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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: TheBoy on 12 August 2011, 17:52:06
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Seeing tunnies I-want-a-poofters-badge-rather-than-a-proper-bike, reminded me the ZX10 MOT runs out tomorrow.
So a quick phone call to tunnie's favourite bike shop, and they squeeze in this afternoon. All passed, one adviso, although speaking to the guy, he says it'll be fine for a year or 2, it's more arse covering.
Mind you, they had to give me a bump start afterwards ::)
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Course it will pass, its done what 100 miles this year? :P
You want to get those wheels turning & take it to Scotland ;)
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160 miles approx :-[
That's less than a tank of petrol :-[
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160 miles approx :-[
That's less than a tank of petrol :-[
;D ;D ;D ;D
I did more than that yesterday! ;D ;D ;D
It may have a " I-want-a-poofters-badge" - But at least mine uses more than a tank of fuel in a year :P
I've clocked up about 1,500 miles so far this year :)
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ZX-10 was a fast bike....in it's day. :y
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160 miles approx :-[
That's less than a tank of petrol :-[
Poofter! ;D
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That reminds me, my bike MOT........ :-X
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ZX-10 was a fast bike....in it's day. :y
was blimmin quick back then, i remember going to school on the back of my mums thinking i was awsome lol
lovely bikes, she still says it was one of the best she had. I think its the one that got my sister hooked on bikes too, and her busa scares me!
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160 miles approx :-[
That's less than a tank of petrol :-[
;D ;D ;D ;D
I did more than that yesterday! ;D ;D ;D
It may have a " I-want-a-poofters-badge" - But at least mine uses more than a tank of fuel in a year :P
I've clocked up about 1,500 miles so far this year :)
I have no desire to star in Star Wars
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160 miles approx :-[
That's less than a tank of petrol :-[
;D ;D ;D ;D
I did more than that yesterday! ;D ;D ;D
It may have a " I-want-a-poofters-badge" - But at least mine uses more than a tank of fuel in a year :P
I've clocked up about 1,500 miles so far this year :)
I have no desire to star in Star Wars
Apparently no desire to use the bike either ::)
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ZX-10 was a fast bike....in it's day. :y
Aye, but it's day was long ago. Most 600cc sports bikes would probably give it a run for it's money in straight line, and murder it in the bends.
But it's cheap to run - 40-50mpg, £74 tax, £78 insurance fully comp including riding other bikes. Thus no desire to change it. It's still quick enough, and unpredictable enough to scare the living daylights out of me...
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160 miles approx :-[
That's less than a tank of petrol :-[
Poofter! ;D
Shall I spray it 'oyster' ;)
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ZX-10 was a fast bike....in it's day. :y
Aye, but it's day was long ago. Most 600cc sports bikes would probably give it a run for it's money in straight line, and murder it in the bends.
But it's cheap to run - 40-50mpg, £74 tax, £78 insurance fully comp including riding other bikes. Thus no desire to change it. It's still quick enough, and unpredictable enough to scare the living daylights out of me...
+ £30 MOT. 160 miles that works out at £1.13 a mile :o ;D
Words Poofter and gay spring to mind! ;D ;D
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160 miles approx :-[
That's less than a tank of petrol :-[
;D ;D ;D ;D
I did more than that yesterday! ;D ;D ;D
It may have a " I-want-a-poofters-badge" - But at least mine uses more than a tank of fuel in a year :P
I've clocked up about 1,500 miles so far this year :)
I have no desire to star in Star Wars
Apparently no desire to use the bike either ::)
Law of sod this year is every day that was good enough to use it for work, I've had to go to meetings, lug servers about, or go to other sites.
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ZX-10 was a fast bike....in it's day. :y
Aye, but it's day was long ago. Most 600cc sports bikes would probably give it a run for it's money in straight line, and murder it in the bends.
But it's cheap to run - 40-50mpg, £74 tax, £78 insurance fully comp including riding other bikes. Thus no desire to change it. It's still quick enough, and unpredictable enough to scare the living daylights out of me...
+ £30 MOT. 160 miles that works out at £1.13 a mile :o ;D
Words Poofter and gay spring to mind! ;D ;D
LPGing the cars has reduced the usefulness of the bike, that is true...
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ZX-10 was a fast bike....in it's day. :y
Aye, but it's day was long ago. Most 600cc sports bikes would probably give it a run for it's money in straight line, and murder it in the bends.
