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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: tunnie on 11 August 2011, 21:00:34
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No not a new Omega, 6 cylinders on a bike!
My GS was due a service, so I took it to Cotswold BMW. Even though many dealers are closer, as they are still new-ish they are very competitive on servicing costs, over £100 cheaper than Oxford, plus its a nice ride over there!
While mine was being serviced, I borrowed this:
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Motorbike/BMW1600GTL/SAM_1503.JPG)
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Motorbike/BMW1600GTL/SAM_1488.JPG)
Its BMW's new K1600 GTL, I wanted just the standard GT, as thats more sports focused, but this was all they had.
Its got BMW's new 1,649cc Inline 6 engine. What can I say? 160 bhp and 6 pots on a bike, its a fantastic combination....
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Motorbike/BMW1600GTL/SAM_1490.JPG)
Its got an Adpative Zenon light, so it turns as you turn, the first for a bike. Shame I could not try it at night.
Its dash is rather nice, very easy to read even in direct light and built in Sat Nav.
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Motorbike/BMW1600GTL/SAM_1484.JPG)
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Motorbike/BMW1600GTL/SAM_1485.JPG)
Its got various USB & Aux inputs for iPods/iPhones/MP3 players and such....
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Motorbike/BMW1600GTL/SAM_1509.JPG)
I took it to the Brecon Beacons, via Monmouth.....
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Motorbike/BMW1600GTL/SAM_1496.JPG)
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Motorbike/BMW1600GTL/SAM_1505.JPG)
The engine, is an astonishing bit of kit.... 4th gear, 15mph it pulls, and pulls well... 20,30,40,50,60 mph (tick past like seconds) 70mph, 80mph, 90mph (still in 4th!) 100mph, 110 mph, 120 mph, 130mph, 135mph and red line in 4th.... (still got 5th and 6th ::))
You never ever need to change gear in this thing, I did have to get used to the seat being a lot lower than my GS, the footrests were rests not pegs and far too big. I really struggled to fit my size 13's to loop my foot under the gear selector.
Whilst the engine was amazing and it was silky, silky smooth and got more gadgets than a Bond car, it still was not as 'fun' as mine.
Mainly due to its GT-L nature, the steering was setup for touring not as flickable as mine.
MPG was reasonable, I averaged 46mpg, I was hardly riding economically either ::) :-X
Can't wait to try the standard GT, think i need to start saving ::)
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phew.. it looks like it belongs to another time ..
and never seen a 6 cylinder bike.. cant imagine how it goes!!
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phew.. it looks like it belongs to another time ..
and never seen a 6 cylinder bike.. cant imagine how it goes!!
Oh it goes, i mean i goes. Did i say it goes? :D
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phew.. it looks like it belongs to another time ..
and never seen a 6 cylinder bike.. cant imagine how it goes!!
Oh it goes, i mean i goes. Did i say it goes? :D
;D ;D
I dont believe .. let me try ;D
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Very nice for a bike :y
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Looks very nice Tunnie,I remember the old Honda 1000CBX which had a transverse 6 pot as well
http://classic-motorbikes.net/images/gallery/honda%20cbx1000.jpg
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and never seen a 6 cylinder bike.. cant imagine how it goes!!
Honda & Kawasaki were doing it 30 years ago Cem.
The Kwaka also had fuel injection.
(http://classic-motorbikes.net/images/gallery/honda_cbx1000z.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3313/3449432549_79d3eedb81_o.jpg)
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and never seen a 6 cylinder bike.. cant imagine how it goes!!
Honda & Kawasaki were doing it 30 years ago Cem.
The Kwaka also had fuel injection.
(http://classic-motorbikes.net/images/gallery/honda_cbx1000z.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3313/3449432549_79d3eedb81_o.jpg)
:o
those were never imported here probably.. but stunning machines.. :y
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Looks very nice Tunnie,I remember the old Honda 1000CBX which had a transverse 6 pot as well
http://classic-motorbikes.net/images/gallery/honda%20cbx1000.jpg
A few 6 pot bikes over the years. http://motoaus.com/retro/bikes/six-cylinder-motorcycle-guide.html
I remember looking through the window of a bike shop on my way to school that had a benelli 250 6 pot on display. :y :y
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and never seen a 6 cylinder bike.. cant imagine how it goes!!
Honda & Kawasaki were doing it 30 years ago Cem.
