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Title: F1 on SKY
Post by: cleggy on 29 July 2011, 08:14:57
So we lose the full F1 programme on the BBC from next year. SKY SPORT will show all Practice, Qually, and the Races live, while BBC will show only half on the races live with the rest in a highlights format. >:( >:( >:(
I only use freeview so what is the cheapest way to get SKY SPORT, which I would only want for F1, and perhaps the TEST MATCHES 
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: Martin_1962 on 29 July 2011, 08:30:43
That is wrong >:( >:(

I am going to complain to the BBC and want a discount on my licence fee
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: mantahatch on 29 July 2011, 08:50:17
Well I do watch F1, but won't go out of my way to see it if you know what I mean.

If it will be on sky then I will not pay for it. I do have a rather basic sky package which I have slowly been reducing over a number of years.  I ain't gonna pay them more for F1 that's for sure.
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: saltyone on 29 July 2011, 08:59:27
The BBC will have highlights on TV, online and mobile for any race it it is not showing live .. i can live with that as some of the races can drag on a bit and i end up nodding off  :D. so highlights are not so bad and there is no way ill will be giving sky any of my hard earned  >:( :)
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: Martin_1962 on 29 July 2011, 09:21:31
Also I bet it will be on their football channels as well.

And also there is no Conditional Access Module if you have a decent sat box.

I wonder who will be live streaming?

Complaint is already on its way to BBC
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: Jimbob on 29 July 2011, 09:24:53
when the price goes up, what chance do the BBC have?

fixed income from the license fee.

would you pay an extra £20 a year on your tv license to postpone this for a bit.  Sky and the others just have to put the price up - easy for them, or show a few more adverts.

And then, what next, wimbledon etc?  another £20 a year for that? money only goes so far, they cant please everyone all the time.

I sure as hell dont want to pay for any sports - via bbc or sky, so why should I subsidse them for others?

I actually like the sky model for that - pay for what suits you.

Only the commercials really stand a chance in the open market.

Maybe the role of the BBC should be really reviewed  :-/
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: TheBoy on 29 July 2011, 10:03:14
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That is wrong >:( >:(

I am going to complain to the BBC and want a discount on my licence fee
I don't want to see MY licence fee wasted on the likes of Dr Who.  The fact I don't like that, would that entitle me to discount?



Personally, I'm glad the BBC has started to drop F1. I just hope they will go the whole hog soon ;).  The problem is, the BBC seem to think that viewers want more knobenders and reality shite.


For sports lovers, they have accepted they need sky now anyway.

The downside is the majority of people I know are now dropping Sky, and very few are signing up to it.  Maybe its the demographics of where I am, as Sky have announced some impressive results (not convinced they aren't entirely true though).


Now the beeb (esp BBC One)has chavved itself up for the stupid end of the intelligence spectrum, maybe its time to lose the licence fee, and let it stand on its own 2 feet with adverts/pay tv.
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: saltyone on 29 July 2011, 10:09:39
MBrundleF1Martin Brundle

BBC/Sky/F1 2012+. Found out last night, no idea how it will work yet I'm out of contract, will calmly work through options Not impressed   .......i bet hes not  ::)
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: bob.dent on 29 July 2011, 10:12:12
So yet another major sport goes to rather Sky >:( >:( This means the average man on the street no longer has access to any major sports on TV unless they stump up bucket loads of cash to line Murdoch's filthy pockets even more for the priviledge. Boxing, cricket, football etc. etc. and now F1, where will it end?? I refuse to pay a single penny to Sky as they're thieving barstewards as far as I'm concerned - even if you subscribe to Sky Sports, the tinkers still want to charge you even more by making many top sporting events pay-per-view. Bo11ocks.....I'm really hacked off now! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: Varche on 29 July 2011, 10:49:01
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So we lose the full F1 programme on the BBC from next year. SKY SPORT will show all Practice, Qually, and the Races live, while BBC will show only half on the races live with the rest in a highlights format. >:( >:( >:(
I only use freeview so what is the cheapest way to get SKY SPORT, which I would only want for F1, and perhaps the TEST MATCHES 

Which half? Start or finish. :o :o
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: bob.dent on 29 July 2011, 11:01:15
......and if you do stump up your hard earned to Sky, you get an unhealthy dose of adverts throughout the race as a bonus! >:(
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: Nickbat on 29 July 2011, 11:03:01
Ecclestone is the culprit, IMHO. He always said F1 would remain on free-to-air. Yeah, right, Bernie.  ::) ::) >:(

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/motorsport/2011/05/08/bernie-ecclestone-warns-selling-f1-to-sky-would-be-suicide-115875-23116514/
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: Martin_1962 on 29 July 2011, 11:25:48
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That is wrong >:( >:(

I am going to complain to the BBC and want a discount on my licence fee
I don't want to see MY licence fee wasted on the likes of Dr Who.  The fact I don't like that, would that entitle me to discount?



