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Title: BBA -reman
Post by: jonny2112 on 07 May 2010, 15:31:19
Just to let you know, in my saga re ABS ECU repair or replacement, the company above will test the unit for £35 plus vat and carriage, and will then repair for £100 plus vat and carriage (which includes the original test fee). This seems really good, though I don't know if it applies to all units as they requested the details from my ABS pump to ensure they could test it.

I know some of you have already used this service - any problems??

Cheers  :y
Title: Re: BBA -reman
Post by: 2woody on 07 May 2010, 22:06:18
I would say that I've probably had fifty cars brought to me over the years with suspected ABS ECU failure - haven't needed to change one yet. it always turns out to be something else.
Title: Re: BBA -reman
Post by: jonny2112 on 07 May 2010, 23:26:22
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I would say that I've probably had fifty cars brought to me over the years with suspected ABS ECU failure - haven't needed to change one yet. it always turns out to be something else.

 :-/ :(
Title: Re: BBA -reman
Post by: Vamps on 07 May 2010, 23:33:46
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I would say that I've probably had fifty cars brought to me over the years with suspected ABS ECU failure - haven't needed to change one yet. it always turns out to be something else.

What would that something else be??? :y
Title: Re: BBA -reman
Post by: jonny2112 on 08 May 2010, 10:32:24
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I would say that I've probably had fifty cars brought to me over the years with suspected ABS ECU failure - haven't needed to change one yet. it always turns out to be something else.

What would that something else be??? :y


Yes, please advise before I spend the money fixing the 'wrong' problem!!  :-/
Title: Re: BBA -reman
Post by: amba on 08 May 2010, 16:26:57
I used BBA last year and was pleased with their service.
As I live very close to them I took my faulty ABS module in and it was repaired and ready for collection in 48 hours...from memory coat was about £115=00 but didn,t need postage so that would be extra.
Solved issues with faulty speedo/tc lights and power steering ....hasnt been a problem since so would recommend them.
Title: Re: BBA -reman
Post by: jonny2112 on 08 May 2010, 16:52:38
Thanks for that  :y
Title: Re: BBA -reman
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 08 May 2010, 19:54:45
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I would say that I've probably had fifty cars brought to me over the years with suspected ABS ECU failure - haven't needed to change one yet. it always turns out to be something else.

Possibly the case normaly but, the Bosch setup on the Omega has a known weakness on one of the main hybrid circuit supply bond wires.
Title: Re: BBA -reman
Post by: 2woody on 08 May 2010, 22:24:05
usually turns out to be either wheel sensors or relays.

exactly what are the symptoms here ?

the Bosch 5.3 ABS in Omega B is no different to other ABS 5.3 in other vehicles - it has to be the best-selling ABS by some margin. According to my man at Bosh, there are only software differences.

I might have a spare you can try if you need. Is it an EBD car ?
Title: Re: BBA -reman
Post by: jonny2112 on 08 May 2010, 23:02:49
Symptoms are the same as I have read in other posts. ABS and TC lights come on, and speedo stops working. Also partial loss of PAS. These are intermittent, not always on start up, but does happen on every journey at some point. Sometimes it corrects itself, but mostly not. I haven't tried the sensors yet but intend to in the next day or so, just in case! I'll have to find them first though! Sorry, what is EBD?
Title: Re: BBA -reman
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 09 May 2010, 20:42:10
I sent mine to BBA a couple of years ago, and they did a quick turn around and it solved the problem!! :y

The only problem is that it takes the car off the road for a while............
Title: Re: BBA -reman
Post by: Welung666 on 09 May 2010, 20:46:37
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I sent mine to BBA a couple of years ago, and they did a quick turn around and it solved the problem!! :y

The only problem is that it takes the car off the road for a while............

You can still use the car without the ABS/TC ECU, just got no ABS/TC, heavy steering and no speedo.... [sarcasm] Oh wait it doen't have that with a failed ECU so no different [/sarcasm] ;) ;D
Title: Re: BBA -reman
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 09 May 2010, 21:18:46
The presence of an empty space with several disconnected brake pipes suggested to me that it would be off the road............. Was I wrong?? :o :o :o
Title: Re: BBA -reman
Post by: Welung666 on 09 May 2010, 21:24:11
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The presence of an empty space with several disconnected brake pipes suggested to me that it would be off the road............. Was I wrong?? :o :o :o

You're correct if you remove all of it, the ECU can be removed on it's own without taking any brake pipes off :y
Title: Re: BBA -reman
Post by: Kevin Wood on 09 May 2010, 21:26:41
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The presence of an empty space with several disconnected brake pipes suggested to me that it would be off the road............. Was I wrong?? :o :o :o

You only need to remove the ECU (electronics module) from the side of the ABS valve module so the hydraulic system can remain undisturbed.