The Kwaka also had fuel injection.
(http://classic-motorbikes.net/images/gallery/honda_cbx1000z.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3313/3449432549_79d3eedb81_o.jpg)
There used to be Z1300 knocking about Gosport/Fareham early 80's that had a 'side winder' side car fitted so he could stay on L plates! :o ;D ;D ;D
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beemer 6 unit, is only slightly bigger then standard I4's - Its got very small pots.
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Sigh.....
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Great bike Tunnie. Even with (I guess about 300 plus kilos ) to lug about, it should still go like shit off a shovel.
At my age I really fancy the idea of a big cubed tourer. :y :y
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Ah yes the Honda CBX 1000. Came out in 1978 when I was a callow youth of just 18. Need I say more. Even today it looks awesome... :y :y
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Sigh.....
Buts its black you should like it? :D
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Looks a blast & loving the CBX & the Big Z. I'm still considering taking my bike test (wish i'd done it when i was 17 ::)) But what's stopped me is struggling to behave my self on 2...or sometimes 1 wheels! Given my job i simply can't get banned & it's only a twist of the throttle away on most bikes. Also up here in Lincs there are some lovely ride out roads & the police know it. I'm a big bloke so need a big bike & the 1200 Bandit would usually be my first choice but given it's character & my lack of self discipline a big tourer like the GS might well be a better bet despite being 3 or 4 times the price so would be a while before i could afford one but it would be a keeper. A mate of mine works for Astle BMW nearby so keeping sevice history would'nt be too bad. :-/
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Great bike Tunnie. Even with (I guess about 300 plus kilos ) to lug about, it should still go like shit off a shovel.
At my age I really fancy the idea of a big cubed tourer. :y :y
Take a test ride, they are more than willing to lend you one all day. Previous person took it for 417 mile blast!
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Sigh.....
.........I know!
Got all excited that he'd got himself a grown up car at last and Oh it's a bike! :( ;D ;D ;D
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how much does it cost?
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I'm still considering taking my bike test
Do it Guy :y
I learned for the challenge, a new skill. I have not looked back.
Did same with Snowboarding!
You don't need power to enjoy biking, I enjoy driving my 4pot Omega....I've had it for 6 years, I've had funds to change to a V6 if I wanted to, I've had several project cars but I always liked my little 2.2 :)
For me just being on the bike is fun in twisty lanes, the extra go is nice though. Even my lardy GS, will see off most things on 4 wheels.
Given your height, I feel you may struggle a bit with the GS, they are tall. One of the reasons I like it, as I'm not to scrunched up on the bike.
Perhaps something like F650 or F850 would suit you to begin with?
All I can say is go for it, nothing like a tent strapped to the back (or set of clothes for B&B) and heading off to somewhere like Snowdonia / Wales along lovely twisty roads on a sunny day!
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how much does it cost?
Around 16k ;D ;D ;D
I'd never buy one, my GS was only £6k
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Would be nice with six individual pipes .....just like the old Benelli 6. :y
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Is that the road from Brecon to Merthyr Tunnie? Very popular with bikers, lovely drive :y
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Is that the road from Brecon to Merthyr Tunnie? Very popular with bikers, lovely drive :y
Think so. Saw signs for Merthyr. It was A40 :) I took a back road to Monmouth.
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Is that the road from Brecon to Merthyr Tunnie? Very popular with bikers, lovely drive :y
Think so. Saw signs for Merthyr. It was A40 :) I took a back road to Monmouth.
Ah, the road to Abergavenny probably, that ain't a bad drive either. You don't half get about mate :)
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Is that the road from Brecon to Merthyr Tunnie? Very popular with bikers, lovely drive :y
Think so. Saw signs for Merthyr. It was A40 :) I took a back road to Monmouth.
Ah, the road to Abergavenny probably, that ain't a bad drive either. You don't half get about mate :)
Still got loads to do, like taking the bike to new places :)
Fancy a run over to Cromer at some point. Next big bike trip is a tour of North Scotland, been as far as Edinburgh, but want to go as far as John O' Groats
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beemer 6 unit, is only slightly bigger then standard I4's - Its got very small pots.
Like the Z1300 long stroke
The CBX though was deliberately built without a front frame member so the vehicles in front could see all 6 cylinders when you come up behind them.
