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Title: BMW 1 series DTC and handbrake light
Post by: Del Boy on 12 April 2010, 20:42:11
Bought a 1 series tonight for a customer, it leaves wednesday, only problem is handbrake light and DTC light stays on, any ideas? 56 plate 120d Sport, it's actually a lovely little car and I would keep it. Anyway any ideas I've heard that it could be an ABS ring on the rear wheels which is very common, I've ordered one but anyone know if this will cure it?

Cheers  :y
Title: Re: BMW 1 series DTC and handbrake light
Post by: Del Boy on 12 April 2010, 21:06:48
Seems as though thats the general idea, ABS ring bm owners say it's very common, got one coming tomorrow. Bad really it's only done 42k, drives lovely mind you  :y
Title: Re: BMW 1 series DTC and handbrake light
Post by: TheBoy on 12 April 2010, 21:08:09
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Seems as though thats the general idea, ABS ring bm owners say it's very common, got one coming tomorrow. Bad really it's only done 42k, drives lovely mind you  :y
Its BMW, of course its poor quality!
Title: Re: BMW 1 series DTC and handbrake light
Post by: Del Boy on 12 April 2010, 21:12:02
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Seems as though thats the general idea, ABS ring bm owners say it's very common, got one coming tomorrow. Bad really it's only done 42k, drives lovely mind you  :y
Its BMW, of course its poor quality!
Now now. My 5er is top notch, this is a quality car too but I don't see the premium over an Astra? Lot of badge going on with this, I would have one though and it's flipping quick. With no DTC too it's a hoot :y
Title: Re: BMW 1 series DTC and handbrake light
Post by: Del Boy on 12 April 2010, 21:20:43
I will say though, I saw the SAAB down there, I did feel upset when I see it  :'(
Title: Re: BMW 1 series DTC and handbrake light
Post by: TheBoy on 12 April 2010, 21:21:45
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Seems as though thats the general idea, ABS ring bm owners say it's very common, got one coming tomorrow. Bad really it's only done 42k, drives lovely mind you  :y
Its BMW, of course its poor quality!
Now now. My 5er is top notch, this is a quality car too but I don't see the premium over an Astra? Lot of badge going on with this, I would have one though and it's flipping quick. With no DTC too it's a hoot :y
1 series was actually a Rover, rejigged to be RWD when BMW decided they needed a smaller car in their own line up - thats why its so badly compromised.

'Real' BMWs also have quality issues, have traded on their name for 15 - 20yrs now.  No real issue with that, but they are no better, and in a lot of cases worse, than a Fraud Mundano ;D.
Title: Re: BMW 1 series DTC and handbrake light
Post by: TheBoy on 12 April 2010, 21:22:20
Mind you, anything is better than a Vauxhall Vectra ;D
Title: Re: BMW 1 series DTC and handbrake light
Post by: Del Boy on 12 April 2010, 21:24:17
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Mind you, anything is better than a Vauxhall Vectra ;D
;D ;D ;D I do agree awful handling, but I will say I think a BM 3 series and up is a much more quality product than a Mondeo, the SAAB though great car, lovely in every area but quality was lacking in places.
Title: Re: BMW 1 series DTC and handbrake light
Post by: TheBoy on 12 April 2010, 21:35:22
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Mind you, anything is better than a Vauxhall Vectra ;D
;D ;D ;D I do agree awful handling, but I will say I think a BM 3 series and up is a much more quality product than a Mondeo, the SAAB though great car, lovely in every area but quality was lacking in places.
We shall agree to disagree on the quality aspect.  Bmw try to give the illusion of reliability by putting software on all the ecus that do not alert the driver to the fact there is a detected problem - knowing that the huge majority of BMW owners (that BMW care about) will take it to a dealer along with the vaseline.