But it's cheap to run - 40-50mpg, £74 tax, £78 insurance fully comp including riding other bikes. Thus no desire to change it. It's still quick enough, and unpredictable enough to scare the living daylights out of me...
+ £30 MOT. 160 miles that works out at £1.13 a mile :o ;D
Words Poofter and gay spring to mind! ;D ;D
LPGing the cars has reduced the usefulness of the bike, that is true...
True when I first got the beemer i thought it was cheap as chips to run. Now its costs more, even getting 51mpg average yesterday, its still not as cheap as LPG :(
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160 miles approx :-[
That's less than a tank of petrol :-[
Poofter! ;D
Shall I spray it 'oyster' ;)
May as well by the sound of it. :P
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160 miles approx :-[
That's less than a tank of petrol :-[
Poofter! ;D
Shall I spray it 'oyster' ;)
May as well by the sound of it. :P
Go the whole hog and pop a BMW badge on it while your at it :y
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160 miles approx :-[
That's less than a tank of petrol :-[
Poofter! ;D
Shall I spray it 'oyster' ;)
May as well by the sound of it. :P
If you catch me eyeing up a Nokia N95, that will confirm that I've turned...
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160 miles approx :-[
That's less than a tank of petrol :-[
Poofter! ;D
Shall I spray it 'oyster' ;)
May as well by the sound of it. :P
Go the whole hog and pop a BMW badge on it while your at it :y
Nobody is that bent, surely :o
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ZX-10 was a fast bike....in it's day. :y
Aye, but it's day was long ago. Most 600cc sports bikes would probably give it a run for it's money in straight line, and murder it in the bends.
But it's cheap to run - 40-50mpg, £74 tax, £78 insurance fully comp including riding other bikes. Thus no desire to change it. It's still quick enough, and unpredictable enough to scare the living daylights out of me...
I friend of mine had the model before the ZX-10 way back in the eighties. We all drooled over it at the time. It was red and f**king beautiful. It was called the GPZ 1000 RX if memory serves. Long...long .....long time ago now. :y
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That reminds me, my bike MOT........ :-X
Oh crap! Good point!! ::)
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Don't need an Mot on mine. :)
Or tax, or insurance. :y
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Probably needs some oil down the bores before you turn it over though.Been stood so long the rings are probably stuck. ::) :D
Must have alook how many miles Ive done on mine this last year.
I suspect it will be in three figures tbh. :-[
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Probably needs some oil down the bores before you turn it over though.Been stood so long the rings are probably stuck. ::) :D
Must have alook how many miles Ive done on mine this last year.
I suspect it will be in three figures tbh. :-[
Bah, it's a Honda.
Needs tyres and a battery though. A decent rear shock with rebound that works, fix the side stand switch and rivet the rear seat unit on again. Poxy race plastics.
Oh, and remove all the bits of omega on top of it.
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Don't need an Mot on mine. :)
Or tax, or insurance. :y
What you got? a push bike..... :D
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Don't need an Mot on mine. :)
Or tax, or insurance. :y
What you got? a push bike..... :D
track only..... ;)
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Don't need an Mot on mine. :)
Or tax, or insurance. :y
What you got? a push bike..... :D
track only..... ;)
That would explain......
:)
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160 miles with a big grin on face is IMHO worth every penny of £1.13 a mile :y :y :y
1600 miles with big grin on face even better. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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Need to buy a new battery - the fairing is showing the signs of removal every time I use it to jump the tinker ::)
Any specific advice on batteries - cheap is good, cheap and nasty is not so good.
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Nothing can reduce the usefulness of a bike!
Oh, how I miss mine :'( The wife traded it for a pikey van, I've never been the same since :o :o
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I friend of mine had the model before the ZX-10 way back in the eighties. We all drooled over it at the time. It was red and f**king beautiful. It was called the GPZ 1000 RX if memory serves. Long...long .....long time ago now. :y
I had a GPz 1100 injection back in the day (1992), that was something else (at the time) and scared me more than once.
Not so much because of the acceleration or power, but because 60KG just isn't enough to keep something that heavy under manners from a handling point of view when you tell the computer to throw in as much fuel & air as possible ;D
Need to buy a new battery - the fairing is showing the signs of removal every time I use it to jump the tinker ::)
Any specific advice on batteries - cheap is good, cheap and nasty is not so good.
