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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: SP_3.2 on 13 May 2010, 21:18:04
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Not sure if it,s real but having some time on my hands ::) ::) and seen some clips of Omega,s runing off the speedo clock right up to 160mhp.
I know that they speedo will be somewhat out but can they run to the max ,as i guess there is no speed limiter on them.
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no limiters afaik, as the max stated speed is under the 165mph 'gentlemans agreement'
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possibly they have a lower geared diff fitted. Exagerates the speedo reading and will max out quicker, i suspect its a job to get a stock auto 3.2 over 135 on any stretch shorter than the entire length of the m4...certainly would take a while anyway, plenty room for lower gearing i guess, if you can bare the extra revs and fuel bills.
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possibly they have a lower geared diff fitted. Exagerates the speedo reading and will max out quicker, i suspect its a job to get a stock auto 3.2 over 135 on any stretch shorter than the entire length of the m4...certainly would take a while anyway, plenty room for lower gearing i guess, if you can bare the extra revs and fuel bills.
diff makes no difference to speedo ;)
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Dunno about the Omega ( :-X ) but had a 24valve Senator upto 164 on a calibrated speedo......
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Dunno about the Omega ( :-X ) but had a 24valve Senator upto 164 on a calibrated speedo......
.... and there were still more than 500 revs to go in fifth! ;D
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Dunno about the Omega ( :-X ) but had a 24valve Senator upto 164 on a calibrated speedo......
.... and there were still more than 500 revs to go in fifth! ;D
Haven't I always said that Senators were superior to Omegas ::) ::) ::)
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Dunno about the Omega ( :-X ) but had a 24valve Senator upto 164 on a calibrated speedo......
.... and there were still more than 500 revs to go in fifth! ;D
Haven't I always said that Senators were superior to Omegas ::) ::) ::)
Different cars, different times..... ;D
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possibly they have a lower geared diff fitted. Exagerates the speedo reading and will max out quicker, i suspect its a job to get a stock auto 3.2 over 135 on any stretch shorter than the entire length of the m4...certainly would take a while anyway, plenty room for lower gearing i guess, if you can bare the extra revs and fuel bills.
diff makes no difference to speedo ;)
Thinking....., ..........., ...............,
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Dunno about the Omega ( :-X ) but had a 24valve Senator upto 164 on a calibrated speedo......
saw something close to that on a 24v carlton gsi a few years ago,we thought that the speedo was over reading
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Dunno about the Omega ( :-X ) but had a 24valve Senator upto 164 on a calibrated speedo......
.... and there were still more than 500 revs to go in fifth! ;D
Haven't I always said that Senators were superior to Omegas ::) ::) ::)
Please dont loose those rose tinted specs, they're quaint ;)
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possibly they have a lower geared diff fitted. Exagerates the speedo reading and will max out quicker, i suspect its a job to get a stock auto 3.2 over 135 on any stretch shorter than the entire length of the m4...certainly would take a while anyway, plenty room for lower gearing i guess, if you can bare the extra revs and fuel bills.
diff makes no difference to speedo ;)
Thinking....., ..........., ...............,
think abs sensors ;) ;) ;) :y
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Having put a std Omega up against a similar mileage Senator, the Omega was quicker, despite a high rpm hesitation and a HG failure doing no favours to cooling......
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Dunno about the Omega ( :-X ) but had a 24valve Senator upto 164 on a calibrated speedo......
.... and there were still more than 500 revs to go in fifth! ;D
Haven't I always said that Senators were superior to Omegas ::) ::) ::)
Please dont loose those rose tinted specs, they're quaint ;)
As soon as I posted my initial reply, I went into 'view thread' mode and, guess what, AndyB was in there replying, soon as you like, just like a salmon louping after an early fly!! ;D ;D ;D
Cheers Andy. Glad to see you are not letting the side down.... ;D :y
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possibly they have a lower geared diff fitted. Exagerates the speedo reading and will max out quicker, i suspect its a job to get a stock auto 3.2 over 135 on any stretch shorter than the entire length of the m4...certainly would take a while anyway, plenty room for lower gearing i guess, if you can bare the extra revs and fuel bills.
diff makes no difference to speedo ;)
Thinking....., ..........., ...............,
Bing! yeas still thinking bike, speedo is taken from gear box sproket shaft area, omega from drive shafts abs sensors,(?) gearing all done with by then. :y
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Dunno about the Omega ( :-X ) but had a 24valve Senator upto 164 on a calibrated speedo......
