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Title: Why do some garages.......
Post by: Dave Elite on 20 October 2009, 13:03:12
Tighten your wheel nuts so tight. I havent had to take the wheels off since having new tyres fitted until this morning. I had to use all my might and a very long extender bar with my bloodvessals almost busting, to get the bolts out. I turned it 180 deg and it was still tight. Why do they do that?
Title: Re: Why do some garages.......
Post by: Ghost on 20 October 2009, 13:32:54
Because there Idiots, they call themselves profis all they are is monkeys,
I've also had the same problem.
Title: Re: Why do some garages.......
Post by: Dave Elite on 20 October 2009, 13:46:02
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Because there Idiots, they call themselves profis all they are is monkeys,
I've also had the same problem.
What do they use to tighten them up with?
Title: Re: Why do some garages.......
Post by: platty on 20 October 2009, 13:47:20
I thought they are supposed to nip them with the airgun and then go around and torque them up afterwards with a wrench. I should imagine most just rag them up with the airgun and leave it at that.  :-/
Title: Re: Why do some garages.......
Post by: Ghost on 20 October 2009, 13:47:44
Some use there foot others use the windy gun.
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Post by: Ghost on 20 October 2009, 13:48:36
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I thought they are supposed to nip them with the airgun and then go around and torque them up afterwards with a wrench. I should imagine most just rag them up with the airgun and leave it at that.  :-/

for a truck yes, a car no windy gun.
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Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 20 October 2009, 13:52:08
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I thought they are supposed to nip them with the airgun and then go around and torque them up afterwards with a wrench. I should imagine most just rag them up with the airgun and leave it at that.  :-/

Thats how they are supposed to be done but, they rag them up with the impact wrench and then put the torque wrench on which, not surprisingly, goes click without turning the bolt/nut
Title: Re: Why do some garages.......
Post by: Dave Elite on 20 October 2009, 14:13:25
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I thought they are supposed to nip them with the airgun and then go around and torque them up afterwards with a wrench. I should imagine most just rag them up with the airgun and leave it at that.  :-/

Thats how they are supposed to be done but, they rag them up with the impact wrench and then put the torque wrench on which, not surprisingly, goes click without turning the bolt/nut
Any tighter and I would of had to take it back for them to undo.
Title: Re: Why do some garages.......
Post by: Ghost on 20 October 2009, 16:05:14
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I thought they are supposed to nip them with the airgun and then go around and torque them up afterwards with a wrench. I should imagine most just rag them up with the airgun and leave it at that.  :-/

Thats how they are supposed to be done but, they rag them up with the impact wrench and then put the torque wrench on which, not surprisingly, goes click without turning the bolt/nut
Any tighter and I would of had to take it back for them to undo.

I had to, I bent one wheel brace and snaped another,  [smiley=angry.gif] [smiley=angry.gif]
I didntalf give the prat that did it a mouthfull. Had to restrain myself from using him as a wheel brace
Title: Re: Why do some garages.......
Post by: Dave Elite on 20 October 2009, 17:02:54
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I thought they are supposed to nip them with the airgun and then go around and torque them up afterwards with a wrench. I should imagine most just rag them up with the airgun and leave it at that.  :-/

Thats how they are supposed to be done but, they rag them up with the impact wrench and then put the torque wrench on which, not surprisingly, goes click without turning the bolt/nut
Any tighter and I would of had to take it back for them to undo.

I had to, I bent one wheel brace and snaped another,  [smiley=angry.gif] [smiley=angry.gif]
I didntalf give the prat that did it a mouthfull. Had to restrain myself from using him as a wheel brace
Next time I go, i'll try and undo them before I leave the garage.
Title: Re: Why do some garages.......
Post by: Andy B on 20 October 2009, 17:05:18
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..... Why do they do that?

Because they can  >:( .... and they know no better  ::).   :y
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Post by: Jimbob on 20 October 2009, 17:23:20
tis even worse when they knacker a locking nut too.


and you dont discover till its uninsured on your drive and you cant take it anywhere so end up drilling the bugger   >:(
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Post by: Dave Elite on 20 October 2009, 17:27:39
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tis even worse when they knacker a locking nut too.


and you dont discover till its uninsured on your drive and you cant take it anywhere so end up drilling the bugger   >:(
Your not far from me, do you know maple tyres on the rossmore ind est in ellesmere port? thats who over did my wheel bolts >:(
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Post by: Jimbob on 20 October 2009, 17:29:10
not used em...