You can't really go wrong with Yuasa batteries, and they aren't that much more than the cheap & nasties.
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I used to like Yuasa batteries, but the forum's UPS eats them for breakfast (though I guess the heat doesn't help).
The last battery I bought for the ZX10 was one of those where you add the acid yourself, and I've never been impressed with it TBH - the bike does suffer warm-start issues, and is often left for weeks without use.
What would the life of a bike battery be - this is the first bike I've had where I've had to change the battery (twice!), though have had it a while now. Last time I checked, it was charging at about 14.5v at 3000rpm.
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Nothing can reduce the usefulness of a bike!
Oh, how I miss mine :'( The wife traded it for a pikey van, I've never been the same since :o :o
Sod that :o :o :o
Trade the wife in! ;D
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Nothing can reduce the usefulness of a bike!
Oh, how I miss mine :'( The wife traded it for a pikey van, I've never been the same since :o :o
Wise choice on behalf on the wife, you've got a good'un there :y
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Need to buy a new battery - the fairing is showing the signs of removal every time I use it to jump the tinker ::)
Any specific advice on batteries - cheap is good, cheap and nasty is not so good.
Its a bit of pain every time we've thought of going for a blast & we have to wait half an hour for your battery to get some charge ;D
Then there is the trip to the petrol station & gambling if the bugger will start again ;D
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Nothing can reduce the usefulness of a bike!
Oh, how I miss mine :'( The wife traded it for a pikey van, I've never been the same since :o :o
Wise choice on behalf on the wife, you've got a good'un there :y
;D
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Have you got a battery conditioner to leave on it when it's not in use? I've got a CTek that gets plugged into the Westfield when it's not in use and it makes a big difference to battery life. :y
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I do believe The Groomer has an opti-mate trickle charger or similar
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160 miles approx :-[
That's less than a tank of petrol :-[
;D ;D ;D ;D
I did more than that yesterday! ;D ;D ;D
It may have a " I-want-a-poofters-badge" - But at least mine uses more than a tank of fuel in a year :P
I've clocked up about 1,500 miles so far this year :)
when i used to despatch ride in the early 90's i've covered that sort of mileage in a week on a kawa gt550 :D
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Need to buy a new battery - the fairing is showing the signs of removal every time I use it to jump the tinker ::)
Any specific advice on batteries - cheap is good, cheap and nasty is not so good.
Its a bit of pain every time we've thought of going for a blast & we have to wait half an hour for your battery to get some charge ;D
Then there is the trip to the petrol station & gambling if the bugger will start again ;D
Cant be arsed to charge anymore, I jump the tinker now ::)
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Have you got a battery conditioner to leave on it when it's not in use? I've got a CTek that gets plugged into the Westfield when it's not in use and it makes a big difference to battery life. :y
I was looking, but never got one. Have a cheapo Clarke trickle, but that causes a lot of gas in the battery, so probably too powerful...
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Got the same problem on mine. Left it stood idle for too long and now the battery has died. Must get it sorted and either sell it or start using it. :-/
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Its funny, I get called a poofter for having a GS, but at least I use it. All of you other "cool" kids with your faster road bikes don't use them ;D ;D
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Its funny, I get called a poofter for having a GS, but at least I use it. All of you other "cool" kids with your faster road bikes don't use them ;D ;D
No idea how many miles Ive covered on bikes since October 1975, but Im getting older (and more arthritic) and at the moment my interest seems to be waning. Ive no real problem about selling it, but theres that little thought in the back of my mind that if I do I probably wont get another,and to acknowledge that I wont ride bikes again- ever - is a big step tbh.
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Its funny, I get called a poofter for having a GS, but at least I use it. All of you other "cool" kids with your faster road bikes don't use them ;D ;D
Some of us have a fair few more miles than you do ;)
Additionally, remember that many of us are from a generation where you couldn't afford a car when you were 18, so had to get a bike. It was transport, not a plaything for middle aged men (you are old before your time ;D)
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I should point out, the ZX10 is far from 'cool'. It might have been back in its day, when you were still in short trousers, but its a very old bike now. But its stupidly cheap to run, costing less than £200 per year for tax, insurance and MOT. So its not exactly 'wasting' money if I don't ride it as much as a wannabe Jedi ;)
That said, a choice between my mashed-up ZX10 and a newer, reasonable condition GS1200, I know what I would pick ;)
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I used to like Yuasa batteries, but the forum's UPS eats them for breakfast (though I guess the heat doesn't help).
