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Title: clarkson
Post by: unlucky mark mv6 on 07 March 2010, 17:18:13
Watching top gear at the moment on dave,and the dick head seems to be ripping the piss out of someone who drives a diesel astra.What makes me laugh is,how can anyone who used to drive a ford and even like them,give them the right to run a vx down,i mean,i think i would rather own a proton than a ford. ::),the astra in my opinion is ten times the car than most fords on the road. >:(
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: mudflap on 07 March 2010, 17:22:41
...not to mention the Vectra ;)

Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: unlucky mark mv6 on 07 March 2010, 17:28:48
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...not to mention the Vectra ;)

To be honest mate the prat has never had a good word to say about vx for some reason.They are damn good cars,and anyone i have had has served me well,and all have been high milers,and never let me down.You find a ford that wont give you trouble after 60,000 miles or so. :y
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: Dan1005 on 07 March 2010, 17:57:44
he has said one good word about vx.. it was to do with the monaro, which unfortunately is actually a holden product ;)..

I completely agree with you though,,, someone who prefers a ford over many other vehicles has got something wrong in the brain...
and you know what they say about fords.. ;)
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: Seth on 07 March 2010, 18:10:33
Can't stand the man myself either.
Personally, I reckon that Top Gear went downhill big time when the likes of Tony Mason and Tiff Needell left the show.
Just my view of course! ;)
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: Amigo on 07 March 2010, 18:17:04
I admit he is a tad biased where Vx are concerned but then so am i. As i've said a few times on here i'm not a vx fan, not all omega owners are. VX as any car manufacturer have made some awful cars as well as some cracking ones. I'd drive a mondeo over a vectra any day but i'd drive an astra over an escort although a pug 306 beats either of them hands down.
    I'm not a believer in being a fan of one make as some are always better than others & you can end up with a blinkered view.
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: webby23 on 07 March 2010, 20:08:20
I hate the word VAUXHALL and think the sooner they get in line with the rest of Europe and badge em Opel the better.....

Great great car but cant stand the image of the name

 :y
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: cruisetopoland on 07 March 2010, 20:13:44
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I hate the word VAUXHALL and think the sooner they get in line with the rest of Europe and badge em Opel the better.....

Great great car but cant stand the image of the name

 :y

Absolutely agree.

Vauxhall is outdated and not a contender, whereas Opel has an essence of Germanic cool.

I would not buy a new Vauxhall, but would consider Opel.

It just sounds better and is a more up to date image  :y
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: hoofing it on 07 March 2010, 20:21:23
if I got a choice of a  new ford or a lada i'd choose lada lol ;D ;D
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: SJKOO01 on 07 March 2010, 20:21:29
We are talking about a chap that owns the TopGear production company, and he's had for some time now the attitude of I can do & say anything I want, as I own it and with all the fans, the Beeb will never shut the program down.

All the complaint that the programs received, he hasn't once apologised for offending those, and don't expect him to soon !.

What do you expect from a self-opinionated, arrogant, dickhead, who has no concept of normal.  :-?

Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: webby23 on 07 March 2010, 20:22:51
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We are talking about a chap that owns the TopGear production company, and he's had for some time now the attitude of I can do & say anything I want, as I own it and with all the fans, the Beeb will never shut the program down.

All the complaint that the programs received, he hasn't once apologised for offending those, and don't expect him to soon !.

What do you expect from a self-opinionated, arrogant, dickhead, who has no concept of normal.  :-?



Bit harsh, but everyone has opinions......!!

 :y
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: tunnie on 07 March 2010, 20:25:03
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Watching top gear at the moment on dave,and the dick head seems to be ripping the piss out of someone who drives a diesel astra.What makes me laugh is,how can anyone who used to drive a ford and even like them,give them the right to run a vx down,i mean,i think i would rather own a proton than a ford. ::),the astra in my opinion is ten times the car than most fords on the road. >:(

why are you watching it if you don't like him?  :-/

he does like certain Vx, the Agilia, he liked, VXR8, Monaro....

Tbh i agree with him, don't like Astra's
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: Del Boy on 07 March 2010, 20:34:17
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Watching top gear at the moment on dave,and the dick head seems to be ripping the piss out of someone who drives a diesel astra.What makes me laugh is,how can anyone who used to drive a ford and even like them,give them the right to run a vx down,i mean,i think i would rather own a proton than a ford. ::),the astra in my opinion is ten times the car than most fords on the road. >:(

why are you watching it if you don't like him?  :-/

he does like certain Vx, the Agilia, he liked, VXR8, Monaro....

