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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: footloose on 19 July 2011, 12:19:09
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I was driving on the outside lane of a dual carriagway. in the town where i live wanting to turn right at the roundabout, the traffic had built up and was blocking my way. A cop siren was going off some where, i looked all around but couldn't see him so i patiently waited for the cars in front on the roundabout blocking my exit to get moving. Anyway the siren was still going off and then hooting started i just couldn't see the light or anything to give me a clue. Then the missus says he's right behind us.
I could't see as he had pulled up right close and with the centre headrest at the back blocking my view I had no idea
he was there, he had those lights in the grill which are pretty low down too. I dont know where he thought i was going to go so i put me arm out the window and pinted at the cars blocking the way that realy started him off shouting and gestulating. Then a gap appeared in front i plonked me foot the car jumped up and down a couple fo times at the back and i shot forward around the roundabout The last i saw of him was dissapearing up the dual carriageway waving out the window so i waved back.
I suppose my car is now marked. I must say i did sweat abit on the way home. I don't know why but i felt a bit of a twit. :-[ :-? :o :'(
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At times it does feel like they abuse their power.
I've been bullied through red lights on roundabouts by police cars on more than one occasion. >:(
I've also had them sit in the next lane to me on the motorway, deliberately matching my speed, in my blind spot.....would have dearly loved him to pull me on that occasion.
Sad to say but I put more effort into moving for fire and ambulance, I've had respect for the police knocked out of me. :(
Don't fret on it, you did what you did and if your car is marked so be it.
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Thought you were the twit????? Not you m8....the pratts in the ploddy car were though. ;D Typical of the know it all plods! Rules and common courtesy do not apply to them which is probably why we all near on hate them.
If they were fingering you you should have took their plate number and reported them. We taxpayers pay their excessive underworked for wages anyway.
W*ankers all, at least the greatest majority of them..... could it be their tea was getting cold or were they on their way to give some poor sod a kicking? :D ;)
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i got pulled up last year and the excuse was my car had been reported as stolen, then he said i was going too fast as i pulled out the turning so i said something unkindly got in the car and drove off. that was the last of it.
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the pratts in the ploddy car were though. ;D
Typical of the know it all plods!
Rules and common courtesy do not apply to them
probably why we all near on hate them.
excessive underworked for wages anyway.
W*ankers all, at least the greatest majority of them.....
could it be their tea was getting cold
or were they on their way to give some poor sod a kicking? :D ;)
Strictly as a matter of personal opinion... I can't remember the last time I saw so much generalised, biased bull$hit in one post ;D
As H21, myself and many others have said on this forum countless times, the majority of plod are hard working dedicated people, who are actually passionate about what they do.
Accepted, there are a a few bad apples in the plod, as there are in every organisation without exception - but your post is, IMO, a world away from reality.
Have you, by any chance, had a bad experience with the law? ;D
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the pratts in the ploddy car were though. ;D
Typical of the know it all plods!
Rules and common courtesy do not apply to them
probably why we all near on hate them.
excessive underworked for wages anyway.
W*ankers all, at least the greatest majority of them.....
could it be their tea was getting cold
or were they on their way to give some poor sod a kicking? :D ;)
Strictly as a matter of personal opinion... I can't remember the last time I saw so much generalised, biased bull$hit in one post ;D
As H21, myself and many others have said on this forum countless times, the majority of plod are hard working dedicated people, who are actually passionate about what they do.
Accepted, there are a a few bad apples in the plod, as there are in every organisation without exception - but your post is, IMO, a world away from reality.
Have you, by any chance, had a bad experience with the law? ;D
Errr yup!! 2 brothers in law are coppers. 1 in Thames Valley traffic, t'other in Liverpool.... sorry to say that both are arrogant dicks in & out of work - could be the bad apples ::)
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I put more effort into moving for fire and ambulance
So you'd happily hold up a police vehicle on an emergency shout, (potentially endangernig some innocent victim of crime) Yet if you were in serious trouble and needed Police assistance, I've absolutely no doubt you'd moan if they weren't there in lightning speed.
People weren't wrong when they said it's a thankless job.