The last battery I bought for the ZX10 was one of those where you add the acid yourself, and I've never been impressed with it TBH - the bike does suffer warm-start issues, and is often left for weeks without use.
What would the life of a bike battery be - this is the first bike I've had where I've had to change the battery (twice!), though have had it a while now. Last time I checked, it was charging at about 14.5v at 3000rpm.
I've personally never had a problem with Yuasa's, except when the bike gets left for long periods of time without use. Even though they stay in the garage during the winter months, lack of use is the biggest killer and it won't make any odds how well the battery is built.
As the old saying goes, use it or lose it.
Like Kevin we have a CTEK conditioner (XS08), and I can confirm this has made a noticeable difference to the battery life on the bikes.
I'd personally buy a decent battery along with a charger/conditioner and just leave the condioner connected the whole time the bike is not in use (the conditioner is designed for that).
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I used to like Yuasa batteries, but the forum's UPS eats them for breakfast (though I guess the heat doesn't help).
The last battery I bought for the ZX10 was one of those where you add the acid yourself, and I've never been impressed with it TBH - the bike does suffer warm-start issues, and is often left for weeks without use.
What would the life of a bike battery be - this is the first bike I've had where I've had to change the battery (twice!), though have had it a while now. Last time I checked, it was charging at about 14.5v at 3000rpm.
I've personally never had a problem with Yuasa's, except when the bike gets left for long periods of time without use. Even though they stay in the garage during the winter months, lack of use is the biggest killer and it won't make any odds how well the battery is built.
As the old saying goes, use it or lose it.
Like Kevin we have a CTEK conditioner (XS08), and I can confirm this has made a noticeable difference to the battery life on the bikes.
I'd personally buy a decent battery along with a charger/conditioner and just leave the condioner connected the whole time the bike is not in use (the conditioner is designed for that).
Thanks for the advice Martian :y
Given that the ZX10 is so old, there is no drain on the battery when off, would you leave it on the bike when not in use, with conditioner on (permenently, or weekly/monthly session?)?
Any advice on where to buy batteries from?
Given my current battery gases a fair bit, would gel or fully sealed batts be better?
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One of these puppies, Martian?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ctek-CTE-XS08-6-Stage-Smart-Charger/dp/B004RADNCQ
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I should point out, the ZX10 is far from 'cool'. It might have been back in its day, when you were still in short trousers, but its a very old bike now. But its stupidly cheap to run, costing less than £200 per year for tax, insurance and MOT. So its not exactly 'wasting' money if I don't ride it as much as a wannabe Jedi ;)
That said, a choice between my mashed-up ZX10 and a newer, reasonable condition GS1200, I know what I would pick ;)
I would like to ride around the world, at some point. It inspired me. Maybe not in one go, but its a dream. Why is that so bad? :( :'(
I might not have the budget, planning or support. But a 1,000 trip to Isle of Man was at least a taster. With Scotland soon to follow....
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Given that the ZX10 is so old, there is no drain on the battery when off, would you leave it on the bike when not in use, with conditioner on (permenently, or weekly/monthly session?)?
We leave our's connected permanently, the conditioner/charger only outputs 800mA maximum which is spot on for the batteries we have (12Ah & 14Ah) and it does know when to charge and when not to so the battery doesn't get cooked.
Any advice on where to buy batteries from?
Unfortunately not, I got the last one from a small (backstreet) independant just around the corner from where we live and it was a Yuasa that was delivered to them (dry).
It is standard lead/acid and cost £25 about 5 months ago including the acid fill.
Given my current battery gases a fair bit, would gel or fully sealed batts be better?
Like you I suspect your charger may have been putting out a bit too much charge current (hence the gassing). An ideal bench charge rate for a battery is one tenth it's Ah rating.
I don't think a gel battery would last very long to be honest, gel batteries require different charging voltages (slightly lower than lead/acid) and the charge rate has to be more tightly controlled (which your regulator won't be able to do).
Failure to observe the charging rules for gel batteries leads to their early demise quite quickly.
