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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: SP_3.2 on 15 December 2009, 16:17:43
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Not sure if many have noticed the same but find as my tyres wear it gets worse. Still about 4mm left and due a new pair in the a few weeks after payday.
Just trying to think of which ones to go for this time may try Conti or brigestones
Thanks
Steve.
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Cem talks highly of Bridgestone potenza, premium tyre and not sure of durabillity though.
Both myself and Kevin Wood are currently running conti sports contact 3. We both very happy it seems as are some other members on here but early days re tyre ware.
Dunlop seem to be fairly popular on the Omega despite the usual road noise that comes with them, although they have a new (ish?) model that claims to be quiet. Beleive it when i hear it. :-)
Covered in another post of mine in this section.
Allways takes a couple of k for the car set up to take its toll on new tyres and their accuracy and seems to be down hill from there. Camber or uneven ware across the tread seems to be the killer afaict.
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Thinking about one of the 2 Hope that a fresh pair with 8mm will make a good diffrents
was reading this a few year old but some good points. :y
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=37181
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Thinking about one of the 2 Hope that a fresh pair with 8mm will make a good diffrents
was reading this a few year old but some good points. :y
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=37181
some good points yes, but the op in the link is comparing old bad handeling tyres with brand new, it will feel like a new car with most brands of new tyre fitted if the set up is ok.
But the advise is sound, check the car for suspension faults, get the set up adjusted if need be and then fit new tyres to get the best from them over their life span, with decent tyres you should be fine :)
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Speaking of camber adjustments there is no other place like WIM - I was there last weekend and I was not charged a single dime for minor adjustments (before there in summer and paid for the usual price). Tony did work for 30mins and I was a happy customer who will return time and again :y :y
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Not sure if many have noticed the same but find as my tyres wear it gets worse. Still about 4mm left and due a new pair in the a few weeks after payday.
Just trying to think of which ones to go for this time may try Conti or brigestones
Thanks
Steve.
I agree Steve, I've always had this with my Omega despite repeat visits to WIM. I've been told that wider tyres are a bit more prone to tramlining, and as I have 235/40/R17 on the front wheels it would certainly seem to be the case, but I have noticed a difference with different tyres. I found Falken FK-452's to be particularly bad, especially once they started wearing a bit. I currently have Bridgestone Potenza SO2's fitted on the front, and while they are far superior to the Falken's I still get a bit of tramlining once they start wearing. Think I've got quite used to it now! ::)
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Hi Bob
How you doing
Yer know what you mean. I have Brigestones on the back which are good.Looks like the Chrismas gift to the car will be a new set of them or Conti as i have heard good things from Chris and Kevin .
Thanks
Steve.
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Got conti's on my car, seem very very good :y
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I can second the Conti's. Amazing set of tyres - quiteness and smootness is immediately apparent. :y
Not cheap though.
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I have had Toyo Proxies T1R's on my MV6 for about 6 weeks now.
They are a really grippy tyre, not had the back end out once. I'm not so keen on the ride, they give quite a lot of road noise. Absolutely no tramlining as yet, but, obviously too early to tell about wear rate!
I'm still not too sure how they perform in the dry though!!!! :(
I, so far, prefer them to the Sport Contact 3's that it had previously, they had very little grip and weren't particularly hard wearing! They were more fun for playing though!!! ::)
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I have had Toyo Proxies T1R's on my MV6 for about 6 weeks now.
They are a really grippy tyre, not had the back end out once. I'm not so keen on the ride, they give quite a lot of road noise. Absolutely no tramlining as yet, but, obviously too early to tell about wear rate!
I'm still not too sure how they perform in the dry though!!!! :(
I, so far, prefer them to the Sport Contact 3's that it had previously, they had very little grip and weren't particularly hard wearing! They were more fun for playing though!!! ::)
I hope you havent had your back end out l-jay. ;D ;D ;D
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I have had Toyo Proxies T1R's on my MV6 for about 6 weeks now.