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I put more effort into moving for fire and ambulance
So you'd happily hold up a police vehicle on an emergency shout, (potentially endangernig some innocent victim of crime) Yet if you were in serious trouble and needed Police assistance, I've absolutely no doubt you'd moan if they weren't there in lightning speed.
People weren't wrong when they said it's a thankless job.
Thats kind of putting words into peoples mouths...
I too have felt bullied by police, where as the other services do not seem as aggressive to get past.
Ambulance / Fire, I will do my utmost, bumping up kerbs etc, you know there is a quite possibly a life endangered..
Police - I move quickly and safely for, but with less risk to myself.
Ive seen many times police drivers act like they own the road and you are nothing more than a nuisance to them.
Yes, there are good and bad, but I and many speak as we find.
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Police - I move quickly and safely for, but with less risk to myself.
Which is all anyone can ask :y
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the pratts in the ploddy car were though. ;D
Typical of the know it all plods!
Rules and common courtesy do not apply to them
probably why we all near on hate them.
excessive underworked for wages anyway.
W*ankers all, at least the greatest majority of them.....
could it be their tea was getting cold
or were they on their way to give some poor sod a kicking? :D ;)
Strictly as a matter of personal opinion... I can't remember the last time I saw so much generalised, biased bull$hit in one post ;D
As H21, myself and many others have said on this forum countless times, the majority of plod are hard working dedicated people, who are actually passionate about what they do.
Accepted, there are a a few bad apples in the plod, as there are in every organisation without exception - but your post is, IMO, a world away from reality.
Have you, by any chance, had a bad experience with the law? ;D
i agree with that james but the bad ones are a severe menace with an attitude you just wouldnt piss on them if they were on fire
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the pratts in the ploddy car were though. ;D
Typical of the know it all plods!
Rules and common courtesy do not apply to them
probably why we all near on hate them.
excessive underworked for wages anyway.
W*ankers all, at least the greatest majority of them.....
could it be their tea was getting cold
or were they on their way to give some poor sod a kicking? :D ;)
Strictly as a matter of personal opinion... I can't remember the last time I saw so much generalised, biased bull$hit in one post ;D
As H21, myself and many others have said on this forum countless times, the majority of plod are hard working dedicated people, who are actually passionate about what they do.
Accepted, there are a a few bad apples in the plod, as there are in every organisation without exception - but your post is, IMO, a world away from reality.
Have you, by any chance, had a bad experience with the law? ;D
i agree with that james but the bad ones are a severe menace with an attitude you just wouldnt piss on them if they were on fire
Just two types of policemen eh?
Amazing. ;D ;D
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the pratts in the ploddy car were though. ;D
Typical of the know it all plods!
Rules and common courtesy do not apply to them
probably why we all near on hate them.
excessive underworked for wages anyway.
W*ankers all, at least the greatest majority of them.....
could it be their tea was getting cold
or were they on their way to give some poor sod a kicking? :D ;)
Strictly as a matter of personal opinion... I can't remember the last time I saw so much generalised, biased bull$hit in one post ;D
As H21, myself and many others have said on this forum countless times, the majority of plod are hard working dedicated people, who are actually passionate about what they do.
Accepted, there are a a few bad apples in the plod, as there are in every organisation without exception - but your post is, IMO, a world away from reality.
Have you, by any chance, had a bad experience with the law? ;D
i agree with that james but the bad ones are a severe menace with an attitude you just wouldnt piss on them if they were on fire
Just two types of policemen eh?
Amazing. ;D ;D
what other types are there then, i thought there is just good and bad, same as in everyone to be honest
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Here's a question..
If you're sitting at a set of lights (on red, obviously) with a red light camera and the emergency services are coming and you need to make room.. would you go over the line and risk triggering the camera and getting done?
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Here's a question..
If you're sitting at a set of lights (on red, obviously) with a red light camera and the emergency services are coming and you need to make room.. would you go over the line and risk triggering the camera and getting done?
I did exactly this in Cardiff about 2 years ago, for an ambulance.
Presumably the local camera partnership saw the ambulance in the shot, and applied common sense, as I never received a NIP...
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On the subject of bad apples in the Emergency Services, and evidence of how it's not limited to the Police - see below.
"Paramedic on lunch break refused to help dying woman 300 yards away"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/3060387/Paramedic-on-lunch-break-refused-to-help-dying-woman.html
There are some coppers out there who, wihtout question, shouldn't be in the job. I'm not disputing that.
