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Title: Can any one help with a MG ZR 1.4
Post by: rikki_essex on 20 June 2010, 21:16:10
My other halfs brother turned up and he said the eml was flashing and its not running right. He said he has a water leak some where and it had got worse today. We took the spark plug out and the was alot of oil/water down the plug wells we then spotted that the water was coming from around the passanger side inlet manifold. Can any one shed any light weather its just the inlet manifold gasket or would it of done any more. If i havnt give enough info i will post back as much as i can about it. All help is appreciated  :y
Title: Re: Can any one help with a MG ZR 1.4
Post by: hoofing it on 20 June 2010, 21:17:46
petrol and matches :D :D :D :y
Title: Re: Can any one help with a MG ZR 1.4
Post by: webby23 on 20 June 2010, 21:17:54
Could it be head gasket?

Known fault on em

 :y
Title: Re: Can any one help with a MG ZR 1.4
Post by: Elite Pete on 20 June 2010, 21:18:07
The K series in the Rover/MGs are notorious for head gasket problem :(
Title: Re: Can any one help with a MG ZR 1.4
Post by: tunnie on 20 June 2010, 21:20:48
if its done more than 7.5 miles its gunna be head gasket  ::)

Thought it was 1.6 or 2.0 in MG ZR's?
Title: Re: Can any one help with a MG ZR 1.4
Post by: Elite Pete on 20 June 2010, 21:23:04
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if its done more than 7.5 miles its gunna be head gasket  ::)

Thought it was 1.6 or 2.0 in MG ZR's?
1.4, 1.8 and 2.0 diesel ;)
Title: Re: Can any one help with a MG ZR 1.4
Post by: rikki_essex on 20 June 2010, 21:24:16
its done 90k so i did think about head gasket.
Title: Re: Can any one help with a MG ZR 1.4
Post by: rikki_essex on 20 June 2010, 21:25:04
is the head gasket a big job on theses?
Title: Re: Can any one help with a MG ZR 1.4
Post by: webby23 on 20 June 2010, 21:26:20
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its done 90k so i did think about head gasket.

We had a w plate 75 1.8 that had it done just before we bought it and the owner showed me the receipt for £430 from his local garage, so its not the end of the world

AA part and labour policy would have kicked in here if you had/have taken it out

 :y
Title: Re: Can any one help with a MG ZR 1.4
Post by: tunnie on 20 June 2010, 21:28:06
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its done 90k so i did think about head gasket.

Its probably on its 3rd HG  ::)

Might be worth PM to James, he's dab hand on these  :y
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Post by: markspark on 20 June 2010, 21:31:44
Donate it to The Boy he will sort it once and for all  ;D
Title: Re: Can any one help with a MG ZR 1.4
Post by: Vamps on 20 June 2010, 22:15:43
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if its done more than 7.5 miles its gunna be head gasket  ::)

Thought it was 1.6 or 2.0 in MG ZR's?
1.4, 1.8 and 2.0 diesel ;)

Does the 1.8 have the same head gasket problem? 4cyl engine, can't be that hard to replace is it?

Title: Re: Can any one help with a MG ZR 1.4
Post by: webby23 on 20 June 2010, 22:19:35
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if its done more than 7.5 miles its gunna be head gasket  ::)

Thought it was 1.6 or 2.0 in MG ZR's?
1.4, 1.8 and 2.0 diesel ;)

Does the 1.8 have the same head gasket problem? 4cyl engine, can't be that hard to replace is it?


Yep, our 75 was a 1.8 K Series

 :y
Title: Re: Can any one help with a MG ZR 1.4
Post by: Dodger on 20 June 2010, 22:20:11
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The K series in the Rover/MGs are notorious for head gasket problem :(

Ahhh.

The infamous 'K'rap series  engines. Tell me about them!!