It had the most scare factor of any bike due to that
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BMW, apart from the small 6 stamped on the side of the engine block you cannot tell.
Checked on Autotrader this morning, GS's don't half hold their value well!!! :o :o :o
I bought mine in the depths of the 'depression' in 2009 for £6,150 from a BMW dealer!!!, 2006 on a 56 plate.....
One older than mine about same miles still on market for £6k :o
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/search/used/bikes/bmw/r1200/postcode/tw89de/radius/1501/sort/priceasc/variant/GS
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That looks like a 2 wheeled Elite. ;D
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That looks like a 2 wheeled Elite. ;D
Sorry,but no,Bose isn't standard :D ;D
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Thought this was supposed to be a car forum :(
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Thought this was supposed to be a car forum :(
This is gen chat, environment, bikes, I.T anything goes ;)
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Yes, sadly I have noticed that "anything goes" bit. :D
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Yes, sadly I have noticed that "anything goes" bit. :D
Noticed you just removed your bike from your profile :P
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There may be a lot more removed very shortly.
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Hmmm, really not convinced I like it. Actually, I don't. Its not pretty.
And all that capacity, yet speedo still only goes to 170mph, which is disappointing - I can't imagine it has esp short gears, as its a cruiser. But speed isn't everything, and I've never had more than 145 from my (restricted, it turns out) ZX10 - the bike can give more, but I don't want more.
£6k is way more than I'd ever spend on a bike, so £16k is defo out. In fact, I don't think I've even ever spend £2k on a bike ;D. But then, I don't buy badges.
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Hmmm, really not convinced I like it. Actually, I don't. Its not pretty.
And all that capacity, yet speedo still only goes to 170mph, which is disappointing - I can't imagine it has esp short gears, as its a cruiser. But speed isn't everything, and I've never had more than 145 from my (restricted, it turns out) ZX10 - the bike can give more, but I don't want more.
£6k is way more than I'd ever spend on a bike, so £16k is defo out. In fact, I don't think I've even ever spend £2k on a bike ;D. But then, I don't buy badges.
Nancy boy.... :)
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It reminds me a little of the six cylinder Gold Wing. I think they were 1800 c.c but were more about torque than outright power (BHP)... :y
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I needed new underpants at 148 mph :-X
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I needed new underpants at 148 mph :-X
I would need a new arsehole after travelling at that speed on a bike,the old one would be worn out from clenching the seat :D
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to be fair, what the bike is designed for, it does a very good job.
It could sit at outside lane speeds alllll day long, and with that massive screen it was nice place to sit.
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How about this Mr Tunnie and Mr TB?
The rider seems unwilling or unable to give the Busa full throttle whilst the front wheel is four feet off the ground (between about 70 MPH and 140 MPH). he only really nails it when both wheels are on the ground again. What a girlie... ::) ::) ::) ;)
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4lDfyoFgtY[/media]
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I needed new underpants at 148 mph :-X
I would need a new arsehole after travelling at that speed on a bike,the old one would be worn out from clenching the seat :D
;D ;D ;D :y
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watching the side road / left turn go past, I highly doubt thats 220mph!
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Im with you on that, def doesnt look or sound like 220mph!
ive had just about 180mph (private track..) and things come up a bit quicker then that!
miss my blackbird but i dont have the self control. will one day rebuild my v-max which is a nice cruiser for me.
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148mph looks a lot faster than that! Those white lines are still separated, they should be one blur!
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148mph looks a lot faster than that! Those white lines are still separated, they should be one blur!
That's because you are not used to it ;)
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148mph looks a lot faster than that! Those white lines are still separated, they should be one blur!
That's because you are not used to it ;)
You think that video really shows 220? :-/
That left entrance/turn at 30 seconds, apparently he is doing 200mph there :-? :-/
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Not seen vid, as no 3G here.
My point was a blurred White line at 148mph is due to not being used to high speed :)
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km/h?
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km/h?
Much more like it.... but thats supposed to be America I think. So mph.
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148mph looks a lot faster than that! Those white lines are still separated, they should be one blur!
That's because you are not used to it ;)
You think that video really shows 220? :-/
That left entrance/turn at 30 seconds, apparently he is doing 200mph there :-? :-/
280 km/h (175 mph) on the speedo of the Blackbird which is following Ghostrider (very well known nutter) who is on a mid stage tuned (499 BHP) Busa, and the white lines are nowhere near blurred.
