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Title: 9,000 Mile Omega with pictures now.
Post by: Del Boy on 31 May 2010, 13:04:40
It's a bloody stunner really is, even with the not brilliant quality pictures  :y

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2002-02-VAUXHALL-OMEGA-3-2-V6-ELITE-AUTO-9K-MILES-FSH-/140409478250?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item20b10e9c6a
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Post by: tunnie on 31 May 2010, 13:07:48
i don't belive 9k miles, my father T's interior has less wear on the seats for 105k!
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Post by: Del Boy on 31 May 2010, 13:13:57
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i don't belive 9k miles, my father T's interior has less wear on the seats for 105k!

They hardly look worn at all, only slight crease marks. I do believe it to be honest.
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Post by: tunnie on 31 May 2010, 13:16:19
something is not right, there is no spoiler on the boot, the back seat leather looks odd, wrong colour in the middle, its fishy....
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Post by: Del Boy on 31 May 2010, 13:19:46
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something is not right, there is no spoiler on the boot, the back seat leather looks odd, wrong colour in the middle, its fishy....

I've had that before caused by dodgy camera flash, crap pictures he has done to be honest. No spoiler didn't notice that to start off with. I really want to ring Vauxhall and see if the service history is true.
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Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 31 May 2010, 13:26:39
It does look great, but that mileage would also bother me as others have said.

Look at the "10,000" 'O' which is out of line, when I think that should be level at a mileage reading of 9,500.  Could be wrong, but as you say Del I would want proof of that mileage.

Would I pay the money if I had the cash?  If I had more money than I knew what to do with, maybe.  Otherwise, No! ::) ::) ;) ;)
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Post by: tunnie on 31 May 2010, 13:29:40
they have also removed the mats, why do that on something with such low miles? They would have been a sign of its true millage.....
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Post by: RobG on 31 May 2010, 13:33:12
Just asked if he`s got documentation for cambelt changes. 8 years old so it`s now due it`s second belt change
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Post by: I_want_an_Omega on 31 May 2010, 13:37:28
Only real way would be to get the MOT ref number and check on the DoT website. That would show the MOT mileage going back about 4 years or so.
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Post by: bertiecbx550 on 31 May 2010, 17:20:44
That car and reg seem familiar to me.....I just cant place where i`ve seen it in wolvo.... :-/ :-/
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Post by: miggy on 31 May 2010, 18:27:20
Hmmmmmmmmm, leather looks too worn for only 9k, something not fitting with this IMHO
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Post by: Kevin Wood on 31 May 2010, 19:23:43
I wouldn't regard a car that has consistently done 1k a year as being any better than one that's done 10k a year, TBH. Sounds like it's trundled to church every Sunday and probably isn't in great mechanical condition as a result.

I may be wrong, of course..

Kevin
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Post by: Del Boy on 31 May 2010, 19:26:09
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I wouldn't regard a car that has consistently done 1k a year as being any better than one that's done 10k a year, TBH. Sounds like it's trundled to church every Sunday and probably isn't in great mechanical condition as a result.

I may be wrong, of course..

Kevin
Neither would I, I'd 100% buy a higher miler if it'd been up and down the motorway rather than a low mileage town car.
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Post by: webby23 on 31 May 2010, 19:39:53
I would sooner buy an identical age-model car with average mileage at the going rate (1500-1700) and keep the £4000 change in my pocket for anything that may (but probably wouldnt) crop up

£4k will sort ALOT of problems out.........!!!

 :y :y :y :y
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Post by: holtender on 31 May 2010, 21:24:27
It looks superb, but the uneven speedo looks like a  sure sign someone has been messing as Lizzie already said, but if it has a proper service record it might just be genuine.
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Post by: El33t on 01 June 2010, 08:05:43
I find it hard to believe an 8 year old Omega with the thirstiest engine will fetch over £5k in this climate.

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Post by: tunnie on 01 June 2010, 09:27:59
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I find it hard to believe an 8 year old Omega with the thirstiest engine will fetch over £5k in this climate.


Some have sold for 7k  :)
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Post by: Mr Skrunts on 01 June 2010, 12:32:48
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I find it hard to believe an 8 year old Omega with the thirstiest engine will fetch over £5k in this climate.


If the car is the genuine mileage (which does look odd on the 2nd 0) then I would probably go look at it, full service history is probably not much much more than an oil an filter change every year.  I would gues even though serviced by a dealer the brake fluid hasnt been changed as per schedule.

But if it is a genuine 9k mileage then I dought anything at all will ever have been replace, this may well include the exhaust, and at 9k all 5 tyres should still be the originals.  Be interesting if the cam belt was actually changed at 4 yesrs, and id genuine miles and dealer serviced it should have had it's 2nd cam belt kit on by now.

