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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Bo Bo on 18 June 2007, 14:10:21
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Yep, got one yesterday :( driving home from my girlfriends after spending our first weekend together :) guess my mind was elsewhere ::)
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Yep, got one yesterday :( driving home from my girlfriends after spending our first weekend together :) guess my mind was elsewhere ::)
Do Tell ::)
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I'm waiting for one in the post >:( Driving through a confused mixture of 30,40 & 50 mph urban dual carriageways. Drive past a smart sign that usually illuminates at sub-30, in a 30MPH limit. It doesn't light up. "Strange", I think. Look down at speedo and see 36-38 MPH oops!. Look ahead, Talivan hiding under a tree. >:(
Went back along the same road later on, when Talivan had gone. Smart warning sign now illuminating at indicated 30 MPH >:(
Fair enough, I was speeding and I'm not trying to wriggle out of it, but if I do get an NIP I will be asking what road safety benefit there is in disabling smart signs, or whether they are after all just out to raise revenue.
Kevin
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Yep, got one yesterday :( driving home from my girlfriends after spending our first weekend together :) guess my mind was elsewhere ::)
Do Tell ::)
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I'm waiting for one in the post >:( Driving through a confused mixture of 30,40 & 50 mph urban dual carriageways. Drive past a smart sign that usually illuminates at sub-30, in a 30MPH limit. It doesn't light up. "Strange", I think. Look down at speedo and see 36-38 MPH oops!. Look ahead, Talivan hiding under a tree. >:(
Went back along the same road later on, when Talivan had gone. Smart warning sign now illuminating at indicated 30 MPH >:(
Fair enough, I was speeding and I'm not trying to wriggle out of it, but if I do get an NIP I will be asking what road safety benefit there is in disabling smart signs, or whether they are after all just out to raise revenue.
Kevin
The speedos over read so 36 on the speedo is about 33, you MAY get a ticket but I doubt it - mention the faulty reminder sign - but I reckon it interfeared with the talivan ::)
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you MAY get a ticket but I doubt it
Yeah, it's probably right on the borderline at that sort of speed. Just trying to remember if my speed was "stable at" 36-38 or "descending through" at the time :-/
mention the faulty reminder sign - but I reckon it interfeared with the talivan Roll Eyes
Well, I'll be asking how a (probably) doppler radar detector in the sign interfered with a (probably) laser detector in the talivan in that case! One has wavelength in centimetres, the other in nanometres!
Kevin
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I'm waiting for one in the post >:( Driving through a confused mixture of 30,40 & 50 mph urban dual carriageways. Drive past a smart sign that usually illuminates at sub-30, in a 30MPH limit. It doesn't light up. "Strange", I think. Look down at speedo and see 36-38 MPH oops!. Look ahead, Talivan hiding under a tree. >:(
Went back along the same road later on, when Talivan had gone. Smart warning sign now illuminating at indicated 30 MPH >:(
Fair enough, I was speeding and I'm not trying to wriggle out of it, but if I do get an NIP I will be asking what road safety benefit there is in disabling smart signs, or whether they are after all just out to raise revenue.
Kevin
We have one of those signs around our way, i complained that it didn't work all the time, was told that it was programmed to only come on at certain times when the traffic is at its busiest :o
Couldnt see the logic myself, why not have the bleeding thing on all the time!!
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you MAY get a ticket but I doubt it
Yeah, it's probably right on the borderline at that sort of speed. Just trying to remember if my speed was "stable at" 36-38 or "descending through" at the time :-/
mention the faulty reminder sign - but I reckon it interfeared with the talivan Roll Eyes
Well, I'll be asking how a (probably) doppler radar detector in the sign interfered with a (probably) laser detector in the talivan in that case! One has wavelength in centimetres, the other in nanometres!
Kevin
LTI-20-20 are not speed measuring kit but range finding kit so look up details and defend it.
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Yeah, it's probably right on the borderline at that sort of speed. Just trying to remember if my speed was "stable at" 36-38 or "descending through" at the time :-/ .......
There's also the possiblity of being 'invited' on a speed awareness course! ::)
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A well known bearded officer also posts at this site http://www.pepipoo.com/
May be worth a look :y
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The last SP30 I got was when I was 17 and tried to race a car at night in my 1.2 Astra. I couldn't shift it though and eventually the moonlight gave the light bar away - just before it lit up the sky.
Turned out to be a Cav SRI and two cars later I got one. When Police switched to Omega's so did I.
Out local persuit car is an Evo8 ::)
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Yep, got one yesterday :( driving home from my girlfriends after spending our first weekend together :) guess my mind was elsewhere ::)
Do Tell ::)
probably in the gutter.....