I just don't get the "they're all w**kers comments"....
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Here's a question..
If you're sitting at a set of lights (on red, obviously) with a red light camera and the emergency services are coming and you need to make room.. would you go over the line and risk triggering the camera and getting done?
I think I recall this scenario being debated on here some time back where a poster had got a naughty-ticket.
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The bad apples seem to be floating to the top of the barrel. Ive just watched yates of the yard being interviewed by the parliamentary commitee and he was imo, lying through his teeth. ;)
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I must say you alway get the odd bad one. three weeks ago my best friend was killed on impact in an accident and the traffic sargent really was the biggest knob i have ever encountered. My other friend was driving behind him at the time and he see the whole thing and called me to the scene and i got there five minutes after it happend. We couldnt get anywhere near him as he was upside down in a ditch that was covered in brambles. But the copper arrested my other mate for death by dangerous driving these charges have now been dropped as he never done anything wrong. But the thing that really got to me was how he told us he was dead it was so unsypathetic he just said oh by the way your mate is dead it really shocked me and i know these guys see it day in and day out but it was the most horrific day of my life and people like that dont need to be that way i understand they get frustrated see a young life lost due to silly behavour but it doesnt need to be made even worse than it already is.
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Here's a question..
If you're sitting at a set of lights (on red, obviously) with a red light camera and the emergency services are coming and you need to make room.. would you go over the line and risk triggering the camera and getting done?
I did exactly this in Cardiff about 2 years ago, for an ambulance.
Presumably the local camera partnership saw the ambulance in the shot, and applied common sense, as I never received a NIP...
Good to know :) It was a genuine question too really - although where I live now there is a beautiful lack of cameras of any kind (just two red light cameras that I know of) so it's not so much of an issue.. Then again I imagine you have to be a reasonable distance over the line to trigger the camera anyway.
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I put more effort into moving for fire and ambulance
So you'd happily hold up a police vehicle on an emergency shout, (potentially endangernig some innocent victim of crime) Yet if you were in serious trouble and needed Police assistance, I've absolutely no doubt you'd moan if they weren't there in lightning speed.
People weren't wrong when they said it's a thankless job.
Wow! Why should England tremble? Oh it's because free speech is twisted into incriminating evidence, that's why!
Oh and for the record I'd be more inclined to sort my own mess out than call the police! :y
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When I was training for my RoSPA advanced driving test, I attended a lecture by a police instructor.
His advice was, pull over when safe to do so, do not be bullied into breaking the law, i.e. mounting the pavement or jumping traffic lights to get out of their way.
They are taught not to bully their way through traffic if it's impossible for the car in front of them to move out of the way safely.
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When I was training for my RoSPA advanced driving test, I attended a lecture by a police instructor.
His advice was, pull over when safe to do so, do not be bullied into breaking the law, i.e. mounting the pavement or jumping traffic lights to get out of their way.
They are taught not to bully their way through traffic if it's impossible for the car in front of them to move out of the way safely.
In my experience they had slept through that particular lesson! >:(
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saw 3 police cars last week with blues and sirens stayed back from junction as they were turning right i watched in amazement as 1 of them nearly rolled the focus he was "driving" should have been done for dangerous driving in my opinon.
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The bad apples seem to be floating to the top of the barrel. Ive just watched yates of the yard being interviewed by the parliamentary commitee and he was imo, lying through his teeth. ;)
I thought this but his boss I thought otherwise, last saw a pair of gimps being interviewed a prune and a slightly camp yank.
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Here's a question..
If you're sitting at a set of lights (on red, obviously) with a red light camera and the emergency services are coming and you need to make room.. would you go over the line and risk triggering the camera and getting done?
Yep... Have done many times, normally to a position which will prevent vehicles from the side road entering the junction
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I think the trash TV police shows have destroyed a lot of respect that the Police had, esp traffic. Those idiots on those shows are a bunch of self-centred idiots.
In my own personal experiences, having been stopped a number of times, is they are mostly polite, friendly, knowledgable, decent people doing a job that is always going to get our backs up. Made worse by the society we've bred, where we are not allowed to tell our children off, discipline them, not ever allow winners and losers - so when the police tell them they are doing wrong, they get a torrent of abuse.