Personally, I'm glad the BBC has started to drop F1. I just hope they will go the whole hog soon ;).  The problem is, the BBC seem to think that viewers want more knobenders and reality shite.


For sports lovers, they have accepted they need sky now anyway.

The downside is the majority of people I know are now dropping Sky, and very few are signing up to it.  Maybe its the demographics of where I am, as Sky have announced some impressive results (not convinced they aren't entirely true though).


Now the beeb (esp BBC One)has chavved itself up for the stupid end of the intelligence spectrum, maybe its time to lose the licence fee, and let it stand on its own 2 feet with adverts/pay tv.


I think a large amount of BBC money goes on Knobenders and on over paid knobs like Graham Norton and the fat radio presenter.

I would rather they pay cutted such people down rather than drop F1
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: Martin_1962 on 29 July 2011, 11:28:40
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astra_19.2%C2%B0E

http://ilmiotempolibero.altervista.org/motorsport-free-on-sat-astra-19-2e-e-hb-13-00e-t718-30.html

All fully legal :y :y
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: bob.dent on 29 July 2011, 11:54:28
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astra_19.2%C2%B0E

http://ilmiotempolibero.altervista.org/motorsport-free-on-sat-astra-19-2e-e-hb-13-00e-t718-30.html

All fully legal :y :y

No good for Virgin subscribers like me though! :'(
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: Martin_1962 on 29 July 2011, 12:05:33
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astra_19.2%C2%B0E

http://ilmiotempolibero.altervista.org/motorsport-free-on-sat-astra-19-2e-e-hb-13-00e-t718-30.html

All fully legal :y :y

No good for Virgin subscribers like me though! :'(


Why not?

Can't you get a dish put up?
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: bob.dent on 29 July 2011, 12:27:38
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astra_19.2%C2%B0E

http://ilmiotempolibero.altervista.org/motorsport-free-on-sat-astra-19-2e-e-hb-13-00e-t718-30.html

All fully legal :y :y

No good for Virgin subscribers like me though! :'(


Why not?

Can't you get a dish put up?

As I live in a flat, individual dishes aren't permitted. The management company would probably allow a communal dish at the consent of all the flat owners but there's no point as we've all got cable. Apart from that, a dish would mean subscribing to Sky and that just ain't going to happen.
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: bob.dent on 29 July 2011, 12:30:27
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......and if you do stump up your hard earned to Sky, you get an unhealthy dose of adverts throughout the race as a bonus! >:(

Oh well........I got that one wrong. ::)
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93461
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: Martin_1962 on 29 July 2011, 13:13:11
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astra_19.2%C2%B0E

http://ilmiotempolibero.altervista.org/motorsport-free-on-sat-astra-19-2e-e-hb-13-00e-t718-30.html

All fully legal :y :y

No good for Virgin subscribers like me though! :'(


Why not?

Can't you get a dish put up?

As I live in a flat, individual dishes aren't permitted. The management company would probably allow a communal dish at the consent of all the flat owners but there's no point as we've all got cable. Apart from that, a dish would mean subscribing to Sky and that just ain't going to happen.


See if anyone else wants German TV on 19.2E (Not the Sky / Freesat cluster) :y
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: Varche on 29 July 2011, 15:31:35
I was a bit worried but I will have to watch it on Spanish Sexta TV (free) with the sound turned down and have UK radio commentary via the Internet. Sorted. :y
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: yatesDELTA on 29 July 2011, 15:54:46
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astra_19.2%C2%B0E

http://ilmiotempolibero.altervista.org/motorsport-free-on-sat-astra-19-2e-e-hb-13-00e-t718-30.html

All fully legal :y :y

Can you access this with a Sky box and Sky satelite dish?
I still have them both, after moving to Virgin a few months ago
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: Martin_1962 on 29 July 2011, 16:32:08
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astra_19.2%C2%B0E

http://ilmiotempolibero.altervista.org/motorsport-free-on-sat-astra-19-2e-e-hb-13-00e-t718-30.html

All fully legal :y :y

Can you access this with a Sky box and Sky satelite dish?
I still have them both, after moving to Virgin a few months ago

Dish yes, no idea on the box as they are pretty crippled
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: albitz on 29 July 2011, 17:50:53
I posted that this was likely to happen many months ago. Opinion seemed to be that it wouldnt happen - sponsors etc. wouldnt allow it.I hate to say I told you so but............ ::) :D
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: feeutfo on 29 July 2011, 19:37:12
Initially, thinking a BBC highlights program would be Good news. All the "boring" bits cut out  ::)  etc etc.  >:( should stop em moaning!