.... and there were still more than 500 revs to go in fifth! ;D
Haven't I always said that Senators were superior to Omegas ::) ::) ::)
Please dont loose those rose tinted specs, they're quaint ;)
Senators don't rev the same for a given speed either 8-) (shades will have to do, I've put the rose tinted down somewhere ;))
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Having put a std Omega up against a similar mileage Senator, the Omega was quicker, despite a high rpm hesitation and a HG failure doing no favours to cooling......
You were in the Senator? No wonder it was slower! ::) :y
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Having put a std Omega up against a similar mileage Senator, the Omega was quicker, despite a high rpm hesitation and a HG failure doing no favours to cooling......
You were in the Senator? No wonder it was slower! ::) :y
errr, no. I was in the faster car.....
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Dunno about the Omega ( :-X ) but had a 24valve Senator upto 164 on a calibrated speedo......
.... and there were still more than 500 revs to go in fifth! ;D
Haven't I always said that Senators were superior to Omegas ::) ::) ::)
Please dont loose those rose tinted specs, they're quaint ;)
As soon as I posted my initial reply, I went into 'view thread' mode and, guess what, AndyB was in there replying, soon as you like, just like a salmon louping after an early fly!! ;D ;D ;D
Cheers Andy. Glad to see you are not letting the side down.... ;D :y
I do try not to ;D ;D ;D
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Having put a std Omega up against a similar mileage Senator, the Omega was quicker, despite a high rpm hesitation and a HG failure doing no favours to cooling......
You were in the Senator? No wonder it was slower! ::) :y
errr, no. I was in the faster car.....
factory figures were right then. ;)
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Dunno about the Omega ( :-X ) but had a 24valve Senator upto 164 on a calibrated speedo......
over what distance? ish?
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Bing! yeas still thinking bike, speedo is taken from gear box sproket shaft area, omega from drive shafts abs sensors,(?) gearing all done with by then. :y
I'd already given you a clue ;)
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Bing! yeas still thinking bike, speedo is taken from gear box sproket shaft area, omega from drive shafts abs sensors,(?) gearing all done with by then. :y
I'd already given you a clue ;)
your all too quick for me, was writing as you posted.
Page 2 already.
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Dunno about the Omega ( :-X ) but had a 24valve Senator upto 164 on a calibrated speedo......
over what distance? ish?
a few miles.
ish...... ;D
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Dunno about the Omega ( :-X ) but had a 24valve Senator upto 164 on a calibrated speedo......
over what distance? ish?
a few miles.
ish...... ;D
not quite a couple of minutes then. ::)
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Dunno about the Omega ( :-X ) but had a 24valve Senator upto 164 on a calibrated speedo......
over what distance? ish?
a few miles.
ish...... ;D
hmm, maybe i should bo more patient then, revs where still rising, but slowly...or
(Bike mode on.)
i should put me lid on and tuck behind the screen a bit more.
(Bike mode off)
;D :D ;D
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Dunno about the Omega ( :-X ) but had a 24valve Senator upto 164 on a calibrated speedo......
over what distance? ish?
a few miles.
ish...... ;D
not quite a couple of minutes then. ::)
Had its ups and downs but, think M9, Dunblane to Edinburgh, circa 31 miles or so. Better part of that was at diddlydump leptons.....
And the RegNo was H98LFS.....
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Having put a std Omega up against a similar mileage Senator, the Omega was quicker, despite a high rpm hesitation and a HG failure doing no favours to cooling......
You were in the Senator? No wonder it was slower! ::) :y
errr, no. I was in the faster car.....
Sorry to differ with an admin :D but no, that would have been Pete in an MX5.... ;D ;D ;D
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Having put a std Omega up against a similar mileage Senator, the Omega was quicker, despite a high rpm hesitation and a HG failure doing no favours to cooling......
You were in the Senator? No wonder it was slower! ::) :y
errr, no. I was in the faster car.....
Sorry to differ with an admin :D but no, that would have been Pete in an MX5.... ;D ;D ;D
Nope.. Sorry, wrong. Pete never beat me in the recently retimed 3.2, courtesy of RobseyMV6....
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Having put a std Omega up against a similar mileage Senator, the Omega was quicker, despite a high rpm hesitation and a HG failure doing no favours to cooling......
You were in the Senator? No wonder it was slower! ::) :y
errr, no. I was in the faster car.....