However, I think the police service has gone right down the toilet - the last armed robbery my brother had, the police refused to turn up until the robbers had left.
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I think the trash TV police shows have destroyed a lot of respect that the Police had, esp traffic. Those idiots on those shows are a bunch of self-centred idiots.
In my own personal experiences, having been stopped a number of times, is they are mostly polite, friendly, knowledgable, decent people doing a job that is always going to get our backs up. Made worse by the society we've bred, where we are not allowed to tell our children off, discipline them, not ever allow winners and losers - so when the police tell them they are doing wrong, they get a torrent of abuse.
However, I think the police service has gone right down the toilet - the last armed robbery my brother had, the police refused to turn up until the robbers had left.
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They obviously done a desktop over the phone risk assessment :y ;D
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I think the trash TV police shows have destroyed a lot of respect that the Police had, esp traffic. Those idiots on those shows are a bunch of self-centred idiots.
In my own personal experiences, having been stopped a number of times, is they are mostly polite, friendly, knowledgable, decent people doing a job that is always going to get our backs up. Made worse by the society we've bred, where we are not allowed to tell our children off, discipline them, not ever allow winners and losers - so when the police tell them they are doing wrong, they get a torrent of abuse.
However, I think the police service has gone right down the toilet - the last armed robbery my brother had, the police refused to turn up until the robbers had left.
Which is why I say I'd deal with my own mess, they've been next to useless in the few dealings I've had with them! >:(
I'd spun my car on the motorway, was left parked the wrong way on the hard shoulder in rush hour, dialled 999 and waited. Police car arrives, decides that as it was just on the english/welsh border he'd best wait for the other team to arrive so sits and twiddles his thumbs until the next lot arrive who then stop the traffic, turn the car round and escort me off the motorway!
They disregarded the usual advice of wait behind the crash barrier away from the car and advised me to sit in it......don't think so somehow! >:(
I don't doubt that there are some fantastic police about, I've just never met one!
As my grandad used to say '' If you ever find a good copper, shoot him before he goes bad!'' Seems to ring true around here! :y
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ive had my fair share of run ins with her majestys staff and spent the odd night in one of her hotel rooms(en suite too :y)and i can honestly say ive always found them to be proffesional,polite and on some occasions have even given me advice.its easy to brand them all self-abusers after meeting some bad apples but one day you might really need them and i do think that the majority of coppers are really frustrated at not being aloud to do there jobs like we expect them to because of human rights and its not worth the hours and paperwork because some lawyer will get the defendant off on some legallity issue like why arrest an immigrant when they have to let him go with a promise to attend bail but never show and pikeys in stolen cars they know if they catch and arrest them nothing will come of it.so imo its not the officers fault its the law gone mad in favour of the bad guy,give them a break theyre only doing what there told and allowed to which is not what we would like them to be doing
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Would like to ask you all about something in the OP's post that has not been commented on:-
I often have trouble assessing which direction a siren is coming from - the old 'nee nah nee nah' sirens were much easier to place for me. How many of you agree with this?
Think its an interesting point...
On the subject of coppers, in my limited dealings with them, all bar one have been all I could reasonably expect from a professional public servant.
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He again, ::) :-X
Pick an easy target that rarely answers back - and be willingly heard...
How about kiddie fiddler child carers? Don't they all do that?
How about sailors or male airline cabin staff? Donthey all bat for the other team?
Don't all male teachers ogle the teenage 5th formers?
Or do the female teachers all avoid trying their hand with nubile and able young adult males that just want to scatter seed at the earliest opperchancity?
You get the picture...... ::)
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So to some of you on here the Police are nothing but a bunch of self-abusers etc >:( >:( >:( >:( >: If this is the case then please dont Call them when you or your family are in need of their help as Im sure you wouldnt want to be called a two faced mucker by those who understand their daily fight to keep that very thin blue line (which is getting thinner by the day under the cost cutting we are facing under Gov ) so that we can go about our daily business feeling somewhat safe.
How many of us have had the job of going and knocking a door and telling the person who opens it that someone wont ever be coming home to them.... Not a job I would wanna do would YOU :-?
The list could go on forever so Im sure we could allow them some slack as we dont know what that have just had to deal with.
