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Title: Car Tax
Post by: griffin on 21 July 2011, 17:36:56
Hi Guys

This ones for the legal eagles amongst us.  I've had conflicting answer to this question I need your opinions?

If I tax my car online and print off the receipt am I legal to drive the car on the public highway before the disc arrives?

Simple as?

TIA
Title: Re: Car Tax
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 21 July 2011, 17:41:05
Taken from the Directgov web site .....http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10021514

If you use the electronic vehicle licensing service or tax by post at the end of the month, there’s now an exemption for not displaying a tax disc. This exemption covers the first five working days of the month to allow time for the new disc to arrive in the post. While you are still waiting for your tax disc you will need to display your current tax disc. The exemption only applies if applications are made before the current tax disc or SORN expires.
Title: Re: Car Tax
Post by: Richie London on 21 July 2011, 17:43:35
i find it easier going to the post office, you know you have it then.
Title: Re: Car Tax
Post by: SJKOO01 on 21 July 2011, 17:45:35
This is the extract from the 'Common Questions' page.

"Will I get confirmation that I have applied for a tax disc?

If you apply for a tax disc on our website, the Confirmation page can be printed and used as confirmation. Also, if you provide your email address on the website you will receive an email confirmation of the transaction.

If you apply for a tax disc over the phone, the reference number for the transaction will be given to you".

If you have a confirmation email, suggest you print it off and keep it on your persons, then if you do get pulled you can show them that.  As it should have a receipt reference number which the Police can always confirm with DVLA if they want to?

Hope that helps?

 :y
Title: Re: Car Tax
Post by: griffin on 21 July 2011, 17:50:34
Thanks guys appreciate your help!

I know that the ANPR wont pick me up its just these days traffic wardens report you if you dont show a valid tax disc as they prowl around.

 :D
Title: Re: Car Tax
Post by: TheBoy on 21 July 2011, 18:09:59
Right, definative, unlike most of the 'dangle berries' above...

It is an offence to have the car on a public highway without displaying the tax disc.

The one and only exception is if you purchase a replacement BEFORE your old one expires via internet or phone, you have 5 days grace.


ie, the only time the car can be on the road without a tax disc is if you purchased tax online/phone before 1st (and whilst your old tax was still valid), you can drive from 1st to 5th without displaying it.
Title: Re: Car Tax
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 21 July 2011, 18:14:20
The one and only exception is if you purchase a replacement BEFORE your old one expires via internet or phone, you have 5 days grace.


ie, the only time the car can be on the road without a tax disc is if you purchased tax online/phone before 1st (and whilst your old tax was still valid), you can drive from 1st to 5th without displaying it.


Erm, I think that's what I said in my post???  ;D
Title: Re: Car Tax
Post by: Richie London on 21 July 2011, 18:14:54
the only reason i can see for renewing it online is people cant be bothered to go to the post office.
Title: Re: Car Tax
Post by: STMO123 on 21 July 2011, 18:28:39
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the only reason i can see for renewing it online is people cant be bothered to go to the post office.


Yes Richie. I would much rather stand for an hour behind people collecting their benefit, sending large parcels to Australia, paying their gas bills...oh...and two first class stamps please, while their snotty nosed brats demand sweets from the corner of most post offices that sell a small selection of crap.

Don't want to be sitting at home pressing all those keys. No sir.
Title: Re: Car Tax
Post by: Richie London on 21 July 2011, 19:27:50
ive never had to que up at the post office, as long as you dont get there for opening time cause all the coffin dodgers are there at 7am waiting for it to open.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Car Tax
Post by: tidla on 21 July 2011, 19:42:51
you forgot the unforgettable aromas such as the smell of whizz and ralgex ..
Title: Re: Car Tax
Post by: omegod on 21 July 2011, 19:47:28
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Right, definative, unlike most of the 'dangle berries' above...

It is an offence to have the car on a public highway without displaying the tax disc.

The one and only exception is if you purchase a replacement BEFORE your old one expires via internet or phone, you have 5 days grace.


ie, the only time the car can be on the road without a tax disc is if you purchased tax online/phone before 1st (and whilst your old tax was still valid), you can drive from 1st to 5th without displaying it.

Actually you can also drive an untaxed car to and from a VOSA station for a VIC check  ;)
Title: Re: Car Tax
Post by: TheBoy on 21 July 2011, 19:58:09
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ive never had to que up at the post office, as long as you dont get there for opening time cause all the coffin dodgers are there at 7am waiting for it to open.  ;D ;D ;D
You are lucky you don't have to go to Bletchley Post Office then.  Bletchley is a special kind of place, full of fat old slags, 15yrs old, 4 kids, you get the picture.  I was in the postoffice the other day there, it was queuing out the door, they had one till open. I got served eventually, then she closed her till. Yes, leave NONE open, yet still queuing out the door.  It was not closing time, it was around lunchtime.

