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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: redelitev6 on 23 July 2011, 17:41:50
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:( looks like the drugs finally caught up with her :(
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After Norway - case of so?
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cant say i have much sympathy. was sick of hearing about her and that tosser blake nonentity in the papers.
just heard one "commentator" describe her death as the biggest tragedy of her generation! wtf!, she had one half decent album!! >:(
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A tragic waste of a young life, and a terrible waste of a genuine talent imo. I didnt particularily like her music, but she was way above the usual dross in todays music in terms of talent.
These young kids who get rich and famous very quickly are just cash cows for the music business, and then the drug pushing parasites latch onto them when they start to lose their way and tempt them with their clever "sales techniques". They then bleed them dry by swapping little bags of chemicals for their recently acquired fortunes - a little at a time.When they have finally killed them, they just move along to the next young,fresh faced naive customer.
I know that many years ago when Eric Clapton did a fair bit of coke, his dealer refused to sell him coke unless he bought Heroin with it.So he ended up with a big cupboard full of the stuff.Eventually, when he felt at a low ebb, he tried it and was of course, very soon a hopeless addict.Then spent all his money with the same dealer, to feed the habit.
Personally I would have gas chambers for the dealers. >:( >:( >:(
Its easy to dismiss it as just another self indulgent spoilt brat who should have known better, but she was already in serious trouble with drugs by the time she was out of her teens.Just an impressionable kid really.
There but for the grace of god go any of our young daughters :'(
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Sorry to be harsh.....but its hardly a surprise, you cant live like that and expect to last long :'(
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Should've gone to rehab
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Should've gone to rehab
She said "no no no"
Serves the stupid bint right. One more less.
I'm not at all sympathetic with the rich & famous with their problems.
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Well I think her music was fantastic.
God Bless you Amy x x
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great voice but she was just beyond help if you ask me, downing a bottle of vodka on the way to rehab is not the way forward, and knocking about with low life scum like pete docherty and blake fielder civil is not going to help you get through drug dependency which was destroying her mind and body.
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Its always sad news when any young talented person looses their life :'(
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tis extremely sad, as others have said she did have a fantastic voice!! IP,
however small item in the news London drug dealers have now applied for bankrupt status ::) ;D
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Well I think her music was fantastic.
God Bless you Amy x x
Agree with you Daz :y
R.I.P. Amy
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Sorry no sympathy here. She did little for anyone in this world.
And in the words of Good Charlotte.
only see it on tv
read it in the magazines
celebrities that want sympathy
all they do is piss and moan
inside the rolling stone
talking about how hard life can be
Id like to see them spend the week
livin life out on the street
I dont think they would survive
but they could spend a day or two
walking in someone elses shoes
I think they'd stumble and they'd fall
they would fall
Fall
Lifestlyes of the rich and the famous
theyre always complainin
always complainin
if money is such a problem
well they got mansions
think we should rob them
well did you know when your famous you could kill your wife
and theres no such thing as 25 to life
as long as you got the cash to pay for cochran
and did you know if you were cought and you were smokin crack
and McDonald's wouldnt even wanna take you back
you could always just run for mayor of D.C.
Id like to see them spend the week
livin life out on the street
I dont think they would survive
but they could spend a day or two
walking in someone elses shoes
I think they'd stumble and they'd fall
they would fall
Lifestlyes of the rich and the famous
theyre always complainin
always complainin
if money is such a problem
well they got mansions
think we should rob them
Fall
Lifestlyes of the rich and the famous
theyre always complainin
always complainin
if money is such a problem
you got so many problems
think I could solve them
Lifestlyes of the rich and the famous
we'll take your clothes, cash cards, and homes
just stop complaining
Lifestlyes of the rich and the famous
Lifestlyes of the rich and the famous
Lifestlyes of the rich and the famous
Or f you would rather listen [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-jC3H_8Dk4&ob=av3n[/media]
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Despite all her problems, she was someone's daughter. What ever problems any of our kids might have, we'd be devastated if they died, especially under similar circumstances.
