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Title: Nasty crack in windscreen
Post by: tunnie on 17 April 2010, 13:19:47
Picked this up few weeks ago, parked next to 4x4 think someone dropped something on the screen as there is a mark on the glass were the crack beings.

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Omega/Glass/DSC00715.JPG)

Now its on the passenger side, and it curved back in, but now its gone again slightly and starting to go up the screen.

Can i get away with it? As its out of drivers view would that be an MOT issue? Which is not until September....

If i called Autoglass i know there is nothing they can do, so i guess it would cost my insurance excess?  :'(
Title: Re: Nasty crack in windscreen
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 17 April 2010, 13:27:43
I had exactly the same with my windscreen on the CDX, and I just watched as day by day Tunnie the crack ran up the screen :'( :'(

The only option was to replace using Autoglass, and pay the £60 excess on my insurance. ;) ;)
Title: Re: Nasty crack in windscreen
Post by: tunnie on 17 April 2010, 13:32:51
bugger! Just checked paper work mine is £75.  :(

Got custom little pockets i made stuck to mine as well. What happened when it reached the top of the screen?
Title: Re: Nasty crack in windscreen
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 17 April 2010, 13:35:29
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bugger! Just checked paper work mine is £75.  :(

Got custom little pockets i made stuck to mine as well. What happened when it reached the top of the screen?

I don't know Tunnie, as I couldn't stand watching it grow and replaced before it got there! ;)

I understand a modern windscreen is part of the strength of the body shell, so I personally take no risks with them. :)
Title: Re: Nasty crack in windscreen
Post by: tunnie on 17 April 2010, 13:36:19
well as long as it lasts until after pay day!
Title: Re: Nasty crack in windscreen
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 17 April 2010, 13:43:11
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well as long as it lasts until after pay day!


 ;D ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: Nasty crack in windscreen
Post by: feeutfo on 17 April 2010, 13:45:03
juct change it Tunnie. £75 is the only cost. Could try it on and wangle a heat reflective screen, although they block dash board gps signal.
Title: Re: Nasty crack in windscreen
Post by: dbug on 17 April 2010, 13:47:34
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Picked this up few weeks ago, parked next to 4x4 think someone dropped something on the screen as there is a mark on the glass were the crack beings.

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Omega/Glass/DSC00715.JPG)

Now its on the passenger side, and it curved back in, but now its gone again slightly and starting to go up the screen.

Can i get away with it? As its out of drivers view would that be an MOT issue? Which is not until September....

If i called Autoglass i know there is nothing they can do, so i guess it would cost my insurance excess?  :'(

Yes a crack in a screen is an MOT fail.

Change it - if you go over a pothole the whole screen can go!!
Title: Re: Nasty crack in windscreen
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 17 April 2010, 14:01:30
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juct change it Tunnie. £75 is the only cost. Could try it on and wangle a heat reflective screen, although they block dash board gps signal.

Yes indeed Chris, that's what I did! ;) ;)
Title: Re: Nasty crack in windscreen
Post by: Del Boy on 17 April 2010, 14:05:55
Cracks in the screen are only an MOT faliure if they're in the area where the wipers sweep. Thats is in that area by the looks so, yes, it's an MOT faliure.
Title: Re: Nasty crack in windscreen
Post by: Andy B on 17 April 2010, 14:06:59
I could do with a crack in my screen  ::), it's got 161000 miles of general marks on it, and is difficult to see through in low sun.
Title: Re: Nasty crack in windscreen
Post by: Del Boy on 17 April 2010, 14:10:57
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I could do with a crack in my screen  ::), it's got 161000 miles of general marks on it, and is difficult to see through in low sun.
Park by a building site where there is loads of lorries full of stones etc  :y
Title: Re: Nasty crack in windscreen
Post by: Andy B on 17 April 2010, 14:13:05
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I could do with a crack in my screen  ::), it's got 161000 miles of general marks on it, and is difficult to see through in low sun.
Park by a building site where there is loads of lorries full of stones etc  :y

 ;)  ;) As long as they don't chip my recently painted bonnet too!   :y  :y  :y

I have an auto centre pop somewhere  ::)  ::)
Title: Re: Nasty crack in windscreen
Post by: Del Boy on 17 April 2010, 14:15:13
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I could do with a crack in my screen  ::), it's got 161000 miles of general marks on it, and is difficult to see through in low sun.
Park by a building site where there is loads of lorries full of stones etc  :y

