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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Ronald_McBurger on 10 June 2007, 20:11:06
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I conceded and allowed the honourable Laidback top lend a VERy big hand today. We had a considerable wait while the promised engine didn't arrive. hoist ready, us ready. no engine.
Then after an ear bending to matey with said engine, he finally dropped it off.
We chnaged all the cut hoses whilst we had acces to the back, then the entire loom changed over. then a gentle hoist intop the air, push, lower a bit, push a bit more and ....er job done. 20 mins.
Ok, so that is just the engine in, gearbox still to mate up, then ALL the wiring loom to sort and resolder cut wires for the LPG. Then DEFINITELY rocker gaskets and most likely cambelt and water pump as well as a normal service/oil & filters etc.
So, another week yet.
HUGE ta-very-much-like to Dave, who came around in his new toy. I must say that must be bargain of the year. ! VERY cheap facelift + 1 oil cooler = HUGE profit for him. Good business mate.
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Good to hear that you were messing about doing not very much while everyone else got down to the serious business of relaxing and drinking beer. :y
Sounds a productive weekend to you both. Well done.... ;)
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I conceded and allowed the honourable Laidback top lend a VERy big hand today. We had a considerable wait while the promised engine didn't arrive. hoist ready, us ready. no engine.
Then after an ear bending to matey with said engine, he finally dropped it off.
We chnaged all the cut hoses whilst we had acces to the back, then the entire loom changed over. then a gentle hoist intop the air, push, lower a bit, push a bit more and ....er job done. 20 mins.
Ok, so that is just the engine in, gearbox still to mate up, then ALL the wiring loom to sort and resolder cut wires for the LPG. Then DEFINITELY rocker gaskets and most likely cambelt and water pump as well as a normal service/oil & filters etc.
So, another week yet.
HUGE ta-very-much-like to Dave, who came around in his new toy. I must say that must be bargain of the year. ! VERY cheap facelift + 1 oil cooler = HUGE profit for him. Good business mate.
I can confirm this was an EXTREMELY cheap facelift... almost as much as a bargain as the LPG estate...
Pleased it's still going strong Dave :y
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Dropping engine in was the easy bit.... ;)
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Dropping engine in was the easy bit.... ;)
Show off ;D
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Dropping engine in was the easy bit.... ;)
Show off ;D
Not at all. :)
The challenging bit is connecting all the wiring, mating up the gearbox and exhaust and then getting the damn thing to start! ;D
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Did you do the timing belt, exhaust manifold gaskets and cam cover gaskets before it went in?
What type of oil filter did the replacement have?
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Did you do the timing belt, exhaust manifold gaskets and cam cover gaskets before it went in?
What type of oil filter did the replacement have?
Hey I was just the labourer! ;D
I think he is planning to do timing belt and cam cover gaskets in situ.
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I take it that the answer to all the above was no then.......
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I think the answer is "they are in the schedule of works for completion at a later date" ;)
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As this is a brand new factory replacement engine, the ansewr is no.
Ok, so it looks like an old oily leakiy engine, but that is just clever 'aging'.
NO, didn't do any of that. Cambelt I would rather do in situ. rocker gaskets need doing, but I didn't have time on Sunday because the engine arrived 5 hours late! I didn't fancy putting that engine crane up again, or hoping Dave passed by on Monday!
PLUS I had my new corsa CDTi to fix :( which I did today. Newq hub, shoes and drop links. Boooooooo!
Wiring for the Elite is a foddle. So is plumbing. Cambelt a sinch, water pump ditto. BUT I am doing nothing until I hear this mother running. THEN and only then will I strip down for the cambelt and rocker gaskets. Then, the LPG, then finally the rest!
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Still think its a foolish move not doing the manifold gaskets..... :y
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Still think its a foolish move not doing the manifold gaskets..... :y
Aye... the rockers and cambelt are fine to do in situ... I would have done the manifolds while out though :)
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Still think its a foolish move not doing the manifold gaskets..... :y
Well, you weren't here were you. I was and so was Dave. The engine arrived at about 3pm. We then had to get it in the car. There was no time to faff around with airy fairy sodding gaskets, that may not even need doing. There is no way I was leaving the engine out overnight and I also had my work car to fix, which as it turned out meant I had to cancel todays lessons and a driving test.
I was not and am not interested in doing manifold gaskets just because they are there. I could have painted the covers pink too, but decided not to do that either.
There. Told.
