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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Shackeng on 07 January 2010, 18:50:31
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There seem to be a few members who also have Range Rovers. I'm toying with the thought of being able to go out in this sort of weather. Any advice on buying one second hand, apart from FSH etc, any particular model to go for? All opinions welcomed, thinking up to £5000:-/ :y
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once this weather has gone, i doubt we will be seeing it for a while again. Not really worth buying it just for latest weather...
If i was to get a rangie would have to be latest shape style, don't like mid-90's ones.
With your budget i'd look at something like a Jag X-Type V6, be perfect for these roads at the moment
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My Missus got a 55 plate jeep cherokee for similar money this year and its performed brilliantly in this weather unlike my miggy.
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I've got a 2005 '55' Range Rover, the current L322 model. It's been absolutely great, haven't got stuck at all. And towed more people than I can recall in the last few days. The Omega's a great car, but I didn't even think of using them in the snow.
Mine's up at £20,400 now
With £5k you'll be looking at the P38 model, 1995-2002. There's a 2.5 TD engine, 4.0 and 4.6 V8.
On the P38's as with all RR's you need to check the operation of the air suspension. As the P38's are older, owners are fitting normal springs and getting rid of the air suspension. They're pretty good all round, but like Omega's have their quirks and common faults.
I don't know much about P38's, best bet is to look on one of the Land Rover forums.
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good choice to put that rangie in your current stock Josh :y
What do you charge for a days rental ::) ;D
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once this weather has gone, i doubt we will be seeing it for a while again. Not really worth buying it just for latest weather...
If i was to get a rangie would have to be latest shape style, don't like mid-90's ones.
With your budget i'd look at something like a Jag X-Type V6, be perfect for these roads at the moment
My neighbour used to have one. Had "issues"in the snow and hit a curb. Totalled the track rods, steering rack, etc. :-[ I think you'd do better in a rangie, TBH.
Kevin
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once this weather has gone, i doubt we will be seeing it for a while again. Not really worth buying it just for latest weather...
If i was to get a rangie would have to be latest shape style, don't like mid-90's ones.
With your budget i'd look at something like a Jag X-Type V6, be perfect for these roads at the moment
My neighbour used to have one. Had "issues"in the snow and hit a curb. Totalled the track rods, steering rack, etc. :-[ I think you'd do better in a rangie, TBH.
Kevin
Was the problem between the steering wheel & seat? - It seemed quite planted in snow during Clarksons road test :-/
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good choice to put that rangie in your current stock Josh :y
What do you charge for a days rental ::) ;D
Rental? ;D ;D Good idea :y
It has worked out well having it in now, I've had a fair few calls about it today. And I've taken the opportunity to put a price visor sign in the windscreen. That's attracted a few people too.
I'd go for a Volvo XC70 in your price range which is very capable. Effectively just a V70 with 4wd. I've seen a few around and they've all been doing well in the snow. Would never buy an Audi allroad, too expensive for what it is. I'd say for £5k, an XC70 is a better bet :y
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good choice to put that rangie in your current stock Josh :y
What do you charge for a days rental ::) ;D
Rental? ;D ;D Good idea :y
It has worked out well having it in now, I've had a fair few calls about it today. And I've taken the opportunity to put a price visor sign in the windscreen. That's attracted a few people too.
I'd go for a Volvo XC70 in your price range which is very capable. Effectively just a V70 with 4wd. I've seen a few around and they've all been doing well in the snow. Would never buy an Audi allroad, too expensive for what it is. I'd say for £5k, an XC70 is a better bet :y
I rekon if you put a few signs about saying Josh's Towing Co, you could make quite a few quid :)
20k is too much, something like this would be nice:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201001349632881/sort/priceasc/usedcars/make/land_rover/model/range_rover/fuel-type/diesel/price-from/10000/page/2/radius/1501/postcode/nn136er?previous=%2Fsearch%2Fresults%2Fusedcars%2Fpostcode%2Fnn136er%2Fradius%2F1501%2Fmake%2Fland_rover%2Fmodel%2Frange_rover%2Ffuel-type%2Fdiesel%2Fprice-from%2F10000%2Fpage%2F2%2Fsort%2Fpriceasc&logcode=p
But for that kind of money think i would go Audi A8 3.0 TDi Quattro
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I've got a 2005 '55' Range Rover, the current L322 model. It's been absolutely great, haven't got stuck at all. And towed more people than I can recall in the last few days. The Omega's a great car, but I didn't even think of using them in the snow.
