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Title: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: SJKOO01 on 08 August 2009, 20:27:21
Well just spent this afternoon stripping my headlights down to do the black Euro look.
Was pleased with myself, and till I went to do the 2nd light and broke one of the plastic adjusters inside the light unit - Doh !!.
Out with the superglue and join up the jigsaw of bits back together, guess the project will take a little longer now - damn it !  ::)

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af113/om3g22tf/MigEurolights2.jpg)

Wasn't too difficult to do, and will be spending my evenings rubbing down the chrome to white plastic now, then down with the satin black paint.

post the pics once there on my Mig, don't hold your breath it'l be soon though after my mishap !.  ::)

M
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: elitekev on 08 August 2009, 23:47:51
how easy was the clear lense on the front to get off, because i got to strip mine to sort the adjusters?, as they're already broke when i bought the car
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: unlucky alf on 09 August 2009, 00:21:25
heat the sealed edge with a hair drier & carefully prise it apart as you go :y
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: Welung666 on 09 August 2009, 11:30:55
I'm looking forward to seeing them finished Matt :y
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: SJKOO01 on 09 August 2009, 12:00:21
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how easy was the clear lense on the front to get off, because i got to strip mine to sort the adjusters?, as they're already broke when i bought the car

As said above.

Most important thing is take your time, don't rush it as that's where mistakes happen.  Oh and make sure your not waring your sunday best outfit, as the sealant they've used loves to go  a wondering  ;D .

I haven't got the sticky stuff off the lens yet, but doubt it'll be too difficult  ::) .

M
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: Welung666 on 09 August 2009, 12:15:33
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how easy was the clear lense on the front to get off, because i got to strip mine to sort the adjusters?, as they're already broke when i bought the car

As said above.

Most important thing is take your time, don't rush it as that's where mistakes happen.  Oh and make sure your not waring your sunday best outfit, as the sealant they've used loves to go  a wondering  ;D .

I haven't got the sticky stuff off the lens yet, but doubt it'll be too difficult  ::) .

M

Daft as it sounds and as much as I don't like the stuff.... WD40 will make it a lot easier but wear surgical golves or your fingers will stink for months ;D
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: SJKOO01 on 09 August 2009, 13:42:39
"Daft as it sounds and as much as I don't like the stuff.... WD40 will make it a lot easier."

Ooo... never tried that stuff for getting glue off before, I've got some duck oil, so I'll try that as same thing.

(and... I'm just waiting for the jokes to appear about duck oil now  ::)  )

Thanks for the tip Lee

M   :y
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: trainastock on 09 August 2009, 14:15:09

try nail varnish remover for your hands  :y
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: SJKOO01 on 09 August 2009, 14:22:35
Think if I ask if I can borrow my other half's nail varnish remover, she's gon'a want to know why !!!!,

and saying because I need to get my fingers looking nice again after working on the car isn't going to do it !  ;D.

Wil remember the tip though - thanks.  :y
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: Welung666 on 09 August 2009, 14:24:16
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Think if I ask if I can borrow my other half's nail varnish remover, she's gon'a want to know why !!!!,

and saying because I need to get my fingers looking nice again after working on the car isn't going to do it !  ;D.

Wil remember the tip though - thanks.  :y

Tell her you need to re-do your toe nails ;D ;D
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: trainastock on 09 August 2009, 14:43:25

had a accident with superglue all fingers together swmbo sorted it with nail varish remover plus they do pads              saved a trip to hospital :y :y
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: Agemo on 09 August 2009, 22:42:38
Yes, Nail Varnish Remover is only Acetone, wonderful stuff. Saved many sniggers at A&E.  ;)
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: elitekev on 10 August 2009, 09:07:41
what about sealing the units again on assembly?
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: Welung666 on 10 August 2009, 11:26:10
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what about sealing the units again on assembly?