Sorry to differ with an admin :D but no, that would have been Pete in an MX5.... ;D ;D ;D
Nope.. Sorry, wrong. Pete never beat me in the recently retimed 3.2, courtesy of RobseyMV6....
No, I agree, but we were talking TB...... ;D ;D ;D
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140 - 145 isn't a problem and can be attained quite rapidly. It's the extra 15 - 20mph which takes the time/distance.
Aerodynamics are the problem. An Omega or Senator are not physically designed to travel at 160mph, even if it is attainable with a downhill gradient.
Not that anyone drives above 70mph on British Roads anyways. :y
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140 - 145 isn't a problem and can be attained quite rapidly. It's the extra 15 - 20mph which takes the time/distance.
Aerodynamics are the problem. An Omega or Senator are not physically designed to travel at 160mph, even if it is attainable with a downhill gradient.
Not that anyone drives above 70mph on British Roads anyways. :y
M9 motorway is pretty flat....
As said, speed attained, 4 serving plod as witnesses, and not just for a few hundred yards....
And, before the great unwashed jump upon the bandwaggon shrieking 'what about the children', this took place circa 1992, long before it was discovered that speed kills, rather than the sudden stop.......
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140 - 145 isn't a problem and can be attained quite rapidly. It's the extra 15 - 20mph which takes the time/distance.
Aerodynamics are the problem. An Omega or Senator are not physically designed to travel at 160mph, even if it is attainable with a downhill gradient.
Not that anyone drives above 70mph on British Roads anyways. :y
M9 motorway is pretty flat....
As said, speed attained, 4 serving plod as witnesses, and not just for a few hundred yards....
And, before the great unwashed jump upon the bandwaggon shrieking 'what about the children', this took place circa 1992, long before it was discovered that speed kills, rather than the sudden stop.......
I recall an episode of Police Camera Action. A plod Senny was chasing a 911. The recorded speed was 166 in the bottom right hand corner of the screen.
Definitely possible.
Some cars are 'quicker' than others straight from the production line..... after a few years of use, some cars are much better than their identical siblings. Just the way it goes.
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possibly they have a lower geared diff fitted. Exagerates the speedo reading and will max out quicker, i suspect its a job to get a stock auto 3.2 over 135 on any stretch shorter than the entire length of the m4...certainly would take a while anyway, plenty room for lower gearing i guess, if you can bare the extra revs and fuel bills.
Really not sure about getting involved in this one, being on an open forum. I resisted as long as I could but very surprised at the above remark (no offence intended). The Road Angel, which reads three miles per hour slower than the dash speedo shows 145mph, on a private road of course. The M40 chalk hills would give you at least 8 mph more but it would be illegal. This is in a standard 2003 3.2 Elite and not just me bigging it up.
This is all hyperthetical of course. We all know its not big and its not clever.
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Someone better in the know correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the 3.0 have a better top end than the 3.2?
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yep. off the production line cars very. different end of the scale, some escort vans of the diesel variety were quicker than others. all set up the same apparently. :-?
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Someone better in the know correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the 3.0 have a better top end than the 3.2?
You are right in the top speed comment, 3.0 manual saloon book speed 151mph compared to 3.2 auto top speed of 149mph. Its a manual auto thing. 3.2 is meant to have slightly more torque, but then I would say that wouldn't I. There is going to be good and bad in both camps.
I feel this could be a long one, with the words "where permitted" cropping up a lot. ;)
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Someone better in the know correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the 3.0 have a better top end than the 3.2?
a certain admin tells me his 3.0 is quicker in all departments, when its not grumpy that is.
Tbh, its not the first time i've heard similar.
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possibly they have a lower geared diff fitted. Exagerates the speedo reading and will max out quicker, i suspect its a job to get a stock auto 3.2 over 135 on any stretch shorter than the entire length of the m4...certainly would take a while anyway, plenty room for lower gearing i guess, if you can bare the extra revs and fuel bills.
you could "in theory ;)" get a 3.2 omega well over 135 and it wouldnt take miles of road either. wether health and safety is breeched is another question!
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140 - 145 isn't a problem and can be attained quite rapidly. It's the extra 15 - 20mph which takes the time/distance.
Aerodynamics are the problem. An Omega or Senator are not physically designed to travel at 160mph, even if it is attainable with a downhill gradient.
Not that anyone drives above 70mph on British Roads anyways. :y
I had my Elite to 140mph uphill one night, only backed off for a bend. Plus it was pi55ing it down. Still had plenty to go. Same stretch of road the GLS has hit 120 mph in 3rd. and in the rain.