Tbh i agree with him, don't like Astra's
He also said VX were the only company not to make an ugly car. I like him, he speaks his mind and I like that about people.
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: Andy B on 07 March 2010, 20:37:12
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...... I like him, he speaks his mind and I like that about people.

.... and me!  :y
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: NaughtyNigel on 07 March 2010, 20:39:10
I seem to remember he actually liked the facelift Omega when he tested it around ten years ago.

NN
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: dbug on 07 March 2010, 20:39:17
You don't have to watch Clarkson if you don't like him!!!  There are other channels  :-/
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: SJKOO01 on 07 March 2010, 20:40:48
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We are talking about a chap that owns the TopGear production company, and he's had for some time now the attitude of I can do & say anything I want, as I own it and with all the fans, the Beeb will never shut the program down.

All the complaint that the programs received, he hasn't once apologised for offending those, and don't expect him to soon !.

What do you expect from a self-opinionated, arrogant, dickhead, who has no concept of normal.  :-?



Bit harsh, but everyone has opinions......!!

 :y


Just saying it how I see it chap  ::).

The program is sometimes good, sometimes bad, though seems that Clarkson's attitude has changed ever since there was a split between the T.G. (Beeb) & 5th Gear (Ch5).
And aparently few months ago it was reported that Hammond & May weren't happy themselves with the way Clarkson was becoming demanding, and all wasn't well on the T.G. camp ?!.

Never mind..... ::)
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: Del Boy on 07 March 2010, 20:44:02
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We are talking about a chap that owns the TopGear production company, and he's had for some time now the attitude of I can do & say anything I want, as I own it and with all the fans, the Beeb will never shut the program down.

All the complaint that the programs received, he hasn't once apologised for offending those, and don't expect him to soon !.

What do you expect from a self-opinionated, arrogant, dickhead, who has no concept of normal.  :-?



Bit harsh, but everyone has opinions......!!

 :y


Just saying it how I see it chap  ::).

The program is sometimes good, sometimes bad, though seems that Clarkson's attitude has changed ever since there was a split between the T.G. (Beeb) & 5th Gear (Ch5).
And aparently few months ago it was reported that Hammond & May weren't happy themselves with the way Clarkson was becoming demanding, and all wasn't well on the T.G. camp ?!.

Never mind..... ::)
That was published on the TG website as 'dangle berries'.
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: sexydaz on 07 March 2010, 20:44:15
clarkson for PM
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: SJKOO01 on 07 March 2010, 20:53:21
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We are talking about a chap that owns the TopGear production company, and he's had for some time now the attitude of I can do & say anything I want, as I own it and with all the fans, the Beeb will never shut the program down.

All the complaint that the programs received, he hasn't once apologised for offending those, and don't expect him to soon !.

What do you expect from a self-opinionated, arrogant, dickhead, who has no concept of normal.  :-?



Bit harsh, but everyone has opinions......!!

 :y


Just saying it how I see it chap  ::).

The program is sometimes good, sometimes bad, though seems that Clarkson's attitude has changed ever since there was a split between the T.G. (Beeb) & 5th Gear (Ch5).
And aparently few months ago it was reported that Hammond & May weren't happy themselves with the way Clarkson was becoming demanding, and all wasn't well on the T.G. camp ?!.

Never mind..... ::)
That was published on the TG website as 'dangle berries'.

Wouldn't know as I don't surf their site.  Just know that there's two T.G sites, the Beeb one, and the actual T.G. site.
And doubt that the offical site would admit that there is a problem anyhow, wouldn't be good for the fans to hear.
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: tunnie on 07 March 2010, 21:00:31
he also said when the Omega died, he said it was second best car to sit in the back of, after an S class. He hoped if a car was sent for him was an S class, but if not he wanted an Omega  :y

He is a 'idiot' in some peoples eyes as he says what he thinks, like Simon Cowel. He gets the 'Mr Nasty' going just because he tells a bunch to teens they can't sing and look awful.... when they do, and he is right!