As far as a sealed LA battery goes, the only advantage I see to them is that you can't get burnt if you inadvertently knock the battery over. I personally prefer the ability to top the electrolyte up if it's getting low.
One of these puppies, Martian?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ctek-CTE-XS08-6-Stage-Smart-Charger/dp/B004RADNCQ
That's the very same :y
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I should point out, the ZX10 is far from 'cool'. It might have been back in its day, when you were still in short trousers, but its a very old bike now. But its stupidly cheap to run, costing less than £200 per year for tax, insurance and MOT. So its not exactly 'wasting' money if I don't ride it as much as a wannabe Jedi ;)
That said, a choice between my mashed-up ZX10 and a newer, reasonable condition GS1200, I know what I would pick ;)
I would like to ride around the world, at some point. It inspired me. Maybe not in one go, but its a dream. Why is that so bad? :( :'(
I might not have the budget, planning or support. But a 1,000 trip to Isle of Man was at least a taster. With Scotland soon to follow....
Each to there own, never said there was anything wrong with that. You just need to open your eyes to the fact that other people's views/needs/dreams may differ from yours ;)
So, does it matter mine only did 160+ miles last year ;)
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Thanks M.
Cheapest battery I can find online is £45 + delivery. I will call round the bike shops this week, see whats what :y
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I should point out, the ZX10 is far from 'cool'. It might have been back in its day, when you were still in short trousers, but its a very old bike now. But its stupidly cheap to run, costing less than £200 per year for tax, insurance and MOT. So its not exactly 'wasting' money if I don't ride it as much as a wannabe Jedi ;)
That said, a choice between my mashed-up ZX10 and a newer, reasonable condition GS1200, I know what I would pick ;)
I would like to ride around the world, at some point. It inspired me. Maybe not in one go, but its a dream. Why is that so bad? :( :'(
I might not have the budget, planning or support. But a 1,000 trip to Isle of Man was at least a taster. With Scotland soon to follow....
Each to there own, never said there was anything wrong with that. You just need to open your eyes to the fact that other people's views/needs/dreams may differ from yours ;)
So, does it matter mine only did 160+ miles last year ;)
Nope, but I like taking the wee wee as you so often do with me ;)
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Actually, I know the battery is shot in that it won't hold its charge for more than a week or 2, but it does take charge OK (in that it will, when charged, turn the bike over for a few attempts before dying). Would the conditioner help revive this battery? Worth a shot, or just buy a battery as well?
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Cost of that smart charger is £40, is it not worth just buying a new battery :-/
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My bike is only used now high days and holidays but sits on an optimate charger all the time. Does get a start every couple of months just to make sure it can and, so far, battery still holding out. I think current battery is about 4 or 5 years old, charger must be about 10 or 12 years old and still working fine....
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Thanks M.
Cheapest battery I can find online is £45 + delivery. I will call round the bike shops this week, see whats what :y
If yours is the 14L A2, I've just found it at £41.46 including VAT and delivery from Battery Masters
http://www.batterymasters.co.uk/Product-Yuasa-Yumicron-YB14L-A2,-12v-14Ah-Motorcycle-Batteries_2369.aspx
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Actually, I know the battery is shot in that it won't hold its charge for more than a week or 2, but it does take charge OK (in that it will, when charged, turn the bike over for a few attempts before dying). Would the conditioner help revive this battery? Worth a shot, or just buy a battery as well?
I doubt the conditioner will help, I expect it will be quite sulfated inside and this will be the cause of it's inability to perform.
I have had some success in the past with "shocking" batteries back in to life by hitting them with a couple of hundred amps from those car booster/starter jobbies (the proper ones on wheels), but the success rate has been less than 50% using that method.
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160 miles approx :-[
That's less than a tank of petrol :-[
;D ;D ;D ;D
I did more than that yesterday! ;D ;D ;D
It may have a " I-want-a-poofters-badge" - But at least mine uses more than a tank of fuel in a year :P
I've clocked up about 1,500 miles so far this year :)
I have no desire to star in Star Wars
I don't know there are lots of parts.
AFAIR you are not small - Jabba?
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ZX-10 was a fast bike....in it's day. :y
Aye, but it's day was long ago. Most 600cc sports bikes would probably give it a run for it's money in straight line, and murder it in the bends.