Mine's up at £20,400 now
With £5k you'll be looking at the P38 model, 1995-2002. There's a 2.5 TD engine, 4.0 and 4.6 V8.
On the P38's as with all RR's you need to check the operation of the air suspension. As the P38's are older, owners are fitting normal springs and getting rid of the air suspension. They're pretty good all round, but like Omega's have their quirks and common faults.
I don't know much about P38's, best bet is to look on one of the Land Rover forums.
The same BMW engine that Omega TD owners hate love...
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for that money you would be better with a td5 disco es. Full leather just as capable as a rangy and more reliability.
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Thanks a lot guys, particulaly Josh, some very useful info there. I was thinking of something with a bit of grunt as well as snow capability, so the Disco or Cherokee sound interesting.
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Thanks a lot guys, particulaly Josh, some very useful info there. I was thinking of something with a bit of grunt as well as snow capability, so the Disco or (http://Cherokee) sound interesting.
:y :y :y
Be careful of them, they are cheap for a reason, they rot very easily :o
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for that money you would be better with a td5 disco es. Full leather just as capable as a rangy and more reliability.
Probably better with the TDi rather than the TD5. The TD5 saw the introduction of assorted ecu's and other software whilst the TDi was still the bog standard basic, whitworth spanner, design with external injectors rather than common rail etc. And they are significantly cheaper but watch out for rusty boot floors and sill rot....
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This (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290381568960&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) kinda tempts me but perhaps the carpet colour is an aquired taste....
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This (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290381568960&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) kinda tempts me but perhaps the carpet colour is an aquired taste....
Not a fan of that shape, interiors really let it down i feel. Next generation is much nicer inside
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This (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290381568960&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) kinda tempts me but perhaps the carpet colour is an aquired taste....
Not a fan of that shape, interiors really let it down i feel. Next generation is much nicer inside
Depends on how many green shield stamp books you want to cash in, I suppose.... ;)
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This (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290381568960&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) kinda tempts me but perhaps the carpet colour is an aquired taste....
Not a fan of that shape, interiors really let it down i feel. Next generation is much nicer inside
Depends on how many green shield stamp books you want to cash in, I suppose.... ;)
Yup, niceness costs dosh
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Thanks a lot guys, particulaly Josh, some very useful info there. I was thinking of something with a bit of grunt as well as snow capability, so the Disco or (http://Cherokee) sound interesting.
:y :y :y
Be careful of them, they are cheap for a reason, they rot very easily :o
Sorry Tunnie, which ones rot?
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This (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290381568960&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) kinda tempts me but perhaps the carpet colour is an aquired taste....
That looks very nice for the money, but a bit too rich for my wallet. :'( :'( :'(
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Thanks a lot guys, particulaly Josh, some very useful info there. I was thinking of something with a bit of grunt as well as snow capability, so the Disco or (http://Cherokee) sound interesting.
:y :y :y
Be careful of them, they are cheap for a reason, they rot very easily :o
[highl
Sorry Tunnie, which ones rot?
Cherokee's, known 4 year old ones need chassis welding :o
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I've just gone and picked up a range rover p38 4.6 lpg
are they any good?
Can't wait to drive it :)
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I've just gone and picked up a range rover p38 4.6 lpg
are they any good?
Can't wait to drive it :)
The engines suffer from dropped liners/cracked heads but if well maintained are :y :y
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All you need is a proper Land Rover (Series any)... :y
Just don't expect any luxury..... :D :D
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Didnt james have a Range Rover ealier last last?
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there is only one 4x4 for this weather and it is a toyota landcruiser !!i sold mine a few months back and it was superb 4.5 all wheel drive .front and rear wheel drive .full leather air con .brilliant motor. :y :y
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I've had my 4.6HSE for well over 3 years, I'd thoroughly recommend one!
The only car I would change it for would be a newer shape petrol model.
Steve
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All you need is a proper Land Rover (Series any)... :y
Just don't expect any luxury..... :D :D
Yes I have also considered one of those :y, I know from service experience how rugged they are. :y :y :y
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We have had two Classic shaped Range Rovers and Mrs. Loo-knee regrets the day we sold the last one ::) I have not heard the last of it either ;D
There always seems to be something needing to be done on them, changing all the oils is quiet expensive too.
Parts are suprisingly quiet cheap, example an alternator for a Rangey was £50 new :y
We went looking for snow in them which was brilliant fun and also an offroading day in the first one :y :y :y
Pretty sure it is the 4.6 that had problems dropping liners.