Any serving officers on here ... I say thank you for your efforts in keeping my family safe while Im away working through the night :y
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So to some of you on here the Police are nothing but a bunch of self-abusers etc >:( >:( >:( >:( >: If this is the case then please dont Call them when you or your family are in need of their help as Im sure you wouldnt want to be called a two faced mucker by those who understand their daily fight to keep that very thin blue line (which is getting thinner by the day under the cost cutting we are facing under Gov ) so that we can go about our daily business feeling somewhat safe.
How many of us have had the job of going and knocking a door and telling the person who opens it that someone wont ever be coming home to them.... Not a job I would wanna do would YOU :-?
The list could go on forever so Im sure we could allow them some slack as we dont know what that have just had to deal with.
Any serving officers on here ... I say thank you for your efforts in keeping my family safe while Im away working through the night :y
It is not just the Police that have to have such discussions..... :)
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Ok, i used to be an ex part time plod (i know it was part time but i was heavily involved with full time duties due to being unemployed for a while lol) and was a fully qualified paramedic (with all relevant driving skills as well) and i have to say, ignorance is the biggest bain of ANY emergency service driver.
At the end of the day, there are bad eggs in all the services that abuse or drive otherwise in accordance to their driver training. They get a buzz from being able to push through the traffic (i would be a liar if i said i didnt when i was on the ambulances)
If i hear or see blues and twos, i shift over (either in the car or the 43ft, 7L, turbocharged shed) and let them do what they have to do.
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No.1 = "knocking a door and telling the person who opens it that someone wont ever be coming home"
No.2 = "Any serving officers on here ... I say thank you for your efforts in keeping my family safe while Im away working through the night" :y
Ref:
No.1 As per 'Rikki Essex' previous, the subtle art of BAD NEWS is 'long gone' within the Modern Police Force............they appear to be way too busy.
No.2 The protection you ENJOY is through shear weight of number ie. the odd's are still in your favour, just! ............when you do eventually have need of The Force at home you will recieve a 'free giv a way' incident number and "the officer will be around sometime tomorrow"
My Nephew is a Sergeant in the Met !!! so, my info is current.
Example No.1........London, Bounds Green LuL Station, north bound at approx 01:00hrs on a weekend night. I was overtaken by a Police Ford (lights & Music) who tripped the Gatso Camera and disappeared........500yds, I waited at the North Circular [A406] Junction lights.........up comes the long awaited GREENS, I turn left left to see... 50yds away the SAME Police Ford (NO lights & Music) in the petrol station on the left filling up !!!!
Example No.2........London, rear of Waterloo Station, Junction of Lower Marsh Rd.
08:30hrs midweek morning, again a small Police Ford (lights & Music) the wrong way up a 'one way st' hard right with some pace on up another 'one way' parked on a corner .....on double yellow's......two in plain clothes exit the car and walk into Gregg's the Bakers [who's gonna rob Greg's first thing in the morning?] then, out they come with bags of pastry's in hand !!!!! and bugger off.
I photographed the vehicle and plate, sent it to the Met Police, the nice lady inspector phoned and assured me that they were 'on the case' then 2weeks later a Sergeant phoned to say that the Officers Responcible did not fill out the vehicle logbook......so we've got no idea who they are !!!!! If that was you or me the Fleet Manager Responcible would be in Magistrates Court before the end of the month...........
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From me "to whom it may concern - The Police have made thier own bad PR (imho) therefore, they are loosing public support..........one piece at a time"
Who was that poor news paper seller who got tangled-up in a demonstration (on his way home) in London, hit with a Batton (if i remember correctly) Died.........manslaughter charges?? Yes / No.............Mmmmmm..... >:(
Regards,
Ding a Ling.
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the pratts in the ploddy car were though. ;D
Typical of the know it all plods!
Rules and common courtesy do not apply to them
probably why we all near on hate them.
excessive underworked for wages anyway.
W*ankers all, at least the greatest majority of them.....
could it be their tea was getting cold
or were they on their way to give some poor sod a kicking? :D ;)
Strictly as a matter of personal opinion... I can't remember the last time I saw so much generalised, biased bull$hit in one post ;D
As H21, myself and many others have said on this forum countless times, the majority of plod are hard working dedicated people, who are actually passionate about what they do.