But it's cheap to run - 40-50mpg, £74 tax, £78 insurance fully comp including riding other bikes. Thus no desire to change it. It's still quick enough, and unpredictable enough to scare the living daylights out of me...
+ £30 MOT. 160 miles that works out at £1.13 a mile :o ;D
Words Poofter and gay spring to mind! ;D ;D
LPGing the cars has reduced the usefulness of the bike, that is true...
True when I first got the beemer i thought it was cheap as chips to run. Now its costs more, even getting 51mpg average yesterday, its still not as cheap as LPG :(
LPG the bike!
http://www.gastechproducts.com/gasconverter.html
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160 miles approx :-[
That's less than a tank of petrol :-[
Poofter! ;D
Shall I spray it 'oyster' ;)
May as well by the sound of it. :P
If you catch me eyeing up a Nokia N95, that will confirm that I've turned...
No Iphones are for turned people
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Actually, I know the battery is shot in that it won't hold its charge for more than a week or 2, but it does take charge OK (in that it will, when charged, turn the bike over for a few attempts before dying). Would the conditioner help revive this battery? Worth a shot, or just buy a battery as well?
I doubt the conditioner will help, I expect it will be quite sulfated inside and this will be the cause of it's inability to perform.
I have had some success in the past with "shocking" batteries back in to life by hitting them with a couple of hundred amps from those car booster/starter jobbies (the proper ones on wheels), but the success rate has been less than 50% using that method.
Do the little (bike) CTEKs not have a desulphate phase? The one I got a little while ago for the Nissan does - it's revived the 10V battery back up to a healthy 12V, and now it just stays connected.. (FWIW the battery was new, I just accidentally flattened it by leaving the boot ajar and the light on - didn't notice for a fortnight :-[)
So to TBs point - yes, just leave the thing connected ;) Once it's finished it's condition/charge/etc cycle it'll sit there monitoring the battery, giving it a little kick if & when it needs it.
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Cost of that smart charger is £40, is it not worth just buying a new battery :-/
Either way, given my usage, I have to get a conditioner ;)
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Thanks M.
Cheapest battery I can find online is £45 + delivery. I will call round the bike shops this week, see whats what :y
If yours is the 14L A2, I've just found it at £41.46 including VAT and delivery from Battery Masters
http://www.batterymasters.co.uk/Product-Yuasa-Yumicron-YB14L-A2,-12v-14Ah-Motorcycle-Batteries_2369.aspx
Plus the acid, any idea how much that is? MDSBattery are around same price (more expensive, but free delivery), and will supply acid for a tenner...
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Hav'nt had a bike since my 600 Bandit (pre OOF) but like my many classic cars sometimes stood a little longer than we might like. I've read with interest all the comments on certain chargers, thier drawbacks, advantages & prices.
Dunno about all that faff & expense, all i've ever done is open the garage door & bark 'em up a couple of times a week. Bounce the suspension, move 'em back & forth etc.
Surely this is better for any car/bike than a plug in gimmick & you save the money? ::)
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Surely this is better for any car/bike than a plug in gimmick & you save the money? ::)
I beg to differ. I don't fire up an engine unless I'm going to drive it. It fills the engine and exhaust with water vapour and acid products of combustion but nothing gets hot enough to boil it off again unless you drive it.
Battery conditioners mean you can forget about it for months on end and it'll fire up every time when you fancy a drive.
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160 miles approx :-[
That's less than a tank of petrol :-[
Poofter! ;D
Shall I spray it 'oyster' ;)
May as well by the sound of it. :P
If you catch me eyeing up a Nokia N95, that will confirm that I've turned...
No Iphones are for turned people
All part of a groomers rhetoric Martin... :D. Take no notice. He used to have an N95 as well. It's how we "Met". Or so he believes. ;)
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Surely this is better for any car/bike than a plug in gimmick & you save the money? ::)
I beg to differ. I don't fire up an engine unless I'm going to drive it. It fills the engine and exhaust with water vapour and acid products of combustion but nothing gets hot enough to boil it off again unless you drive it.
Battery conditioners mean you can forget about it for months on end and it'll fire up every time when you fancy a drive.
....and is why my Fireblade hasn't turned a revolution since the end of the last session of the last track day. Over a year ago. :-[
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160 miles approx :-[
That's less than a tank of petrol :-[
Poofter! ;D
Shall I spray it 'oyster' ;)
May as well by the sound of it. :P
If you catch me eyeing up a Nokia N95, that will confirm that I've turned...