They are a really grippy tyre, not had the back end out once. I'm not so keen on the ride, they give quite a lot of road noise. Absolutely no tramlining as yet, but, obviously too early to tell about wear rate!
I'm still not too sure how they perform in the dry though!!!! :(
I, so far, prefer them to the Sport Contact 3's that it had previously, they had very little grip and weren't particularly hard wearing! They were more fun for playing though!!! ::)
I hope you havent had your back end out l-jay. ;D ;D ;D
Now that, would be telling!!! ;) :-X
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Just swapped my four tyres for new and there is an instant difference to the handling and accuracy on the road-the tramlining has reduced massively too.
Removed 4x Federal SS535 225/55/16 V, fronts with 4mm, rears 2.5mm-this was done because I got a screw through one of the decent fronts which was too close to the edge to repair and the rears were almost out. I kept the one 4mm tyre in case anyone needs it to make up a set.
I always keep a matching set of 4 tyres on the car and looked at the options. I wanted Contis but cheapest was £380 for 4 fitted (cheapest supplier plus local fitter) so I looked around.
The identical Federals were £230 fitted as above, but they tramline spectacularly and I have read good things about (Chinese) Triangle Talons being ok as budget tyres so have had a punt at them
Cheapest was £168 delivered plus £10 per tyre fully fitted-£208, but that meant waiting for delivery while I had a slow puncture, so negotiated with local dealer who had them in stock and agreed on £220 for 4 fitted:- £55 each, including new valve, balancing with the decent stuck on weights and old tyre case disposal.
They have the rim protector style that I like and an attractive tread pattern and I have felt an instant grip difference, but will hold judgment until I have run them for a few months....
I wonder how well they will wear and what the grip will be like in various conditions? Hmmmm.
Cheap enough, but good value?
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Just swapped my four tyres for new and there is an instant difference to the handling and accuracy on the road-the tramlining has reduced massively too.
Removed 4x Federal SS535 225/55/16 V, fronts with 4mm, rears 2.5mm-this was done because I got a screw through one of the decent fronts which was too close to the edge to repair and the rears were almost out. I kept the one 4mm tyre in case anyone needs it to make up a set.
I always keep a matching set of 4 tyres on the car and looked at the options. I wanted Contis but cheapest was £380 for 4 fitted (cheapest supplier plus local fitter) so I looked around.
The identical Federals were £230 fitted as above, but they tramline spectacularly and I have read good things about (Chinese) Triangle Talons being ok as budget tyres so have had a punt at them
Cheapest was £168 delivered plus £10 per tyre fully fitted-£208, but that meant waiting for delivery while I had a slow puncture, so negotiated with local dealer who had them in stock and agreed on £220 for 4 fitted:- £55 each, including new valve, balancing with the decent stuck on weights and old tyre case disposal.
They have the rim protector style that I like and an attractive tread pattern and I have felt an instant grip difference, but will hold judgment until I have run them for a few months....
I wonder how well they will wear and what the grip will be like in various conditions? Hmmmm.
Cheap enough, but good value?
I'm dfraid to say i'm a bit of a tyre snob when it comes cheap tyres. I find fault with most top end boots and cant really see tyres in that price range being of use.
of course there is no such thing as an ideal tyre, if there where they would be free,last for ever,stick to the ceiling, track perfectly, be totally silent, and be as good on snow and as they are on tarmac. Never going to happen.
On the Omega, for me, its hard enough to get the car to behave on top range rubber with out adding in cheap tyre varibles. I would rather pay the extra and have decent tyres that wont anoy me too much fot the next year or so.
Having said that though, its always wise to keep an open mind to suggestions. So do let us know how you get on over their life. :y
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Just swapped my four tyres for new and there is an instant difference to the handling and accuracy on the road-the tramlining has reduced massively too.
Removed 4x Federal SS535 225/55/16 V, fronts with 4mm, rears 2.5mm-this was done because I got a screw through one of the decent fronts which was too close to the edge to repair and the rears were almost out. I kept the one 4mm tyre in case anyone needs it to make up a set.
