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Title: Decanting argon shield gas
Post by: Gary W on 27 August 2009, 12:03:56
l have a karge argon shield gas bottle. lts to large to keep moving and l am thinking of decanting the gas into a smaller bottle. Anyone got any advice on how to do this or where l can get a rig to connect the bottles.

Gary
Title: Re: Decanting argon shield gas
Post by: unlucky mark mv6 on 27 August 2009, 15:56:46
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l have a karge argon shield gas bottle. lts to large to keep moving and l am thinking of decanting the gas into a smaller bottle. Anyone got any advice on how to do this or where l can get a rig to connect the bottles.

Gary
I would try a fire extinguisher place mate.
Title: Re: Decanting argon shield gas
Post by: waspy on 27 August 2009, 21:13:00
First of all, be VERY CAREFUL when messing with compressed gas. Did you know that they fill them under water, because when filled in the atmosphere you'll only get a token fill which won't last very long.
Have you seen the destruction one of these compressed gas bottles are capable of. They act like a missile, i personally wouldn't :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

I would advise you not to do it ;) For the sake of a few pounds saved, it's not worth your life or someone elses.
Title: Re: Decanting argon shield gas
Post by: KillerWatt on 27 August 2009, 21:30:37
I can only echo what Pete says, just don't do it mate.

I've seen a gas bottle go, and believe me, it's f**king scary.
Title: Re: Decanting argon shield gas
Post by: Gary W on 28 August 2009, 10:41:59
l do decant 300 bar compressed air at the moment for airgun shooting. From a 7ltr dive bottle to a .5ltr rifle tank. The kit uses a low volume slow bleed system which would just take to long to fill the 10 ltr argon bottle.
The argon is less than 300 bar but is on a much larger scale. l would only decant it into the smaller argon bottle which usually goes back to the main supplier for exchange when empty so will always be in test
Title: Re: Decanting argon shield gas
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 28 August 2009, 10:45:15
Well as long as you have not gone bang yet Gary! :D :D :D :D ;) ;)
Title: Re: Decanting argon shield gas
Post by: KillerWatt on 28 August 2009, 14:16:11
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l do decant 300 bar compressed air at the moment for airgun shooting. From a 7ltr dive bottle to a .5ltr rifle tank.
Compressed air is relatively easy to transfer because there are no real procedures as such to observe, but I suspect there are one or two procedures you'd have to carry out prior to the transfer where gases such as argon are concerned.

I regularly transfer NČO from my main (11lb) bottle to a 1lb bottle when I feel like having a mad half hour on the bike, but even then I have to observe certain pre-fill procedures (like ensuring the main bottle is warm, the recipient bottle is cold, and keeping an eye on the weight while filling).

A friend of mine (same guy who came over from France who helped me with the MIG) is a qualified diver & welder, I can quite easily give him a call tonight and get the full SP on the safe way to carry out the procedure if you like?
Title: Re: Decanting argon shield gas
Post by: waspy on 28 August 2009, 14:58:53
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First of all, be VERY CAREFUL when messing with compressed gas. Did you know that they fill them under water, because when filled in the atmosphere you'll only get a token fill which won't last very long.
Have you seen the destruction one of these compressed gas bottles are capable of. They act like a missile, i personally wouldn't :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

I would advise you not to do it ;) For the sake of a few pounds saved, it's not worth your life or someone elses.

I would just like to point out that you got my me wondering & so i asked my mate who used to work for BOC. This is what he told me ;)