No Iphones are for turned people
All part of a groomers rhetoric Martin... :D. Take no notice. He used to have an N95 as well. It's how we "Met". Or so he believes. ;)
Whilst I'm happy to admit to owning a gayPhone, and have for over 18 months, and I (briefly) owned a gold/Champayne Omega, I can, hand on my heart, state I have never, ever, ever owned that useless piece of kack that is the N95. I'm not that gay...
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160 miles approx :-[
That's less than a tank of petrol :-[
Poofter! ;D
Shall I spray it 'oyster' ;)
May as well by the sound of it. :P
If you catch me eyeing up a Nokia N95, that will confirm that I've turned...
No Iphones are for turned people
All part of a groomers rhetoric Martin... :D. Take no notice. He used to have an N95 as well. It's how we "Met". Or so he believes. ;)
Whilst I'm happy to admit to owning a gayPhone, and have for over 18 months, and I (briefly) owned a gold/Champayne Omega, I can, hand on my heart, state I have never, ever, ever owned that useless piece of kack that is the N95. I'm not that gay...
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Whilst I'm happy to admit to owning a gayPhone, and have for over 18 months, and I (briefly) owned a gold/Champayne Omega, I can, hand on my heart, state I have never, ever, ever owned that useless piece of kack that is the N95. I'm not that gay...
Please tell me you have (at the very least) jailbroken it, if not then I'm afraid Steve Jobs is balls deep in your rectum ;D
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Whilst I'm happy to admit to owning a gayPhone, and have for over 18 months, and I (briefly) owned a gold/Champayne Omega, I can, hand on my heart, state I have never, ever, ever owned that useless piece of kack that is the N95. I'm not that gay...
Please tell me you have (at the very least) jailbroken it, if not then I'm afraid Steve Jobs is balls deep in your rectum ;D
Steve "we are not worthy of being in your presence" Jobs says I am not allowed to Jailbreak it. Or run Flash. He says I have to plug it in to gayTunes so he can decide whether or not to wipe my music collection because my tastes do not meet with his approval.
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Whilst I'm happy to admit to owning a gayPhone, and have for over 18 months, and I (briefly) owned a gold/Champayne Omega, I can, hand on my heart, state I have never, ever, ever owned that useless piece of kack that is the N95. I'm not that gay...
Please tell me you have (at the very least) jailbroken it, if not then I'm afraid Steve Jobs is balls deep in your rectum ;D
Steve "we are not worthy of being in your presence" Jobs says I am not allowed to Jailbreak it. Or run Flash. He says I have to plug it in to gayTunes so he can decide whether or not to wipe my music collection because my tastes do not meet with his approval.
Steve Knobs can bugger off! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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gayTunes to me seems almost virus like.
Had to fix a PC with it on once and I found it was a right resource hog.
Due to someone owning a gayPod I was not allowed to uninstall it. >:( >:(
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Whilst I'm happy to admit to owning a gayPhone, and have for over 18 months, and I (briefly) owned a gold/Champayne Omega, I can, hand on my heart, state I have never, ever, ever owned that useless piece of kack that is the N95. I'm not that gay...
Please tell me you have (at the very least) jailbroken it, if not then I'm afraid Steve Jobs is balls deep in your rectum ;D
Steve "we are not worthy of being in your presence" Jobs says I am not allowed to Jailbreak it. Or run Flash. He says I have to plug it in to gayTunes so he can decide whether or not to wipe my music collection because my tastes do not meet with his approval.
Steve Knobs can bugger off! ;D ;D ;D ;D
See how wonderful Microsoft are? ;)
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I've jailbroken mine, I only use iTunes a couple of times a year. I tend to SSH the .IPA installs to the phone directly rather than use iTunes. I've stopped using Installous as the rare times I do sync it, it often decided to remove any Apps that i've installed from it.
Once jailbroken you can almost junk iTunes rubbish :)
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I've jailbroken mine, I only use iTunes a couple of times a year. I tend to SSH the .IPA installs to the phone directly rather than use iTunes. I've stopped using Installous as the rare times I do sync it, it often decided to remove any Apps that i've installed from it.