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140 - 145 isn't a problem and can be attained quite rapidly. It's the extra 15 - 20mph which takes the time/distance.
Aerodynamics are the problem. An Omega or Senator are not physically designed to travel at 160mph, even if it is attainable with a downhill gradient.
Not that anyone drives above 70mph on British Roads anyways. :y
I had my Elite to 140mph uphill one night, only backed off for a bend. Plus it was pi55ing it down. Still had plenty to go. Same stretch of road the GLS has hit 120 mph in 3rd. and in the rain.
and then you woke up. (just covering you back) ::)
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140 - 145 isn't a problem and can be attained quite rapidly. It's the extra 15 - 20mph which takes the time/distance.
Aerodynamics are the problem. An Omega or Senator are not physically designed to travel at 160mph, even if it is attainable with a downhill gradient.
Not that anyone drives above 70mph on British Roads anyways. :y
I had my Elite to 140mph uphill one night, only backed off for a bend. Plus it was pi55ing it down. Still had plenty to go. Same stretch of road the GLS has hit 120 mph in 3rd. and in the rain.
and then you woke up. (just covering you back) ::)
Well that was the indicated speed at least, the stretch of road was only 300ft, just measured it on google earth. The wheelspin sounded well between the 2 walls though, was like going through a tunnel. ::)
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140 - 145 isn't a problem and can be attained quite rapidly. It's the extra 15 - 20mph which takes the time/distance.
Aerodynamics are the problem. An Omega or Senator are not physically designed to travel at 160mph, even if it is attainable with a downhill gradient.
Not that anyone drives above 70mph on British Roads anyways. :y
Ironically, the good aerodynamics of the Omega were what prompted Ole Ringstad to create his RATS 200+mph Omega.
In his interview in Evo mag he said,
"Not many people realise the Omega has a very low drag co-efficient [0.28Cd], making it ideal for big speeds while remaining comfortable. And for me it isn’t a car if you have to trailer it, so I’ve driven it here and I’ll drive it home again.’
Good old boy. :y
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Ive seen 150 in my 3.0 auto estate on a private road
and 149 in her 3.0 manual estate on the same private road.
I would say both had a little more to give, but would have taken time and space I didnt have.
I dont think any retail model is going to get you off the speedo though.
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Ive seen 150 in my 3.0 auto estate on a private road
and 149 in her 3.0 manual estate on the same private road.
I would say both had a little more to give, but would have taken time and space I didnt have.
I dont think any retail model is going to get you off the speedo though.
I didn't know the A55 was private ::) ;D ;D
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Ive seen 150 in my 3.0 auto estate on a private road
and 149 in her 3.0 manual estate on the same private road.
I would say both had a little more to give, but would have taken time and space I didnt have.
I dont think any retail model is going to get you off the speedo though.
I didn't know the A55 was private ::) ;D ;D
think bigger :y
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no limiters afaik, as the max stated speed is under the 165mph 'gentlemans agreement'
Gentlemans agreement is 155 mph. not 165.
I used to own a ex nottingham plod senator with calibrated speedo and on a strech of autoban near bonn i saw 155 mph on it.Would add that it was still in plod spec so slightly lighter than retail and with a manual box. I have also owned an ex nottingham plod unmarked omega 3.0 manual although quicker to pull off in than the senator once on the move they felt as quick as each other straight sixes are better for top end as apposed to v sixes
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Of course you could just plug in a Tech II or Opelscanner and set the speedo to read any speed you like (including off the scale) for a photo. ;)
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Dunno about the Omega ( :-X ) but had a 24valve Senator upto 164 on a calibrated speedo......
Ah, those lovely 'job' Senny's Ht 8-) 8-) 8-) ;)
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My 3.0 MV6 manual was tested to around 140 before on a calibarated speedo, there was loads left too.
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On the issue of police senny's, I was once following my father in my car, in the outside lane overtaking everything on the M6, when I noticed in the rear mirror a police car with everything on coming up very fast.
I moved over quickly, but to my amazement my father just sat there whilst this senny, lit up like a Christmas tree, with two's, drove up towards his rear. Eventually dad moved over, and I can only imagine what the officers said of my middle aged dad! ::) ::) ::) I'd have given him a ticket, but we certainly ribbed him over it for some time afterwards!
............and yes that senny was doing well over 150 mph (I know what we were doing!!) 8-) 8-) 8-) :D ;)