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Title: BOYS & TOYS LR FREELANDER
Post by: over50now on 21 December 2009, 08:17:18
Good morning everyone.  Miggy going great, thus no input recently on this site.

However, you will all probably groan now. As treat got Freelander 1.8 on V plate as a toy. Intro to slight off roading.

Hope it's not the deaded Head Gasket, but now won't start.   No mayo/water on dipstick or under oil filler cap.   No oil in expansion tank,

but here's the worrying bit, smell of petrol coming from expansion tank when cap off. Would the inlet manifold gasket have failed allowing coolant and petrol to mix.

In anticipation Thanks to all the knowledge out there.
Bit more Over50now
Title: Re: BOYS & TOYS LR FREELANDER
Post by: Lazydocker on 21 December 2009, 08:29:24
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but.... Probably HG!

Get a compression test done
Title: Re: BOYS & TOYS LR FREELANDER
Post by: Steve Brookman on 21 December 2009, 08:52:52
Try these forums

http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/

http://forum.landrovernet.com
Title: Re: BOYS & TOYS LR FREELANDER
Post by: over50now on 21 December 2009, 10:05:06
Thanks Guys.

That'll teach me :-X
Title: Re: BOYS & TOYS LR FREELANDER
Post by: Rustymv6 on 21 December 2009, 10:42:39
Hi mate I am part of Merseyside Land Rover owners club just post on our website and someone will be able to tell you the exact problem. www.mlroc.co.uk. Also do lots of laning through out the year in the lake district and wales so would be good to see you come along. ;D
Title: Re: BOYS & TOYS LR FREELANDER
Post by: over50now on 21 December 2009, 11:29:47
Thanks Rustymv6

Will give them a try. Hope they won't be insulted by a Freelander driver. Looks as if most of them are proper 4 x 4 drivers   i.e Defenders etc ;D
Title: Re: BOYS & TOYS LR FREELANDER
Post by: tunnie on 21 December 2009, 11:35:05
How old is it? The early shape ones eat HG's for breakfast, unless your bang on with coolant changes, even then your lucky if they last 50k
Title: Re: BOYS & TOYS LR FREELANDER
Post by: Lazydocker on 21 December 2009, 13:51:12
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How old is it? The early shape ones eat HG's for breakfast, unless your bang on with coolant changes, even then your lucky if they last 50k

Unfortunately it a k-series engine again :o :o ::) ::) :-X :-X
Title: Re: BOYS & TOYS LR FREELANDER
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 21 December 2009, 16:15:18
A K series engine in a non-capable off roader.....AAArrrrggghhhhhh
Title: Re: BOYS & TOYS LR FREELANDER
Post by: tunnie on 21 December 2009, 16:19:06
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How old is it? The early shape ones eat HG's for breakfast, unless your bang on with coolant changes, even then your lucky if they last 50k

Unfortunately it a k-series engine again :o :o ::) ::) :-X :-X

I've known one fail @ 20k miles  :o
Title: Re: BOYS & TOYS LR FREELANDER
Post by: Lazydocker on 21 December 2009, 16:22:14
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How old is it? The early shape ones eat HG's for breakfast, unless your bang on with coolant changes, even then your lucky if they last 50k

Unfortunately it a k-series engine again :o :o ::) ::) :-X :-X

I've known one fail @ 20k miles  :o

It did well then :-X :-X ;) ;)
Title: Re: BOYS & TOYS LR FREELANDER
Post by: TheBoy on 21 December 2009, 18:14:52
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A K series engine in a non-capable off roader.....AAArrrrggghhhhhh
Oh, its a very capable offroader for its class. Been there, done that ;)
Title: Re: BOYS & TOYS LR FREELANDER
Post by: TheBoy on 21 December 2009, 18:16:24
If it is HG, make sure that you replace with new MLS gasket, replace oil rail, and do the mod to the stat.  These together, according to the company who refurb engines for LR, virtually entirely resolves the issue.
Title: Re: BOYS & TOYS LR FREELANDER
Post by: over50now on 21 December 2009, 22:20:43
Missed this site - banters good ::)

Had son do compression test. Result as look at engine left to right  9lb psi  5lb psi   8lb psi   8lb psi.

9lb psi cyl  HT lead knackered.
He also tapped the fuel cut off switch.
Put all back together and out of interest turned her over and presto, burst into life but missing on knackered HT lead.  Let it tick over, exhaust seemed fine.  However noted temperature guage on instrument panel hadn't moved. Checked - heater hoses into bulk head- one cold, one hot.  Me thinking air locks????
weather permitting, new HT leads, plugs and coolant refill tomorrow.  Might use melted snow and anti-freeze.   Snow is pure and hasn't been passed, treated like tap water ;D   Will post result.   Thanks for everyones help.  Graham
Title: Re: BOYS & TOYS LR FREELANDER
Post by: over50now on 21 December 2009, 22:22:45
Sorry Tunnie,

it's a 1999 on a V plate   103K recorded miles
Title: Re: BOYS & TOYS LR FREELANDER
Post by: sneakypenguin on 22 December 2009, 18:13:02
yep, k-series engines were renowned for going through HG's like they were going out of fashion, as TB said, that mod will virtually eliminate that problem. If it's done 103k on the original HG then thats not bad goin at all
Title: Re: BOYS & TOYS LR FREELANDER
Post by: Olympia5776 on 22 December 2009, 22:03:10
I've got one.
The inlet manifold is water heated and can fail .Symptoms are usually the engine missfires when started up. I changed the HG about a year ago as a precautionary measure and fitted all the neccesary updates. So far all is well ,although the petrol pump failed recently and that cost over €450 for the pump alone.......
The K series is generally a weak engine and all it's problems are well documented .Interestingly enough I see that the new MG announced a month ago will be powered by a K series again. The Chinese bought the rights to the engine too.
Generally the only way to ascertain if the HG has gone is to have a sniffer test done on the expansion tank contents.
They are lovely cars to drive but EVERY time I'm in it I'm listening for every strange sound and talking myself into hugely expensive repairs when I do hear something.
A bit of a love /hate type of car really.
I wish you good luck with it    ,   really .
Don ;)
Title: Re: BOYS & TOYS LR FREELANDER
Post by: over50now on 28 December 2009, 16:10:55
BIG THANKS TO EVERYONE
sorry about the capitals, but it's the only way I can say big thanks.
Despite this site not being LR, the help and suggestions were excellent. Dare I say it, did look on other forums, bit clicky.
Now at the dealers - being done. Thanks again. :y