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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: johny5 on 29 June 2010, 14:55:05
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Hi all, just a quick one to ask if anyone can help?
My sis has a car that she desperatly needs taking back to her house in Devon, the car is currently in aldershot Hampshire.
Just wondered if anybody fancied earning themselves some money and would include free meals etc.. :D
We looked into the cost of hiring a trailer etc and its more money than she can afford to be honest.
Like i say she is desperate as where it is now at my mothers she is moving soon. :(
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have you got a rigid towbar, if not they dont cost that much, and then just tow back your self.
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No i dont have one on mine otherwise i would. :(
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just need a old scaffold pole drill hole's in ends and get two hucks or are the screw rings carn't remember name for them think cost me £5 intotal for lot pulled volvo to scrapy that way just needs to be 6foot to 8foot long.
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I hired a proper trailer for about £60 for a days hire.
Do you think that's expensive?
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i know trailer hire isnt expensive but i dont have a towbar!!
And yes i do have the towing bar bout 180 miles is a long way.
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I hired a proper trailer for about £60 for a days hire.
Do you think that's expensive?
thats cheap rob i got recovery lorry for day £389, and there is a car trailer on ebay buy at £70,
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No i dont have one on mine otherwise i would. :(
oh and dont need tow ball attach it to the tow eyes.
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What car is it that needs recovering >?? As weight is a prime concern for anyone offering to help. An Omega cannot - legally - tow another Omega as you exceed the allowable max train mass.
So in order to be safe and legal a few questions need to be asked... :(
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Yea sure, its a V reg nissan primera. Probably abit lighter than an omega?
Was just a quick question on the offchance thats all.
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primera + trailer is going to be banging on the door of the migs towing limit
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Well according to this site ..
http://www.cuddles.abelgratis.net/nissan.htm
around 1300-1400 Kgs
So WELL within the towing limits of an omega :y :y
Add the weight of a trailer 200-300 Kgs and you are still OK .. just
next question ... why does it need recovering ???
As any problems with brakes/suspension/steering/transmission mean it must use a trailer and not a towbar
If it is an auto it will need work before towing, and if towed would need someone sat in it !!
So having worked all that out .. a decision on trailer/towing can be made ... rigid towbars much easier to get hold of than trailers .. :)
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If the cars taxed amd mot'd join the AA or RAC and get them to bring it back ;)
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just need a old scaffold pole drill hole's in ends and get two hucks or are the screw rings carn't remember name for them think cost me £5 intotal for lot pulled volvo to scrapy that way just needs to be 6foot to 8foot long.
On a longer journey Same you might well get a tug for that one.(http://planetsmilies.net/machine-smiley-5069.gif) (http://planetsmilies.net)
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Well according to this site ..
http://www.cuddles.abelgratis.net/nissan.htm
around 1300-1400 Kgs
So WELL within the towing limits of an omega :y :y
Add the weight of a trailer 200-300 Kgs and you are still OK .. just
next question ... why does it need recovering ???
As any problems with brakes/suspension/steering/transmission mean it must use a trailer and not a towbar
If it is an auto it will need work before towing, and if towed would need someone sat in it !!
So having worked all that out .. a decision on trailer/towing can be made ... rigid towbars much easier to get hold of than trailers .. :)
A decent trailer will weigh a fair bit more than that.
Our new twin axle trailer made of light aluminium is 645 kilos.... :(
...but were in Scotland so afraid a bit to far to assist...
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Wow, i didnt realise i would get so much feedback ;D
Basically, The car has no mot or tax, its been sitting there for around 2yrs so brakes are prob seized, it was parked up due to an ABS problem so cant reli be towed legally with a towing bar (I do have one of these)
So as i dont have a towbar, and neither does any1 else in my family it has to be done by hiring car and trailer + fuel which as u can imagine mounts up in £££'s.