I always keep a matching set of 4 tyres on the car and looked at the options. I wanted Contis but cheapest was £380 for 4 fitted (cheapest supplier plus local fitter) so I looked around.
The identical Federals were £230 fitted as above, but they tramline spectacularly and I have read good things about (Chinese) Triangle Talons being ok as budget tyres so have had a punt at them
Cheapest was £168 delivered plus £10 per tyre fully fitted-£208, but that meant waiting for delivery while I had a slow puncture, so negotiated with local dealer who had them in stock and agreed on £220 for 4 fitted:- £55 each, including new valve, balancing with the decent stuck on weights and old tyre case disposal.
They have the rim protector style that I like and an attractive tread pattern and I have felt an instant grip difference, but will hold judgment until I have run them for a few months....
I wonder how well they will wear and what the grip will be like in various conditions? Hmmmm.
Cheap enough, but good value?
I'm dfraid to say i'm a bit of a tyre snob when it comes cheap tyres. I find fault with most top end boots and cant really see tyres in that price range being of use.
of course there is no such thing as an ideal tyre, if there where they would be free,last for ever,stick to the ceiling, track perfectly, be totally silent, and be as good on snow and as they are on tarmac. Never going to happen.
On the Omega, for me, its hard enough to get the car to behave on top range rubber with out adding in cheap tyre varibles. I would rather pay the extra and have decent tyres that wont anoy me too much fot the next year or so.
Having said that though, its always wise to keep an open mind to suggestions. So do let us know how you get on over their life. :y
Me too, Chris-but needs must and I have already noticed a big improvement.
One car mag commented that a cheap set at 8mm is better than a premium set at 3mm in most conditions-would love to see a test on that..!! Our roads are wet and rural and I usually replace tyres when they hit 3 or 4mm.
These Talons grip like snow tyres as they are still very sharp and the road noise is low, but I will hold judgement until I see how handle in the dry and how well they wear. I know its not important but they look great with decent rim protectors and attractive tread pattern-not like the awful Wanlis or other nasties. See:
http://www.triangletire.com/rad_car_specs_n.html mine are the TR918 type
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/225-55-16-TALON-99V-XL-2255516-225-55-16-4-NEW-TYRES_W0QQitemZ170426860606QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Cars_Tyres_RL?hash=item27ae3b843e
One point that may be relevant, though Chris-I often get punctures due to being on building sites or farmyards-usually screws near the sidewall and replacing a top-end tyre that can't be repaired is galling, a cheapie is more bearable....
I am really curious to see how these compare as I think the rubber is the main priority.....
I will update this or do a new thread as the miles go on :y
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Also note that the ebay price of £167.99 for FOUR tyres includes either postage or fitting at EARMotorsport in Macclesfield-so £42 each fitted (plus new valve and balancing cost).
I wonder if changing tyres frequently at £42 (£47) each fitted is better than soldiering on with worn premium tyres??
I will let you know :y
Now thinking I may try their winter tyres from next October if I can find a very cheap set of additional wheels when the time comes....maybe if the TR918s are ok, the TR777s will be good?
Again, I wonder if using all weather, then winter would be as good as premium?
It's a learning curve for me...
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Just swapped my four tyres for new and there is an instant difference to the handling and accuracy on the road-the tramlining has reduced massively too.
Removed 4x Federal SS535 225/55/16 V, fronts with 4mm, rears 2.5mm-this was done because I got a screw through one of the decent fronts which was too close to the edge to repair and the rears were almost out. I kept the one 4mm tyre in case anyone needs it to make up a set.
I always keep a matching set of 4 tyres on the car and looked at the options. I wanted Contis but cheapest was £380 for 4 fitted (cheapest supplier plus local fitter) so I looked around.