Reckon my Mum has the last of the good beemers - a 1992 3.  Then BMW moved away from being a premium car manufacturer to a cheap mass producer (that was one of the 2 primary reasons they bought Rover, to acquire higher volume mass production techniques), only tried to sell at the previous premium price (actually, they did the same with Rover, overpricing them by a country mile)
Title: Re: BMW 1 series DTC and handbrake light
Post by: Del Boy on 12 April 2010, 21:40:45
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Mind you, anything is better than a Vauxhall Vectra ;D
;D ;D ;D I do agree awful handling, but I will say I think a BM 3 series and up is a much more quality product than a Mondeo, the SAAB though great car, lovely in every area but quality was lacking in places.
We shall agree to disagree on the quality aspect.  Bmw try to give the illusion of reliability by putting software on all the ecus that do not alert the driver to the fact there is a detected problem - knowing that the huge majority of BMW owners (that BMW care about) will take it to a dealer along with the vaseline.

Reckon my Mum has the last of the good beemers - a 1992 3.  Then BMW moved away from being a premium car manufacturer to a cheap mass producer (that was one of the 2 primary reasons they bought Rover, to acquire higher volume mass production techniques), only tried to sell at the previous premium price (actually, they did the same with Rover, overpricing them by a country mile)
Agreed  :y I will say they ruined Rover which was a very bad move  >:(
Title: Re: BMW 1 series DTC and handbrake light
Post by: TheBoy on 12 April 2010, 21:44:11
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Mind you, anything is better than a Vauxhall Vectra ;D
;D ;D ;D I do agree awful handling, but I will say I think a BM 3 series and up is a much more quality product than a Mondeo, the SAAB though great car, lovely in every area but quality was lacking in places.
We shall agree to disagree on the quality aspect.  Bmw try to give the illusion of reliability by putting software on all the ecus that do not alert the driver to the fact there is a detected problem - knowing that the huge majority of BMW owners (that BMW care about) will take it to a dealer along with the vaseline.

Reckon my Mum has the last of the good beemers - a 1992 3.  Then BMW moved away from being a premium car manufacturer to a cheap mass producer (that was one of the 2 primary reasons they bought Rover, to acquire higher volume mass production techniques), only tried to sell at the previous premium price (actually, they did the same with Rover, overpricing them by a country mile)
Agreed  :y I will say they ruined Rover which was a very bad move  >:(
It would be boring if we all liked the same stuff - variety is good :y
Title: Re: BMW 1 series DTC and handbrake light
Post by: Del Boy on 12 April 2010, 21:45:17
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Mind you, anything is better than a Vauxhall Vectra ;D
;D ;D ;D I do agree awful handling, but I will say I think a BM 3 series and up is a much more quality product than a Mondeo, the SAAB though great car, lovely in every area but quality was lacking in places.
We shall agree to disagree on the quality aspect.  Bmw try to give the illusion of reliability by putting software on all the ecus that do not alert the driver to the fact there is a detected problem - knowing that the huge majority of BMW owners (that BMW care about) will take it to a dealer along with the vaseline.

Reckon my Mum has the last of the good beemers - a 1992 3.  Then BMW moved away from being a premium car manufacturer to a cheap mass producer (that was one of the 2 primary reasons they bought Rover, to acquire higher volume mass production techniques), only tried to sell at the previous premium price (actually, they did the same with Rover, overpricing them by a country mile)
Agreed  :y I will say they ruined Rover which was a very bad move  >:(
It would be boring if we all liked the same stuff - variety is good :y
Sure is, hows the LPG by the way?
Title: Re: BMW 1 series DTC and handbrake light
Post by: TheBoy on 12 April 2010, 21:47:03
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Mind you, anything is better than a Vauxhall Vectra ;D
;D ;D ;D I do agree awful handling, but I will say I think a BM 3 series and up is a much more quality product than a Mondeo, the SAAB though great car, lovely in every area but quality was lacking in places.
We shall agree to disagree on the quality aspect.  Bmw try to give the illusion of reliability by putting software on all the ecus that do not alert the driver to the fact there is a detected problem - knowing that the huge majority of BMW owners (that BMW care about) will take it to a dealer along with the vaseline.

