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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: smartrs on 11 January 2010, 21:25:18
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just been to look at a 51 plate omega very clean car as documented 50000 miles 1 owner from new the on inspection around the out side of the car and inside the car it is in very very good condishion lots of service history, start on my poking around the engine bay take a look under the oil filer cap nothing bad there just a little gunk like on most so i check the dip stick that is fine but on looking into the expanshion tank it is oily in there so i stick my finger in and it cmes out with oily watery mix on it so i go off and chat to the car sales owner who says to me that the car has been in the garage and had something done to do with the oil and rings the mechanic that did the work and lets him te me what hes done , the mechanic tells m that the car has had a new oil cooler and the oil is just whats left in the coolent system . now i am worried that it may be head gasget(s) the owner of the sales place says to me that he puts warrentys on his cars anyway and athough he is 100% the car is fine he said he would extened his normal warrenty so i have peice of mind if it does go wrong he has also said he will cover any cost to have the car recovered to his mechanic free of charge if needed and he wil carry out all repairs at his cost .
my question is woud you take a chance and buy the car ??
sorry for such a long winded post ::)
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Oil cooler failure is substantially more common than head gasket failure on the V6. Possible that the garage owner is being quite straight up with you as it takes a while to clear the resultant mayo/gunk out the cooling system.
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just been to look at a 51 plate omega very clean car as documented 50000 miles 1 owner from new the on inspection around the out side of the car and inside the car it is in very very good condishion lots of service history, start on my poking around the engine bay take a look under the oil filer cap nothing bad there just a little gunk like on most so i check the dip stick that is fine but on looking into the expanshion tank it is oily in there so i stick my finger in and it cmes out with oily watery mix on it so i go off and chat to the car sales owner who says to me that the car has been in the garage and had something done to do with the oil and rings the mechanic that did the work and lets him te me what hes done , the mechanic tells m that the car has had a new oil cooler and the oil is just whats left in the coolent system . now i am worried that it may be head gasget(s) the owner of the sales place says to me that he puts warrentys on his cars anyway and athough he is 100% the car is fine he said he would extened his normal warrenty so i have peice of mind if it does go wrong he has also said he will cover any cost to have the car recovered to his mechanic free of charge if needed and he wil carry out all repairs at his cost .
my question is woud you take a chance and buy the car ??
sorry for such a long winded post ::)
cant they get their stories straight
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oil cooler is a fairly common failure, but its rarer on the later engines. It points to poor maintenance history as some V6's are 12 years old 160k and still on original oil cooler.
50k (if thats its true millage) points to some abuse IMO, its very unlikey to be HG on the 2.6.
I would check very carefully its millage, look at the steering wheel, pedals, gear stick, if its auto check things like S button
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Oil in the coolant left over from the oil cooler failing is common. If you're really interested in the car then insist on a signed receipt stating they will cover it under warranty and also insist they flush it another dozen times and refill with fresh anti-freeze mix.
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just been to look at a 51 plate omega very clean car as documented 50000 miles 1 owner from new the on inspection around the out side of the car and inside the car it is in very very good condishion lots of service history, start on my poking around the engine bay take a look under the oil filer cap nothing bad there just a little gunk like on most so i check the dip stick that is fine but on looking into the expanshion tank it is oily in there so i stick my finger in and it cmes out with oily watery mix on it so i go off and chat to the car sales owner who says to me that the car has been in the garage and had something done to do with the oil and rings the mechanic that did the work and lets him te me what hes done , the mechanic tells m that the car has had a new oil cooler and the oil is just whats left in the coolent system . now i am worried that it may be head gasget(s) the owner of the sales place says to me that he puts warrentys on his cars anyway and athough he is 100% the car is fine he said he would extened his normal warrenty so i have peice of mind if it does go wrong he has also said he will cover any cost to have the car recovered to his mechanic free of charge if needed and he wil carry out all repairs at his cost .
my question is woud you take a chance and buy the car ??
sorry for such a long winded post ::)
cant they get their stories straight
think thats just the way ive explained it rarther than that
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Oil in the coolant left over from the oil cooler failing is common. If you're really interested in the car then insist on a signed receipt stating they will cover it under warranty and also insist they flush it another dozen times and refill with fresh anti-freeze mix.
he has offered to put it all down in writing and to flush the system
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oil cooler is a fairly common failure, but its rarer on the later engines. It points to poor maintenance history as some V6's are 12 years old 160k and still on original oil cooler.