Sky do present a good program. Usually quite technical, hopefully anyway, I would be interested to see what they come up with, and if they stop showing live real time really exciting shots of static wags, family and  team members of the the driver on a hot lap, INSTEAD of the driver on a hot lap  >:(

However, I ain't paying to watch it. For the money we already pay sky I expect a go in the mclaren itself never mind paying even more!

... And I'm not sure how it works but I don't think sky or the BBC have any say in the live broadcast of the race? Do they?  :-/ isn't it down to the home nation to produce the coverage? Or a production company or sumat? So no chance of improvement there I guess.  :'(
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: Martin_1962 on 29 July 2011, 20:12:06
It is done by the F1 managament company

As to teams - they were told afterwards and they are not happy
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: Martin_1962 on 29 July 2011, 20:35:16
Humax owners read this

http://foxsat-hdr.wikispaces.com/DiSEqC

http://www.astra2d.com/diseqc.html
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: Omegatoy on 29 July 2011, 21:00:09
[size=24]'dangle berries'[/size] I hate blasted sky!!
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: Martin_1962 on 29 July 2011, 23:34:12
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[size=24]'dangle berries'[/size] I hate blasted sky!!


Watch it on RTL instead then - that seems to be the most popular choice at the moment, the least popular is Sky
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: r1 on 30 July 2011, 11:03:56
well i like f1 and watch every meeting but as i havnt got sky it means that i will miss out.
the only good thing is that i will have to find a pub that shows it!! still dont think there will be many pubs open at 2 in the morning
 a couple of years ago our local picture house showed a special screening of the f1 live that was very good but again you having to pay.
i am so angry about this wish i had a tv licence then i would write to the bbc saying i wasnt going to pay.
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: Martin_1962 on 30 July 2011, 12:11:04
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well i like f1 and watch every meeting but as i havnt got sky it means that i will miss out.
the only good thing is that i will have to find a pub that shows it!! still dont think there will be many pubs open at 2 in the morning
 a couple of years ago our local picture house showed a special screening of the f1 live that was very good but again you having to pay.
i am so angry about this wish i had a tv licence then i would write to the bbc saying i wasnt going to pay.

Get a cheap digital satellite system from idl, B&Q ect and point at 19.2E and watch on RTL £50 vs £600PA
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: cleggy on 30 July 2011, 15:31:09
The thing that is confusing me is what SKY SPORT channel will F1 be on? If I want just F1, and Cricket Test Matches do I have to purchase SKY1, or SKY SPORTS option which in cludes 1 and 2?
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: Martin_1962 on 30 July 2011, 15:34:17
It is on RTL (German) or TF1 (French) for free
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: Osprey on 30 July 2011, 16:39:21
And even if you don't speak the lingo the commentary will still make as much sense as Murray Walker's ever did  ;)
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: yatesDELTA on 30 July 2011, 17:15:23
Well, can mute it and listen to 5 Live during the races I suppose
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: tunnie on 01 August 2011, 09:04:14
Excellent, all races in HD, advert breaks will not be introduced when its on Sky. I can watch it on my iPhone where ever I am, also strong possibility of it going 3D, its a 7 year deal so means no adverts for next 8 years, and no hope of it going back to ITV.

I just hope Brundel gets a contract with Sky
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: richardirv on 01 August 2011, 09:19:04
I am in 2 minds..

I don't think its right what they are doing. F1 should be free to watch end of!

The BBC put on great coverage and a great show over the weekend and its already in HD.

On the other hand, I have Sky and Sky 3D and secretly got my everything crossed we might see some F1 in 3D next year. Not likely though I'm sure..
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: bob.dent on 01 August 2011, 10:21:13
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I am in 2 minds..

I don't think its right what they are doing. F1 should be free to watch end of!
The BBC put on great coverage and a great show over the weekend and its already in HD.

On the other hand, I have Sky and Sky 3D and secretly got my everything crossed we might see some F1 in 3D next year. Not likely though I'm sure..

Nail on head! :y
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: Martin_1962 on 01 August 2011, 11:29:37
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Excellent, all races in HD, advert breaks will not be introduced when its on Sky. I can watch it on my iPhone where ever I am, also strong possibility of it going 3D, its a 7 year deal so means no adverts for next 8 years, and no hope of it going back to ITV.

I just hope Brundel gets a contract with Sky


No not excellent, but a real pain to lots of people who do not want the pay TV route.

It would cost me £600 PA to match the BBC going the Murdoch route, as it is I am looking at £200 or so for another dish and multiple LNBs to watch qualifying on RTL and race on TF1 HD.

I think that RTL will have more UK F1 viewers than Sky.
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: tunnie on 01 August 2011, 11:37:31
Sky will show everything, why bother with second dish?  :-/
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: Nickbat on 01 August 2011, 11:42:12
I really, really do not want to pay for Sky.