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found this may help http://www.shiply.com/vehicle-delivery/cheap-car-transporters.php?ref=493563&gclid=CPKUi9L0xaICFVKX2AoduR0X6A
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There's a few places on Ebay that will transport a car for about £1 a mile one way ;)
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I can reccomend a firm that I recently used and the guy was fantastic, it was around about a £1 a mile one way he can offer cheaper prices if he is going that way to maybe collect something from Devon, he took great care of the car I was having moved and updated me all the time.
Like you I was tempted to move the car myself but factor in the legalities and potential fines for overloading trailers and towing weights etc and you can get this guy to move it hassle free and it's door to door.
http://www.singlevehicle.co.uk/
I hope the link works, if not just google single vehicle movements.
Darren
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If someone has a trailer available and doesn't want to do the full journey I'm going to Plymouth next Friday afternoon (stopping in Dorchester) and may well be able to do the towing.
But, TBH, if you can get it moved for £1/mile it's a good deal as that'll include insurance etc :y
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Hi all, just a quick one to ask if anyone can help?
My sis has a car that she desperatly needs taking back to her house in Devon, the car is currently in aldershot Hampshire.
Just wondered if anybody fancied earning themselves some money and would include free meals etc.. :D
We looked into the cost of hiring a trailer etc and its more money than she can afford to be honest.
Like i say she is desperate as where it is now at my mothers she is moving soon. :(
Now I'm totally confused. If its been there for 2 years why the sudden panic to get it back? Surely given the possible cost of getting it back it woud be better to scrap it locally & get £150 or so for it?
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Nice one, cheers guys ill look at them.
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Rob, she wants the car back because my mum is moving house and it obviously cant b left there when shes gone!
No way will she scrap it, shes spent alot on the car and its not ur usual heap of jap, its actually pretty decent and worth saving.
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Fair enough, I'm just saying that by the very fact that its not been touched for 2 years it cant be thought of very highly.
Good luck with the endeavour
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I broke down recently...
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1277723776
...and to be honest my only thoughts were of getting the car the 100 miles back home. We just connected the tow rope and got on with it... not much thought was given to the legality of what we were doing-with regards to train weights or other such nonsense!
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Hey Brik, yeah i read through your ordeal, what a nightmare! i wud tow it with a metal bar thing ive got, but as the brakes are probably no existant and it has no mot or tax i dont wanna get the car taken off me and crushed, in my opinion its not worth the risk nowadays. Plus its not my car anyway haha.
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and remember to check what you have on your driving licence, i passed my test in 1998 so im only allowed to tow up to 750kg without passing a dedicated trailer test.
have been advised by local plod that im ok to tow a car with a rope or bar, but not a trailer or aframe/dolly, as a rope or bar requieres a driver in the towed car and the car requires mot and tax etc, but a car on a aframe or dolly doesnt require a driver so youd need the trailer part of the licence there all stamped and correct.
its a minefield!
i couldnt tow anything with my transit, as it was a 3500kg van even a little halfrauds trailer would have put the train wieght over the 3500kg on my licence
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I have rigid bar here in Aldershot you can borrow. Alas I cannot help with moving the car until a week on friday as this weekend I am visiting family and the weekend after the friday mentionned I am doing another spot of sailing.
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and remember to check what you have on your driving licence, i passed my test in 1998 so im only allowed to tow up to 750kg without passing a dedicated trailer test.
have been advised by local plod that im ok to tow a car with a rope or bar, but not a trailer or aframe/dolly, as a rope or bar requieres a driver in the towed car and the car requires mot and tax etc, but a car on a aframe or dolly doesnt require a driver so youd need the trailer part of the licence there all stamped and correct.
its a minefield!
i couldnt tow anything with my transit, as it was a 3500kg van even a little halfrauds trailer would have put the train wieght over the 3500kg on my licence
Yeah im the same mate, passed mine in 99 so i cant tow a proper trailer either, so annoying.
I used to drive a LWB transit too funnily enough for work so i know where ur comin from mate.
And Gaffers i got a proper rigid towing bar myself but as u say the towing car has to hav mot n tax which it dosent sadly.