I have to say, the symptoms are classic ECU failure, which is common on the Omega.

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the Bosch 5.3 ABS in Omega B is no different to other ABS 5.3 in other vehicles - it has to be the best-selling ABS by some margin. According to my man at Bosh, there are only software differences.

Begs the question of what is killing them in the Omega setup, because they are certainly prone to failure in this application. :-/

Kevin
Title: Re: BBA -reman
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 09 May 2010, 21:32:42
Enlightenment is a wonderful thing (sarcasm)  :D :D :D

Anyway, BBA did the trick for me and I'd certainly recommend them :y :y :y

Incidently, that was how I came across OOF as my local garage were clueless about the TC/ABS/Speedo problem, so lots of googling Omega electrical problems later and here I was!!  8-) 8-) 8-)
Title: Re: BBA -reman
Post by: Elite Pete on 09 May 2010, 21:34:47
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Symptoms are the same as I have read in other posts. ABS and TC lights come on, and speedo stops working. Also partial loss of PAS. These are intermittent, not always on start up, but does happen on every journey at some point. Sometimes it corrects itself, but mostly not. I haven't tried the sensors yet but intend to in the next day or so, just in case! I'll have to find them first though! Sorry, what is EBD?
I've just sorted the exact same problem on my Elite. I replaced the ABS ECU with a second hand unit from Loo Knee. I didn't touch any sensors or relays ;)
Title: Re: BBA -reman
Post by: Welung666 on 09 May 2010, 21:38:10
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Enlightenment is a wonderful thing (sarcasm)  :D :D :D

Anyway, BBA did the trick for me and I'd certainly recommend them :y :y :y

Incidently, that was how I came across OOF as my local garage were clueless about the TC/ABS/Speedo problem, so lots of googling Omega electrical problems later and here I was!!  8-) 8-) 8-)

Google has a lot to answer for  :D ;) ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: BBA -reman
Post by: jonny2112 on 09 May 2010, 22:14:41
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Symptoms are the same as I have read in other posts. ABS and TC lights come on, and speedo stops working. Also partial loss of PAS. These are intermittent, not always on start up, but does happen on every journey at some point. Sometimes it corrects itself, but mostly not. I haven't tried the sensors yet but intend to in the next day or so, just in case! I'll have to find them first though! Sorry, what is EBD?
I've just sorted the exact same problem on my Elite. I replaced the ABS ECU with a second hand unit from Loo Knee. I didn't touch any sensors or relays ;)
Did you get an exact match for your own pump, or did it require tech 2 assistance?
Title: Re: BBA -reman
Post by: Elite Pete on 10 May 2010, 12:33:10
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Symptoms are the same as I have read in other posts. ABS and TC lights come on, and speedo stops working. Also partial loss of PAS. These are intermittent, not always on start up, but does happen on every journey at some point. Sometimes it corrects itself, but mostly not. I haven't tried the sensors yet but intend to in the next day or so, just in case! I'll have to find them first though! Sorry, what is EBD?
I've just sorted the exact same problem on my Elite. I replaced the ABS ECU with a second hand unit from Loo Knee. I didn't touch any sensors or relays ;)
Did you get an exact match for your own pump, or did it require tech 2 assistance?
Its going to need Tech 2ing but I was planning on that anyway. I'm lucky that Mr Calibration doesn't live too far away ;)
Title: Re: BBA -reman
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 10 May 2010, 13:12:37
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The presence of an empty space with several disconnected brake pipes suggested to me that it would be off the road............. Was I wrong?? :o :o :o

You only need to remove the ECU (electronics module) from the side of the ABS valve module so the hydraulic system can remain undisturbed.

I have to say, the symptoms are classic ECU failure, which is common on the Omega.

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the Bosch 5.3 ABS in Omega B is no different to other ABS 5.3 in other vehicles - it has to be the best-selling ABS by some margin. According to my man at Bosh, there are only software differences.

Begs the question of what is killing them in the Omega setup, because they are certainly prone to failure in this application. :-/

Kevin


Who knows.....is it a different package I wonder?

Or are they failing in other applications?

Here is a pic of the failure:

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b394/Marks_DTM_Calib/IMG_0249.jpg)

In fact, having just had a very quick look at the BBA Remn site, the Bosch 5.3 suffers the same fault across all apps includng, BMW's, Saabs, Passats the lot