Black windscreen bond :y It's like mastic but never fully sets and sticks like sh!t!!!
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: Mr.T on 10 August 2009, 17:35:45
what is the diff between the uk headlights and the euro ones??
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: Macduff on 10 August 2009, 17:46:08
I was going to ask same question, anyone got any pics :)
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: SJKOO01 on 10 August 2009, 19:21:46
Have to be honest Mr T not sure if there is a difference or not with the units ??.  :-?.

However, I would guess that it's to do with the set up on how the projector lamp is set for R/H or L/H at the factory there made at, depending on what side of the road the cars destined for ?.
Especially as the one's I have had what looks like a lens convertor for continental driving.

Anyone else able to answer this one better ?.

And to the answer of putting them back together, Lee you've beaten me to the answer again  ;) .

Yeah, don't want to get the kind of sealant that once it's on you'll never get the damn thing off again !!.

M   :y
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: TheBoy on 10 August 2009, 19:28:44
difference between LHD and RHD is obviously the beam pattern it creates.

Note, the levers do NOT!! convert one type to the other
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: Mr.T on 10 August 2009, 19:53:25
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difference between LHD and RHD is obviously the beam pattern it creates.

Note, the levers do NOT!! convert one type to the other
I know that. Thats why i don't get this topic title as the starter lives in the UK?  :)
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: Welung666 on 10 August 2009, 19:55:33
I think it's meant as Euro style headlights, rather than the shiny silver reflectors they are gloss black.
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: SJKOO01 on 10 August 2009, 20:06:20
Leave me alone it's been a long day at work !  ;D  ;D

Speaking of which now I've read it again properly, I'm off to do a bit more rubbing down of my chromey bits !. Oh er misses !   ;) ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: Omegadoha, Desert Member on 11 August 2009, 19:19:05
I tried everything to clean the headlamp lenses.

Brasso
Rubbing compound
Nail polish remover
Alloy wheel cleaner

The sticky stuff remained sticky even after use of all these. In the end the lens still looked crap so then I used sand paper which means I lost the clarity through the lens. Still not happy therefore purchased a new set of cheapo Depos from Germany (as mines cock handed).
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: SJKOO01 on 12 August 2009, 18:29:01
Well last night managed to finish off both main parts of the reflectors.  Found out that the chrome finish on the inner lights is so thin that you can take it off using a bath towel without any trouble ?!  :-? .  Yet one side of the direction lights (indicators) seamed to be coated much thicker !.  May have to look into some chrome paint to touch up the bits that have rubbed off .
Otherwise its lots of glue & bake-o-foil !!  ;D .

It's been lot of work to get the ribbed bits all smoothed down (even with W&D240 grade), & then 800 grade, but think all this work will be worth it in the end (better bl**dy be !), but taking my time as the better the prep, the better the finish at the end of the day.

And yes will post some pic's once it's done, so you can see for yourself.

M  :y
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: SJKOO01 on 15 August 2009, 20:42:34
Damn things all gone wrong  >:(  >:( .

masked the chrome part, sprayed the rest of the main reflector with no problem, and went to take the masking tape off (and it's not strong addisive), and the bl**dy chrome has come off with it  >:( .

Got to try and find some form of quality 'chrome spray' if I can to replace where it's come off, if not then I've wasted over 6Hrs of prep in total to get them ready.

Got few options left now.

1. Throw teddies out of pram, bin everything and forget idea altogether.

2. Try to get chrome spray to replace where it's come off, then put lamp units back together.

3. Forget whole thing and try to find some custom lamps that I'm after on some German ebay, etc.  Pay over odds, and postage, then just learn by experience.

4. Try to locate some thin form of thin film, and try to glue it in place of where the inner reflectors are.

5. Think of any other options ????  :-/  :-/ .

Had it not been for the thin reflective coating on the inner lamps, everything would have been fine, and would of had them back together this weekend  >:( .

M
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: Omegadoha, Desert Member on 15 August 2009, 21:02:23
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Damn things all gone wrong  >:(  >:( .

masked the chrome part, sprayed the rest of the main reflector with no problem, and went to take the masking tape off (and it's not strong addisive), and the bl**dy chrome has come off with it  >:( .