The identical Federals were £230 fitted as above, but they tramline spectacularly and I have read good things about (Chinese) Triangle Talons being ok as budget tyres so have had a punt at them
Cheapest was £168 delivered plus £10 per tyre fully fitted-£208, but that meant waiting for delivery while I had a slow puncture, so negotiated with local dealer who had them in stock and agreed on £220 for 4 fitted:- £55 each, including new valve, balancing with the decent stuck on weights and old tyre case disposal.
They have the rim protector style that I like and an attractive tread pattern and I have felt an instant grip difference, but will hold judgment until I have run them for a few months....
I wonder how well they will wear and what the grip will be like in various conditions? Hmmmm.
Cheap enough, but good value?
I'm dfraid to say i'm a bit of a tyre snob when it comes cheap tyres. I find fault with most top end boots and cant really see tyres in that price range being of use.
of course there is no such thing as an ideal tyre, if there where they would be free,last for ever,stick to the ceiling, track perfectly, be totally silent, and be as good on snow and as they are on tarmac. Never going to happen.
On the Omega, for me, its hard enough to get the car to behave on top range rubber with out adding in cheap tyre varibles. I would rather pay the extra and have decent tyres that wont anoy me too much fot the next year or so.
Having said that though, its always wise to keep an open mind to suggestions. So do let us know how you get on over their life. :y
Me too, Chris-but needs must and I have already noticed a big improvement.
One car mag commented that a cheap set at 8mm is better than a premium set at 3mm in most conditions-would love to see a test on that..!! Our roads are wet and rural and I usually replace tyres when they hit 3 or 4mm.
These Talons grip like snow tyres as they are still very sharp and the road noise is low, but I will hold judgement until I see how handle in the dry and how well they wear. I know its not important but they look great with decent rim protectors and attractive tread pattern-not like the awful Wanlis or other nasties. See:
http://www.triangletire.com/rad_car_specs_n.html mine are the TR918 type
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/225-55-16-TALON-99V-XL-2255516-225-55-16-4-NEW-TYRES_W0QQitemZ170426860606QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Cars_Tyres_RL?hash=item27ae3b843e
One point that may be relevant, though Chris-I often get punctures due to being on building sites or farmyards-usually screws near the sidewall and replacing a top-end tyre that can't be repaired is galling, a cheapie is more bearable....
I am really curious to see how these compare as I think the rubber is the main priority.....
I will update this or do a new thread as the miles go on :y
Always read everyone's comments on tyres with interest and it's great to see so many different opinions. The comment about a cheap set at 8mm being better than a worn premium set got me to throw in my thoughts.
I have run tyres from Michelin, Pirelli, Continental, Bridgestone, Fulda, Yokohama, Toyo, Firestone, a few budget brands and some I have probably forgotten along the way. There was a time when I spent any amount of money to get the best I could find and I've still got an old receipt here for almost £1200 for four tyres. ::) One of these was damaged in a pot hole within 3 months...
It was actually the Omega that made me reconsider my policy for road tyres. The first one I had suffered from the common wear on the inner edges of the front tyres and I ended up throwing away several pairs of premium tyres because no one could resolve the problem despite several suspension alignments, new bushes etc. The second Omega (facelift) I had did not suffer as badly in this respect and a local suspension man ventured that there might have been a geometry change. This seemed credible as the turning circle seemed different between the pre and post facelift. Because of this wear pattern I started to buy cheaper but still "premium" tyres and just run them for a shorter time.
I then cam across an article (may have been road and track) that tested premium tyres against lesser brands that more often than not appeared mimic the more expensive tread patterns. Their conclusion was that newer budget tyres outperformed the premium tyres once they were worn.
I currently run Continental Super contact 2 on the 3.2 and Nexen CP641 on the 2.2. The 3.2 still suffers slightly from the inner edge wear but interestingly the 2.2 exhibits no uneven wear at all. I've never had the alignment adjusted on the 2.2 and I'm almost loath to touch it as it seems to be the best i've had.
I now actually quite like the Nexens as they grip well in the dry and are predictable on the limit and if I'm enjoying the rear wheel drive driftability I'm not thinking about wrecking an expensive set of tyres.