As TheBoy says, if the white lines are blurred at 148 mph for you then you are not used to speed.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6hbMEysGI4[/media]
PS
A fully tuned Busa makes 700 BHP at the rear wheel and weighs in at around 200KG, do the power to weight numbers on that one ;)
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That's runway! 10 feet or something between the lines, they will not blur. Sorry but that other earlier video is faked.
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That's runway! 10 feet or something between the lines, they will not blur. Sorry but that other earlier video is faked.
The testing is being done on a runway, but the road part is a real public road and 280 clicks is visible on the speedo of the Blackbird.
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That's runway! 10 feet or something between the lines, they will not blur. Sorry but that other earlier video is faked.
The testing is being done on a runway, but the road part is a real public road and 280 clicks is visible on the speedo of the Blackbird.
I can see that video is real, but the earlier one looks fake to me.
Anyone can get on a bike, point it in a straight line, open the throttle and grip on. No real skill in that really.
As for the bikes, bit pointless really. Like to see that been ridden fast around the UKs pot hole rife roads!
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Anyone can get on a bike, point it in a straight line, open the throttle and grip on. No real skill in that really.
You are correct, but what is required is a lack of self preservation or a set of gonads (or a combination of both).
I have experienced 155mph in a car (Jag 3 litre XF), and I have experienced 155mph on a bike (Blackbird). I will admit right now that doing it in the car didn't bother me in the slightest, but doing it on the bike certainly had my brain (and to some degree my sphincter) working overtime.
I can promise you faithfully though, at those speeds the white lines are not a blur.
PS
The Swedish police have confirmed on television that Ghostrider's videos are not fake, they really have clocked him at speeds topping 250mph
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I've done 140mph in Germany in a clapped out 300 quid Senny, that was just funny. 140mph on a bike though, bugger me, they need to invent man sized nappies ;D ;D ;D :D
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I've done 140mph in Germany in a clapped out 300 quid Senny, that was just funny. 140mph on a bike though, bugger me, they need to invent man sized nappies ;D ;D ;D :D
I'd feel a lot safer doing it on a bike abroad (France or Germany for instance) as their tarmac is racetrack quality when compared to the crap we have to drive on.
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kent plod have just taken delivery of 4 of the BMW's...all unmarked....well they untill you upset mr plod...see one chasing a focus st yesterday on the M 20...and i got too say it was going very well :y
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Honda has 6 cylinder 125cc & 250 in the 60's.
Listen to this for a sound, a Honda 250 6 cylinder :y
[media]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-399655162231091875#[/media]
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And another from 1966
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaRop_ZMwo0[/media]
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And another from 1966
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaRop_ZMwo0[/media]
Well there go all my sensible bike ideas.... I want a KH400 now!!! :D
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KH400 is as flat as a witches tit Guy.The 500 mach3 is the one to have (or 750 mach4) all the power comes in with a bang and the handling is atrocious - pretty exciting. Nicknamed "The widowmakers" and for good reason. ;)
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Have you heard KH 250's and 400's with Microns on them? now that is a sound to be heard Guy :y
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I'm still considering taking my bike test
Do it Guy :y
I learned for the challenge, a new skill. I have not looked back.
Did same with Snowboarding!
You don't need power to enjoy biking, I enjoy driving my 4pot Omega....I've had it for 6 years, I've had funds to change to a V6 if I wanted to, I've had several project cars but I always liked my little 2.2 :)
For me just being on the bike is fun in twisty lanes, the extra go is nice though. Even my lardy GS, will see off most things on 4 wheels.
Given your height, I feel you may struggle a bit with the GS, they are tall. One of the reasons I like it, as I'm not to scrunched up on the bike.
Perhaps something like F650 or F850 would suit you to begin with?
All I can say is go for it, nothing like a tent strapped to the back (or set of clothes for B&B) and heading off to somewhere like Snowdonia / Wales along lovely twisty roads on a sunny day!
Given my height? Don't you remember me? I'm not as tall as you but i'm a good 6 footer & 17+ stone which would settle her down a tad.
If BMW are pitching the GS at 6'5 plus then it's a limited market! ;D
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Have you heard KH 250's and 400's with Microns on them? now that is a sound to be heard Guy :y
I had a KH250 (the S1 model) the day I turned 17, the day before I was on a Fizzy (FS1-E).