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Those are prime talivan locations, I scared a talivan once on the A30 in Devon, it was half on verge and partly in lane 1, VERY DANGEROUSLY PARKED. I was in lane one and caravans are wider than cars, I was being passed I missed the talivan by mere inches. I saw lorries in front doing the same!!!!
Traffic cops know what they are doing, but speed camera operators I think there is something wrong with a lot of them, I have seen the Worcester one speeding as well!
Couple of years ago I was stopped by the Police just to be warned that there was going to be a speed trap in a particular village, they were stopping a few regulars (as noted by residents to let them know!) I chatted for a while, mentioned what I thought was the best location for doing them, and also mentioned full acceleration from a 2.0 executive will sound faster than it is going up hil out of the village they stoped me near.
Seem them a few times, had a word about lack of lights on cars, they told me they were stopping them, last time they were at my danger spot as I wizzed past at about 25mph.
At work they were joking about my speeding (speed trap in work village) then Mr 45mph everywhere commented that I was carefull in villages and would be unlikely to be done, even though I go quite a bit over on very good visibility roads, but not too fast to stop. Mr 45 thought it was double standards moaning about his driving when I speed myself (where you see white circle and black diagonal)
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A well known bearded officer also posts at this site http://www.pepipoo.com/
May be worth a look :y
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I'm in court on Wednesday 10am for a 96mph in a 70. Going to attempt a not guilty ;)
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There's also the possiblity of being 'invited' on a speed awareness course!
Oh, boy! would I love that opportunity. Now, would I arrive in the Westfield or the Omega? :-/ .. and would I be able to resist the temptation to light up both rears on the way out just to demonstrate how successful the brainwashing has been?
I'm in court on Wednesday 10am for a 96mph in a 70. Going to attempt a not guilty
Well, good luck!
Kevin
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There's also the possiblity of being 'invited' on a speed awareness course! ::)
Unfortunately I wasn't offered that option :-?
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There's also the possiblity of being 'invited' on a speed awareness course! ::)
Unfortunately I wasn't offered that option :-?
Depends which police force and how far over the limit you were. I was zapped at 36/37 (can't remember) in a 30 and the choice was obviously £60 & 3 points or the course that cost £85 but didn't come with the points attached. Someone is making some cash out of that too. Best of it was that I saw the copper's car & dismissed it as a road tax dodgers camera! :( I was the only bugger on the road.
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There's also the possiblity of being 'invited' on a speed awareness course! ::)
Unfortunately I wasn't offered that option :-?
Depends which police force and how far over the limit you were. I was zapped at 36/37 (can't remember) in a 30 and the choice was obviously £60 & 3 points or the course that cost £85 but didn't come with the points attached. Someone is making some cash out of that too. Best of it was that I saw the copper's car & dismissed it as a road tax dodgers camera! :( I was the only bugger on the road.
Apart from the unmarked police car I was the only other car on the road, but was too far over the limit to be offered the course......
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Don't forget that when you get to Court and duly receive your motoring fine they'll add an extra £15 surcharge to "Aid Victims of Domestic Violence" ;)
Isn't our New Labour government absolutely wonderful
Thats what I'd call Justice :y
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Don't forget to notify your insurance company, otherwise you may invalidate your insurance.
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Don't forget that when you get to Court and duly receive your motoring fine they'll add an extra £15 surcharge to "Aid Victims of Domestic Violence" ;)
Isn't our New Labour government absolutely wonderful
Thats what I'd call Justice :y
Don't pay that bit and let them try - go to papers ect
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i got an SP30 when i first started driving, License is now clear again.
It was a fair cop, I was free rolling in 4th down a steep hill, 36 in a 30. One good thing from getting it taught me to keep it in 3rd when going down hills now...
I also went to a training thing, and spun cars around on a Skid pan, so not all bad! ;D
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Don't forget to notify your insurance company, otherwise you may invalidate your insurance.
If it is your first set of points then they dont tend to load the insurance premium.
Just about everyone at somepoint has had 3 points and so the insurance companies now see that as the norm unfortunatly
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I was free rolling in 4th down a steep hill
Its not that steep - you must have booted it at the top, as that is either a sharp bend at the top, or a give way...
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Yep, got one yesterday :( driving home from my girlfriends after spending our first weekend together :) guess my mind was elsewhere ::)
Mrs. Loo-knee's 85 year old Grandad got an SP30 for doing 34 in a 30..... He was over the moon seriously ;D
Just got him his insurance about two hundred pound cheaper and the SP30 didn't effect it...