Was buckley tyres did mine.

about to buy some new ones again...may just take my own tools and say I'll do it, save fixing later  ;D
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Post by: Andy B on 20 October 2009, 17:31:48
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on the rossmore ind est in ellesmere port? thats who over did my wheel bolts >:(

That's where Lookers is isn't it? The 'home' of Dr O!  ;)  ;)  ;)
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Post by: Dave Elite on 20 October 2009, 17:37:09
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on the rossmore ind est in ellesmere port? thats who over did my wheel bolts >:(

That's where Lookers is isn't it? The 'home' of Dr O!  ;)  ;)  ;)
Yes, maple tyres is round the corner. Who is Dr O
Title: Re: Why do some garages.......
Post by: Jimbob on 20 October 2009, 17:42:28
Dr O....  Dr Omega

Another private tech2 owner and (former?) omega enthusiast.

pops on here (very) occasionally
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Post by: Dave Elite on 20 October 2009, 17:47:18
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Dr O....  Dr Omega

Another private tech2 owner and (former?) omega enthusiast.

pops on here (very) occasionally
Ah :y
Title: Re: Why do some garages.......
Post by: Andy B on 20 October 2009, 17:48:25
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..... Who is Dr O

In the dim & distant past ..... long long before OOF was set up, there is/was a Yahoo Omega's group of which Dr Omega is a major player (.... although signed on here he rarely puts his 2 pen'orth in  :-/) Dr O is the service manager at Lookers & knows his Vauxhalls back to front, inside out etc  :y  :y etc


what Jim says!  ;)
Title: Re: Why do some garages.......
Post by: Dave Elite on 20 October 2009, 17:52:35
My wife bought a vectra from there a couple of years ago, do you know his real name?
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Post by: Andy B on 20 October 2009, 17:54:32
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My wife bought a vectra from there a couple of years ago, do you know his real name?

I'm not sure he'll want the world to know so I'll pm you  :y  :y  :y

Title: Re: Why do some garages.......
Post by: Dave Elite on 20 October 2009, 18:00:46
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My wife bought a vectra from there a couple of years ago, do you know his real name?

I'm not sure he'll want the world to know so I'll pm you  :y  :y  :y

Thanks for that Andy :y
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Post by: Andy B on 20 October 2009, 18:22:28
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My wife bought a vectra from there a couple of years ago, do you know his real name?

I'm not sure he'll want the world to know so I'll pm you  :y  :y  :y

Thanks for that Andy :y

 :y  :y  :y
Title: Re: Why do some garages.......
Post by: omegod on 20 October 2009, 18:59:34
Nuts on the wifes fiesta were put on so tight the threads stripped out when I took them off, went round with a major cob on and made them supply replacements >:(
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Post by: Andy B on 20 October 2009, 19:09:18
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Nuts on the wifes fiesta were put on so tight the threads stripped out when I took them off, went round with a major cob on and made them supply replacements >:(

That wouldn't have been good in the outside lane of the motorway  >:(  >:(  >:(
Title: Re: Why do some garages.......
Post by: zirax on 22 October 2009, 19:26:03
Just got the same thing with mine. First thing I did was to use my wheel wrench on the nuts, the socket cracked straight down the side  >:(

I have just got a spiffing new reversable 60-300Nm torgue wrench so I thought I would just see how hard these nuts are.
100 *click*
200 *click*
300 HHHHNNNNGGGG *click*

Can't shift them so I shall drop this in my local garage and see what they can do. The downside for them is that I am going to check the wheel nuts when they give it back. Torgue it up properly did you? *click* ...... get it back on the ramp!  :y
Title: Re: Why do some garages.......
Post by: ENFIELD_MV6 on 22 October 2009, 19:38:13
they should use a proper torque socket on the airgun which is set to about half the rating of what most manufactures recomend, then as said should be done with a torque wrench to the correct setting
Title: Re: Why do some garages.......
Post by: v8mick on 01 November 2009, 22:25:22
Mate of mine had a run in with a tyre and exhaust center place, and they glued his dust caps on the new tyres!! >:(