I didn't have to worry about the centre pot issue as I didn't have it long enough, it was less than an hour from picking it up to stoving it in to the back of a car (no wonder the government introduced the 125 law very shortly afterwards ;D ).
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Have you heard KH 250's and 400's with Microns on them? now that is a sound to be heard Guy :y
I had a KH250 (the S1 model) the day I turned 17, the day before I was on a Fizzy (FS1-E).
I didn't have to worry about the centre pot issue as I didn't have it long enough, it was less than an hour from picking it up to stoving it in to the back of a car (no wonder the government introduced the 125 law very shortly afterwards ;D ).
I used to know someone with one and it kept dropping cylinders, one ride cut to one cylinder so I had to carry his passenger on my 100. The others were learners or had passengers. I had a CG125 crash into me! But I could still pull over 70.
I did have a go on the KH as well.
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I'm still considering taking my bike test
Do it Guy :y
I learned for the challenge, a new skill. I have not looked back.
Did same with Snowboarding!
You don't need power to enjoy biking, I enjoy driving my 4pot Omega....I've had it for 6 years, I've had funds to change to a V6 if I wanted to, I've had several project cars but I always liked my little 2.2 :)
For me just being on the bike is fun in twisty lanes, the extra go is nice though. Even my lardy GS, will see off most things on 4 wheels.
Given your height, I feel you may struggle a bit with the GS, they are tall. One of the reasons I like it, as I'm not to scrunched up on the bike.
Perhaps something like F650 or F850 would suit you to begin with?
All I can say is go for it, nothing like a tent strapped to the back (or set of clothes for B&B) and heading off to somewhere like Snowdonia / Wales along lovely twisty roads on a sunny day!
Given my height? Don't you remember me? I'm not as tall as you but i'm a good 6 footer & 17+ stone which would settle her down a tad.
If BMW are pitching the GS at 6'5 plus then it's a limited market! ;D
Apologies Guy, for some reason (going from first lakes meet) I thought you where 5ft8 or something :-[ :-[
Sorry! :-[
6ft is fine, but even I struggle a bit to get on it, couple of times i've put my foot down to find a slight pot hole and almost gone over! :-[
You know you want to take the bike test :y
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Tunnie get 6 cylinders and rides to Brecon.....
I though I heard a motorbiker going past screaming "[Shrek pinnocio voice on]I'm a real boy.........[voice off]"
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KH400 is as flat as a witches tit Guy.The 500 mach3 is the one to have (or 750 mach4) all the power comes in with a bang and the handling is atrocious - pretty exciting. Nicknamed "The widowmakers" and for good reason. ;)
Which is why they were pointles. KH400/250 flat? ? Don't talk daft.
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Have you heard KH 250's and 400's with Microns on them? now that is a sound to be heard Guy :y
The expansion chamber was made for the 2 stroke triple!!!! :D
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Iirc the 250 was around 27bhp and the 400 around 35bhp.
......so, flat as a witches tit. ;)
Having said that I am living testimony to the fact that the KH 250 was easily fast enough to do yourself very serious damage - when its near flat out progress is interupted by the rear end of a Hillman Hunter,aided & abetted by a set of traffic lights. ::) :D ;D
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Iirc the 250 was around 27bhp and the 400 around 35bhp.
......so, flat as a witches tit. ;)
Having said that I am living testimony to the fact that the KH 250 was easily fast enough to do yourself very serious damage - when its near flat out progress is interupted by the rear end of a Hillman Hunter,aided & abetted by a set of traffic lights. ::) :D ;D
Dunno about the tekky stuff but a good KH was a scream to ride. Rode a 400 owned a 250. The points & carbs could be tricky to keep right (maybe that's why yours felt flat) but they were as good if not better than any other 250 of thier day.
Centre pot used to take a while to kick in some mornings, usually with the throttle wide open on a roundabout!
Proper little screamers & i'm glad to old enough to remember them.
I love classic cars but hate Hillman Hunters. Possibly the most un involving drive ever...even the Holbays.
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I owned 2 and rode several of them. I agree that they were the best 250 in the mid 70,s - but by todays standards......... ;)
If I wanted a two stroke 250 it would be an Aprillia RS 250 - faster than most 750,s from the 70,s.
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I seem to recall there was a Kawasaki 350 two stroke triple in the early seventies too. I believe it was dropped when the 400 came out. :y