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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Martin_1962 on 17 August 2011, 11:56:07
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Actually not the phone but the software.
Wanted to check the maps so the software kindly wiped them and failed to download new maps as the server is dodgy.
Manually downloaded UK and copied it in (only took a day).
Map software cannot find maps and wants to download them, which it can't as the server is U/S.
What a bunch of useless incompetent tossers! >:( >:(
Looks like I will need a satnav now >:( >:(
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Hence Nokia are going down the pan fast and have resorted to suicidal measures (doing business with M$). ;)
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Hence Nokia are going down the pan fast and have resorted to suicidal measures (doing business with M$). ;)
Looks like our next phones will be Nokia too. :(
Appears Android ones are not listed in the options. :(
Looks like it is time to buy a cheap sat nav.
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Personally, I have never had anything but Nokia's and have always found them to be good for my needs. Never really used the maps on them that much though, I would much rather plan it before I leave the house and have a good old paper atlas in the car incase of emergencies.
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Used it a few times - just wanted new maps so the naff OVI program removed data without having new data available.
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Personally, I have never had anything but Nokia's and have always found them to be good for my needs. Never really used the maps on them that much though, I would much rather plan it before I leave the house and have a good old paper atlas in the car incase of emergencies.
Yes, me too. But if I wanted a smart phone instead of just speech calls and SMS it would be a different story. ;)
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I was just in Tesco - they do a Blackberry Curve for £15.50 a month, it seems. That seems very cheap to me - anyone know anything about it?
Meanwhile, I love my SE W995i, even if it is decidedly not smart. May have to fork out £40 to activate the built-in satnav in the next week or two, as I no longer trust the one in the car - these days, it's got a worse sense of direction than my wife, which is saying a lot. And the two of them argue all the time. :)
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Personally, I have never had anything but Nokia's and have always found them to be good for my needs. Never really used the maps on them that much though, I would much rather plan it before I leave the house and have a good old paper atlas in the car incase of emergencies.
Yes, me too. But if I wanted a smart phone instead of just speech calls and SMS it would be a different story. ;)
That would involve you knowing where your phone actually is half the time too ::) ::) :D :D
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I have had nothing but Nokias since the 3210 was the highest spec phone you could get. Have had a Nokia N8 since just before they were officially released and i have to say, totally impressed with everything on it except the occasional freezing, swithing off then back on again.
Dropped it off to Voda who sent it back to Nokia 3 times, who flashed it and sent it back yet still the problem persisted. Voda then sent a strong email to nokia demanding they replace it (which they did yesterday with a refurbished model)
Maps on it is as good, if not better than many of the satnavs i have used (i pay an extra £2.50 a month for that) and never sent me down a dead end yet lol. One of the best cameras i have ever seen on a phone yet, all the apps are used (with exception to the tv ones, phone aint for watching telly lol)
Will agree though that the future for Nokia is somewhat muffled at the moment, maybe the move with MS will push them back where they once were.
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Don't try to update the mapping software - keeps failing at present
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Funny you say that, when i got the refurbished unit back yesterday, first thing it told me when i switched it on was the updates, one of which included the ovi maps update. Would not download at all but the good thing with Voda and the N8 is that i have both Voda travel and Ovi maps so shall be using Voda for the time being should i need it.
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Very happy with Nokias but do not use them for Sat Nav in car - have used Ovi maps as walker without problem.
I have not had Martin's problems on updates.
The VW's love Nokia as the in car system is Nokia built - "remote sim access profile" RSAP and I have been very happy with this on Phaeton
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Personally, I have never had anything but Nokia's and have always found them to be good for my needs. Never really used the maps on them that much though, I would much rather plan it before I leave the house and have a good old paper atlas in the car incase of emergencies.
Yes, me too. But if I wanted a smart phone instead of just speech calls and SMS it would be a different story. ;)
That would involve you knowing where your phone actually is half the time too ::) ::) :D :D
Eh? :-/ :o
It's.. Erm.. :-[ Well, I've got a whole cupboard of them here. Some of them might be getting collectable now. Nokia 2110 anyone? Motorola Micro-Tac? Remember Sendo, Bosch, Panasonic? Nokia 9000 Communicator?