Just Don't do it again Bo-Bo, you need to ask Elite Pete for a cd you will never drive fast to that ;D ;D
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i got my sp30 3 years ago 51 through a 40 zone on the a17. the thing is i had driven through that camera every day at 50+ for a year -never saw the reduced 40 sign! i could have had at least 750 points on my licence- i would have pleaded insanity!
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Don't forget to notify your insurance company, otherwise you may invalidate your insurance.
If it is your first set of points then they dont tend to load the insurance premium.
Just about everyone at somepoint has had 3 points and so the insurance companies now see that as the norm unfortunatly
My insurance comp doesnt bother unless youve got more than 6 points....they reckon 6 is pretty normal and dont load premiums for 6 points....if youve got more, like 9 then they think your a bit careless!
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Vast majority of insurance companies couldn't give a toss about three points, in my experience of telephoning them on behalf of 'my' customers....
Some bother about 6....
Most can be a problem to insured if 9 or more....
Pays to tell the company as and when you aquired them. Saves getting zapped for no insurance as well as whatever you are stopped for. If you didn't tell them, could be classed as a material non disclosure and thus insurance voided from inception...... :'(
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I believe the association of British insurers are currently reviewing their policy on this whole issue as there are now so many otherwise perfectly law abiding drivers out there with points on their licence due to the explosion in speed trap sites that it is simply no longer a terribly reliable guide any more to the risk they present. At the end of the day they are in the business to make money and if they are turning away the masses of people with points on their licences they are going loose an awful lot of customers. Here in south east London motor insurance seems to be increasingly something which is merely optional (along with driving on the left side of the road), a situation which exposes the total farce of the governments so called “Safe Roads Policy” Drive through Deptford or New Cross and the whole place is awash with uninsured, unregistered old bangers (many from abroad) being driven by non English speakers. I witnessed one plough into the side of a brand new chauffer driven S Class Mercedes (presumably taking a businessman to his office in the City of London) and it was both tragic and hilarious to watch the chaotic result (provided of course you were not the unfortunate victim). It simply drove off after a lot of shouting and cursing, smoking off into the distance bearing its smirking occupants looking to be thoroughly enjoying their new life in England.
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Thanks for the wake up call Markl. I thought we had it bad in Cornwall, what with the tractors and the summer tourist invasion. Just goes to show that we don't know how lucky we are.
I wonder if there is any common decency left at all in some of our big cities. :'(
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Interesting about the "uninsured bangers" from Europe. In Spain there is the same problem. UK plated cars here for longer than 6 months, some we have seen have been here over three years. No MOT, no tax and no valid insurance. Spanish cars have to display their ITV expiry date sticker in the windscreen and carry insurance and driving licence docs at all times. It is about time the UK followed suit.
The authorities don't seem to give a damn. Maybe it is easier to crack down on Spanish reg cars in Spain and UK reg in the UK. It is high time there was a standard across the EU to truly facilitate cross border travel etc.
olive
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If they are not insured then they will lose the money when their cars are smashed up
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The situation seems to work like this. Buy an old banger in a European Country (usually Germany but not exclusively so) drive it into the UK, and then drive around with impunity safe in the knowledge that you have immunity to any Gatso offences or Congestion Zone charges and are completely exempt vehicle tax (are you reading this Gordon). If you fancy some free petrol, no problem simply fill up and drive out. Take a look at the millions owed to Transport for London in unpaid Congestion Zone charges by foreign plated vehicles. Well guess what most are not foreign they now live in the UK but have never been registered. Once the car acquires too many Police PNC interest reports dump it on a local council estate, take an Easyjet flight to Europe and buy another. Its hilarious how many gentlemen you see of West African origin (this is not just a European problem, oh no) driving around in German plated bangers.
The Police will often avoid this problem due to the hassle of language and the sheer administrative difficulty of dealing with the situation, but in any case most Traffic Patrol specialists with the knowledge to deal with this have been replaced by far cheaper and much more profitable traffic cameras. Also if your working to meet targets it’s far easier to hit the generally law abiding in order to maximise your ticket count rather then end up spending the afternoon getting some old nail removed to a car pound, and waiting in a Police Station Custody area for hours with the driver for a foreign language interpreter and duty solicitor to arrive (you can add Appropriate Adult, Social Worker and Police Docter if they claim to have Mental Health Issues). Its human nature you take the easy route. Someone tell me this is not true, but trust me it is.