Got to try and find some form of quality 'chrome spray' if I can to replace where it's come off, if not then I've wasted over 6Hrs of prep in total to get them ready.

Got few options left now.

1. Throw teddies out of pram, bin everything and forget idea altogether.

2. Try to get chrome spray to replace where it's come off, then put lamp units back together.

3. Forget whole thing and try to find some custom lamps that I'm after on some German ebay, etc.  Pay over odds, and postage, then just learn by experience.

4. Try to locate some thin form of thin film, and try to glue it in place of where the inner reflectors are.

5. Think of any other options ????  :-/  :-/ .

Had it not been for the thin reflective coating on the inner lamps, everything would have been fine, and would of had them back together this weekend  >:( .

M

Your profile suggests you are in the UK,however, you are appear to be seeking a lamps suitable for LHD vehicles. I've just bought a pair of DEPO's off the German ebay site, mine being LHD. Cost me around £150 incl delivery to the UK. I've also noted a few pointers between Hella and DEPO's but let me know if you're intrested and I'll give you the Ebay details. Mine were xenons btw.
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: SJKOO01 on 15 August 2009, 21:16:45
Actually I'm in the UK, and was converting RHD Xenon lights to the Euro (black look) as they don't seem to make them for the RHD Omega's, nor can I find anyone in the UK that sells them for the Facelift Migs, that's why I bought a 2nd hand pair to convert.  Though in all honesty I wasn't expecting to have as much problem as I've had doing the conversion  :-/ .

I know there are black look headlights on the German ebay site, but no point getting them if they'll only fit pre-facelift models, and wouldn't look good if you have to put a lens converter on there to get the light beam to be in the right place ?!  :-?.

Thanks for letting me know about the link though, as it is appreciated.

M
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: Welung666 on 16 August 2009, 10:51:43
Matt I've got some self adhesive mirror film if thats any good to you?
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: SJKOO01 on 16 August 2009, 11:59:40
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Matt I've got some self adhesive mirror film if thats any good to you?


Lee you may have helped save the day ?.

Does it have good adhesive on it, and can you cut it to shape do you think, as I know I'll have to make some paper templates, then cut to shape before sticking on.

Looks like teddies get to stay in the pram for now then  :)  ;D

M  :y
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: Welung666 on 16 August 2009, 13:03:42
This is the stuff....

(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n282/doris_minor/DSCF0660.jpg)
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n282/doris_minor/DSCF0661.jpg)

Really excellent stuff, redid the Fiesta Courier headlights' reflectors with it for the MOT and it passed with no problems :y
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: Omegadoha, Desert Member on 16 August 2009, 16:56:36
Doesn't the adhesive mirror film crumple up as you line the reflector curves?
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: Welung666 on 16 August 2009, 17:15:54
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Doesn't the adhesive mirror film crumple up as you line the reflector curves?

I did the Fiesta headlights in 3 pieces. Made paper templates first then stiff card ones, cut out the mirror sheet then carefully fitted it using a brand new yellow duster to push the air out as I went. This mirror sheet is quite soft, a bit like the clear sticky backed plastic of Blue Peter fame ;) :y
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: SJKOO01 on 16 August 2009, 17:31:12
Where did you get the stuff from Lee ?.

or any chance of selling me a sheet or two please  ::) ?.

M  :y
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: Mr.T on 16 August 2009, 17:39:58
i would get a other set from the scrappies or other.  :P
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: Welung666 on 16 August 2009, 17:42:34
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Where did you get the stuff from Lee ?.

or any chance of selling me a sheet or two please  ::) ?.

M  :y

It's on a roll Matt, work out how much you need and I'll get it up to you, we can do a deal on the MAF from your local breakers if you fancy :y
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: SJKOO01 on 16 August 2009, 17:49:05
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Where did you get the stuff from Lee ?.

or any chance of selling me a sheet or two please  ::) ?.