 ;)  ;) As long as they don't chip my recently painted bonnet too!   :y  :y  :y

I have an auto centre pop somewhere  ::)  ::)
Well you could try, as it's illegal for lorries to be unsheeted now with stones/mud in, crack your screen yourself, go round a roundabout with an unsheeted lorry if you see one ring the company then say mud fell out of there and cracked your screen  :y
Title: Re: Nasty crack in windscreen
Post by: Andy B on 17 April 2010, 14:25:22
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I could do with a crack in my screen  ::), it's got 161000 miles of general marks on it, and is difficult to see through in low sun.
Park by a building site where there is loads of lorries full of stones etc  :y

 ;)  ;) As long as they don't chip my recently painted bonnet too!   :y  :y  :y

I have an auto centre pop somewhere  ::)  ::)
Well you could try, as it's illegal for lorries to be unsheeted now with stones/mud in, crack your screen yourself, go round a roundabout with an unsheeted lorry if you see one ring the company then say mud fell out of there and cracked your screen  :y

Crack my own screen!?! :-? I was just saying that I had an auto centre pop  ::)  ::)  ::)  ::)  :y

You don't need unsheet lorries for cracked screens. Years back, my Senator had a small crack at the very bottom of the screen, it was there for a couple of years, almost unoticable. After leaving the car facing the sun one afternoon, it grew the height of the screen, and it was replaced. About a fortnight later, the prat in front of me, put his off side wheels off the tarmac on a fast B road while we were both over taking something, and broke the bloody thing again!  >:(
Title: Re: Nasty crack in windscreen
Post by: feeutfo on 17 April 2010, 15:38:47
M4 road works, 50mph. Large stone about an inch wide, wack of the screen,appeared from nowhere and bounced down the roof and off the boot lid.  >:(
Title: Re: Nasty crack in windscreen
Post by: Shackeng on 17 April 2010, 17:42:35
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I could do with a crack in my screen  ::), it's got 161000 miles of general marks on it, and is difficult to see through in low sun.

Glass firms will happily replace a serviceable screen, as they get paid whatever. But just chip it a bit if you are concerned. :y
Title: Re: Nasty crack in windscreen
Post by: KW on 17 April 2010, 19:27:53
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If i called Autoglass i know there is nothing they can do, so i guess it would cost my insurance excess?  :'(
There is no such thing as "excess" on glass cover.
You will have to fork out of your own pocket if the screen is replaced, but that can be anywhere from £25 (thats our outlay), all the way to £100 depending on who you are insured with.

Any company that tells you that a glass claim is going to affect your no claims obviously isn't as cheap as you first thought.
Title: Re: Nasty crack in windscreen
Post by: Omegatoy on 17 April 2010, 19:35:35
as i used to regularly repair cracks in screens, can tell you that it will just get longer and longer till its either stopped by drilling or it reaches the edge of the screen, good news is it will not smash or star as the screen is laminated, so its only the outer layer of glass that is affected, it will be ok to leave until you want it replaced or can afford it :y but try to have it replaced on a good weather day, to give the adhesive a fair chance of going off without leaks!!
Title: Re: Nasty crack in windscreen
Post by: Omegatoy on 17 April 2010, 19:37:49
forgot to say i bought a screen brand new for the 2.2dti estate (it wasnt insured) and it cost me 100inclusive of vat and fitting(mates rates though) :y
Title: Re: Nasty crack in windscreen
Post by: KW on 17 April 2010, 19:53:33
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as i used to regularly repair cracks in screens, can tell you that it will just get longer and longer till its either stopped by drilling or it reaches the edge of the screen, good news is it will not smash or star as the screen is laminated, so its only the outer layer of glass that is affected, it will be ok to leave until you want it replaced or can afford it :y but try to have it replaced on a good weather day, to give the adhesive a fair chance of going off without leaks!!
2 hours minimum for the "spoof" to go off properly, and that's if it's in excess of 25°C on the day.
Any colder and you really don't want the vehicle to move for at least 12 hours after fitting.

Of course if you are fully comp then the above won't matter, because the onus will be on the chosen glass company to get it right.
Title: Re: Nasty crack in windscreen
Post by: Del Boy on 17 April 2010, 20:14:55
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as i used to regularly repair cracks in screens, can tell you that it will just get longer and longer till its either stopped by drilling or it reaches the edge of the screen, good news is it will not smash or star as the screen is laminated, so its only the outer layer of glass that is affected, it will be ok to leave until you want it replaced or can afford it :y but try to have it replaced on a good weather day, to give the adhesive a fair chance of going off without leaks!!
2 hours minimum for the "spoof" to go off properly, and that's if it's in excess of 25°C on the day.
Any colder and you really don't want the vehicle to move for at least 12 hours after fitting.