I bought the Continentals off the back of a review that said they were quiet running, which they are and have no complaints.
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Just swapped my four tyres for new and there is an instant difference to the handling and accuracy on the road-the tramlining has reduced massively too.
Removed 4x Federal SS535 225/55/16 V, fronts with 4mm, rears 2.5mm-this was done because I got a screw through one of the decent fronts which was too close to the edge to repair and the rears were almost out. I kept the one 4mm tyre in case anyone needs it to make up a set.
I always keep a matching set of 4 tyres on the car and looked at the options. I wanted Contis but cheapest was £380 for 4 fitted (cheapest supplier plus local fitter) so I looked around.
The identical Federals were £230 fitted as above, but they tramline spectacularly and I have read good things about (Chinese) Triangle Talons being ok as budget tyres so have had a punt at them
Cheapest was £168 delivered plus £10 per tyre fully fitted-£208, but that meant waiting for delivery while I had a slow puncture, so negotiated with local dealer who had them in stock and agreed on £220 for 4 fitted:- £55 each, including new valve, balancing with the decent stuck on weights and old tyre case disposal.
They have the rim protector style that I like and an attractive tread pattern and I have felt an instant grip difference, but will hold judgment until I have run them for a few months....
I wonder how well they will wear and what the grip will be like in various conditions? Hmmmm.
Cheap enough, but good value?
I'm dfraid to say i'm a bit of a tyre snob when it comes cheap tyres. I find fault with most top end boots and cant really see tyres in that price range being of use.
of course there is no such thing as an ideal tyre, if there where they would be free,last for ever,stick to the ceiling, track perfectly, be totally silent, and be as good on snow and as they are on tarmac. Never going to happen.
On the Omega, for me, its hard enough to get the car to behave on top range rubber with out adding in cheap tyre varibles. I would rather pay the extra and have decent tyres that wont anoy me too much fot the next year or so.
Having said that though, its always wise to keep an open mind to suggestions. So do let us know how you get on over their life. :y
Me too, Chris-but needs must and I have already noticed a big improvement.
One car mag commented that a cheap set at 8mm is better than a premium set at 3mm in most conditions-would love to see a test on that..!! Our roads are wet and rural and I usually replace tyres when they hit 3 or 4mm.
These Talons grip like snow tyres as they are still very sharp and the road noise is low, but I will hold judgement until I see how handle in the dry and how well they wear. I know its not important but they look great with decent rim protectors and attractive tread pattern-not like the awful Wanlis or other nasties. See:
http://www.triangletire.com/rad_car_specs_n.html mine are the TR918 type
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/225-55-16-TALON-99V-XL-2255516-225-55-16-4-NEW-TYRES_W0QQitemZ170426860606QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Cars_Tyres_RL?hash=item27ae3b843e
One point that may be relevant, though Chris-I often get punctures due to being on building sites or farmyards-usually screws near the sidewall and replacing a top-end tyre that can't be repaired is galling, a cheapie is more bearable....
I am really curious to see how these compare as I think the rubber is the main priority.....
I will update this or do a new thread as the miles go on :y
definitely..
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Just swapped my four tyres for new and there is an instant difference to the handling and accuracy on the road-the tramlining has reduced massively too.
Removed 4x Federal SS535 225/55/16 V, fronts with 4mm, rears 2.5mm-this was done because I got a screw through one of the decent fronts which was too close to the edge to repair and the rears were almost out. I kept the one 4mm tyre in case anyone needs it to make up a set.
I always keep a matching set of 4 tyres on the car and looked at the options. I wanted Contis but cheapest was £380 for 4 fitted (cheapest supplier plus local fitter) so I looked around.
The identical Federals were £230 fitted as above, but they tramline spectacularly and I have read good things about (Chinese) Triangle Talons being ok as budget tyres so have had a punt at them
Cheapest was £168 delivered plus £10 per tyre fully fitted-£208, but that meant waiting for delivery while I had a slow puncture, so negotiated with local dealer who had them in stock and agreed on £220 for 4 fitted:- £55 each, including new valve, balancing with the decent stuck on weights and old tyre case disposal.