Lets compare Top Gear to the now 5th Gear.... how dull and boooring was 5th gear!? Clarkson brings lot of enthusiasm to his road tests, i remember 5th gear doing a BMW road trip back, and it was bl00dy awful, it looked like BMW paid them, he never said a bad word about it.  >:(
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: Amigo on 07 March 2010, 21:26:25
Clarkson's ok. To the haters have you read any of his books? Not all car based. Try "the world according to Clarkson" Yes it sounds typically self indulgent but it's quotes from his Sunday Telegraph column...yes he did....this is purely his take on life in general & an interesting read giving an insight into the man you won't get watching him dick about on telly so try something new & pick up a book that will give you a balanced perspective before bleating out your ill thought comments. To say you love all vx's & hate all Fords or vice versa is ridiculous. I can't think of one major manufacturer who has only ever made good or bad cars.
     As for the Lada comment i can only think you were hoping for a pat on the back with that little pearl of wisdom...fell flat did'nt it? Let's face it, it was a silly thing to say. ::)
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: jonnycool on 07 March 2010, 21:45:37
I'll be as honest as I can here, I've not liked many Vauxhalls at all up until my Omega, I've always loved classic Fords and always bought escorts and Fiestas for their cheapness.
I've read a couple of books by Clarkson and love him or hate him, you can't ignore him. I think he's brilliant
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: NaughtyNigel on 07 March 2010, 21:56:19
My S-Type was built when Ford owned Jaguar, and it is a superb car - if not as practical as the Omega.

And doesn't Ford still own Aston Martin? Who would say no to one of them?

NN
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: Squealey on 08 March 2010, 00:42:45
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My S-Type was built when Ford owned Jaguar, and it is a superb car - if not as practical as the Omega.

And doesn't Ford still own Aston Martin? Who would say no to one of them?

Isn't Aston owned by Dave Richards' Pro Drive now?

I have followed Clarkson from his days before he was famous, when he was just a hack in Performance Car magazine and I have always thought he was brilliant. I could sit and read his books for hours, and I think the chemistry between them 3 on the programme is fantastic, it justs works.

Compare it to Fifth Gear, you have Tiff, Vicky and Plato who admitidly are petrol heads, then you have the bloke who looks like J L Collins, hes a bit of a petrol head, but then you've got the other two, one is Mr Inappropriate on C4's Balls Of Steel programme and the other is the Geek who seems to deal with second hand motors. They appear to me to have no love for cars at all and are just saying whatever is put in front of them. They even had Tim Lovejoy for a while.......WTF was that all about?????
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: Martin_1962 on 08 March 2010, 08:05:39
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he has said one good word about vx.. it was to do with the monaro, which unfortunately is actually a holden product ;)..

I completely agree with you though,,, someone who prefers a ford over many other vehicles has got something wrong in the brain...
and you know what they say about fords.. ;)


And they liked the Omega - they didn't like all the bland FWD crap GM pushed out years ago
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: mudflap on 08 March 2010, 08:28:08
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I hate the word VAUXHALL and think the sooner they get in line with the rest of Europe and badge em Opel the better.....

Great great car but cant stand the image of the name

 :y

any connection with the following...?

"It is generally accepted that the etymology of Vauxhall is from the name of Falkes de Breauté, the head of King John's mercenaries, who owned a large house in the area which was referred to as Faulke's Hall, later Foxhall, and eventually Vauxhall. The area only became generally known by this name when the Vauxhall Pleasure Gardens opened as a public attraction. Initially most visitors would have approached by river, but crowds of Londoners of all classes came to know the area after the construction of Westminster Bridge in the 1740s."

Vauxhall Bridge...strong, dependable...old  :-/

(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i247/mysticfred/Vauxhall_Bridge_2009.jpg)

Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: TheBoy on 08 March 2010, 09:34:06
i agree with clarkson in some respects - like Amigomv6, I'd rather have a mondeo than a vectra (and I may need a new car ::)), and a Fester over a Corsa.

Astra v Focus.  Hmmm, both lose, wouldn't own either.  In that class, I guess I'll have to tolerate feeding HGs to her (more roomy than both) little Rover.



Now, what to replace the MV6 with (assuming it cant be repaired).........
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: tunnie on 08 March 2010, 10:10:35
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i agree with clarkson in some respects - like Amigomv6, I'd rather have a mondeo than a vectra (and I may need a new car ::)), and a Fester over a Corsa.

Astra v Focus.  Hmmm, both lose, wouldn't own either.  In that class, I guess I'll have to tolerate feeding HGs to her (more roomy than both) little Rover.



Now, what to replace the MV6 with (assuming it cant be repaired).........