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Still think its a foolish move not doing the manifold gaskets..... :y
Aye... the rockers and cambelt are fine to do in situ... I would have done the manifolds while out though :)
Yeah, you too James. And just when would I have put the engine in then?
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Still think its a foolish move not doing the manifold gaskets..... :y
Aye... the rockers and cambelt are fine to do in situ... I would have done the manifolds while out though :)
Yeah, you too James. And just when would I have put the engine in then?
Fin Fin Fin...
Nobody is getting at you mate.
All I said, is, that if it was me I would have done the manifold gaskets. If other issues such as time constraints, other commitments or anything else meant you didn't want to or weren't in a position to do them - that's entirely your choice, and I respect you've got your reasons.
In fairness to Mark, he didn't suggest changing the gaskets because they are there (to quote your above post). He suggested changing them because on a second hand engine that you haven't heard running (presumption) - you cannot guarantee they don't blow - and as we all know, those particular gaskets are a lot easier to do properly with the engine out rather than in, so potentially it could save you a lot of time and bother.
Looking at it from your side of the fence... if a stud had of snapped on you, then you could have been set back by even longer, so I can also see some advantages in leaving the gaskets be.
Bottom line, this section of the forum is for general chat and sharing of opinions - which will never always be the same. I'm pretty confident in that 99.9% of anything said or suggested here is intented to be nothing but helpful and constructive.
That's certainly all I ever try to do. So my apologies if it came across any differently.
:'(
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Still think its a foolish move not doing the manifold gaskets..... :y
Well, you weren't here were you. I was and so was Dave. The engine arrived at about 3pm. We then had to get it in the car. There was no time to faff around with airy fairy sodding gaskets, that may not even need doing. There is no way I was leaving the engine out overnight and I also had my work car to fix, which as it turned out meant I had to cancel todays lessons and a driving test.
I was not and am not interested in doing manifold gaskets just because they are there. I could have painted the covers pink too, but decided not to do that either.
There. Told.
30 mins work to do two manifold gaskets.......and the chances are one will be blowing which detracts from the value....
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Oh good grief! ::)
I know why Fin did what he did. Time was a major constraint after we were left waiting for a considerable time for delivery of the engine.
When it finally arrived he was tired and frustrated. His mind also was more on how his son is, rather than ensuring everything is done before inserting the engine into the bay.
I know Mark is right when he says the manifolds should have been done with the engine out.
But (with the exception of Mark), we don't always do everything exactly as it should be.
If the engine has a blowing gasket, it will be replaced.
It would have been easier to do out of the car, but hey, such is life. ;)
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Oh good grief! ::)
I know why Fin did what he did. Time was a major constraint after we were left waiting for a considerable time for delivery of the engine.
When it finally arrived he was tired and frustrated. His mind also was more on how his son is, rather than ensuring everything is done before inserting the engine into the bay.
I know Mark is right when he says the manifolds should have been done with the engine out.
But (with the exception of Mark), we don't always do everything exactly as it should be.
If the engine has a blowing gasket, it will be replaced.
It would have been easier to do out of the car, but hey, such is life. ;)
Hmmmm.....quite few gaskets blowing here ::) ;D ;D
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either way - well done to both of you getting the engine back in when time was a premium :y
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Oh good grief! ::)
I know why Fin did what he did. Time was a major constraint after we were left waiting for a considerable time for delivery of the engine.
When it finally arrived he was tired and frustrated. His mind also was more on how his son is, rather than ensuring everything is done before inserting the engine into the bay.
I know Mark is right when he says the manifolds should have been done with the engine out.
But (with the exception of Mark), we don't always do everything exactly as it should be.
If the engine has a blowing gasket, it will be replaced.
It would have been easier to do out of the car, but hey, such is life. ;)
Hmmmm.....quite few gaskets blowing here ::) ;D ;D
Not at all, just the sharing of opinions ;)
So when's the next lot of work being done, and when's the completion estimated? :)
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Oh good grief! ::)
I know why Fin did what he did. Time was a major constraint after we were left waiting for a considerable time for delivery of the engine.
When it finally arrived he was tired and frustrated. His mind also was more on how his son is, rather than ensuring everything is done before inserting the engine into the bay.
I know Mark is right when he says the manifolds should have been done with the engine out.
But (with the exception of Mark), we don't always do everything exactly as it should be.
If the engine has a blowing gasket, it will be replaced.
It would have been easier to do out of the car, but hey, such is life. ;)
Hmmmm.....quite few gaskets blowing here ::) ;D ;D
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