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Title: Quick question about 13 amp sockets
Post by: Martin_1962 on 04 August 2011, 09:31:23
Are there any issues with unplugging a vacuum cleaner without switching it off - literally just unplugging it while running?

Not me I hasten to add.
Title: Re: Quick question about 13 amp sockets
Post by: Jimbob on 04 August 2011, 09:34:56
cant imagine the off button does anything different to that to be honest
Title: Re: Quick question about 13 amp sockets
Post by: TheBoy on 04 August 2011, 09:46:34
As long as the plug is a BS certified, no big problem.
Title: Re: Quick question about 13 amp sockets
Post by: Kevin Wood on 04 August 2011, 09:50:05
Unplugging a vacuum cleaner? :o

I think you'll find that's technically a PINK JOB.
Title: Re: Quick question about 13 amp sockets
Post by: TheBoy on 04 August 2011, 10:03:16
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Unplugging a vacuum cleaner? :o

I think you'll find that's technically a PINK JOB.
My job is to constantly repair the rather thing
Title: Re: Quick question about 13 amp sockets
Post by: albitz on 04 August 2011, 10:09:54
Whats a vacuum cleaner ? :-/





 :D
Title: Re: Quick question about 13 amp sockets
Post by: Richie London on 04 August 2011, 10:12:28
i always just unplug it from the wall, same as tv and most other things. saves switching off twice  :)
Title: Re: Quick question about 13 amp sockets
Post by: Kevin Wood on 04 August 2011, 10:30:39
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Unplugging a vacuum cleaner? :o

I think you'll find that's technically a PINK JOB.
My job is to constantly repair the rather thing

Ahh. Dyson. :-X
Title: Re: Quick question about 13 amp sockets
Post by: Martin_1962 on 04 August 2011, 11:02:28
Our office cleaner doesn't turn it off she pulls it out from the wall while the motor is running.
Title: Re: Quick question about 13 amp sockets
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 04 August 2011, 11:30:35
Over time it will bugger the wall socket as there will be an arc formed between the plug pins and wall socket contacts. You may say arc damage to the plug pins to (but these are much bigger than the socket contacts so will last better).

You should switch it off at the vaccum first as this is the only switch in the system designed/selected to turn off the motor load.

You should NOT switch off at the wall socket first as the contacts on the switch in these is are designed as an isolator and dont last when exposed to switching loads.
Title: Re: Quick question about 13 amp sockets
Post by: Richie London on 04 August 2011, 11:45:32
what i have found is the iron trips off at the mains if i have it on too long, they tend to drain a lot of power if i am correct, the same as a kettle.
Title: Re: Quick question about 13 amp sockets
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 04 August 2011, 11:48:25
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what i have found is the iron trips off at the mains if i have it on too long, they tend to drain a lot of power if i am correct, the same as a kettle.

Faulty iron old boy, got a leak to earth in it (which hints at water getting where it shoudn't)
Title: Re: Quick question about 13 amp sockets
Post by: Richie London on 04 August 2011, 11:56:32
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what i have found is the iron trips off at the mains if i have it on too long, they tend to drain a lot of power if i am correct, the same as a kettle.

Faulty iron old boy, got a leak to earth in it (which hints at water getting where it shoudn't)


its been like it since new, i have tested the sockets and no fault at all.
Title: Re: Quick question about 13 amp sockets
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 04 August 2011, 11:58:42
As said, its not the sockets (so little point in testing them)

Its an earth leakage (or worse) which will be the iron, it may be that the internals are getting damp due to loads of steam (common on budget irons)

But either way, its the iron  :y
Title: Re: Quick question about 13 amp sockets
Post by: Richie London on 04 August 2011, 12:00:29
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As said, its not the sockets (so little point in testing them)

Its an earth leakage (or worse) which will be the iron, it may be that the internals are getting damp due to loads of steam (common on budget irons)

But either way, its the iron  :y


it does seem to let off a bit of steam when turned on  ::)

cheers mark  :y
Title: Re: Quick question about 13 amp sockets
Post by: Martin_1962 on 04 August 2011, 12:27:57
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Over time it will bugger the wall socket as there will be an arc formed between the plug pins and wall socket contacts. You may say arc damage to the plug pins to (but these are much bigger than the socket contacts so will last better).

You should switch it off at the vaccum first as this is the only switch in the system designed/selected to turn off the motor load.

You should NOT switch off at the wall socket first as the contacts on the switch in these is are designed as an isolator and dont last when exposed to switching loads.


Her favourite socket is dead - wondered if this was the cause
Title: Re: Quick question about 13 amp sockets
Post by: Martian on 04 August 2011, 13:42:27
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what i have found is the iron trips off at the mains if i have it on too long, they tend to drain a lot of power if i am correct, the same as a kettle.
As Mark says, you have a faulty iron if it is tripping the MCB/RCD. Regardless of how much power a device draws, it should be able to function all day long without tripping any safety devices if it is working correctly.
As far as power consumption goes, they average around 2000 Watts (which is the same as most kettles).