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(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll307/rehaboam/DSC00045a.jpg)
The one on the left is an Orbitel. The three on the right were all sitting on my desk for some reason. I think there may be some more around somewhere - seems a pity to throw them away.
Talking of which, while searchng for a misplaced piece of holiday equipment just now, I came across a box which, amongst other things, contained a Zip drive. :)
I really must have a clearout some time :) :) :)
You can't see my W995 - I used it to take the picture :D
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Serves you right for having a dead end phone. Nokia lost their way years ago, with their best phone being the 6310i.
Kevin Wood - Microsoft were Nokia's best chance, Due to no direction for the past few years, daft decisions with Symbian development that meant nobody else would licence it, and a desire to get a Linux one working not for the right reasons, have left them as a has-been behind everyone else. Apple, MS and Google have the market sewn up. Apple won't licence, had they have gone with Google, they would have been just yet another Android maker (and probably uncompetitive), so were left with MS.
Gooseberrys - don't bother unless you have a need for the Enterprise features that RIM offer with remote provisioning and control. With the ease of use of iOS and Android now, and the tools now available for provisioning, many corporates have started to move away from Gooseberrys with their expensive BES setups, thus RIM are in a desperate fight and aggressively chasing the consumer market in order to stay afloat. They don't work that well without BES to be honest, so don't make a good consumer phone, when compared to the current cream of smartphones (iPhone, Android, Windows Phone 7 (and WebOS to a lesser extent)). As Tesco flog Android based phones on PAYG for £60, you'd have to not have all your dogs on one lead to go down the Gooseberry route...
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Sorry, just seen the title. I assume the *'s are masking some word that you feel is not suitable for OOF. Thus it breaks the rules, thus please refrain.
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Sorry, just seen the title. I assume the *'s are masking some word that you feel is not suitable for OOF. Thus it breaks the rules, thus please refrain.
i thought it was because he couldnt spell!
i was always taught that you shouldnt assume as it makes a donkey[word change] out of you and me. :y
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Symbian was the muts for years, 10 to 15(?) years ago. Before anyone ever heard of smartphones. Which says it all. Nokia, learn to promote your bloody phones other than their physical appearance. Muppets. >:(
They had the whole smartphone market in their hand!
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I eventually got it working.
Took 5 hours to download UK with a download manager
Stupid phone took 4 or 5 goes to recognise the maps.
Now all I need to do is get the LPG list on the stupid thing
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Orbitel... There's a name from the past. :o Spent some time there in the past - they were based in Basingstoke.
Kevin Wood - Microsoft were Nokia's best chance
Yes, they are in the last chance saloon, after all, but the fact remains that others before them have been asset stripped and dumped on the scrap heap, only to find their technology end up in some tacky Taiwanese Windoze branded phone. ;)
It is quite staggering that Nokia haven't come up with something usable themselves for the man-hours that they have sunk into smartphone development over the years, though. They must have sunk in many times crApple's level of investment.
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Nothing I hear about Nokia surprises me. I first encountered them in 1973 when I joined a very new but very prestigious software house in London. (They're now huge and very well known indeed - but I was number 207 in their personnel list.) On my first morning, I was given a report to write concerning a new system for a Finnish bank. I pointed out that I was a mere programmer, and knew very little about how to produce such reports and absolutely nothing about banking systems, and they must be mad to trust me with such a responsible job. "Oh, no", they said, "don't worry, our name won't be on the report - Nokia asked us to do it on their behalf, so it doesn't need to be very good."
I never quite worked out what was actually going on, but I've avoided Nokia like the plague ever since. My report really wasn't very good (it could have come from a bumf generator if they'd had them back then), but Nokia paid up and I never heard anything more about it. :)
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I have had nothing but Nokias since the 3210 was the highest spec phone you could get. Have had a Nokia N8 since just before they were officially released and i have to say, totally impressed with everything on it except the occasional freezing, swithing off then back on again.
Dropped it off to Voda who sent it back to Nokia 3 times, who flashed it and sent it back yet still the problem persisted. Voda then sent a strong email to nokia demanding they replace it (which they did yesterday with a refurbished model)
Maps on it is as good, if not better than many of the satnavs i have used (i pay an extra £2.50 a month for that) and never sent me down a dead end yet lol. One of the best cameras i have ever seen on a phone yet, all the apps are used (with exception to the tv ones, phone aint for watching telly lol)
Will agree though that the future for Nokia is somewhat muffled at the moment, maybe the move with MS will push them back where they once were.