They have the rim protector style that I like and an attractive tread pattern and I have felt an instant grip difference, but will hold judgment until I have run them for a few months....
I wonder how well they will wear and what the grip will be like in various conditions? Hmmmm.
Cheap enough, but good value?
I'm dfraid to say i'm a bit of a tyre snob when it comes cheap tyres. I find fault with most top end boots and cant really see tyres in that price range being of use.
of course there is no such thing as an ideal tyre, if there where they would be free,last for ever,stick to the ceiling, track perfectly, be totally silent, and be as good on snow and as they are on tarmac. Never going to happen.
On the Omega, for me, its hard enough to get the car to behave on top range rubber with out adding in cheap tyre varibles. I would rather pay the extra and have decent tyres that wont anoy me too much fot the next year or so.
Having said that though, its always wise to keep an open mind to suggestions. So do let us know how you get on over their life. :y
Me too, Chris-but needs must and I have already noticed a big improvement.
One car mag commented that a cheap set at 8mm is better than a premium set at 3mm in most conditions-would love to see a test on that..!! Our roads are wet and rural and I usually replace tyres when they hit 3 or 4mm.
These Talons grip like snow tyres as they are still very sharp and the road noise is low, but I will hold judgement until I see how handle in the dry and how well they wear. I know its not important but they look great with decent rim protectors and attractive tread pattern-not like the awful Wanlis or other nasties. See:
http://www.triangletire.com/rad_car_specs_n.html mine are the TR918 type
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/225-55-16-TALON-99V-XL-2255516-225-55-16-4-NEW-TYRES_W0QQitemZ170426860606QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Cars_Tyres_RL?hash=item27ae3b843e
One point that may be relevant, though Chris-I often get punctures due to being on building sites or farmyards-usually screws near the sidewall and replacing a top-end tyre that can't be repaired is galling, a cheapie is more bearable....
I am really curious to see how these compare as I think the rubber is the main priority.....
I will update this or do a new thread as the miles go on :y
definitely..
except falken 912s v worn out Dunlop sport maxx which was still far better grippier and more stable. ime.
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except falken 912s v worn out Dunlop sport maxx which was still far better grippier and more stable. ime.
Agreed. In any case, there's always a compromise with budget tyres, IME.
Poor stability
Poor grip in wet / dry / both
Excessive noise
Excessive wear rate
If you can put up with one or more of the above, then they are fine.
On the other hand, many would say that we presumably spend more money to run Omegas as opposed to a cheap FWD repmobox because they offer better handling, lower noise level, better comfort, etc. so why throw it all away by scrimping on the tyres?
Inner edge wear requires a trip to Tony at wheels in motion. Most alignment centres use ridiculously wide tolerances for the front camber on the Omega. That combined with an operator who adjusts only what's not "in the green" without understanding how suspension works means tyre outfits rarely pick up the reason for inner tyre wear.
Kevin
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Just swapped my four tyres for new and there is an instant difference to the handling and accuracy on the road-the tramlining has reduced massively too.
Removed 4x Federal SS535 225/55/16 V, fronts with 4mm, rears 2.5mm-this was done because I got a screw through one of the decent fronts which was too close to the edge to repair and the rears were almost out. I kept the one 4mm tyre in case anyone needs it to make up a set.
I always keep a matching set of 4 tyres on the car and looked at the options. I wanted Contis but cheapest was £380 for 4 fitted (cheapest supplier plus local fitter) so I looked around.
The identical Federals were £230 fitted as above, but they tramline spectacularly and I have read good things about (Chinese) Triangle Talons being ok as budget tyres so have had a punt at them
Cheapest was £168 delivered plus £10 per tyre fully fitted-£208, but that meant waiting for delivery while I had a slow puncture, so negotiated with local dealer who had them in stock and agreed on £220 for 4 fitted:- £55 each, including new valve, balancing with the decent stuck on weights and old tyre case disposal.