I think it is a very poor decision by F1 & Ecclestone.

 >:( :(
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: Martin_1962 on 01 August 2011, 11:49:41
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Sky will show everything, why bother with second dish?  :-/

So Sky is now free, sorry I thought it was £600 PA for HD and Sports (95% of I am not interested in)

Adding Astra1 and Hotbird wth quad LNBs to my Freesat setup is a lot cheaper.

Only way I would use Sky channel is if

1) Not expensive
2) HD
3) CAM supplied rather than their inferior box
4) EPG info shared with Freesat so I can leave in Freesat mode.

Please note as the owner of a pretty good FTA satellite PVR (The Humax HDR) I have no wish and no spare HDMI to use a Sky box as well.
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: Martin_1962 on 01 August 2011, 11:50:20
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I really, really do not want to pay for Sky.

I think it is a very poor decision by F1 & Ecclestone.

 >:( :(


I am planning on using RTL or TF1 once I have an 80cm dish installed with multiple quad LNBs
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: Nickbat on 01 August 2011, 11:52:48
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I really, really do not want to pay for Sky.

I think it is a very poor decision by F1 & Ecclestone.

 >:( :(


I am planning on using RTL or TF1 once I have an 80cm dish installed with multiple quad LNBs

I have an Octo LNB dish I bought for Freesat sitting in my shed. Not sure about the size in cm., though. Will measure it when I get a chance. Does it have to be 80cm.?  :-?
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: tunnie on 01 August 2011, 12:00:25
Its cheaper than £600, cheapest package route would be:

Variety Pack & Sports @ £29.75
HD @ £10.25.

So £40/m ~ £480 /yr

I can apply a 50% discount to that, but it would only last a year. But after that expires, its a good point to argue another discount, as you threaten to leave.
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: Martin_1962 on 01 August 2011, 12:04:17
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I really, really do not want to pay for Sky.

I think it is a very poor decision by F1 & Ecclestone.

 >:( :(


I am planning on using RTL or TF1 once I have an 80cm dish installed with multiple quad LNBs

I have an Octo LNB dish I bought for Freesat sitting in my shed. Not sure about the size in cm., though. Will measure it when I get a chance. Does it have to be 80cm.?  :-?


My 65cm dish is too small to put 28E 23E and 19E LNBs on

See these

http://www.aerialsuperstore.co.uk/triax-multiblock-td-multi-lnb-holder-model-300727-51-p.asp

http://www.selkirkshire.demon.co.uk/analoguesat/multisat.html
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: Martin_1962 on 01 August 2011, 12:05:12
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Its cheaper than £600, cheapest package route would be:

Variety Pack & Sports @ £29.75
HD @ £10.25.

So £40/m ~ £480 /yr

I can apply a 50% discount to that, but it would only last a year. But after that expires, its a good point to argue another discount, as you threaten to leave.


Still cheaper to go to the French and German FTA channels with extra LNBs though
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: Kevin Wood on 01 August 2011, 12:10:57
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Its cheaper than £600, cheapest package route would be:

Variety Pack & Sports @ £29.75
HD @ £10.25.

So £40/m ~ £480 /yr

I can apply a 50% discount to that, but it would only last a year. But after that expires, its a good point to argue another discount, as you threaten to leave.


Still cheaper to go to the French and German FTA channels with extra LNBs though

More to the point, it's cheaper to tax a Monaro. It's only a telly FFS! ;D
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: tunnie on 01 August 2011, 12:20:35
Did i mention its all free for me?   :P :P :P  ;D
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: aaronjb on 01 August 2011, 18:01:34
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Its cheaper than £600, cheapest package route would be:

Variety Pack & Sports @ £29.75
HD @ £10.25.

So £40/m ~ £480 /yr

I can apply a 50% discount to that, but it would only last a year. But after that expires, its a good point to argue another discount, as you threaten to leave.

You really do work in sales, don't you? ;)
Title: Re: F1 on SKY
Post by: albitz on 01 August 2011, 18:11:41
I certainly wont pay to watch it. In fact Im seriously considering binning Sky altogether. If the viewing figures turn out to be poor, I think that in the medium term, Bernie is going to have problems from the sponsors paying milions to have their names painted on the sides of these mobile billboards.
The Beeb have acted disgracefully over this imo. They state that they dont have the money any more to pay for it. Thats 'dangle berries', thay have made a choice, and decided that the licence payers money is better spent an a fortnights coverage of eastern european women shrieking and grunting while hitting a ball back and forth across a net on a piece of grass.terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired, ZZZzzz. ::)
Perhaps fast cars burning fossil fuels, driven by wealthy men doesnt fit in with the ethos of the sandal wearing, lentil munchers from Notting Hil who run the Beeb and they have taken the first opportunity to bin it. ;)