Accepted, there are a a few bad apples in the plod, as there are in every organisation without exception - but your post is, IMO, a world away from reality.
Have you, by any chance, had a bad experience with the law? ;D
jamesv6cdx Thanx for your own opinion. It is not surprising that it is different from mine and probably the vast majority of others too but it does not bother me because we all have our own opinions in life. Just to answer your rather rude and insulting question :'(NO I have not had a run in with them myself but many of my friends have. I have been bullied by them though because they believe that they own the road. They can be as cheeky, arrogant, insulting insolent and foul mouthed as they like to you but will arrest you if you dare so much as to blink at them. But just to be fair I have also been treated respectfully by a small number of them too. I stress that they were in the minority though!!!!!!!!!
My respect for you has now been diminished because in my opinion you appear to have the same attitude as the bad plods.
At the end of the day they are no more important than the other blue light services and entered the job knowing its risks. I suspect also that many also enter the job because of the power over others it would give them! Just how many bad apples are there? More than you may think looking at the other members responses and comments.
Will there be any further abuse of power? Of course there will and we all know it. ;)
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the pratts in the ploddy car were though. ;D
Typical of the know it all plods!
Rules and common courtesy do not apply to them
probably why we all near on hate them.
excessive underworked for wages anyway.
W*ankers all, at least the greatest majority of them.....
could it be their tea was getting cold
or were they on their way to give some poor sod a kicking? :D ;)
Strictly as a matter of personal opinion... I can't remember the last time I saw so much generalised, biased bull$hit in one post ;D
As H21, myself and many others have said on this forum countless times, the majority of plod are hard working dedicated people, who are actually passionate about what they do.
Accepted, there are a a few bad apples in the plod, as there are in every organisation without exception - but your post is, IMO, a world away from reality.
Have you, by any chance, had a bad experience with the law? ;D
jamesv6cdx Thanx for your own opinion. It is not surprising that it is different from mine and probably the vast majority of others too but it does not bother me because we all have our own opinions in life. Just to answer your rather rude and insulting question :'(NO I have not had a run in with them myself but many of my friends have. I have been bullied by them though because they believe that they own the road. They can be as cheeky, arrogant, insulting insolent and foul mouthed as they like to you but will arrest you if you dare so much as to blink at them. But just to be fair I have also been treated respectfully by a small number of them too. I stress that they were in the minority though!!!!!!!!!
My respect for you has now been diminished because in my opinion you appear to have the same attitude as the bad plods.
At the end of the day they are no more important than the other blue light services and entered the job knowing its risks. I suspect also that many also enter the job because of the power over others it would give them! Just how many bad apples are there? More than you may think looking at the other members responses and comments.
Will there be any further abuse of power? Of course there will and we all know it. ;)
Sorry James, but I have to agree! You twisted what I had written in a previous post to 'incriminate' me, showing your police colours and you wonder at people's attitudes. >:(
And before you twist again, I'm only commenting from my experience of those I've had dealings with.
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will arrest you if you dare so much as to blink at them.
If you really believe this, I really don't think it's worth anyone's time on here to hold any further sensible discussions with you on the subject.
As you say, people hold different views, some of which are obtained through what they see / perceive / hear from friends - and some from direct personal experience.
My respect for you has now been diminished
Given that your opening post branded thousands of people you've never met "w....ers".. I didn't think you had any in the first place.
I doubt anyone will lose any sleep ;)
How many of us have had the job of going and knocking a door and telling the person who opens it that someone wont ever be coming home
Yes, I have done this once, alone, in November last year. It was one of the most difficult things I've done, but at the same time, very rewarding, having come away knowing I treated the person concerned with utmost respect and dealt with it in the best way I possibly could. The biggest surprise to me, was how long I was actually in there for.
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LJay - I apologise if you think my post was incriminating you.
This wasn't the intention, it was simply an opinion expressed off the back of something you wrote :y
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my son had a brand new jacket i bought for his birthday, cost was £95. he was stopped by non whites whos culture is crime, threatened and made to hand his coat over, they were arrested. there version of the storywas my son went up to them give him his coat and walked off. we wrote to the police complaints and they did break all and upheld the police officers desicion. now if was the other way round it would of been a rascist attack and robbery.
the police in my opinion bully and intimidate the weak and vulnerable and fear the criminals
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Always a subject to invoke heated discussion! ::)
The way I see it is that whatever your views, without the police force there would be a complete breakdown in law and order and anarchy on the streets - we need them, end of!
