: Re: Did not realise they went this cheap!
Post by: aaronjb on 16 July 2011, 19:14:35
Another concern that's overstated, I think.. not that I can speak from enormous experience, but the colleague I mentioned regularly (i.e. most days) uses the car for the school run (a couple of miles) and work (all of a dozen miles) and hasn't had any reliability problems or flooding incidents..

Somehow I can't see Tunnie in an RX8, though.. far too much like a sports car for him, surely ;)
Title: Re: Did not realise they went this cheap!
Post by: mantahatch on 16 July 2011, 19:24:48
Hmmm, both ads state low mileage, and the car is cheap, that smells a bit to me.
Both ads quote different insurance groups aswell.

I would assume insurance will be qute high for anyone youngish.

I like the look of these right from the start, but not so sure they are aging that well if you know what I mean.

With such a car I would have to do a lot of research and looking at different cars befor  purchased. The old reasons like, probably been hacked, probably damaged, good candidate for mileage correction etc.

Buyer be very aware.
Title: Re: Did not realise they went this cheap!
Post by: MikeDundee on 16 July 2011, 19:42:50
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Nice car. A bit girlie though... ;)

You have'nt met Tunnie have you ;D
Title: Re: Did not realise they went this cheap!
Post by: Olympia5776 on 16 July 2011, 20:08:02
Never driven one but been a passenger in one several times .Lovely interior , Comfortable for my 6'4 " frame and powerful too .
I just could never got over excited at the shape ,just too long in the 2+2 format , a bit like the 280Z versus the 240Z if you know what I mean ?  :-/
Title: Re: Did not realise they went this cheap!
Post by: MikeDundee on 16 July 2011, 20:10:03
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Never driven one but been a passenger in one several times .Lovely interior , Comfortable for my 6'4 " frame and powerful too .
I just could never got over excited at the shape ,just too long in the 2+2 format , a bit like the 280Z versus the 240Z if you know what I mean ?  :-/

Can you elaborate on the 280z vs 240z for us non techie folks please :y
Title: Re: Did not realise they went this cheap!
Post by: Olympia5776 on 16 July 2011, 20:38:38
Sorry Mike my fault...
The difference between the Datsun 240Z and the Datsun/Nissan 280Z 2+2 version . The latter is spoilt by the longer wheelbase .
240Z
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/olympia5776/Odds%20and%20Ends/1971_Datsun_240Z_3.jpg)
280Z 2+2
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/olympia5776/Odds%20and%20Ends/1978_datsun_280z_22.jpg)
Title: Re: Did not realise they went this cheap!
Post by: tunnie on 16 July 2011, 21:25:47
I've never driven one, but sat in them. Again it's very comfy if your long in the leg.

Something to add to the list for future replacement on a budget!
Title: Re: Did not realise they went this cheap!
Post by: aaronjb on 16 July 2011, 21:32:03
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Sorry Mike my fault...
The difference between the Datsun 240Z and the Datsun/Nissan 280Z 2+2 version . The latter is spoilt by the longer wheelbase .
240Z
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/olympia5776/Odds%20and%20Ends/1971_Datsun_240Z_3.jpg)

One of the most beautiful Japanese cars ever produced, I reckon, along with the Toyota 2000GT. Dribble.
Title: Re: Did not realise they went this cheap!
Post by: Kevin Wood on 16 July 2011, 23:10:24
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Somehow I can't see Tunnie in an RX8, though.. far too much like a sports car for him, surely ;)

 ;D

A bit of a waste unless you like the interesting bit of the rev counter dial (you know, where it's red), too. ;)

Oil consumption is only a concern until you think about the fuel consumption. :o Then it pales into insignificance. Still, I would. :y

That goes for a 240Z too, if I ever found one that wasn't all crusty. :-*
Title: Re: Did not realise they went this cheap!
Post by: aaronjb on 16 July 2011, 23:24:02
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Oil consumption is only a concern until you think about the fuel consumption. :o Then it pales into insignificance. Still, I would. :y

Yeah, I don't think the fella at work spends much time out of single-digit economy! Makes the Omega look positively frugal..

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That goes for a 240Z too, if I ever found one that wasn't all crusty. :-*

Indeed - most of the ones left in the UK are complete basket cases.. and the ones that aren't fetch silly money :(

The last one I saw bought as a project turned out to be a 'flintstones' car.. and it didn't look that bad from the outside (until you lifted the carpets, anyway, and then the floor fell out)
Title: Re: Did not realise they went this cheap!
Post by: albitz on 16 July 2011, 23:54:56
I can recall being offered a 240z for £70 in 1978. it was only about 7 years old, but they were starting to become sought after even then. I walked away because there was so much rust in the bloody thing. ::) ;D
I often drive past one on the way to work, which looks in lovely condition - worth a tidy sum I should imagine.
Title: Re: Did not realise they went this cheap!
Post by: Gaffers on 17 July 2011, 07:31:27
I drove one of the early ones and they are fun to drive esp as the power comes from the correct wheels.  To get full power though you have to rev the nuts off of it which increases oil cons......
Title: Re: Did not realise they went this cheap!
Post by: Nick W on 17 July 2011, 09:06:37
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This from Honest John:
Car must NEVER be started then shut down without reaching full operating temperature or petrol washout will harm rotor seals. Car must not be used for short runs from cold.




Bit of a worry that. :-/

That is essential advice; if you ignore it then you can guarantee that it won't start due to severe flooding. VERY common problem. They are a nightmare to get going again, I manage about 1 in 10. Mazda changed the plug specs and upgraded the coils, but it's just like upgraded K-series head gaskets, the problem is improved but not totally cured.

Personally, I think the RX8's reliability/durability(it doesn't have any!)/economy record is proof why the Wankel isn't suited to car use, although it does have other applications.
Title: Re: Did not realise they went this cheap!
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 17 July 2011, 11:22:03
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Never driven one but been a passenger in one several times .Lovely interior , Comfortable for my 6'4 " frame and powerful too .
I just could never got over excited at the shape ,just too long in the 2+2 format , a bit like the 280Z versus the 240Z if you know what I mean ?  :-/

Can you elaborate on the 280z vs 240z for us non techie folks please :y
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240Z designed for lithe europeans. 260Z/280Z designed for fat yanks.... ;)