Of course if you are fully comp then the above won't matter, because the onus will be on the chosen glass company to get it right.
My old BMW was in at something like 9 in the morning, back with me by 2 and it was in April last year and wasn't 25 degrees. Not saying you're wrong mind you.
Title: Re: Nasty crack in windscreen
Post by: unlucky mark mv6 on 17 April 2010, 21:12:18
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well as long as it lasts until after pay day!
I bet gavin cant insert his special resin on that one. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Nasty crack in windscreen
Post by: tunnie on 17 April 2010, 21:50:40
Cheers all  :y

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There is no such thing as "excess" on glass cover.

Not what my insurance paper work says.... 'Excess amounts towards a claim - Excess Amount for Windscreen Replacement £75'

I'll get it done after next week  :)
Title: Re: Nasty crack in windscreen
Post by: jonathanh on 18 April 2010, 16:51:57
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Cheers all  :y

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There is no such thing as "excess" on glass cover.

Not what my insurance paper work says.... 'Excess amounts towards a claim - Excess Amount for Windscreen Replacement £75'

I'll get it done after next week  :)

just to add a bit of clarity (some may say confusion...).  there is an excess on windscreen claims:  £75 according to Mr Tunnie's policy.   

Replacing the screen counts as a cliam, typically not against the NCD so that is not affected (not is the renewal price) but deeper in the detail, if you want to cancel your policy for example (or possibly modify it) then they may argue that you have claimed and there is no remaining value in the policy.  I know it sounds odd but do read the policy document carefully. 
Title: Re: Nasty crack in windscreen
Post by: dbug on 18 April 2010, 18:49:20
You're always "encouraging" other OOFers to spend their money Tunnie - don't be tight get it replaced!! :y
Title: Re: Nasty crack in windscreen
Post by: Andy B on 18 April 2010, 19:23:22
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You're always "encouraging" other OOFers to spend their money Tunnie - don't be tight get it replaced!! :y

I think he's now part of the real world on a salary ... not on a contract  :y  :y  :y
Title: Re: Nasty crack in windscreen
Post by: TheBoy on 18 April 2010, 20:06:11
He lives with his folks, has no outgoings of any consequence, so the 'wait til pay day' is confusing, tight sod ;D


Tunnie, you will have to pay windscreen excess only. Not your normal excess, nor will it affect NCD
Title: Re: Nasty crack in windscreen
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 18 April 2010, 20:33:28
Yes, do it Tunnie!! ::) ::) ::)

Think of that lovely new, unblemished, tinted, heat reflective screen you can have for just £75; bargain!! 8-) 8-) :D :D :D ;)
Title: Re: Nasty crack in windscreen
Post by: VXL V6 on 18 April 2010, 20:38:00
Whenever I have had a new windscreen fitted (used to be at least a yearly thing in my old job!) I could garuantee i'd get a chip in it the next day!

Title: Re: Nasty crack in windscreen
Post by: feeutfo on 18 April 2010, 21:25:34
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Yes, do it Tunnie!! ::) ::) ::)

Think of that lovely new, unblemished, tinted, heat reflective screen you can have for just £75; bargain!! 8-) 8-) :D :D :D ;)
yes, good chance to get rid of all those scratches from those poxy wind screen wipers you and TB keep using. ;D ;)
Title: Re: Nasty crack in windscreen
Post by: SP_3.2 on 18 April 2010, 21:41:17
Am i right in thinking that the heat reflective one will not give the top dash sun sensor any problems or the facelift sav nat set up
Title: Re: Nasty crack in windscreen
Post by: tunnie on 19 April 2010, 10:38:32
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He lives with his folks, has no outgoings of any consequence, so the 'wait til pay day' is confusing, tight sod ;D


Tunnie, you will have to pay windscreen excess only. Not your normal excess, nor will it affect NCD

Its a valid reason, every month i (well try to) put everything i would pay on mortgage, and other bills into savings, and i don't touch it unless i really have to, so put a good chunk of money away this month, windscreen can wait few more days  :)
Title: Re: Nasty crack in windscreen
Post by: PhilRich on 19 April 2010, 11:16:01
Very sensible  young man :y ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Nasty crack in windscreen
Post by: VXL V6 on 19 April 2010, 13:40:26
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Am i right in thinking that the heat reflective one will not give the top dash sun sensor any problems or the facelift sav nat set up

OE Facelift sat nav will be fine as it uses the roof mounted antenna. However anything that uses an internal antenna directed through the windscreen will have an issue.

I think Tech II can adjust the climate ecu's interpretation of the solar sensor data for cars with heat reflective screens.
Title: Re: Nasty crack in windscreen
Post by: SP_3.2 on 19 April 2010, 15:02:07
Cool thanks Andy  :y....may put that on the list ;) ;). Mine has a crack at the very bottom under the wipers. No big deal but if i do get a new one will go for a heat reflective one as a gift to the car ;D