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Title: Your Opinions COUNT
Post by: alunonhisown on 29 December 2009, 19:18:35
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1991-Ford-Granada-Scorpio-24v-Cosworth_W0QQitemZ180444016278QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item2a034d2e96

What are your opinions on this?
Is it really a CLASSIC?
Is it really worth £1650?
My best friend has one on an ' M ' Plate, but nowhere near the condition this one is apparently in.

Title: Re: Your Opinions COUNT
Post by: Omegadoha, Desert Member on 29 December 2009, 19:28:05
Well it's a Cossy.  :y But seriously is this a classic already? If so you might only wish to use on special occassions?
Title: Re: Your Opinions COUNT
Post by: Omegadoha, Desert Member on 29 December 2009, 19:30:04
Sorry - I would be interested to find out more about this Ford photoshoot he is talking about.
Title: Re: Your Opinions COUNT
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 29 December 2009, 19:32:42
My 1999 Omega Elite 24V with Sat Nav and leather was bought off ebay from a local guy in a private sale for less than £1300, I will have owned it 2 years in April and it has 84K on it.  Which is 11K more than the Scorpio but 8 years younger.

I am a Vauxhall fan over Ford all day long.  Other's prefer Ford over Vx, so personal choice.

If I were a ford fan and really wanted that car I would 1st go and check it out and have a spin in it with no more a £1000 in my pocket, if it ricked all the right boxes then make the bid, but at £900, at least you can go £100 more.  If no deal then leave him your mobile number and walk away.

It will either sell for what he wants or he will phone you.

Also remember it is still a buyers market, Christmas and the New Year has to be paid for so car sales are slow, use it to your advantage.

All the best what ever you choose to go for.
Title: Re: Your Opinions COUNT
Post by: MickAP on 29 December 2009, 19:36:19
Don't know much about them, but it looks the part all but for a dodgy looking fit on the rear bumper :D

Mick ;)
Title: Re: Your Opinions COUNT
Post by: Omegadoha, Desert Member on 29 December 2009, 19:49:59
To be honest I don't think it is quite a classic as yet. The bottom fell out the market for these cars around mid to late 2007 if I remember correctly.

If you were selling it I don't think you would get more than £700 for it. £1,650 is a bit over the top. Might be worth getting a feel of what the seller is realisticly expecting. 
Title: Re: Your Opinions COUNT
Post by: sexydaz on 29 December 2009, 19:52:30
well i like the car i do like fords i was brought up round granadas my dad had a lovely 3ltr mk 1 and he has a black one of them g reg tho its not the cossy just scorpio,as skruntie was suggesting tbh it is dated and its not a classic a classic ford is what guys got and for an ole motor like that nice as it is i think yer lookin at 7 to 9 hundred pound and would be better gettin something newer for less than his askin price,thats just my opinion :)
Title: Re: Your Opinions COUNT
Post by: tunnie on 29 December 2009, 19:52:52
you could get classic insurance for it, Senators are now classed as Classics as well.

I would not pay that money for it, but for those that like Scorpio's will, its like us paying over the odds for a low millage 3.2 Elite  :)
Title: Re: Your Opinions COUNT
Post by: dbug on 29 December 2009, 19:54:57
Sh*t off a shovel job - bit pricey for H reg though!!
Title: Re: Your Opinions COUNT
Post by: cruisetopoland on 29 December 2009, 19:56:01
Looks great and is now rare spec, decent colour, if all ok and you wanted one-would you find another like it?

In perspective, its not a lot of money if the paint repair did not just gloss over the usual arch rot.

Worth it for a piece of recent automotive history I think-if that is what you want.  Should hold its value over the next few years even if it does not appreciate much in the next ten.
Title: Re: Your Opinions COUNT
Post by: Entwood on 29 December 2009, 20:15:40
Lovely motors, not reallly a "classic" yet but a lot of owners like/wish to think they are.

Tad expensive to run, worse MPG than my 3.2 Omega. Don't hit a "sleeping policeman" or other large pothole hard .. not only will you damage the suspension but the engine might stop !! If you don't know about the little reset switch by the boot catch you could be there for hours !!! It's a simple "g" switch that isolates the fuel pump.

Cossies tend to have been driven hard (why have one if you don't) so worth a very good check of service history. If the engine goes wrong it WILL be expensive to fix !!!