Thats what I currently have (N8), had an N900 before that. Camera on the N8 is brilliant, but you would expect it to be for a 12 megapixel :)
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I have N8 also, wife and daughter have x6 - no problems with any of the phones at present (one X6 was changed out a while ago by Orange due to power drain).
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I eventually got it working.
Took 5 hours to download UK with a download manager
Stupid phone took 4 or 5 goes to recognise the maps.
Now all I need to do is get the LPG list on the stupid thing
Martin - were you using the Ovi site to download from with the Ovi Nokia download manager?
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I eventually got it working.
Took 5 hours to download UK with a download manager
Stupid phone took 4 or 5 goes to recognise the maps.
Now all I need to do is get the LPG list on the stupid thing
Martin - were you using the Ovi site to download from with the Ovi Nokia download manager?
yes and it is knackered.
Nokia appear to be trying to ruin the OVI stuff in preparation for Windows phones
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Thats what I currently have (N8), had an N900 before that. Camera on the N8 is brilliant, but you would expect it to be for a 12 megapixel :)
Ah, megapixels. The measurement of ones manhood, nought more. Megapixels do not make good cameras. For example, my million year old canon camera will take a far better pic than any phone, yet lacks all your megapixel dubries.
N900, isn't that what GayBoy had before going down the iPhone route? Some (typically Nokia) halfbaked Linux with a great feature list, but unusable in practice?
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Thats what I currently have (N8), had an N900 before that. Camera on the N8 is brilliant, but you would expect it to be for a 12 megapixel :)
Ah, megapixels. The measurement of ones manhood, nought more. Megapixels do not make good cameras. For example, my million year old canon camera will take a far better pic than any phone, yet lacks all your megapixel dubries.
N900, isn't that what GayBoy had before going down the iPhone route? Some (typically Nokia) halfbaked Linux with a great feature list, but unusable in practice?
You used go say that of the n95 8gb, you where talking rubbish there. True of the n900 though Useless pile of shite apart from the camera.
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Thats what I currently have (N8), had an N900 before that. Camera on the N8 is brilliant, but you would expect it to be for a 12 megapixel :)
Ah, megapixels. The measurement of ones manhood, nought more. Megapixels do not make good cameras. For example, my million year old canon camera will take a far better pic than any phone, yet lacks all your megapixel dubries.
N900, isn't that what GayBoy had before going down the iPhone route? Some (typically Nokia) halfbaked Linux with a great feature list, but unusable in practice?
You used go say that of the n95 8gb, you where talking rubbish there. True of the n900 though Useless pile of shite apart from the camera.
The (non UK) N95's problem was ease of use, and half finished features. Fine for Nokia fans, used to that awful interface, and using it for little more than a phone/text and very simple email device. Oh, and in the case of N95, MP3 player.
UK models were pretty buggy as well, but there were plenty of hacks to put on the more stable euro firmwares.
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Ah, megapixels. The measurement of ones manhood, nought more. Megapixels do not make good cameras. For example, my million year old canon camera will take a far better pic than any phone, yet lacks all your megapixel dubries.
;D
I have some nice lenses for my DSLR, one or two of which might just about do justice to a 12MP sensor. Now, a crappy little plastic lens on the back of a mobile phone... Not likely. ;)
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Thats what I currently have (N8), had an N900 before that. Camera on the N8 is brilliant, but you would expect it to be for a 12 megapixel :)
Ah, megapixels. The measurement of ones manhood, nought more. Megapixels do not make good cameras. For example, my million year old canon camera will take a far better pic than any phone, yet lacks all your megapixel dubries.
N900, isn't that what GayBoy had before going down the iPhone route? Some (typically Nokia) halfbaked Linux with a great feature list, but unusable in practice?
You used go say that of the n95 8gb, you where talking rubbish there. True of the n900 though Useless pile of shite apart from the camera.
The (non UK) N95's problem was ease of use, and half finished features. Fine for Nokia fans, used to that awful interface, and using it for little more than a phone/text and very simple email device. Oh, and in the case of N95, MP3 player.