Reckon my Mum has the last of the good beemers - a 1992 3.  Then BMW moved away from being a premium car manufacturer to a cheap mass producer (that was one of the 2 primary reasons they bought Rover, to acquire higher volume mass production techniques), only tried to sell at the previous premium price (actually, they did the same with Rover, overpricing them by a country mile)
Agreed  :y I will say they ruined Rover which was a very bad move  >:(
It would be boring if we all liked the same stuff - variety is good :y
Sure is, hows the LPG by the way?
Only done a couple of hundred miles, so no idea on costs yet, but runs very well (but not ragged it yet due to ongoing engine noises) :y
Title: Re: BMW 1 series DTC and handbrake light
Post by: Del Boy on 12 April 2010, 22:13:06
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Mind you, anything is better than a Vauxhall Vectra ;D
;D ;D ;D I do agree awful handling, but I will say I think a BM 3 series and up is a much more quality product than a Mondeo, the SAAB though great car, lovely in every area but quality was lacking in places.
We shall agree to disagree on the quality aspect.  Bmw try to give the illusion of reliability by putting software on all the ecus that do not alert the driver to the fact there is a detected problem - knowing that the huge majority of BMW owners (that BMW care about) will take it to a dealer along with the vaseline.

Reckon my Mum has the last of the good beemers - a 1992 3.  Then BMW moved away from being a premium car manufacturer to a cheap mass producer (that was one of the 2 primary reasons they bought Rover, to acquire higher volume mass production techniques), only tried to sell at the previous premium price (actually, they did the same with Rover, overpricing them by a country mile)
Agreed  :y I will say they ruined Rover which was a very bad move  >:(
It would be boring if we all liked the same stuff - variety is good :y
Sure is, hows the LPG by the way?
Only done a couple of hundred miles, so no idea on costs yet, but runs very well (but not ragged it yet due to ongoing engine noises) :y
Good stuff  :y Hope you get the noises sorted!
Title: Re: BMW 1 series DTC and handbrake light
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 12 April 2010, 22:20:35
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Mind you, anything is better than a Vauxhall Vectra ;D
;D ;D ;D I do agree awful handling, but I will say I think a BM 3 series and up is a much more quality product than a Mondeo, the SAAB though great car, lovely in every area but quality was lacking in places.
We shall agree to disagree on the quality aspect.  Bmw try to give the illusion of reliability by putting software on all the ecus that do not alert the driver to the fact there is a detected problem - knowing that the huge majority of BMW owners (that BMW care about) will take it to a dealer along with the vaseline.

Reckon my Mum has the last of the good beemers - a 1992 3.  Then BMW moved away from being a premium car manufacturer to a cheap mass producer (that was one of the 2 primary reasons they bought Rover, to acquire higher volume mass production techniques), only tried to sell at the previous premium price (actually, they did the same with Rover, overpricing them by a country mile)
Agreed  :y I will say they ruined Rover which was a very bad move  >:(
It would be boring if we all liked the same stuff - variety is good :y
Sure is, hows the LPG by the way?
Only done a couple of hundred miles, so no idea on costs yet, but runs very well (but not ragged it yet due to ongoing engine noises) :y

if you rag it , even on LPG your 3.0 silver bullet have the ability to drain your wallet, shockingly fast :-/

some time ago I remember I tried to follow an M3 on highway for an hour at awful speeds which cost me more than half a tank fuel :o
Title: Re: BMW 1 series DTC and handbrake light
Post by: Del Boy on 12 April 2010, 22:39:08
Ok I may have made a mistake with this being the ABS ring, the ABS ring fault does occur sometimes but it would seem that if I'm wrong which is looking very likely then I need to spend over 2k (if taken to BM) or around £500 doing it myself to get this sorted  :'(