Once jailbroken you can almost junk iTunes rubbish :)
There are better ways than having SSH open for all to attack. Remember, if you have jailbroken it, you have removed a protection layer, and who knows how vulnerable the sshd is on the iphone ;)
I, most definately, do not run an sshd on my gayphone.
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I've jailbroken mine, I only use iTunes a couple of times a year. I tend to SSH the .IPA installs to the phone directly rather than use iTunes. I've stopped using Installous as the rare times I do sync it, it often decided to remove any Apps that i've installed from it.
Once jailbroken you can almost junk iTunes rubbish :)
There are better ways than having SSH open for all to attack. Remember, if you have jailbroken it, you have removed a protection layer, and who knows how vulnerable the sshd is on the iphone ;)
I, most definately, do not run an sshd on my gayphone.
WiFi off, its going to be fairly difficult to gain access....
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I've jailbroken mine, I only use iTunes a couple of times a year. I tend to SSH the .IPA installs to the phone directly rather than use iTunes. I've stopped using Installous as the rare times I do sync it, it often decided to remove any Apps that i've installed from it.
Once jailbroken you can almost junk iTunes rubbish :)
There are better ways than having SSH open for all to attack. Remember, if you have jailbroken it, you have removed a protection layer, and who knows how vulnerable the sshd is on the iphone ;)
I, most definately, do not run an sshd on my gayphone.
WiFi off, its going to be fairly difficult to gain access....
Don't be daft. You have GPRS/Edge/3G on? Therefore its accessible.
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Surely this is better for any car/bike than a plug in gimmick & you save the money? ::)
I beg to differ. I don't fire up an engine unless I'm going to drive it. It fills the engine and exhaust with water vapour and acid products of combustion but nothing gets hot enough to boil it off again unless you drive it.
Battery conditioners mean you can forget about it for months on end and it'll fire up every time when you fancy a drive.
Point taken, Are they not ok if run up to running temp, choke off, 20 minutes etc? That said probably spend more on cans of petrol but at least they go in & out of gear, get moved back & forth so tyres don't square off, clutch does'nt stick etc?.
I take the Cortina out at least every couple of weeks, usually more although it did go 5 or 6 weeks once but still barked up.
Why lay them up for so long in the first place? Best to keep using them surely? :y
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Steve "we are not worthy of being in your presence" Jobs says I am not allowed to Jailbreak it. Or run Flash. He says I have to plug it in to gayTunes so he can decide whether or not to wipe my music collection because my tastes do not meet with his approval.
While you have neither admitted or denied jailbreaking so far in this thread (very good BTW, you should be a politician ;D ), can one assume that if you freely accept such draconian terms on how you may use something that you have purchased that you are the bitch in your household?
;D ;D
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Steve "we are not worthy of being in your presence" Jobs says I am not allowed to Jailbreak it. Or run Flash. He says I have to plug it in to gayTunes so he can decide whether or not to wipe my music collection because my tastes do not meet with his approval.
While you have neither admitted or denied jailbreaking so far in this thread (very good BTW, you should be a politician ;D ), can one assume that if you freely accept such draconian terms on how you may use something that you have purchased that you are the bitch in your household?
;D ;D
I wear the trousers in this house. Except at the weekends, when I put on my heels and frocks ;D
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Steve "we are not worthy of being in your presence" Jobs says I am not allowed to Jailbreak it. Or run Flash. He says I have to plug it in to gayTunes so he can decide whether or not to wipe my music collection because my tastes do not meet with his approval.
While you have neither admitted or denied jailbreaking so far in this thread (very good BTW, you should be a politician ;D ), can one assume that if you freely accept such draconian terms on how you may use something that you have purchased that you are the bitch in your household?
;D ;D
I wear the trousers in this house. Except at the weekends, when I put on my heels and frocks ;D
Really? ::) ::)
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Steve "we are not worthy of being in your presence" Jobs says I am not allowed to Jailbreak it. Or run Flash. He says I have to plug it in to gayTunes so he can decide whether or not to wipe my music collection because my tastes do not meet with his approval.
While you have neither admitted or denied jailbreaking so far in this thread (very good BTW, you should be a politician ;D ), can one assume that if you freely accept such draconian terms on how you may use something that you have purchased that you are the bitch in your household?
;D ;D
I wear the trousers in this house. Except at the weekends, when I put on my heels and frocks ;D
Really? ::) ::)
When Mrs TB says he can obviously. ;D