Silver F/L 2.6 Manual  ::)
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: Kevin Wood on 08 March 2010, 10:28:40
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Silver F/L 2.6 Manual  ::)

.. And then drop a 3.2 in it. Be rude not to. :y

Kevin
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: TheBoy on 08 March 2010, 10:54:30
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i agree with clarkson in some respects - like Amigomv6, I'd rather have a mondeo than a vectra (and I may need a new car ::)), and a Fester over a Corsa.

Astra v Focus.  Hmmm, both lose, wouldn't own either.  In that class, I guess I'll have to tolerate feeding HGs to her (more roomy than both) little Rover.



Now, what to replace the MV6 with (assuming it cant be repaired).........

Silver F/L 2.6 Manual  ::)
It didn't float my boat. Really can't put my finger on it.  Nothing that a bonnet respray and a bloody good service won't solve, but didn't tickle my fancy  :-/
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: TheBoy on 08 March 2010, 10:55:14
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Silver F/L 2.6 Manual  ::)

.. And then drop a 3.2 in it. Be rude not to. :y

Kevin
Ah, that could have been it ;D
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: tunnie on 08 March 2010, 10:58:22
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i agree with clarkson in some respects - like Amigomv6, I'd rather have a mondeo than a vectra (and I may need a new car ::)), and a Fester over a Corsa.

Astra v Focus.  Hmmm, both lose, wouldn't own either.  In that class, I guess I'll have to tolerate feeding HGs to her (more roomy than both) little Rover.



Now, what to replace the MV6 with (assuming it cant be repaired).........

Silver F/L 2.6 Manual  ::)
It didn't float my boat. Really can't put my finger on it.  Nothing that a bonnet respray and a bloody good service won't solve, but didn't tickle my fancy  :-/

Its tricky one replacing a car had for a long time, no idea what to replace the 2.2 with really. 530d is nice, but with my current millage not sure i can justify 10k on it.

Driven other Omega's always prefer mine
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: TheBoy on 08 March 2010, 11:09:38
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i agree with clarkson in some respects - like Amigomv6, I'd rather have a mondeo than a vectra (and I may need a new car ::)), and a Fester over a Corsa.

Astra v Focus.  Hmmm, both lose, wouldn't own either.  In that class, I guess I'll have to tolerate feeding HGs to her (more roomy than both) little Rover.



Now, what to replace the MV6 with (assuming it cant be repaired).........

Silver F/L 2.6 Manual  ::)
It didn't float my boat. Really can't put my finger on it.  Nothing that a bonnet respray and a bloody good service won't solve, but didn't tickle my fancy  :-/

Its tricky one replacing a car had for a long time, no idea what to replace the 2.2 with really. 530d is nice, but with my current millage not sure i can justify 10k on it.

Driven other Omega's always prefer mine
Omegawise, lacking options, as I dont like facelifts.

Beemers, bought by same people who buy Sony, can't see they are buying over-hyped junk.

Mercs, not really me.

Vectra/Signum - nah.

Mundanos.  Hmmm.


Get mine fixed, that would work :y
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: NaughtyNigel on 08 March 2010, 11:14:29
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530d is nice, but with my current millage not sure i can justify 10k on it.

Driven other Omega's always prefer mine

The 2.7 S-Type Jag is much nicer, and quieter than the 530, and so I am told goes like stink. (Not that I would know of course.)

The S-Type was last built in 2008, and there are quite a few low mileage examples around for about £20,000. But if you are prepard to accept something older, or petrol, you can get a very nice car from about £5,000 upwards.

Both the 2.5 and 3.0 litre V6 petrol engines are fairly economical, (at least as good as the Omega), and all come with the same ZF series 6 speed box as fittted to the 7 Series.

If you really like filling stations there is also the STR, which has the supercharged 4.2 litre V8 engine, and about 400 BHP at the back wheels. There are not too many cabbage crates that would bother an STR at the lights.  ;D

NN
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: tunnie on 08 March 2010, 12:34:09
there are shed tons of S Types about at good prices, but not keen on the dash really  :-/

If i had a Jag, i think it would have to be 2.7d XJ's - But they are a little pricey, and with my millage its a lot of money to spend on something thats going to plumet in value and have put tons of miles on.

Idea behind BMW is they do hold their value well, 130k mile 530'ds of the old shape still command 4-6k price tag.

Omega be lucky to get £600!
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: NaughtyNigel on 08 March 2010, 12:43:55
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there are shed tons of S Types about at good prices, but not keen on the dash really  :-/

If i had a Jag, i think it would have to be 2.7d XJ's - But they are a little pricey, and with my millage its a lot of money to spend on something thats going to plumet in value and have put tons of miles on.