http://www.babybmw.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=18023

I really hope I'm lucky with this  :-/

And this : http://www.babybmw.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=14926#
Title: Re: BMW 1 series DTC and handbrake light
Post by: Del Boy on 13 April 2010, 16:50:02
Sorted with new ABS ring and rear pads lucky lucky, ready for it gone tomorrow  :y
Title: Re: BMW 1 series DTC and handbrake light
Post by: TheBoy on 13 April 2010, 21:37:09
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Mind you, anything is better than a Vauxhall Vectra ;D
;D ;D ;D I do agree awful handling, but I will say I think a BM 3 series and up is a much more quality product than a Mondeo, the SAAB though great car, lovely in every area but quality was lacking in places.
We shall agree to disagree on the quality aspect.  Bmw try to give the illusion of reliability by putting software on all the ecus that do not alert the driver to the fact there is a detected problem - knowing that the huge majority of BMW owners (that BMW care about) will take it to a dealer along with the vaseline.

Reckon my Mum has the last of the good beemers - a 1992 3.  Then BMW moved away from being a premium car manufacturer to a cheap mass producer (that was one of the 2 primary reasons they bought Rover, to acquire higher volume mass production techniques), only tried to sell at the previous premium price (actually, they did the same with Rover, overpricing them by a country mile)
Agreed  :y I will say they ruined Rover which was a very bad move  >:(
It would be boring if we all liked the same stuff - variety is good :y
Sure is, hows the LPG by the way?
Only done a couple of hundred miles, so no idea on costs yet, but runs very well (but not ragged it yet due to ongoing engine noises) :y

if you rag it , even on LPG your 3.0 silver bullet have the ability to drain your wallet, shockingly fast :-/

some time ago I remember I tried to follow an M3 on highway for an hour at awful speeds which cost me more than half a tank fuel :o
It will empty my wallet slightly less quickly on LPG ;D
Title: Re: BMW 1 series DTC and handbrake light
Post by: TheBoy on 13 April 2010, 21:37:39
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Sorted with new ABS ring and rear pads lucky lucky, ready for it gone tomorrow  :y
Result :y
Title: Re: BMW 1 series DTC and handbrake light
Post by: Del Boy on 13 April 2010, 21:43:58
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Sorted with new ABS ring and rear pads lucky lucky, ready for it gone tomorrow  :y
Result :y
Thanks  :y Defiantely very lucky with this one, rushed into it knowing I had a buyer ready, could've had a potential 2k issue very lucky in this case! It needs new tyres all round too and they're run flats, but buyer collecting tomorrow said he'll do them (I wouldn't at that expense). Lucky enough though it was cheap and I make a nice healthy profit and he still gets a cheap car.

Whats an X reg miggy GLS worth too? In a nice blue colour I think it's a 2.2, quite clean only had a 2 second look round. 142k and full main dealer history, direct from a Perrys dealership. I was thinking pay about max £400?
Title: Re: BMW 1 series DTC and handbrake light
Post by: Andy B on 13 April 2010, 21:46:15
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Ok I may have made a mistake with this being the ABS ring, the ABS ring fault does occur sometimes but it would seem that if I'm wrong which is looking very likely then I need to spend over 2k (if taken to BM) or around £500 doing it myself to get this sorted  :'(

http://www.babybmw.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=18023

I really hope I'm lucky with this  :-/

And this : http://www.babybmw.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=14926#

It made a very interesting read. Amazing that BMW could deny any mention of a fault. £2000 repair costs reduced to £144 part (+fitting etc) when they decided to do something about it though.
Title: Re: BMW 1 series DTC and handbrake light
Post by: Del Boy on 13 April 2010, 21:48:20
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Ok I may have made a mistake with this being the ABS ring, the ABS ring fault does occur sometimes but it would seem that if I'm wrong which is looking very likely then I need to spend over 2k (if taken to BM) or around £500 doing it myself to get this sorted  :'(

http://www.babybmw.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=18023

I really hope I'm lucky with this  :-/

And this : http://www.babybmw.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=14926#

It made a very interesting read. Amazing that BMW could deny any mention of a fault. £2000 repair costs reduced to £144 part (+fitting etc) when they decided to do something about it though.
100% Dirty robbing ******* in this case  >:(