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Yep, got one yesterday :( driving home from my girlfriends after spending our first weekend together :) guess my mind was elsewhere ::)
I got 2 of the dam things, no one to blame but ME
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I got 2 of the dam things
What, girlfriends? :o or SP30s? :'(
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Kevin
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I dont want to tempt fate and tell you how long ive had a clean licence but it is a very long time ::)
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I dont want to tempt fate and tell you how long ive had a clean licence but it is a very long time ::)
I'm saying nothing for fear of picking up a ticket for the first time ever.....
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I dont want to tempt fate and tell you how long ive had a clean licence but it is a very long time ::)
I'm saying nothing for fear of picking up a ticket for the first time ever.....
Ah but your only a pup ;D
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I dont want to tempt fate and tell you how long ive had a clean licence but it is a very long time ::)
I'm saying nothing for fear of picking up a ticket for the first time ever.....
Ah but your only a pup ;D
I've been called many things, but never something so kind as that recently :D
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I'm saying nothing for fear of picking up a ticket for the first time ever.....
Never had one either, which is why I'm so annoyed with myself over last week's lapse of concentration. Still, it may not happen.... Might have caught them on their doughnut break ;D
Kevin
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I'm waiting for one in the post >:( Driving through a confused mixture of 30,40 & 50 mph urban dual carriageways. Drive past a smart sign that usually illuminates at sub-30, in a 30MPH limit. It doesn't light up. "Strange", I think. Look down at speedo and see 36-38 MPH oops!. Look ahead, Talivan hiding under a tree. >:(
Went back along the same road later on, when Talivan had gone. Smart warning sign now illuminating at indicated 30 MPH >:(
Fair enough, I was speeding and I'm not trying to wriggle out of it, but if I do get an NIP I will be asking what road safety benefit there is in disabling smart signs, or whether they are after all just out to raise revenue.
Kevin
We have one of those signs around our way, i complained that it didn't work all the time, was told that it was programmed to only come on at certain times when the traffic is at its busiest :o
Couldnt see the logic myself, why not have the bleeding thing on all the time!!
I'll bet it's got a solar panel on it.... battery saving mode ;D ;D ;D ;D We've got some with wind generators on too!! Going to nick one for my caravan... :o
DC
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it is possible to go over 12 pts on your licence an keep it.. you are allowed to use the lose my licence an lose my job clause (i lose my licence i be unable to get to work or i need my licence for work i.e. lorry driver,taxi,other people rely on me) its worked for me when i was a self employed despatch rider i got 15 pts over 3yrs from various police forces i.e. west mids,west mercia,gloucestershire... i got done by gloucestershire force when i was held back for 2 hours by the cps in brum whilst they got a case filesorted out that had been lost for an important cps case in bristol that would of gone belly up if i wasnt ther by 12pm...it went belly up i got a rollocking off my supervisor for being 45 mins late after she promised it would be there by 12pm!!! can i help if the copper daye believe?? an to top it all he followed me for 10 miles to make i daye speed no more..i mean it was only 97.56 miles an hour for an average speed.. not bad for a kawsaki gt 550... 8-) 8-)
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When I taxed my car online last week; all I had to do was supply their reference number (& payment details) yet I had to go to a police station & produce the relevant documents. I thought the police had this information?
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it is possible to go over 12 pts on your licence an keep it..
As I replied to a post last week or so, a bloke at work has accumulated 18 or 19 & kept it! How I haven't a clue! :-?
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you plead poverty via your solicitor and the clerk of the court takes it into consideration an then recommends to the 3 wise monkeys..sorry magistrates wot course of action to take you are only supposed to use it once in your lifetime but if the court dont put it on your record then if your solictor notice it he/she trys it again an like in my case walsall daye put it on record so she used it again at warley magistrate i learnt my lesson then not put my hard earned money into pc plods coffers...but it must of been exceptional circumstances for that person to keep their licence...
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it is possible to go over 12 pts on your licence an keep it.. you are allowed to use the lose my licence an lose my job clause (i lose my licence i be unable to get to work or i need my licence for work i.e. lorry driver,taxi,other people rely on me) its worked for me when i was a self employed despatch rider i got 15 pts over 3yrs from various police forces i.e. west mids,west mercia,gloucestershire... i got done by gloucestershire force when i was held back for 2 hours by the cps in brum whilst they got a case filesorted out that had been lost for an important cps case in bristol that would of gone belly up if i wasnt ther by 12pm...it went belly up i got a rollocking off my supervisor for being 45 mins late after she promised it would be there by 12pm!!! can i help if the copper daye believe?? an to top it all he followed me for 10 miles to make i daye speed no more..i mean it was only 97.56 miles an hour for an average speed.. not bad for a kawsaki gt 550... 8-) 8-)
daye????