Thus, I always get it online, saves digging out the MOT and insurance certs.
Title: Re: Car Tax
Post by: Vamps on 21 July 2011, 20:40:16
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the only reason i can see for renewing it online is people cant be bothered to go to the post office.

Oi, I resemble that remark..... :P :P which reminds me, I must tax my car, which I might do from the comfort of my living room later.... :D :D :D
Title: Re: Car Tax
Post by: Richie London on 21 July 2011, 22:01:23
I get the picture
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Car Tax
Post by: edwardmickey on 28 July 2011, 14:47:11
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ive never had to que up at the post office, as long as you dont get there for opening time cause all the coffin dodgers are there at 7am waiting for it to open.  ;D ;D ;D
You are lucky you don't have to go to Bletchley Post Office then.  Bletchley is a special kind of place, full of fat old slags, 15yrs old, 4 kids, you get the picture.  I was in the postoffice the other day there, it was queuing out the door, they had one till open. I got served eventually, then she closed her till. Yes, leave NONE open, yet still queuing out the door.  It was not closing time, it was around lunchtime.

Thus, I always get it online, saves digging out the MOT and insurance certs.


It's just as bad in Central Milton Keynes.  They have a ticket system of queueing.  Tends to be a half hour wait.  Meanwhile, I just take in the sights and aromas!  Surely, tax payers should get fast tracked to the front of the queue?  It would hardly make a difference to the rest of the people since I appear to be the only one paying anyway!
Title: Re: Car Tax
Post by: Kevin Wood on 28 July 2011, 15:03:31
I had a mate at university from Bletchley.

I once found him in the kitchen looking puzzled, holding a box with a frozen pie in it. I turned the box over to reveal the cooking instructions and it was like a light turned on inside his head.. Until he asked how you "pre-heat" an oven. ::)

He once took offence at a newspaper article that referred to it as the "sad little town of Bletchley". ;D
Title: Re: Car Tax
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 28 July 2011, 16:01:19
An old neighbour (student) of ours when we were at Uni was as bad, they rented a video recorder (granada used to do a student Tv and video package dead cheap using old life expired rental machines) and we convinced her that you didn't need to take the cassette out of the box to put it in the player as it was some super modern one, she spent hours trying to get it in!  ;D
Title: Re: Car Tax
Post by: Bionic on 28 July 2011, 16:20:35
YES, it is legal and you should have had a receipt that you could print off too.
I have done this every year and it never a problem because the fact that it is taxed shows up immediately on the ANPR thingy the bobby's use and also on the national database.
Just go on as normal...... :y
Title: Re: Car Tax
Post by: TheBoy on 28 July 2011, 19:01:24
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YES, it is legal and you should have had a receipt that you could print off too.
I have done this every year and it never a problem because the fact that it is taxed shows up immediately on the ANPR thingy the bobby's use and also on the national database.
Just go on as normal...... :y
No, it is not legal. The offence is 'failure to display a tax disc'.  The online exception being as specified earlier.  I don't give a rat's arse what you heard down the pub from your mates mothers brothers dogs cousins owner.

Anyone trying to say otherwise is wrong, and irresponsibly opening up members to possible prosecution by trying to make out it is fact.

Of course, whether you would get caught is a different matter, and I suspect you'd be suffering from your own attitude issues should the police take it further. But the law is quite clear on this. You must display a valid tax disc at all times the car is on the road, except in the very specific instance of ordering by phone/internet before your previous one ran out, and this exemption is only from 1st to 5th of the month. It matters not if you have bought one, or lost it, or had your homework chewed by the dog.

If you need a tax disc immediately, there are ways, such as local DVLA office.
Title: Re: Car Tax
Post by: TheBoy on 28 July 2011, 19:03:14
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I had a mate at university from Bletchley.

I once found him in the kitchen looking puzzled, holding a box with a frozen pie in it. I turned the box over to reveal the cooking instructions and it was like a light turned on inside his head.. Until he asked how you "pre-heat" an oven. ::)

He once took offence at a newspaper article that referred to it as the "sad little town of Bletchley". ;D
Is there a university here? Or is the that Open Uni?

Doubt Bletchley would allow anyone to enter its borders unless they were born in Bletchley or London, and had married their siblings...
Title: Re: Car Tax
Post by: Kevin Wood on 28 July 2011, 20:19:16
Oh, no! Don't be silly! The university wasn't in Bletchley. ;D





It was in Colchester. :-X
Title: Re: Car Tax
Post by: TheBoy on 28 July 2011, 21:46:32
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Oh, no! Don't be silly! The university wasn't in Bletchley. ;D





It was in Colchester. :-X
Ah, he was from Bletchley ;D.  How the hell did he get to Colchester, as thats off the MK grid :o