100 to 1 it's a head gasket.  Ditched a 'rover' for my omega.  (never known such luxury... 3 years, and n'er a problem!! ) As for Rover, ne'r a day when there wasn't!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Can any one help with a MG ZR 1.4
Post by: unlucky alf on 20 June 2010, 23:00:20
Never buy a car thats named after a dog cos itll bite you hard, :D .
Title: Re: Can any one help with a MG ZR 1.4
Post by: Elite Pete on 21 June 2010, 00:09:24
I've got a Rover 25 as well as an Omega. I've had the Rover for 4 years and it hasn't caused an ounce of trouble because I maintain it well ;)
Title: Re: Can any one help with a MG ZR 1.4
Post by: Vamps on 21 June 2010, 00:11:13
Well I have had, P6, SD1 and 800 series, should I not go on then..... :question :question :-/
Title: Re: Can any one help with a MG ZR 1.4
Post by: TheBoy on 21 June 2010, 11:10:48
From memory, coolant does flow though intake manifold mouldings, so *could* be the intake manifold gasket. Be aware these vary between earlier and later k series (as do rocker cover gaskets and cambelt kits).

But HG is common failure. JLR have a newer MLS gasket that virtually overcomes the K series HG issue, but it works best with new oil rail (Ladder Rail) and bolts.  The HG itself is easy enough (MUST MUST MUST use new bolts, ignore the workshop manuals able measuring them). Not done a ladder yet.


Mrs TB's HG has failed again (leaks coolant out of block), has been for a while, really should fix it this summer ::).  I intend to change HG, Ladder and bolts.  Her first HG lasted 72k (1.6 K series)
Title: Re: Can any one help with a MG ZR 1.4
Post by: TheBoy on 21 June 2010, 11:15:22
I should add, we have had our 25 since May 2010, and its suffered a single HG failure (2nd gasket has coolant leak) and a fuel pump failure (replaced under warranty).

Can't fault its reliability - and doesn't need a great deal of proactive maintnenece (just normal servicing). Which reminds me, at 102k, should I consider looking at the rear brakes (never been looked at ::))
Title: Re: Can any one help with a MG ZR 1.4
Post by: Del Boy on 21 June 2010, 11:21:42
2010 TB? Shame about the headgaskets but I like 25's and ZR's a lot, they're good little cars and I find other than HG's I find they're bulletproof.
Title: Re: Can any one help with a MG ZR 1.4
Post by: rikki_essex on 21 June 2010, 11:43:06
i was just reading on the mg owners club about it and they was saying about the inlet mainfold gasket and it is not always the head gasket. There is no mayo any where that i can see just water going through at a rate of knots and also leaking into one or two of the cyclinders.
Title: Re: Can any one help with a MG ZR 1.4
Post by: TheBoy on 21 June 2010, 11:57:55
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2010 TB? Shame about the headgaskets but I like 25's and ZR's a lot, they're good little cars and I find other than HG's I find they're bulletproof.
Soz, 2000.
Title: Re: Can any one help with a MG ZR 1.4
Post by: TheBoy on 21 June 2010, 11:58:49
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i was just reading on the mg owners club about it and they was saying about the inlet mainfold gasket and it is not always the head gasket. There is no mayo any where that i can see just water going through at a rate of knots and also leaking into one or two of the cyclinders.
As said, don't rule out inlet gasket. Only a few quid, and easy to change (if you have a good selection of tools - torx from memory, needs extension bars for some)
Title: Re: Can any one help with a MG ZR 1.4
Post by: CaptainZok on 21 June 2010, 14:21:40
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From memory, coolant does flow though intake manifold mouldings, so *could* be the intake manifold gasket. Be aware these vary between earlier and later k series (as do rocker cover gaskets and cambelt kits).

But HG is common failure. JLR have a newer MLS gasket that virtually overcomes the K series HG issue, but it works best with new oil rail (Ladder Rail) and bolts.  The HG itself is easy enough (MUST MUST MUST use new bolts, ignore the workshop manuals able measuring them). Not done a ladder yet.


Mrs TB's HG has failed again (leaks coolant out of block), has been for a while, really should fix it this summer ::).  I intend to change HG, Ladder and bolts.  Her first HG lasted 72k (1.6 K series)
Just buy her this and she will be happy.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m302/CaptainZok/GreenBondJag.jpg)
Copyright: "The Bond Museum", Keswick
Title: Re: Can any one help with a MG ZR 1.4
Post by: Kevin Wood on 21 June 2010, 14:36:22
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From memory, coolant does flow though intake manifold mouldings, so *could* be the intake manifold gasket. Be aware these vary between earlier and later k series (as do rocker cover gaskets and cambelt kits).