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Despite all her problems, she was someone's daughter. What ever problems any of our kids might have, we'd be devastated if they died, especially under similar circumstances.
......and people seem to dismiss that fact when passing comment :-X
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Agreed.I just hope those that are making these comments never have to face the samesituation with their daughter (or son).
Theres a lot of it about these days, and it can easiy happen to any family.
The fact that she was famous doesnt change a thing, apart from young famous people are like a magnet for drug dealing scum, who prey on them when they are young,vulnerable and lacking in the necassary life experience to see through these parasites.
Gas the dealers.
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Tragic. I never liked most of her music but as so rightly pointed out, she is someones daughter/relative. Rest in peace.
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It is indeed a tragedy. Not just for her family, but for the many youngsters who enjoy her music. 27 is far too young to leave. :(
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I have no experience of crack cocaine but know it to be highly addictive & equally destructive. I spent my teens/early 20's enjoying the drug scene, grass/resin, powders & pills etc. Never jabbed anything but 3 or 4 times in a week i "chased" heroin. It was great but i soon realized i was really looking forward to the next one more than anything else so nipped in the bud there & then & never again. Totally drug free for donkeys years now & don't miss them a bit. Point is i've been there. Those who hav'nt (which is no bad thing) should'nt be too harsh on her. I've seen her Dad whose a cabbie so an every day bloke on previous interviews & feel for him.
Her music was'nt to my taste but her voice & style were unique unlike much of the manufactured pap that passes for music today.
Yes she was a silly girl surrounded by idiots who did'nt warrant thier own existance. This once again goes to show drugs are'nt selective, take no prisoners & don't recognize class or wealth.
Where else can a millionaire be in the gutter? :'(
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Sorry 80 odd teenagers in Norway takes precidence
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Sorry 80 odd teenagers in Norway takes precidence
Of course it does but they are two seperate topics.
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Sorry 80 odd teenagers in Norway takes precidence
Its not a competition, sympathy for one doesnt exclude the other. ;)
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Sorry 80 odd teenagers in Norway takes precidence
Such comparisons are odious.
I am sad at the loss of life in Norway. I am sad that Amy Winehouse has lost her life. Why compare the two? :-?
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Yeah well life is precious, and not to be wasted away. Unfortunately as we all know, many people either get a shit shot at life or not one at all. Nothing against her, although I didn't like her music, it's ridiculous the amount of news coverage it's getting. Police standing in the street on their airwave mobiles for the cameras benefit. What's all that about? I bet it'd be a bit different if it was a jobless unknown from a no-town. She's an intelligent person but has wasted the most important thing she's had, the fact she's someones daughter is irrelevant. I reserve my sympathy and compassion for people who deserve it.
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Yeah well life is precious, and not to be wasted away. Unfortunately as we all know, many people either get a shit shot at life or not one at all. Nothing against her, although I didn't like her music, it's ridiculous the amount of news coverage it's getting. Police standing in the street on their airwave mobiles for the cameras benefit. What's all that about? I bet it'd be a bit different if it was a jobless unknown from a no-town. She's an intelligent person but has wasted the most important thing she's had, the fact she's someones daughter is irrelevant. I reserve my sympathy and compassion for people who deserve it.
I hope none of your family ever gets addicted to drugs. ::)
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Yeah well life is precious, and not to be wasted away. Unfortunately as we all know, many people either get a shit shot at life or not one at all. Nothing against her, although I didn't like her music, it's ridiculous the amount of news coverage it's getting. Police standing in the street on their airwave mobiles for the cameras benefit. What's all that about? I bet it'd be a bit different if it was a jobless unknown from a no-town. She's an intelligent person but has wasted the most important thing she's had, the fact she's someones daughter is irrelevant. I reserve my sympathy and compassion for people who deserve it.
I agree with everything you say except the fact she is some one's daughter is irelevant.
Try telling her Dad that.