Idea behind BMW is they do hold their value well, 130k mile 530'ds of the old shape still command 4-6k price tag.

Omega be lucky to get £600!

I like the dash mysef, but didn't like the older models as much.

The 2.7 XJ is a good buy, and veeery confortable. To get back on topic, the 2.7D XJ is also remarkably economical, which Clarkson himself will testify!

NN
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: TheBoy on 08 March 2010, 12:46:21
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there are shed tons of S Types about at good prices, but not keen on the dash really  :-/

If i had a Jag, i think it would have to be 2.7d XJ's - But they are a little pricey, and with my millage its a lot of money to spend on something thats going to plumet in value and have put tons of miles on.

Idea behind BMW is they do hold their value well, 130k mile 530'ds of the old shape still command 4-6k price tag.

Omega be lucky to get £600!
Even with that bloody great jousting mark down the side :o

I'll give you £500 cash, need it by the weekend though to give me time to prep it for my trip to Wales ;D
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: tunnie on 08 March 2010, 12:48:40
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there are shed tons of S Types about at good prices, but not keen on the dash really  :-/

If i had a Jag, i think it would have to be 2.7d XJ's - But they are a little pricey, and with my millage its a lot of money to spend on something thats going to plumet in value and have put tons of miles on.

Idea behind BMW is they do hold their value well, 130k mile 530'ds of the old shape still command 4-6k price tag.

Omega be lucky to get £600!
Even with that bloody great jousting mark down the side :o

I'll give you £500 cash, need it by the weekend though to give me time to prep it for my trip to Wales ;D

I can rent you a very nice BMW, be much nicer in this weather than that crappy Krapazaki. No wait, don't think your feet could reach the ground  :P

Sadly i need mine for while, mother T's about on her travels too, father T is off to IOM so his car is gone too  :(
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: TheBoy on 08 March 2010, 12:51:08
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there are shed tons of S Types about at good prices, but not keen on the dash really  :-/

If i had a Jag, i think it would have to be 2.7d XJ's - But they are a little pricey, and with my millage its a lot of money to spend on something thats going to plumet in value and have put tons of miles on.

Idea behind BMW is they do hold their value well, 130k mile 530'ds of the old shape still command 4-6k price tag.

Omega be lucky to get £600!
Even with that bloody great jousting mark down the side :o

I'll give you £500 cash, need it by the weekend though to give me time to prep it for my trip to Wales ;D

I can rent you a very nice BMW, be much nicer in this weather than that crappy Krapazaki. No wait, don't think your feet could reach the ground  :P

Sadly i need mine for while, mother T's about on her travels too, father T is off to IOM so his car is gone too  :(
I think I would rather insert my meat'n'2veg into a minching machine...
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: Kevin Wood on 08 March 2010, 13:28:20
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I'll give you £500 cash, need it by the weekend though to give me time to prep it for my trip to Wales ;D

There's one for the news ticker!

"TheBoy buys a 4 pot!"  :D

Kevin
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: tunnie on 08 March 2010, 13:29:05
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I'll give you £500 cash, need it by the weekend though to give me time to prep it for my trip to Wales ;D

There's one for the news ticker!

"TheBoy buys a 4 pot!"  :D

Kevin

After the amount of stick he has given me, he won't get one principle  ;D
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: TheBoy on 08 March 2010, 15:15:07
Wonder if I borrowed Tunnie's, if he'd notice if I threw in a V6.  Nah, probably not  ::)
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: tunnie on 08 March 2010, 15:56:39
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Wonder if I borrowed Tunnie's, if he'd notice if I threw in a V6.  Nah, probably not  ::)

Not until i change the oil  ;D
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: mudflap on 10 March 2010, 16:51:12
Jeremy loves Vauxhalls/Opels, especially Carltons/Omegas!  :y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4lzuFidfBY

 ::)
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: Tony H on 10 March 2010, 22:16:35
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...not to mention the Vectra ;)

To be honest mate the prat has never had a good word to say about vx for some reason.They are damn good cars,and anyone i have had has served me well,and all have been high milers,and never let me down.You find a ford that wont give you trouble after 60,000 miles or so. :y


He was actually quoted in saying if he had to choose a car to be chauffered in it would be an Omega  :y
Title: Re: clarkson
Post by: doog on 11 March 2010, 18:30:34


 i would like my next car to be long ,rear wheel drive  and not a 4 pot
other than that i dont care