I never thought I would have a better tow car than the scorpio ... until I towed with the Omega ... IMHO    :)
Title: Re: Your Opinions COUNT
Post by: Martin_1962 on 29 December 2009, 20:16:50
Rather have same era Senator or GSi3000
Title: Re: Your Opinions COUNT
Post by: Proz on 29 December 2009, 20:50:14
I work beside a guy who is in the Ford RS Club .... he has kept various Ford Cossies over the years and always keeps them in fabulous condition with no expence spared ... he looked at the Egay listing and reckons no more than £1000 .... :y
Title: Re: Your Opinions COUNT
Post by: Kevin Wood on 30 December 2009, 01:25:14
That reminds me - I've got the rear subframe of one of these dumped in my back garden somewhere. Must chop it into less-suspicious sized bits and take it to the tip. ::)

Kevin
Title: Re: Your Opinions COUNT
Post by: stuthespread on 30 December 2009, 15:37:01
in my opinion(and it is only my opinion)its the same as anything....its only worth what someones willing to pay for it,he'll probably get what he's asking for eventually.  :)
Title: Re: Your Opinions COUNT
Post by: Omegadoha, Desert Member on 30 December 2009, 16:53:22
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That reminds me - I've got the rear subframe of one of these dumped in my back garden somewhere. Must chop it into less-suspicious sized bits and take it to the tip. ::)

Kevin

You've just reminded me I've got a strut off an Scorpio still sat in my shed. I was trying to get the ABS sensor out a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: Your Opinions COUNT
Post by: cam2502 on 30 December 2009, 18:19:20
iv had 3 granadas, and one of the frogs eyes scorpio 2.9 24v cosworths.....incredibly fast!!fastest car iv ever owned in fact...and very comfy with it. i love them.  :y
Title: Re: Your Opinions COUNT
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 30 December 2009, 18:53:06
The only thing I liked about the 2.9 scorpio that I used to valet for a guy was seeing it leave, I thought the were bloody ugly things.

Not too bad to drive, loved to sumptuous soft leather interior. But fugly.

Used to clean that and a brand new 24v senator every saturday morming, and yes you guesed it.  I fell in love with the senator.  ;) :y
Title: Re: Your Opinions COUNT
Post by: Omegadoha, Desert Member on 30 December 2009, 20:33:58
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iv had 3 granadas, and one of the frogs eyes scorpio 2.9 24v cosworths.....incredibly fast!!fastest car iv ever owned in fact...and very comfy with it. i love them.  :y

Great cars indeed.  :y

Intrestingly the Granada was offered in the States, however the Americans found it ugly and we don't, whereas we find the Scorpio ugly but the Americans don't.  ::)
Title: Re: Your Opinions COUNT
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 01 January 2010, 16:44:11
Senny!! I think to a point Ford had it all to themselves in the 70s, what with the Professionals / Sweeney all adding to the image. But come late 80s/90s, I really think the Luton (or Russelsheim) product was just better.
Title: Re: Your Opinions COUNT
Post by: belldarr on 02 January 2010, 11:04:35
If your looking for something to put in the garage and just wheel it out to polish and drive occasionaly then buy it - on the other hand if your looking for a day to day car then put the money towards something newer and parts are easier to get - a late 3.2 Elite for instance ;)

Darren
Title: Re: Your Opinions COUNT
Post by: alunonhisown on 02 January 2010, 11:11:36
I agree, but try finding a 3.2 Elite, Rocking Horse Sh** and Hen's Teeth spring to mind.
Title: Re: Your Opinions COUNT
Post by: pscocoa on 03 January 2010, 09:18:58
I had 4 scorpios - 1985, 1989, 1993, 1995 alongside a VX Carlton Estate 1990 - 1992 and others. When you come across something which reminds you of some very good times and you owned a version thereof then it is pretty tempting if you have the time and money and storage to pick up something like this.

If someone in the know values it at £1000 then you start from there and only increase to reflect your desire to own it knowing that this element of the price will probably not be recovered on a future resale. If you keep it a few years then premium paid becomes insignificant.
Title: Re: Your Opinions COUNT
Post by: goonv6 on 03 January 2010, 09:37:10
It'll never be worth great money. A lot of these were broken for the engine which some people shoehorn into Capris. However,when did you last see one on the road? Monetary value is one thing, collectable 'oh, I had one of those' is another. I have a 1983 Chevy Camaro in the garage. It has a custom paint job, custom interior and its one of only a handful of crossfires left in the world with the cowl induction hood and early bumpers. Worth a lot? No, Collectable? rare? definitely!
Title: Re: Your Opinions COUNT
Post by: Martin_1962 on 03 January 2010, 10:31:23
Back in the EF reg are I delivered a Carlton to replace a C reg Granada both were similar spec.

Carlton was a hell of a lot nicer drive, definately a better handler (twisty A road to the customer)