Head Gaskets are pretty easy to do to as there is so much room in there, just climb in ;D
A neighbour used to work in the desert somewhere and he claims that Land Rangers etc etc are no match for either Land Rover or Range Rover.
I actually prefer the Classic shape, but Tunnie if you can afford a new Range Rover you must be a Rentboy ;D ;D ;D
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We have had two Classic shaped Range Rovers and Mrs. Loo-knee regrets the day we sold the last one ::) I have not heard the last of it either ;D
There always seems to be something needing to be done on them, changing all the oils is quiet expensive too.
Parts are suprisingly quiet cheap, example an alternator for a Rangey was £50 new :y
We went looking for snow in them which was brilliant fun and also an offroading day in the first one :y :y :y
Pretty sure it is the 4.6 that had problems dropping liners.
Head Gaskets are pretty easy to do to as there is so much room in there, just climb in ;D
A neighbour used to work in the desert somewhere and he claims that Land Rangers etc etc are no match for either Land Rover or Range Rover.
I actually prefer the Classic shape, but Tunnie if you can afford a new Range Rover you must be a Rentboy ;D ;D ;D
I can't :'(
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We have had two Classic shaped Range Rovers and Mrs. Loo-knee regrets the day we sold the last one ::) I have not heard the last of it either ;D
There always seems to be something needing to be done on them, changing all the oils is quiet expensive too.
Parts are suprisingly quiet cheap, example an alternator for a Rangey was £50 new :y
We went looking for snow in them which was brilliant fun and also an offroading day in the first one :y :y :y
Pretty sure it is the 4.6 that had problems dropping liners.
Head Gaskets are pretty easy to do to as there is so much room in there, just climb in ;D
A neighbour used to work in the desert somewhere and he claims that Land Rangers etc etc are no match for either Land Rover or Range Rover.
I actually prefer the Classic shape, but Tunnie if you can afford a new Range Rover you must be a Rentboy ;D ;D ;D
I can't :'(
...Yet... But he's working hard ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D
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We have had two Classic shaped Range Rovers and Mrs. Loo-knee regrets the day we sold the last one ::) I have not heard the last of it either ;D
There always seems to be something needing to be done on them, changing all the oils is quiet expensive too.
Parts are suprisingly quiet cheap, example an alternator for a Rangey was £50 new :y
We went looking for snow in them which was brilliant fun and also an offroading day in the first one :y :y :y
Pretty sure it is the 4.6 that had problems dropping liners.
Head Gaskets are pretty easy to do to as there is so much room in there, just climb in ;D
A neighbour used to work in the desert somewhere and he claims that Land Rangers etc etc are no match for either Land Rover or Range Rover.
I actually prefer the Classic shape, but Tunnie if you can afford a new Range Rover you must be a Rentboy ;D ;D ;D
I can't :'(
...Yet... But he's working hard ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D
Tell me about it, worked Monday, going in tomorrow. Not due in again till Thursday ;D
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We have had two Classic shaped Range Rovers and Mrs. Loo-knee regrets the day we sold the last one ::) I have not heard the last of it either ;D
There always seems to be something needing to be done on them, changing all the oils is quiet expensive too.
Parts are suprisingly quiet cheap, example an alternator for a Rangey was £50 new :y
We went looking for snow in them which was brilliant fun and also an offroading day in the first one :y :y :y
Pretty sure it is the 4.6 that had problems dropping liners.
Head Gaskets are pretty easy to do to as there is so much room in there, just climb in ;D
A neighbour used to work in the desert somewhere and he claims that Land Rangers etc etc are no match for either Land Rover or Range Rover.
I actually prefer the Classic shape, but Tunnie if you can afford a new Range Rover you must be a Rentboy ;D ;D ;D
I can't :'(
...Yet... But he's working hard ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D
Tell me about it, worked Monday, going in tomorrow. Not due in again till Thursday ;D
Renting yourself out must pay well then if you can afford such short weeks :-X :-X ;D ;D
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We have had two Classic shaped Range Rovers and Mrs. Loo-knee regrets the day we sold the last one ::) I have not heard the last of it either ;D
There always seems to be something needing to be done on them, changing all the oils is quiet expensive too.
Parts are suprisingly quiet cheap, example an alternator for a Rangey was £50 new :y
We went looking for snow in them which was brilliant fun and also an offroading day in the first one :y :y :y
Pretty sure it is the 4.6 that had problems dropping liners.
Head Gaskets are pretty easy to do to as there is so much room in there, just climb in ;D
A neighbour used to work in the desert somewhere and he claims that Land Rangers etc etc are no match for either Land Rover or Range Rover.