UK models were pretty buggy as well, but there were plenty of hacks to put on the more stable euro firmwares.
That's the early ones. In true Nokia tradition early firmwares are always shite. Later 8GIGABITE VERSION was far better. You know the score as well as anyone. A Nokia firmware is only ever good enough just before the next model comes out, which returns to shite again! Eejits. Really!
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Still haven't found a decent LPG file!
Missing 3 I know of and this is recent!!!!
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Thats what I currently have (N8), had an N900 before that. Camera on the N8 is brilliant, but you would expect it to be for a 12 megapixel :)
Ah, megapixels. The measurement of ones manhood, nought more. Megapixels do not make good cameras. For example, my million year old canon camera will take a far better pic than any phone, yet lacks all your megapixel dubries.
N900, isn't that what GayBoy had before going down the iPhone route? Some (typically Nokia) halfbaked Linux with a great feature list, but unusable in practice?
My old 1mp stills on video camera were much much better than my mukti mega mobile ones
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Still haven't found a decent LPG file!
Missing 3 I know of and this is recent!!!!
I tend to use the Autogas one, but mostly only covers shell with LPG.
Still, better than nought, and free from their website
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N95 i had never had a single problem in the 2 years i was using it. Dropped countless times an d i think the only problem i had was the battery cover clip broke. Moved onto the n86 as soon as it came out, again, intuitive workings (typical nokia really) and again, never had a single problem with.
Both were good for what i needed for, calls, texts, pictures and the occasional video around a track :)
TB, kinda get what you say about mp, however, i have owned my fair share of high end cameras and i gotta be honest, the n8 blitz's them totally. The high def recording is definately a huge plus as well.
At the end of the day, i think its all down to 'each one to their own' :)
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i think its all down to 'each one to their own' :)
Absolutely :y
I use a stupid gayPhone, but only because it nearly meets my precise needs, and is closer to anything else out there. But I couldn't/won't recommend it to everyone, and very few have my requirements.
As to dropping Nokias, thats always risky - often causes them to switch off randomly.
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i think its all down to 'each one to their own' :)
Absolutely :y
I use a stupid gayPhone, but only because it nearly meets my precise needs, and is closer to anything else out there. But I couldn't/won't recommend it to everyone, and very few have my requirements.
As to dropping Nokias, thats always risky - often causes them to switch off randomly.
I hear a lot of people using that excuse for iphones and blackberries. As for the random switching on and off, never once dropped my n8 and it was doing that for a hobby! Now have a nice shiny new one and 'hopefully', its one of the later produced, bug free ones ;D
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Thats what I currently have (N8), had an N900 before that. Camera on the N8 is brilliant, but you would expect it to be for a 12 megapixel :)
Ah, megapixels. The measurement of ones manhood, nought more. Megapixels do not make good cameras. For example, my million year old canon camera will take a far better pic than any phone, yet lacks all your megapixel dubries.
N900, isn't that what GayBoy had before going down the iPhone route? Some (typically Nokia) halfbaked Linux with a great feature list, but unusable in practice?
You used go say that of the n95 8gb, you where talking rubbish there. True of the n900 though Useless pile of shite apart from the camera.
I have the n900 and I couldn't agree more! Gutted - 18month contract - 6 months left :-/
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Thats what I currently have (N8), had an N900 before that. Camera on the N8 is brilliant, but you would expect it to be for a 12 megapixel :)
Ah, megapixels. The measurement of ones manhood, nought more. Megapixels do not make good cameras. For example, my million year old canon camera will take a far better pic than any phone, yet lacks all your megapixel dubries.
N900, isn't that what GayBoy had before going down the iPhone route? Some (typically Nokia) halfbaked Linux with a great feature list, but unusable in practice?
You used go say that of the n95 8gb, you where talking rubbish there. True of the n900 though Useless pile of shite apart from the camera.
I have the n900 and I couldn't agree more! Gutted - 18month contract - 6 months left :-/
I think chrisgixer hated his so much that he just took out a new contract, and paid off the old one :o
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Thats what I currently have (N8), had an N900 before that. Camera on the N8 is brilliant, but you would expect it to be for a 12 megapixel :)
Ah, megapixels. The measurement of ones manhood, nought more. Megapixels do not make good cameras. For example, my million year old canon camera will take a far better pic than any phone, yet lacks all your megapixel dubries.