M  :y

It's on a roll Matt, work out how much you need and I'll get it up to you, we can do a deal on the MAF from your local breakers if you fancy :y

Sounds good to me, I'll see if I can get the maf off the car as soon as, unless someone else has had the same idea !!.

M
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: Omegadoha, Desert Member on 16 August 2009, 17:55:11
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Doesn't the adhesive mirror film crumple up as you line the reflector curves?

I did the Fiesta headlights in 3 pieces. Made paper templates first then stiff card ones, cut out the mirror sheet then carefully fitted it using a brand new yellow duster to push the air out as I went. This mirror sheet is quite soft, a bit like the clear sticky backed plastic of Blue Peter fame ;) :y

Well you certainly make it sound easy.  8-)
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: Welung666 on 16 August 2009, 17:58:57
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Doesn't the adhesive mirror film crumple up as you line the reflector curves?

I did the Fiesta headlights in 3 pieces. Made paper templates first then stiff card ones, cut out the mirror sheet then carefully fitted it using a brand new yellow duster to push the air out as I went. This mirror sheet is quite soft, a bit like the clear sticky backed plastic of Blue Peter fame ;) :y

Well you certainly make it sound easy.  8-)

Took me about an hour to cut the paper templates perfectly, then about another hour putting on the first side, 2nd one took just over an hour in total as I just turned the template over ;D
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: Welung666 on 16 August 2009, 18:00:17
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Where did you get the stuff from Lee ?.

or any chance of selling me a sheet or two please  ::) ?.

M  :y

It's on a roll Matt, work out how much you need and I'll get it up to you, we can do a deal on the MAF from your local breakers if you fancy :y

Sounds good to me, I'll see if I can get the maf off the car as soon as, unless someone else has had the same idea !!.

M

If you pop over sometime I'll give you a hand doing them if you want Matt?
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: SJKOO01 on 16 August 2009, 18:03:39
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Where did you get the stuff from Lee ?.

or any chance of selling me a sheet or two please  ::) ?.

M  :y

It's on a roll Matt, work out how much you need and I'll get it up to you, we can do a deal on the MAF from your local breakers if you fancy :y

Sounds good to me, I'll see if I can get the maf off the car as soon as, unless someone else has had the same idea !!.

M

If you pop over sometime I'll give you a hand doing them if you want Matt?


Thanks for the offer, may take you up on that ?.
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: Welung666 on 16 August 2009, 22:16:44
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Where did you get the stuff from Lee ?.

or any chance of selling me a sheet or two please  ::) ?.

M  :y

It's on a roll Matt, work out how much you need and I'll get it up to you, we can do a deal on the MAF from your local breakers if you fancy :y

Sounds good to me, I'll see if I can get the maf off the car as soon as, unless someone else has had the same idea !!.

M

If you pop over sometime I'll give you a hand doing them if you want Matt?


Thanks for the offer, may take you up on that ?.

Always happy to help matey :y, plus I'll have a set of templates ready for when I do mine ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: SJKOO01 on 17 August 2009, 16:21:08
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Where did you get the stuff from Lee ?.

or any chance of selling me a sheet or two please  ::) ?.

M  :y

It's on a roll Matt, work out how much you need and I'll get it up to you, we can do a deal on the MAF from your local breakers if you fancy :y

Sounds good to me, I'll see if I can get the maf off the car as soon as, unless someone else has had the same idea !!.

M

If you pop over sometime I'll give you a hand doing them if you want Matt?


Thanks for the offer, may take you up on that ?.

Always happy to help matey :y, plus I'll have a set of templates ready for when I do mine ;D ;D ;D


Ahh.... so that's the reason, and here's me thinking you were doing it out of the good of heart !  ;D  ;D .

Let you know when I've got the maf, though may be the weekend now chap.
Title: Re: Omega Euro headlights
Post by: Welung666 on 17 August 2009, 18:06:51
No probs :y