As already said a few times, in all elements of life there will be good and bad and that's something I'm afraid we have to live with.
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Crickey!
What ave i started here. I neither hate em or love em realy not having much to do with them in the past apart from a couple of bumps, one a wing mirror and the other a truck ran me off the road which bu**ard up my wheel etc. Nothing came of either incident though. That could have been the fault of the CPS saying 'not enough evidence'.
In the incident first written about. I just felt trapped i couldn't go to either side nor forward and my omega do's many things but just will not go upwards, And the centre rear headrest is now happily living in the boot.
I just felt for some reason an idiot for not being able to do what i should have been able to do. On thinking about it they should have been shouting at the tit blocking the roundabout and bringing the traffic to a stand still. I thought that was illegal anyway.
If i get picked on I'll let you know fellas
I might even throw a halfe eaten jam sandwich through thier open window if i happen to see them again. I may let the missus chuck it, I would like to see em arrest her, She'll talk em to death. ;D ;D
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i have to agree with h21. people are knocking the police from there own personal experiences,and what they have read in papers there is good and bad in all people. we pick up on the bad things so quick but fail to notice most of the time that the good people do. but dont forget the social workers who fail on the publice more than anyone in my opinion , paramedics who wont help people cause they are on there break, doctors, nurses. judges who fail to detain the most dangerous criminals, rapists and paedophiles. you could go on and on. i apologise for my comments as i am speaking from my own personal experiences
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Why apologise Richie??? Your opinion is your own as all those who post have their own too and no-one has the right to make you feel guilty over it. BigBrother does not yet rule this land although there are certain people who think they do. Names need not be mentioned but their posts tell us who they are.
Most likely they have their olfactory organ too close to the exhausts of the baddies :P
No m8, if you have a point to make or an opinion to give it is still a free country with Freedom of Speech.
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Crickey!
What ave i started here. I neither hate em or love em realy not having much to do with them in the past apart from a couple of bumps, one a wing mirror and the other a truck ran me off the road which bu**ard up my wheel etc. Nothing came of either incident though. That could have been the fault of the CPS saying 'not enough evidence'.
In the incident first written about. I just felt trapped i couldn't go to either side nor forward and my omega do's many things but just will not go upwards, And the centre rear headrest is now happily living in the boot.
I just felt for some reason an idiot for not being able to do what i should have been able to do. On thinking about it they should have been shouting at the tit blocking the roundabout and bringing the traffic to a stand still. I thought that was illegal anyway.
If i get picked on I'll let you know fellas
I might even throw a halfe eaten jam sandwich through thier open window if i happen to see them again. I may let the missus chuck it, I would like to see em arrest her, She'll talk em to death. ;D ;D
HoHo, ;) All you did m8 was to air an opinion that it looks lkike many of us agree with and some not. That is the spirit of this discussion page and long may it continue to be as contentious as this subject. It certainly makes the reading interesting.....
Pity it clearly upsets some but who cares.. if they don't like it :'( they don't have to read it do they?
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Got any more that you can start? :y
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Why apologise???? Your opinion is your own as all those who post have their own too and no-one has the right to make you feel guilty over it. BigBrother does not yet rule this land although there are certain members who think they do. Names need not be mentioned but their posts tell us who they are.
No m8, if you have a point to make or an opinion to give it is still a free country with Freedom of Speech.
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i have had to do a lot of hard thinking the last 4 weeks due to ill health i have suffered over the last yr and a half. i have offended many people with my views which i would not normally do. especially on a car forum where people come on here for advice and to help others. i do not think it is fair that because of the minority who are bad others should feel bad because of this. certain topics do express anger and resentment. we all like to blow a fuse now and then but there is a limit as to how far you should express your feelings on a public forum or any social networking site.
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I have to go by my own experiences. Personally, despite a fair few dealings with the police, both professionally and personally, I think the vast majority are decent folk, earning a crust like the rest of us. There will be the odd bad egg, as recent events have shown.