I actually prefer the Classic shape, but Tunnie if you can afford a new Range Rover you must be a Rentboy ;D ;D ;D
I'm now veering towards the old Land Rover, but I guess they've just gone up in price! :P :-/ :'(
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Ive lost mine.to SWMBO temporarily...have a 4.0 Vogue 2002 p38 Love it.
Due to our weather - we have been white since 17 December my wife has used daily - horses are kept at stables that have nearly 2 feet of snow in places.
The Rangie has been phenomenal - now thinking of a couple of L322`s ( selling the Jag, Rangie and clitSport)
Does that qualify as downsizing ? ;D
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the trouble with getting a rangie, means no excuses on getting to work ;D
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Meant to say - clit has been holed up since 17/12 simply wont go - mind you 182 horses on the wrong wheels :(
Jag AWD also been brilliant :y
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There seem to be a few members who also have Range Rovers. I'm toying with the thought of being able to go out in this sort of weather. Any advice on buying one second hand, apart from FSH etc, any particular model to go for? All opinions welcomed, thinking up to £5000:-/ :y
Getting back to original poster.
£5000 will get you a very good 4.0 v8. Dont go for 4.6 there more prone to head issues - although its hardly a 1 in 2 failure ratio!
4.0 is pretty bombproof and the performance difference is minimum.
Avoid the diesels in this price range as it will be 2.5litre P38 for this money. Really want a diesel then as a minimum double your outlay and get a post 2002 TDV6.
Issues to look for - like any car the basics - As much history as possible, as many stamps in the book as possible etc etc.
Specific to the Rangie - check the Height Ajustable Suspension - play around with it onthe move and ensure it changes as it should. IE it will move to motorway mode over 60mph. It is a part that is more prone to failing and can climb to a 4 figure outlay to replace worst case !
Rear Drop down tailgate can rust - have a good look.
Check from whines and groans from suspension and box / axel at speed.
DIY servicing easy due to layout and parts not that expensive if you keep away from main dealers.
What model ? Vogue is top spec, HSE next, followed by the SE.
Vogue post 2000 has everything you can think of - mine has DVDs in headrests, Sat Nav, 6 disc changer seperate sub woofer and standard Harman Kardon sounds. All totally standard. HSE is pretty similar in equipment just less ICE and less "walnut"
All will have leather and electric everything.
Hope this helps and if anyone disagrees ..remember its just my opinion :y
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I have a 4.0l 2000 cherokee and it has been superb in this weather, simple in design and build, creaks and rattles all over the place, but it goes where you ask it to go,and i pushed my dads 3.2 elite up a hill in dartford without any problems at all.
Gary. :)
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Lada Niva :y :y :y
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Lada Niva :y :y :y
Fantastic offroad car :y
When went on an Offroading Day there were alot of those and Suzuki Rhino's getting everywhere..
Brilliant funday :y
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There seem to be a few members who also have Range Rovers. I'm toying with the thought of being able to go out in this sort of weather. Any advice on buying one second hand, apart from FSH etc, any particular model to go for? All opinions welcomed, thinking up to £5000:-/ :y
Getting back to original poster.
£5000 will get you a very good 4.0 v8. Dont go for 4.6 there more prone to head issues - although its hardly a 1 in 2 failure ratio!
4.0 is pretty bombproof and the performance difference is minimum.
Avoid the diesels in this price range as it will be 2.5litre P38 for this money. Really want a diesel then as a minimum double your outlay and get a post 2002 TDV6.
Issues to look for - like any car the basics - As much history as possible, as many stamps in the book as possible etc etc.
Specific to the Rangie - check the Height Ajustable Suspension - play around with it onthe move and ensure it changes as it should. IE it will move to motorway mode over 60mph. It is a part that is more prone to failing and can climb to a 4 figure outlay to replace worst case !
Rear Drop down tailgate can rust - have a good look.
Check from whines and groans from suspension and box / axel at speed.
DIY servicing easy due to layout and parts not that expensive if you keep away from main dealers.
What model ? Vogue is top spec, HSE next, followed by the SE.
Vogue post 2000 has everything you can think of - mine has DVDs in headrests, Sat Nav, 6 disc changer seperate sub woofer and standard Harman Kardon sounds. All totally standard. HSE is pretty similar in equipment just less ICE and less "walnut"
All will have leather and electric everything.
Hope this helps and if anyone disagrees ..remember its just my opinion :y
Thanks for all that info. :y :y :y