[edit]JUST CHECKED SERVICE HISTORY, NEXT SERVICE WOULD BE DUE THE TIMING KIT.  oops[/edit]
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Post by: Sixstring on 01 June 2010, 12:38:05
Summat not quite right here, methinks.
but even if it is completely kosher, its a lot of money.......!
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Post by: Mr Skrunts on 01 June 2010, 12:40:09
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Summat not quite right here, methinks.
but even if it is completely kosher, its a lot of money.......!

But you have to consider this.

if it was your car, and it was one owner from new and used once a year to go on the anual holiday, then how much would you put it in the paper for?
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Post by: Sixstring on 01 June 2010, 12:42:17
Waste of a good car then, that old and so little used. take your point though, Steve.
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Post by: amba on 01 June 2010, 12:50:23
I have also looked at that car advert carefully and agree..it doesn,t look right...speedo numbers are not correctly positioned and seat wear seems inconsistent.
Expect lots of bits are due a change just from little or no use.
If it had 60-70k mileage it would be a better bet me think..you don,t buy a car like that a not use it more than 1k a year.
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Post by: Andy B on 01 June 2010, 12:54:00
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I have also looked at that car advert carefully and agree..it doesn,t look right...speedo numbers are not correctly positioned and seat wear seems inconsistent.
Expect lots of bits are due a change just from little or no use.
If it had 60-70k mileage it would be a better bet me think..you don,t buy a car like that a not use it more than 1k a year.

The numbers might very well line up better once it's rolled over to 10 000 miles.
As for not using a 'car like that'  and rarely use it, it depends how much you're worth & how much you need to travel. SWMBO used her car for 3000 miles a year .... it'll be less than that now. Everybody has different needs & uses of a car.  :y
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Post by: amba on 01 June 2010, 13:00:56
Fair comment AndyB,but it would be costing you more in road tax over the 9 years than you had spent in fuel...I expect a mileag of 3-5k a year in a small car is not unrealistic as we have an 11 year old Ka for my daughter and that has 46k so similar equation..agree its requirements,just would prefer it to have been properly run in.
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Post by: Mr Skrunts on 01 June 2010, 13:01:18
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I have also looked at that car advert carefully and agree..it doesn,t look right...speedo numbers are not correctly positioned and seat wear seems inconsistent.
Expect lots of bits are due a change just from little or no use.
If it had 60-70k mileage it would be a better bet me think..you don,t buy a car like that a not use it more than 1k a year.


Depends on your personal circumstances.

When I bought my 1st house I had to pay a minimal ground rent twice a year, the guy who built the houses was adopted by a wealthy couple and as his "Mum" had survived his "Dad" he bought a new rolls royce, it did one trip a year just to take his Mum on a day trip to scarbourgh, the rest of the time he used a 3 year old Rover 820, and yes, he was a millionaire.
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Post by: RobG on 01 June 2010, 13:30:49
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Just asked if he`s got documentation for cambelt changes. 8 years old so it`s now due it`s second belt change
Replied that it had belt done @ the 7K service but he won`t release the MOT ID number ::)
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Post by: Danny on 01 June 2010, 16:08:58
for the same reasons i'm also not convinced, that 10,000 "0" is way out of line, and the driver's seat suggests the owner probably slept in it most evenings

swmbo's getting a 9 year old ford puma tonight with 32,000 miles on it, and that looks less lived in
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Post by: El33t on 01 June 2010, 21:25:29
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I find it hard to believe an 8 year old Omega with the thirstiest engine will fetch over £5k in this climate.


Some have sold for 7k  :)

Which is daft!

My dad got an '05 Signum 3.0CDTi when it was just under 4 years old for £5,500. It had about 40k on the clock, was absolutely immaculate, and has every toy.

It's a much safer buy, in my opinion, than an 8 year old car with 9,000 miles.
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Post by: derry lad on 01 June 2010, 21:52:43
couldn be genuine,and omegas are notoriously easy to clock! ::)
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Post by: Del Boy on 01 June 2010, 21:56:16
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couldn be genuine,and omegas are notoriously easy to clock! ::)

They defiantely are, as are most vehicles though but you'd be stupid to do it these days. 
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Post by: Mr Skrunts on 01 June 2010, 22:09:57
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couldn be genuine,and omegas are notoriously easy to clock! ::)

They defiantely are, as are most vehicles though but you'd be stupid to do it these days. 

My Speedo has gained 0 miles in the last 12 months.






It's SORNed.   ;D ;D ::)
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Post by: Andy B on 01 June 2010, 22:52:01
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couldn be genuine,and omegas are notoriously easy to clock! ::)

They defiantely are, as are most vehicles though but you'd be stupid to do it these days. 

My Speedo has gained 0 miles in the last 12 months.






It's SORNed.   ;D ;D ::)

the speedo on my Astra stayed the same for a year before I bought it, the gearbox part of the sender was fubar'd  :-?  ;)
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Post by: joshwyatt on 01 June 2010, 23:05:40
It's like the ABS ECU fuse, if that's removed you won't gain any miles, but then again you won't have ABS. Someone decided when I bought Y189 HKE they'd remove the fuse to bring up the ABS and TC lights in the hope it'd go cheap. I'm amazed by how many things happen at auction, someone removed all the towing eye covers on some Astra's. Then you've got others who remove the oil filler cap and only half tighten it in the hope it'll spray some oil under the bonnet.