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I agree two topics not the same the only thing one was Innocent killed by a mad man, And the other killed by the pressure of fame and all that comes with it,
:-[ :-[
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My family is irrelevant also, but no one in my family would become addicted to drugs. They're not stupid enough.
We're all someones daughter or son. It changes nothing. It doesn't make it any less bad that she's wasted her life and body. But it's her waste. That's not me being nasty, that's just the way it is. There are countless people past and present who haven't been born with the things she, and many of us take for granted.
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The only ones I feel sorry for are her family. I'm not a hypocrite, I didn't like her when she was alive and I'm not gonna say I like her now. She was a high profile figure that youngsters looked up to. She was a disgrace to her profession.
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My family is irrelevant also, but no one in my family would become addicted to drugs. They're not stupid enough. We're all someones daughter or son. It changes nothing. It doesn't make it any less bad that she's wasted her life and body. But it's her waste. That's not me being nasty, that's just the way it is. There are countless people past and present who haven't been born with the things she, and many of us take for granted.
I hope you never have to live to regret those words Geoff. Addiction is nothing whatsoever to do with stupidity, there have been very many clever people - geniuses even, who have succumbed to addiction.Its almost always a combination of factors and circumstances which produce an addict - whether the addiction is to drugs,alcohol,nicotine,gambling, or anything else - it always starts with someone with a particular vulnerability being in the wrong place at the wrong time. ;)
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It's got to be some sort of deficiency or weakness. Unless you're retarded, everyone now knows the effects of drug/alcohol/cigarette addiction.
If someone really wants to change their life, to give up something, I mean really want to (not some superficial cliche crap they talk about on a whim), they will. If might be hard, harder than saying "I want to give it up". But that's willpower.
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We all have our deficencies and weaknesses.None of us are perfect. ;)
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We all have our deficencies and weaknesses.None of us are perfect. ;)
............except idiots ;)
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It's got to be some sort of deficiency or weakness. Unless you're retarded, everyone now knows the effects of drug/alcohol/cigarette addiction.
Says the man who never touches any of the above, presumably? Because we all flirt with something that can become the death of us. Nothing to do with being "retarded", just a subtlety in the wiring that turns an occasional pleasure into a trip to the morgue..
I must say, I never cared for her music, but 27 is way too early to go.. :(
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They tried to give her air and cpr, she said no, n..........................bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep (ok, thats my joke)
In all honesty, its a loss to music as she had a unique voice and ill admit, her first few songs i play very often.
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I wasn't her biggest fan by a long way, but I must say that going on some of the comments and jokes, there are a few here that are not familiar with the phrase 'if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all'. :(
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Very talented musician and very sad she couldn't cope with her fame.
I feel very, very sorry for her family, as anybody who has lost a child knows, it is the very worst day of your life. Most problems in life can be solved, but there is no going back from a death. :'(
We all expect our children to bury us, not the other way around.
RIP
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Sorry she had to learn the hard way but what else was to be expected with her choice of lifestyle?
Everything in life has a cost and she chose to have the wrong things thats all.....
Sorry, but no pity from here.......... ;)
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think gina yashere summed it up in her tweet
I might get death threats, but opps it-To squander the opportunities that are afforded u, is a disrespect 2 urself, the fans, and all the other talented individuals that are never gonna get those same opportunities...
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I see what most of you are saying, but she also kept the wrong company. When your in so deep it is a struggle to get out. :'(
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Having just read through this thread I am left feeling saddened. Not by the fact that AW has died, although 27 is far too young to pass and leave a family behind! But because, IMO, the general OOF membership profile has changed so much :o It's amazing how many perfect people there are on here now who never touch any form of drug (alcohol, cigerettes included), prescription drug, or break the law (and yes, speeding is breaking the law ;)) in any way :-X :-X It makes me wonder if I should be spending as much of my time here any more :-/
RIP Amy x You may not have been an angel but you didn't deserve to die at 27!