50k (if thats its true millage) points to some abuse IMO, its very unlikey to be HG on the 2.6.
I would check very carefully its millage, look at the steering wheel, pedals, gear stick, if its auto check things like S button
there is no indercation of abuse it looks a new car inside ooks like it has been we kept the car has all past mots to check the mileage and it all checks out
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Oil in the coolant left over from the oil cooler failing is common. If you're really interested in the car then insist on a signed receipt stating they will cover it under warranty and also insist they flush it another dozen times and refill with fresh anti-freeze mix.
he has offered to put it all down in writing and to flush the system
Sounds like he trusts his fitters !! With that sort of promise.. if the price is right it sounds like it could be a good buy ..
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the price is fair, i think it is a nice car very clean
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oil cooler is a fairly common failure, but its rarer on the later engines. It points to poor maintenance history as some V6's are 12 years old 160k and still on original oil cooler.
50k (if thats its true millage) points to some abuse IMO, its very unlikey to be HG on the 2.6.
I would check very carefully its millage, look at the steering wheel, pedals, gear stick, if its auto check things like S button
there is no indercation of abuse it looks a new car inside ooks like it has been we kept the car has all past mots to check the mileage and it all checks out
Failed oil cooler at just 50k combined with this other 'ring work' suggests a very different story!
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oil cooler is a fairly common failure, but its rarer on the later engines. It points to poor maintenance history as some V6's are 12 years old 160k and still on original oil cooler.
50k (if thats its true millage) points to some abuse IMO, its very unlikey to be HG on the 2.6.
I would check very carefully its millage, look at the steering wheel, pedals, gear stick, if its auto check things like S button
there is no indercation of abuse it looks a new car inside ooks like it has been we kept the car has all past mots to check the mileage and it all checks out
Failed oil cooler at just 50k combined with this other 'ring work' suggests a very different story!
sorry thats my bad punctuation it should read .....
"the deaer says it had something done to do with the oil and then rings the mechanic......."
sorry .
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oil cooler is a fairly common failure, but its rarer on the later engines. It points to poor maintenance history as some V6's are 12 years old 160k and still on original oil cooler.
50k (if thats its true millage) points to some abuse IMO, its very unlikey to be HG on the 2.6.
I would check very carefully its millage, look at the steering wheel, pedals, gear stick, if its auto check things like S button
there is no indercation of abuse it looks a new car inside ooks like it has been we kept the car has all past mots to check the mileage and it all checks out
Failed oil cooler at just 50k combined with this other 'ring work' suggests a very different story!
sorry thats my bad punctuation it should read .....
"the deaer says it had something done to do with the oil and then rings the mechanic......."
sorry .
Omega's wear incredibly well, some examples with 150k on, could be wound back to 50k and look genuine. So just be careful :y
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oil cooler is a fairly common failure, but its rarer on the later engines. It points to poor maintenance history as some V6's are 12 years old 160k and still on original oil cooler.
50k (if thats its true millage) points to some abuse IMO, its very unlikey to be HG on the 2.6.
I would check very carefully its millage, look at the steering wheel, pedals, gear stick, if its auto check things like S button
there is no indercation of abuse it looks a new car inside ooks like it has been we kept the car has all past mots to check the mileage and it all checks out
Failed oil cooler at just 50k combined with this other 'ring work' suggests a very different story!
sorry thats my bad punctuation it should read .....
"the deaer says it had something done to do with the oil and then rings the mechanic......."
sorry .
Omega's wear incredibly well, some examples with 150k on, could be wound back to 50k and look genuine. So just be careful :y
if i do go for it and take the warrenty he is offering i will drop it stright round to my machanic who is gonna do the test to see if a head gasget has gone then take it from there . unless they have faked all past mots and other service suff i cant see that mileage being wrong , i know it can be done .
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Omega's wear incredibly well, some examples with 150k on, could be wound back to 50k and look genuine. So just be careful :y
Oil cooler failure is age not mileage related though. Probably just had a weak coolant mixture. if it's been changed and proper coolant mix added, I wouldn't be too worried.
Kevin
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I'd say it's probably genuine in light of the trust he's placing in the mechanic :y
If the price is right, and may we ask how much it's advertised for (not the price you've negotiated if you don't want ;)), then go for it but with the extended warranty and everything else in writing (especially the recovery part) :y
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The oil cooler story adds up,sounds genuine to me.If he is happy to put his words in writng I see no reason not to buy the car tbh.