But HG is common failure. JLR have a newer MLS gasket that virtually overcomes the K series HG issue, but it works best with new oil rail (Ladder Rail) and bolts.  The HG itself is easy enough (MUST MUST MUST use new bolts, ignore the workshop manuals able measuring them). Not done a ladder yet.


Mrs TB's HG has failed again (leaks coolant out of block), has been for a while, really should fix it this summer ::).  I intend to change HG, Ladder and bolts.  Her first HG lasted 72k (1.6 K series)
Just buy her this and she will be happy.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m302/CaptainZok/GreenBondJag.jpg)
Copyright: "The Bond Museum", Keswick

Ahh, the slayer of pikey wagons. ;D

Kevin
Title: Re: Can any one help with a MG ZR 1.4
Post by: CaptainZok on 21 June 2010, 14:37:44
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From memory, coolant does flow though intake manifold mouldings, so *could* be the intake manifold gasket. Be aware these vary between earlier and later k series (as do rocker cover gaskets and cambelt kits).

But HG is common failure. JLR have a newer MLS gasket that virtually overcomes the K series HG issue, but it works best with new oil rail (Ladder Rail) and bolts.  The HG itself is easy enough (MUST MUST MUST use new bolts, ignore the workshop manuals able measuring them). Not done a ladder yet.


Mrs TB's HG has failed again (leaks coolant out of block), has been for a while, really should fix it this summer ::).  I intend to change HG, Ladder and bolts.  Her first HG lasted 72k (1.6 K series)
Just buy her this and she will be happy.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m302/CaptainZok/GreenBondJag.jpg)
Copyright: "The Bond Museum", Keswick

Ahh, the slayer of pikey wagons. ;D

Kevin
Yep I'm sure TB would get plenty of fun out of it too.
Title: Re: Can any one help with a MG ZR 1.4
Post by: Elite Pete on 21 June 2010, 14:51:07
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From memory, coolant does flow though intake manifold mouldings, so *could* be the intake manifold gasket. Be aware these vary between earlier and later k series (as do rocker cover gaskets and cambelt kits).

But HG is common failure. JLR have a newer MLS gasket that virtually overcomes the K series HG issue, but it works best with new oil rail (Ladder Rail) and bolts.  The HG itself is easy enough (MUST MUST MUST use new bolts, ignore the workshop manuals able measuring them). Not done a ladder yet.


Mrs TB's HG has failed again (leaks coolant out of block), has been for a while, really should fix it this summer ::).  I intend to change HG, Ladder and bolts.  Her first HG lasted 72k (1.6 K series)
Just buy her this and she will be happy.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m302/CaptainZok/GreenBondJag.jpg)
Copyright: "The Bond Museum", Keswick

Ahh, the slayer of pikey wagons. ;D

Kevin
Yep I'm sure TB would get plenty of fun out of it too.
Nah, it'll be rattling its bag off within a week ::)
Title: Re: Can any one help with a MG ZR 1.4
Post by: TheBoy on 21 June 2010, 16:58:09
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From memory, coolant does flow though intake manifold mouldings, so *could* be the intake manifold gasket. Be aware these vary between earlier and later k series (as do rocker cover gaskets and cambelt kits).

But HG is common failure. JLR have a newer MLS gasket that virtually overcomes the K series HG issue, but it works best with new oil rail (Ladder Rail) and bolts.  The HG itself is easy enough (MUST MUST MUST use new bolts, ignore the workshop manuals able measuring them). Not done a ladder yet.


Mrs TB's HG has failed again (leaks coolant out of block), has been for a while, really should fix it this summer ::).  I intend to change HG, Ladder and bolts.  Her first HG lasted 72k (1.6 K series)
Just buy her this and she will be happy.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m302/CaptainZok/GreenBondJag.jpg)
Copyright: "The Bond Museum", Keswick
That would conveniently deal with middle lane pillocks on the motorway.  Could have done with that yesterday
Title: Re: Can any one help with a MG ZR 1.4
Post by: TheBoy on 21 June 2010, 16:58:38
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From memory, coolant does flow though intake manifold mouldings, so *could* be the intake manifold gasket. Be aware these vary between earlier and later k series (as do rocker cover gaskets and cambelt kits).