Thoughts and deepest sympathies to her parents, who's biggest fear has been realised :'(
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My Brother in Law is addicted a Morphin, which had to start taking after his Back Operation. In fact the Morphin is apparently not stopping his suffering as it did because his body is now used to it.
Rather an upsetting thing being honest to see him like that. :'(
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no one deserves to die at that young age :'( :(
she cancelled the concert in Istanbul I remember.. and I tought "she is going downhill"..
whatever her problems were , as I cant guess, nothing is worth to kill yourself..
bah.. capitalists system give her too much money at that age and no aim for life..classic >:(
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But because, IMO, the general OOF membership profile has changed so much :o It's amazing how many perfect people there are on here .......... It makes me wonder if I should be spending as much of my time here any more :-/ .....
Thaks for summing up exactly what I was thinking last night as I read some of the quotes here about being weak etc
I can't imagine what her family is feeling like this morning. :'(
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My Brother in Law is addicted a Morphin, which had to start taking after his Back Operation. In fact the Morphin is apparently not stopping his suffering as it did because his body is now used to it.
Rather an upsetting thing being honest to see him like that. :'(
i had the same with tramadil. was taking so much for the pain in my back i was doing more damage to my kidneys resulting in hospitalisation in january. you really dont see the problem most of the time until its too late.
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But because, IMO, the general OOF membership profile has changed so much :o It's amazing how many perfect people there are on here .......... It makes me wonder if I should be spending as much of my time here any more :-/ .....
Thaks for summing up exactly what I was thinking last night as I read some of the quotes here about being weak etc
I can't imagine what her family is feeling like this morning. :'(
I haven't been here as long as both of you but I agree with what you are saying :(
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tbh no sympathy here,yes i feel for her parents but its a good example to kids of what drugs do to you only she could afford to do it on a larger scale hence shes gone to meet our maker
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We all have our deficencies and weaknesses.None of us are perfect. ;)
............except idiots ;)
Resort to veiled insults why don't you. Why not say it to me?
It's a downright disgrace what she's done actually. Wasted her health. How do you think a terminally ill kid would feel about that if they could understand? "mam I've got cancer and I'm going to die but I really don't want to, so why has Amy whinehouse wasted her life?"
I take back everything I said about her, she's a really crack-in lass, a modern day heroine! She had a great deal of torment in her life, caught between a rock and a hard place, but couldn't keep it
under wraps!
Bring back Michael Jackson!
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We all have our deficencies and weaknesses.None of us are perfect. ;)
............except idiots ;)
Resort to veiled insults why don't you. Why not say it to me?
It's a downright disgrace what she's done actually. Wasted her health. How do you think a terminally ill kid would feel about that if they could understand? "mam I've got cancer and I'm going to die but I really don't want to, so why has Amy whinehouse wasted her life?"
I take back everything I said about her, she's a really crack-in lass, a modern day heroine! She had a great deal of torment in her life, caught between a rock and a hard place, but couldn't keep it
under wraps!
Bring back Michael Jackson!
Are you joking? He was a bigger drug taker than AW!
Quite frankly Geoff, I think you're being an insenitive "thing" (because I can't say what I really think without getting banned ::)) and find your attitude sickening! I hope you never have to experience the loss of a child. >:( >:( >:(
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Having read some the posts here which are directed at me, I didn't say I don't touch certain chemicals such as alcohol, I just am not addicted. Far from it. I respect the greatest thing I will ever own far too much for that.
And why is it bad, or nasty to say she is/was weak? It's a fact, not a judgement.
I see the usual bunch are ganging up when someone dares express an opinion that is outside the mainstream.
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I can have the strongest and hottest of debates without resorting to personal insults. But thanks for being frank LD, but it is AW who should've spoke to Frank.
Why is my attitude sickening then? Because we disagree and that I don't have any sympathy for her?
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My family is irrelevant also, but no one in my family would become addicted to drugs. They're not stupid enough.