I'd say if anyone is interested in this Omega, go and have a look...if you actually turned up I bet the guy would have no problem giving you the MOT history number. I wouldn't give one out to someone who emailed me. If someone turned up I'd happily give it to them.
But clocking is still a big issue in the motor trade...I know people that do it, some by a few k miles...others a good 70k miles or more, but either ways it's totally unacceptable.
Even some big garages have done it.
A 2004 Jag XJ8 owned by the Met police came through acution, it had 65k miles on the clock, but on the auction catalogue, and on the windscreen and service history it stated it had a new speedo fitted at 20k miles, so it's real mileage was 85k and a bit.
But the big garage who bought it ommited this, I saw their advert and phoned them pretending to be interested. And they assured me it had FSH and gen mileage of 65k miles. I then phoned The Met Police, they turned up at the garage and seized the vehicle. They got it back listed it witht e gen mileage, but for a cheaper price. Some of their other vehicles had issues with them.
I have no time for people like that, it makes me angry. If you can't make an honest living selling cars, you're not welcome. Some people are just out to make money from anyone, anyway possible...and it's not on.
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Post by: Peachy on 01 June 2010, 23:18:16
Nice Words Mr Wyatt.
I know of a guy local to me who does clocking EVERY day for a living, Charges £70. Takes him seconds, and is always busy, I reckon he may be an informer, cos he never been caught, but there you are, the way of life these days.
I was happy for my boy to buy this Passat with 144k on it, drives like a good un, and  well, just drives like a good un is all I am goona say.
Again, nice words Mr Wyatt. :y :y :y
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Post by: Andy B on 01 June 2010, 23:25:02
I can only say for a lcd odometer in an Astra G, but it's dead easy to 'correct' milage using a cheapo Tech II & a laptop. I 'lost' a mile of SWMBO's Astra just to see if I could ..... & I could. Jimbob reckoned the 'correction' was logged in the ECU though, but who would have the facilities to check before they bought a car?
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Post by: Peachy on 01 June 2010, 23:27:32
I am told the correction is logged, and if there was a nasty accident, surely the insurance and police would check for obvious reasons.
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Post by: Andy B on 01 June 2010, 23:31:46
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I am told the correction is logged, and if there was a nasty accident, surely the insurance and police would check for obvious reasons.

How nasty is nasty? If you mean enough to write a car off, then it seems that nobody checked SWMBO's Astra then, it was written off last September.  ;)
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Post by: Peachy on 01 June 2010, 23:34:54
1 Mile, I doubt that would be of no concern, but as Mr Wyatt states, 70k is taking the piss.
I have seen the guy in my street doing it, and there are at least 8 coppers living in this street. Makes me wonder.....Hmmmmm
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Post by: Andy B on 01 June 2010, 23:41:48
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1 Mile, I doubt that would be of no concern,  .....

Like I said, I was just playing.  ;D  ;D  ;D
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Post by: djac on 02 June 2010, 13:09:55
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It does look great, but that mileage would also bother me as others have said.

Look at the "10,000" 'O' which is out of line, when I think that should be level at a mileage reading of 9,500.  Could be wrong, but as you say Del I would want proof of that mileage.

Would I pay the money if I had the cash?  If I had more money than I knew what to do with, maybe.  Otherwise, No! ::) ::) ;) ;)

Quite. If it has been clocked it is a very clumsy attempt.

Very careful check of the documentation, as others have already said.
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Post by: belldarr on 02 June 2010, 20:11:01
I wonder what the additional ariel is for (between the sunroof and top of the front screen).

Also Red LED on top of the steering column - possibly aftermarket alarm?

No rear spoiler too - could it be an ex police/public sector vehicle?

Darren
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Post by: markspark on 02 June 2010, 20:40:04
i really can't see this guy clocking a car that much it would draw to much attention to its self and if he had im sure he would make sure the digits where in line, and not left in a mess like they are. Personally i don't think its worth that type of money as soon as it starts to be used regularly all the rubber bushes will give up and need replcement. There will be no end to the problems you will have extra low milage is far worse than high milage imho
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Post by: joshwyatt on 02 June 2010, 20:43:42
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I wonder what the additional ariel is for (between the sunroof and top of the front screen).

Also Red LED on top of the steering column - possibly aftermarket alarm?

No rear spoiler too - could it be an ex police/public sector vehicle?

Darren

Good spot, I hadn't noticed that. All but one of the ex police Omega's I've had have that red LED.
I've never really known what it was, at a guess I'd assume it was part of the runlock system.
I wonder if it had been a government chaffeur car? Or vehicle used by ACPO or other body.
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Post by: markspark on 03 June 2010, 00:57:42
its now showing as sold