I'll be honest, we have a Hobby Bobby around these parts who is a bit of a tit, power and all that, but he does a useful job of just being there come kicking out time. Can't be easy.
In all walks of life, apart from the arrogant tossers who exist in all societys, if you treat people as you would like to be treated, and be prepared for others to make mistakes (we all do), then a lot of these confrontations will be little more than pleasant chats.
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Yep :y, TheBoy has hit the nail on the head and maybe, just maybe those members who believe they were insulted or were offended or just had a different opinion should take note and reign their comments in a bit.
Obviously if you cannot name names because the names are 'hidden' by the establishment and rules of secrecy or data protection then the comments and such like have by nature to be generalised ones.
It is a pity that occassionally some just jump on the forum soapbox for a ego massaging attention and spoil the debate for the rest. No wonder a tiny minority who are not forum administrators or moderators have so many posts credited to them. Their massive number of posts does not necessarily prove a large knowledge, only a desire to be heard and noticed and that is sad :'(
Lets all get back to normality and the way the forums used to be. Lighthearted and interesting. A personal opinion is just that, a personal opinion and until the other person knows the history of the other then they cannot comment with any basis on fact.
We are all equalls on the forums (aren't we?) so let that be the rule again......and stop the personalised attacks on named members which a few now seem to make it their obligation to. ;)
::)Question! (Moderators posts excluded)
Does the number of posts indicate a reliable and wise knowledge or just a need to be noticed?
If its the latter then they should get a life ;D ;D ;D ;D
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::)Question! (Moderators posts excluded)
Does the number of posts indicate a reliable and wise knowledge or just a need to be noticed?
If its the latter then they should get a life ;D ;D ;D ;D
Or perhaps that they are just active members of the forum and have been for some time ;)
Anyway... As you said, there is no need for personal attacks. I have had to deal with the police a lot in the past (in a work capacity) at a variety of vehicle related incidents ranging from a stolen moped to a car used as a murder weapon :o I have also been stopped by them plenty of times, which is inevitable when you drive for a living, and have always treated them politely and with respect. It has served me well as on more than one occasion the officer has used some common sense and given me a "telling off" instead of a ticket :y (That includes at least one 3 figure speed stop in the middle of the night :o)
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getting back to the op, i believe that any emergency vehicle displaying blues and twos CAN NOT force or bully an other vehicle to cross a stop line a a set of red lights and should turn off siren /two tones until the lights change or the vehicle in front can move out of the way without contravening the highway code/road traffic act
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Had a chat with a traffic copper I know about this thread last night.
Apparently the word is that they can use "blues and two's" if they are on "official business"
When I asked him if that means whenever they wear the uniform, he just smiled and said it was a perk of the job but some of the younger ( less experienced ) coppers take it to the extreem ::) ::)
He also said that under NO circumstances should you put your self or car in a dangerious situation regardless of who is behind you.
If you do then its YOU who is comiting the offence.
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getting back to the op, i believe that any emergency vehicle displaying blues and twos CAN NOT force or bully an other vehicle to cross a stop line a a set of red lights and should turn off siren /two tones until the lights change or the vehicle in front can move out of the way without contravening the highway code/road traffic act
Common sense has to prevail.
If the copper behind has all his gadgets on, then we must assume its an emergency call, not breakfast time. Thats not really open for debate. I'm sure we have all heard stories from a stranger down the pub who's mum's dog's sisters owner's brother's wife heard from another bloke in the pub that a copper used blues and twos to fetch doughnuts. But we have to take it on face value that its an emergency.
Based on that, if it is safe to jump (completely, or just edge forward enough) the lights, then I think it would be unfortunate to get stopped for that - I certainly never have, even if I've had to stop traffic coming around the roundabout (who would have had to stop for police anyway). In return, if there is sod all I can do, I expect the police not to force me out of the way (not to say turn siren off though - maybe the person in front of me needs to move).
But, it seems we will never get everyone to agree, either due to a local bad apple plod, a 3rd hand story from the bloke in the pub, an incorrect attitude towards authority or a host of other reasons. So I'm locking, as this thread is going nowhere constructive. If you have a problem with that, feel free to send me a PM, rather than start a tedious 'lets analyse that locked thread' type thread.