But HG is common failure. JLR have a newer MLS gasket that virtually overcomes the K series HG issue, but it works best with new oil rail (Ladder Rail) and bolts.  The HG itself is easy enough (MUST MUST MUST use new bolts, ignore the workshop manuals able measuring them). Not done a ladder yet.


Mrs TB's HG has failed again (leaks coolant out of block), has been for a while, really should fix it this summer ::).  I intend to change HG, Ladder and bolts.  Her first HG lasted 72k (1.6 K series)
Just buy her this and she will be happy.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m302/CaptainZok/GreenBondJag.jpg)
Copyright: "The Bond Museum", Keswick

Ahh, the slayer of pikey wagons. ;D

Kevin
Yep I'm sure TB would get plenty of fun out of it too.
Nah, it'll be rattling its bag off within a week ::)
Oi! It wasn't entirely my fault ::)
Title: Re: Can any one help with a MG ZR 1.4
Post by: tunnie on 21 June 2010, 17:03:35
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From memory, coolant does flow though intake manifold mouldings, so *could* be the intake manifold gasket. Be aware these vary between earlier and later k series (as do rocker cover gaskets and cambelt kits).

But HG is common failure. JLR have a newer MLS gasket that virtually overcomes the K series HG issue, but it works best with new oil rail (Ladder Rail) and bolts.  The HG itself is easy enough (MUST MUST MUST use new bolts, ignore the workshop manuals able measuring them). Not done a ladder yet.


Mrs TB's HG has failed again (leaks coolant out of block), has been for a while, really should fix it this summer ::).  I intend to change HG, Ladder and bolts.  Her first HG lasted 72k (1.6 K series)
Just buy her this and she will be happy.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m302/CaptainZok/GreenBondJag.jpg)
Copyright: "The Bond Museum", Keswick

Ahh, the slayer of pikey wagons. ;D

Kevin
Yep I'm sure TB would get plenty of fun out of it too.
Nah, it'll be rattling its bag off within a week ::)
Oi! It wasn't entirely my fault ::)

There was another angry short bloke driving Goldie?  :o  ;D
Title: Re: Can any one help with a MG ZR 1.4
Post by: TheBoy on 21 June 2010, 17:07:12
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From memory, coolant does flow though intake manifold mouldings, so *could* be the intake manifold gasket. Be aware these vary between earlier and later k series (as do rocker cover gaskets and cambelt kits).

But HG is common failure. JLR have a newer MLS gasket that virtually overcomes the K series HG issue, but it works best with new oil rail (Ladder Rail) and bolts.  The HG itself is easy enough (MUST MUST MUST use new bolts, ignore the workshop manuals able measuring them). Not done a ladder yet.


Mrs TB's HG has failed again (leaks coolant out of block), has been for a while, really should fix it this summer ::).  I intend to change HG, Ladder and bolts.  Her first HG lasted 72k (1.6 K series)
Just buy her this and she will be happy.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m302/CaptainZok/GreenBondJag.jpg)
Copyright: "The Bond Museum", Keswick

Ahh, the slayer of pikey wagons. ;D

Kevin
Yep I'm sure TB would get plenty of fun out of it too.
Nah, it'll be rattling its bag off within a week ::)
Oi! It wasn't entirely my fault ::)

There was another angry short bloke driving Goldie?  :o  ;D
I was running late, because she was gasbagging for too long....  ....thus (using women's logic here) it was her fault....
Title: Re: Can any one help with a MG ZR 1.4
Post by: tunnie on 21 June 2010, 17:13:13
Sounds like clear logic  :D
Title: Re: Can any one help with a MG ZR 1.4
Post by: SeedyV6 on 22 June 2010, 07:48:20
I had a 400 1.4 years ago. The water inlet manifold gasket went first at about 65K. The headgasket finally went at about 89K. To be fair both me and the missus ragged the thing because it just loved to be revved.  :y