They have the rim protector style that I like and an attractive tread pattern and I have felt an instant grip difference, but will hold judgment until I have run them for a few months....
I wonder how well they will wear and what the grip will be like in various conditions? Hmmmm.
Cheap enough, but good value?
Worth knowing that there are permitted repairs to this sort of damage. Most tyre depots don't do it, but we have a specialist here who does, its saved me twice in the past. :y
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except falken 912s v worn out Dunlop sport maxx which was still far better grippier and more stable. ime.
Agreed. In any case, there's always a compromise with budget tyres, IME.
Poor stability
Poor grip in wet / dry / both
Excessive noise
Excessive wear rate
If you can put up with one or more of the above, then they are fine.
On the other hand, many would say that we presumably spend more money to run Omegas as opposed to a cheap FWD repmobox because they offer better handling, lower noise level, better comfort, etc. so why throw it all away by scrimping on the tyres?
Inner edge wear requires a trip to Tony at wheels in motion. Most alignment centres use ridiculously wide tolerances for the front camber on the Omega. That combined with an operator who adjusts only what's not "in the green" without understanding how suspension works means tyre outfits rarely pick up the reason for inner tyre wear.
Kevin
lower noise level.. with fwd car.. no chance.. :(
This summer I spend a fortune to change the front system of clit and still noisy >:(
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Well, I am expecting my £55ea fitted Chinese (Triangle Talon Sport TR918) tyres to be cack, but so far they are surprisingly ok :y
Somewhere, though, they WILL fall down: wear rate, wet braking, dry cornering-something. Don't know what yet but know cheap tyres are usually CACK.
And these are very cheap-EARMotorsport via ebay do 4 fitted at less than £168 (£42ea) :o
Couldn't afford better tyres....so anything else not an option at present-spent £000s on "the list", still more to do; wishbones, rear springs, bushes......etc ::)
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Just swapped my four tyres for new and there is an instant difference to the handling and accuracy on the road-the tramlining has reduced massively too.
Removed 4x Federal SS535 225/55/16 V, fronts with 4mm, rears 2.5mm-this was done because I got a screw through one of the decent fronts which was too close to the edge to repair and the rears were almost out. I kept the one 4mm tyre in case anyone needs it to make up a set.
I always keep a matching set of 4 tyres on the car and looked at the options. I wanted Contis but cheapest was £380 for 4 fitted (cheapest supplier plus local fitter) so I looked around.
The identical Federals were £230 fitted as above, but they tramline spectacularly and I have read good things about (Chinese) Triangle Talons being ok as budget tyres so have had a punt at them
Cheapest was £168 delivered plus £10 per tyre fully fitted-£208, but that meant waiting for delivery while I had a slow puncture, so negotiated with local dealer who had them in stock and agreed on £220 for 4 fitted:- £55 each, including new valve, balancing with the decent stuck on weights and old tyre case disposal.
They have the rim protector style that I like and an attractive tread pattern and I have felt an instant grip difference, but will hold judgment until I have run them for a few months....
I wonder how well they will wear and what the grip will be like in various conditions? Hmmmm.
Cheap enough, but good value?
Worth knowing that there are permitted repairs to this sort of damage. Most tyre depots don't do it, but we have a specialist here who does, its saved me twice in the past. :y
Worth knowing-may have repaired this and kept the front 4mms and replaced the rears with 2 matching Federals.
Still, was not keen on the Federal SS 535s anyway...
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I always found P6000's very good on the Omega, and wear was good too - up to about 35,000 miles on a set.
The only problem with the Omega is that at 1,800 or so KG it is a very heavy car, and needs tyres to suit. Many tyres suffer a 'flat spot' on the Omega after being parked for a while, so you get a bumpy ride for a mile or two from cold.
Pirelli reccomend J Fit (Jaguar) tyres for the omega for that reason.