Gloucestershire Police and courts - well sod the crime rate see our traffic convictions >:(
Since I lived there so many cameras are artificially low limits it is ridiculous
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One of my brothers kept his licence after being caught at 3 digit speeds on A11 one evening - his (then) boss (a well known figure in motorsport) said in court how a licence was essential to my brother, and helped keep UK at the forefront in the sport.
So, it seems, if your boss is prepared to go to court and give a bit of billy bull, you can keep it.
He ended up with loadsa points and a huge fine, but was still allowed to drive...
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One of my brothers kept his licence after being caught at 3 digit speeds on A11 one evening - his (then) boss (a well known figure in motorsport) said in court how a licence was essential to my brother, and helped keep UK at the forefront in the sport.
So, it seems, if your boss is prepared to go to court and give a bit of billy bull, you can keep it.
He ended up with loadsa points and a huge fine, but was still allowed to drive...
I think most of us will agree, if a vehicle is capable of such speeds and the conditions are suitable, that it's not really an issue, "That speed thing!" I have an aquantance who purchaced a Jaguar XK220, brought it down the M6 to Stoke @ 180 mph... No problems, safe conditions, straight empty road! On the Sunday a week later, he wrapped it around a lamp post @ 30 mph.... As I say, horses for courses....
DC
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When I taxed my car online last week; all I had to do was supply their reference number (& payment details) yet I had to go to a police station & produce the relevant documents. I thought the police had this information?
we do but can only use it for certain reasons... dont know why you were geven a hort/1 if it was for an accident then we are not allowed to put the insurance details from the PNC onto the accident report as Experien (the poeple who supply the insurance database) state it should only be used for investigation into whether the perosn/vehicle is insured.
Its all about data protection
As a rule a normal stop check for no seatbelt or whatever should'nt result in you having to go to the police station to produce the documents because we can check everything now... Driving licence/insurance/MOT and tax.
I am just waiting for the damn thing to tell me the bra size of the ladies i stop!
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I'm in court on Wednesday 10am for a 96mph in a 70. Going to attempt a not guilty ;)
To be honest....You deserve to be convicted.. thats just too fast.
What is your defence then....
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When I taxed my car online last week; all I had to do was supply their reference number (& payment details) yet I had to go to a police station & produce the relevant documents. I thought the police had this information?
we do but can only use it for certain reasons... dont know why you were geven a hort/1 if it was for an accident then we are not allowed to put the insurance details from the PNC onto the accident report as Experien (the poeple who supply the insurance database) state it should only be used for investigation into whether the perosn/vehicle is insured.
Its all about data protection
As a rule a normal stop check for no seatbelt or whatever should'nt result in you having to go to the police station to produce the documents because we can check everything now... Driving licence/insurance/MOT and tax.
I am just waiting for the damn thing to tell me the bra size of the ladies i stop!
"Could you please blow into this madam!" ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :y
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As a rule a normal stop check for no seatbelt or whatever should'nt result in you having to go to the police station to produce the documents because we can check everything now... Driving licence/insurance/MOT and tax
how long have the police been able to access the data? is it only traffic cops that do this?
Only asking because I was stopped by a regular beat car for driving "a bit too quickly" and I was given a producer, took my documents into the local "nick" the following day, but this was in november 2005...
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Last time i got stopped it was by traffic, coz according to them i wasnt showing as having insurance.....they did ask had i recently bought the car...answer yes 2 weeks ago...and i pointed out the taxi plate attached to rear of the car meant i had insurance.....coz the council wont issue a plate without seeing valid insurance doc and mot.
Still got a producer for mot and insurance >:(
When i did produce next day.....i said to desk civilian, bit of waste of time really isnt it as its a licensed taxi.....answer was ummm is really!
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To be honest....You deserve to be convicted.. thats just too fast.
What is your defence then....
At risk of causing upset .... again! ::)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/shropshire/4559173.stm although double the speed in the 30 & 60 is to me the worse offence.
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To be honest....You deserve to be convicted.. thats just too fast.
What is your defence then....
At risk of causing upset .... again! ::)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/shropshire/4559173.stm although double the speed in the 30 & 60 is to me the worse offence.
Here, Here....
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To be honest....You deserve to be convicted.. thats just too fast.
What is your defence then....
At risk of causing upset .... again! ::)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/shropshire/4559173.stm although double the speed in the 30 & 60 is to me the worse offence.
old news......
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old news......
It is indeed. :y