We're all someones daughter or son. It changes nothing. It doesn't make it any less bad that she's wasted her life and body. But it's her waste. That's not me being nasty, that's just the way it is. There are countless people past and present who haven't been born with the things she, and many of us take for granted.
It is the amount of sympathy for a druggie compared to the lack of comments about the massacre in Norway the train crash in China, sorry but she killed herself and the others were tragidies
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I feel for her family but Winehouse herself - no
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I can have the strongest and hottest of debates without resorting to personal insults. But thanks for being frank LD, but it is AW who should've spoke to Frank.
Why is my attitude sickening then? Because we disagree and that I don't have any sympathy for her?
Not the lack of sympaty for her... No issue with that whatsoever. It's your total lack of sympathy and compassion for her family and your general attitude that "she got what she deserved"
No comments about MJ though ::)
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It's getting like the Jade Goodie thread all over again.
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Hmmmm. I too am on high levels of Morhine patches to control pain but I have not been tempted to act like I had completely lost the plot. No, that comes with the way you have or have no respect for yourself and those who care about you. Obviously her greed for fame outstripped her conscience because she could always have said NO. Anyway was she not breaking out of rehab and doing her own thing every time she got the urge to enter herself into rehab with full publicity.
Was this yet another publicity orientated 'cry for help' again that had gone wrong? Probably going on her past history....
Anyway.... It is the people of Norway who deserve our sympathy. MH abused her talent and did nothing to help herself.
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I can have the strongest and hottest of debates without resorting to personal insults. But thanks for being frank LD, but it is AW who should've spoke to Frank.
Why is my attitude sickening then? Because we disagree and that I don't have any sympathy for her?
Not the lack of sympaty for her... No issue with that whatsoever. It's your total lack of sympathy and compassion for her family and your general attitude that "she got what she deserved"
No comments about MJ though ::)
Who are you to judge me on whether or not I have sympathy or compassion? Who said I have no sympathy or compassion for her family? It must've been you because it wasn't me. Surely if they cared about her that much they would've done a bit more to look after her.
You also assume that I think "she got what she deserved". Who said this? Not me either, so it must've been you.
Her death is her own fault, her mistakes. We all make mistakes, but the smallest and most innocent of mistakes can have massive consequences. You might not deserve those consequences, but it's still your fault. Simple.
Beginning to think the whole drug carry on with her was a staged publicity stunt, then it got out of control, now she's dead. I'll be glad when it's off the news and we get more newsworthy items on.
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We've all passed comments on her death, myself included.
We all live our lives to a certain degree the way we choose, she chose the life she lived & knew that one day it would kill her. No one put her arm behind her back & said snort/take this. That is why i have no sympathy at all.
As another member has stated, she was also someone that young people look up & so should set an example.
We all live & die, what we choose to do between the two times is ours.
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What is it about being aged 27 ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27_Club
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OK I suppose I am one of those being targeted as a person with no feelings etc.
I don't mind that, It was only about a week ago people where saying there where not enough discussions/arguments. Well when there is, people complain.
I would just say if this was a 27 year old bloke who was not famous I doubt anyone would care at all.
I do totally agree that it is terrible for her family, and if I offended them I apologise. I do not apologise for any comments about her.
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It was inevitably the case that with this young woman that it was 'when' and not 'if'.....
Perhaps she could have steered herself through an alternate course but, pop life and superstar status/lifestyle being what it is, well..... :-/
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interesting bird was amy, but imo nothing more than an average singer.
as for her death. well how long have her drug/alcohol binges been in the papers? sorry for the family but purely self inflicted.
not a waste of a talent but a waste of a whole life. happens to loads though
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I see what most of you are saying, but she also kept the wrong company. When your in so deep it is a struggle to get out. :'(
Nail on the head Daz! If she hadn't got mixed up with that idiot Blake I don't think she would have ended up like she was. She had the money and he supplied the drugs and got her on the slippery slope.
I watched a tribute show on one of the music channels at the weekend and she looked soooo much better in her earlier days, especially without the tatoo's and stupid hairstyle.