NN
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Got to say, so far I'm impressed with these cheapy Triangle Talon Sport TR918s; great in the snow, excellent wet braking, fine on standing water, quiet enough too. Just had wishbones and 4 wheel alignment/camber done and car feels better, but can't comment on tramlining yet.
Will need to do 5,000+ miles (if they last that long!) in differing conditions to get a better idea, but they are much better than I thought they would be, so far :y
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Sounds good so far.
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Have had a busy day 1st got a set of new Kumo,s for the front at £150 for the pair. Early to say much but very happy as the tramlining has al but gone now Much ,much better . Will still have a run to WIM at some point just to have a good check on things .
Will have a few longer runs over the next few day so will report back on grip wet /dry. Also have oill abd fillter change just under 3k done since last one but alot of short cold runs.
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Sorry to sound dumb, but what is this WIM that people are on about? Also, does anyone have a rough price for front wishbones on a 53plate 3.2 elite, as i get dragged all over the place with the camber of the road!
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Sorry to sound dumb, but what is this WIM that people are on about? Also, does anyone have a rough price for front wishbones on a 53plate 3.2 elite, as i get dragged all over the place with the camber of the road!
WIM = Wheels In Motion http://www.blackboots.co.uk/
The place to get Omega suspension set up.
Pattern front wishbones can be had for around £60 a pair. Genuine are silly money. I can't remember where I got mine. http://www.vauxcentre.co.uk/ rings a bell but I might be wrong.
Obviously, change the wishbones, if required, before getting the suspension set up.
Kevin
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Sorry to sound dumb, but what is this WIM that people are on about? Also, does anyone have a rough price for front wishbones on a 53plate 3.2 elite, as i get dragged all over the place with the camber of the road!
WIM = Wheels In Motion http://www.blackboots.co.uk/
The place to get Omega suspension set up.
Pattern front wishbones can be had for around £60 a pair. Genuine are silly money. I can't remember where I got mine. http://www.vauxcentre.co.uk/ rings a bell but I might be wrong.
Obviously, change the wishbones, if required, before getting the suspension set up.
Kevin
My wishbones were £37.95 + £12.00 p+p; £47.95 per pair, delivered next day from this seller. Seem decent quality, easy fit.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Omega-Wishbone-Arms-x-2-LH-RH-All-Models1994-2002_W0QQitemZ370325690458QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item563921985a
I had to had both trackrod assemblies, idler, wishbones, 4 tyres then a 4 wheel laser set up-camber and toe-in both out, better now :y
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Got to say, so far I'm impressed with these cheapy Triangle Talon Sport TR918s; great in the snow, excellent wet braking, fine on standing water, quiet enough too. Just had wishbones and 4 wheel alignment/camber done and car feels better, but can't comment on tramlining yet.
Will need to do 5,000+ miles (if they last that long!) in differing conditions to get a better idea, but they are much better than I thought they would be, so far :y
2500 miles done on these cheap tyres now and so far highly impressed and would recommend them.
The tramlining has gone, road noise is low, stability and cornering have improved massively.
They are a bit skittish on greasy roads, but wet braking is superb.
Overall, very pleased-much better than I expected; so at present I can recommend the Triangle Talon Sport TR918s, especially at £167.99 for 4 fitted (225/55/16). They won't be as good as premiums but if you are a sensible driver they are very good indeed.
They are 100x better than the Federal S535s they replaced.
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Sounds good :y :y
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Sorry to sound dumb, but what is this WIM that people are on about? Also, does anyone have a rough price for front wishbones on a 53plate 3.2 elite, as i get dragged all over the place with the camber of the road!
WIM = Wheels In Motion http://www.blackboots.co.uk/
The place to get Omega suspension set up.
Pattern front wishbones can be had for around £60 a pair. Genuine are silly money. I can't remember where I got mine. http://www.vauxcentre.co.uk/ rings a bell but I might be wrong.
Obviously, change the wishbones, if required, before getting the suspension set up.
Kevin
Do they have any other locations, or does anyone know of a similar quality place either in the West Midlands or South Wales?