N900, isn't that what GayBoy had before going down the iPhone route? Some (typically Nokia) halfbaked Linux with a great feature list, but unusable in practice?
You used go say that of the n95 8gb, you where talking rubbish there. True of the n900 though Useless pile of shite apart from the camera.
I have the n900 and I couldn't agree more! Gutted - 18month contract - 6 months left :-/
I think chrisgixer hated his so much that he just took out a new contract, and paid off the old one :o
Yep, couldn't bare it. 8 months of two contracts. It really is that bad, esp using oof. The number of times it lost a post. A long one usually.
True multitasker though. Something apple still dont understand.
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True multitasker though. Something apple still dont understand.
As I was previously a WinMo 6.5 user, going to a crApple 3.12 iPhone, I though multitasking was going to be a bigger issue than it was. Turned out, I didn't need more than what pre iOS4 offered (ie, could play gayPod when using apps ;D).
But then, after years with WinMo and Nokia, it turned out I just wanted a rather phone that just worked as it claimed to ;D
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True multitasker though. Something apple still dont understand.
As I was previously a WinMo 6.5 user, going to a crApple 3.12 iPhone, I though multitasking was going to be a bigger issue than it was. Turned out, I didn't need more than what pre iOS4 offered (ie, could play gayPod when using apps ;D).
But then, after years with WinMo and Nokia, it turned out I just wanted a rather phone that just worked as it claimed to ;D
Indeed. But.... So what defines a smart phone exactly..?
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I had various Symbian S60 phones, not bad could run tomtom and apps and all kinds, way before iPhone.
Where Apple have done well, is they made just one phone. Made it simple, well built & stable.
I used to be a Nokia man, but their quality went down hill fast, they just turn out crap now.
I do rather like Sony Ericsson Experia though, its like a little PSP which is also phone, shame its so heavy :(
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True multitasker though. Something apple still dont understand.
As I was previously a WinMo 6.5 user, going to a crApple 3.12 iPhone, I though multitasking was going to be a bigger issue than it was. Turned out, I didn't need more than what pre iOS4 offered (ie, could play gayPod when using apps ;D).
But then, after years with WinMo and Nokia, it turned out I just wanted a rather phone that just worked as it claimed to ;D
I need a photo bucket app that doesn't close when I go back to the the web to post a link. So that when I go back to photo bucket to copy a second link I don't have to go through the process of finding the second picture, which was directly next to first one ready and waiting. THAT is just rubbish, I basic requirement of a smart phone...
...well, second in line to the device actually working as advertised that is. ;D
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I had various Symbian S60 phones, not bad could run tomtom and apps and all kinds, way before iPhone.
Where Apple have done well, is they made just one phone. Made it simple, well built & stable.
I used to be a Nokia man, but their quality went down hill fast, they just turn out crap now.
I do rather like Sony Ericsson Experia though, its like a little PSP which is also phone, shame its so heavy :(
The Experias I've seen seem to wear quickly, with the keyboard mechanism allowing the keyboard to become loose. IIRC, they are made by HTC, so that would explain it.
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True multitasker though. Something apple still dont understand.
As I was previously a WinMo 6.5 user, going to a crApple 3.12 iPhone, I though multitasking was going to be a bigger issue than it was. Turned out, I didn't need more than what pre iOS4 offered (ie, could play gayPod when using apps ;D).
But then, after years with WinMo and Nokia, it turned out I just wanted a rather phone that just worked as it claimed to ;D
I need a photo bucket app that doesn't close when I go back to the the web to post a link. So that when I go back to photo bucket to copy a second link I don't have to go through the process of finding the second picture, which was directly next to first one ready and waiting. THAT is just rubbish, I basic requirement of a smart phone...
...well, second in line to the device actually working as advertised that is. ;D
There is a photobucket app :o Doh, I always do it the hard way ;D
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THat said, I've stopped using free services like that, as they have got too slow, and buggers up OOF, as page loads wait for avatars etc to load, before giving up. I can't help what others use, but chose not to use it myself and make matters worse...