He could have saved himself a fair bit of hassle with the job of trying to sell it if he had done a few more flushes though. ;)
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what is a good price for one it has the manual box 12 month MOT and 6 month tax and a full tank of fuel lol
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what is a good price for one it has the manual box 12 month MOT and 6 month tax and a full tank of fuel lol
About £400 with those details ::) ::) ::)
Seriously though... It's worth whatever you're willing to pay ;) ;)
From a dealer I reckon it's got to be around the £1500 mark as a minimum... Probably closer to £2k :-? :-?
[edit]I reckon it's advertised for £2495, so I'd offer £2k to start[/edit]
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I would think if its all straight and what he says is true it is probably worth about £1300-£1500 tops.......???
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theres a big difference there one say he thinks it would beup for £2495 and the other says its worth £1500 max lol
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what is a good price for one it has the manual box 12 month MOT and 6 month tax and a full tank of fuel lol
About £400 with those details ::) ::) ::)
Seriously though... It's worth whatever you're willing to pay ;) ;)
From a dealer I reckon it's got to be around the £1500 mark as a minimum... Probably closer to £2k :-? :-?
[edit]I reckon it's advertised for £2495, so I'd offer £2k to start[/edit]
Just to add... That doesn't mean I'd pay that much... I wouldn't pay any more than £1500 for it, but I'm tight ::) ;D
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theres a big difference there one say he thinks it would beup for £2495 and the other says its worth £1500 max lol
Exactly... Dealers normally over price the cars by £500-1500 to leave room for a deal and a nice big profit ;) ;)
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the price i got him to was a little higher than £1500 not a lot but higher i think i will go for it as like has been said above if the dealer it willing to put the warrenty into writing it has got to be worth a go for what i think is a lovely car and i am quite fussy with cars
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Just make sure YOU are totolly happy with both the price and the car......they are the two things that matter......
Anything else is just someones opinion.......
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and itwas not advertised as high as £2495 else i would of been proud of my haggling skills
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the price i got him to was a little higher than £1500 not a lot but higher i think i will go for it as like has been said above if the dealer it willing to put the warrenty into writing it has got to be worth a go for what i think is a lovely car and i am quite fussy with cars
Not at all unreasonable from a dealer :y :y
Just out of interest... What did he advertise it for :-? :question
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and itwas not advertised as high as £2495 else i would of been proud of my haggling skills
Sounds like this dealer has a little contact with reality still ;) :y
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£1695
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was just thinking how much it costs to fill the tank on it ? it must be £70 quid if not more lol
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oil cooler is a fairly common failure, but its rarer on the later engines. It points to poor maintenance history as some V6's are 12 years old 160k and still on original oil cooler.
50k (if thats its true millage) points to some abuse IMO, its very unlikey to be HG on the 2.6.
I would check very carefully its millage, look at the steering wheel, pedals, gear stick, if its auto check things like S button
there is no indercation of abuse it looks a new car inside ooks like it has been we kept the car has all past mots to check the mileage and it all checks out
Failed oil cooler at just 50k combined with this other 'ring work' suggests a very different story!
RIng work as in telephone ring ::) ::) ::) ::)
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was just thinking how much it costs to fill the tank on it ? it must be £70 quid if not more lol
Hence the start of £400 in my earlier post... £72 odd of fuel and £210 for tax, plus "scrap" weight of car ;D ;D ;D
As long as you're happy with the price it sounds good, as long as he puts everything in writing for you ;) ;)
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was just thinking how much it costs to fill the tank on it ? it must be £70 quid if not more lol
You'll find out soon enough, most omega owners can tell you how much it is at every petrol station they pass around ;D ;D
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i all ready got a 2.5v6 now so i know what its like with fuel i also have are i say it here a cosworth which driving that the fuel gauge moves down asthe revs go up :'( :y
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i all ready got a 2.5v6 now so i know what its like with fuel i also have are i say it here a cosworth which driving that the fuel gauge moves down asthe revs go up :'( :y
;D ;D ;D
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the deal has been done lol now just finger crossed ive not made a big mistake :o lol only thing i was thinking was letting it down was not having 17" alloys lol or even sme nice 18" irmchers ::)