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and remember to check what you have on your driving licence, i passed my test in 1998 so im only allowed to tow up to 750kg without passing a dedicated trailer test.
have been advised by local plod that im ok to tow a car with a rope or bar, but not a trailer or aframe/dolly, as a rope or bar requieres a driver in the towed car and the car requires mot and tax etc, but a car on a aframe or dolly doesnt require a driver so youd need the trailer part of the licence there all stamped and correct.
its a minefield!
i couldnt tow anything with my transit, as it was a 3500kg van even a little halfrauds trailer would have put the train wieght over the 3500kg on my licence
Yeah im the same mate, passed mine in 99 so i cant tow a proper trailer either, so annoying.
I used to drive a LWB transit too funnily enough for work so i know where you are comin from mate.
And Gaffers i got a proper rigid towing bar myself but as u say the towing car has to hav mot n tax which it dosent sadly.
Surely you mean the car to be towed?
When I last spoke to the local plod I was in a similar situation. I asked the question and I was told as long you put a light bar and the plate of the car doing the towing on the light board and took the plate off the car to be towed he was happy. I had his PC number written down in case I was pulled over but no dramas from Bristol all the way to E Hampshire :y
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Let me speak to a colleague tomorrow who runs a recovery business on the side he may have a trailor and all it will cost is beer money. What is the car that needs to be moved?
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Ok cool! The cars a nissan primera, its only in Ash vale if you know where that is?
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Due to it has NO TAX or MOT, then you can in theory drive it on the road.
Just book an MOT in Devon and drive it down there ;-)
(Ensure that you check everything works first of cource)
As long as you have a prebooked appointment you can drive it to the MOT station for a test. All for the price of £45.00 MOT :-)
Looking through the legal side of this it does not actually state maximum distance to the MOT Station (As far as I can find) ;-)
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Due to it has NO TAX or MOT, then you can in theory drive it on the road.
Just book an MOT in Devon and drive it down there ;-)
(Ensure that you check everything works first of cource)
As long as you have a prebooked appointment you can drive it to the MOT station for a test. All for the price of £45.00 MOT :-)
Looking through the legal side of this it does not actually state maximum distance to the MOT Station (As far as I can find) ;-)
Love it what a top idea. ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D
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Well, to be honest it wudnt be the first time i have done that, but not quite that far! haha.
Also being as its been sat for 2 years, who knows what problems it has now?
Im sure the plod wud c straight through that idea if i were to get stopped lol.
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Ok cool! The cars a nissan primera, its only in Ash vale if you know where that is?
I can spit on Ash Vale from my window! ;D ;D
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pembsomega was your van full up with tools then?
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pembsomega was your van full up with tools then?
No, would take alot of tools to fill a lwb transit?
The point is if you passed your test after 97 then you can only drive up to 3500kg gtw, if your van is plated at 3.5 tonnes then you can't tow a trailer as you would have the ability, to exceed your gross train weight, doesn't matter if vans full or empty you'd have the capacity drive otherwise in accordance of your licence.
Stupid really as I often drive a tractor
With a 20 tonne trailer and that's fine on a normal licence, but with the car can't tow more 750kg ::)
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you guys that passed your test after 98 like me you are aware that this has been revised you can tow a MAM combination of 3500kgs
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/DriverLicensing/CaravansTrailersCommercialVehicles/DG_10013073
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Any luck Gaffers?
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you guys that passed your test after 98 like me you are aware that this has been revised you can tow a MAM combination of 3500kgs
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/DriverLicensing/CaravansTrailersCommercialVehicles/DG_10013073
um no you cant, did you even read the link you posted?
you can now tow a trailer as long as its within the the mam of the car, and the trailer mam doesnt exceed the the unlaiden wieght of the car.
so if your cars unlaiden wieght is 1300 kg, you can tow a trailer up to a mam of 1300 kg as the total is 2600 so thats below 3500kg.
you cant just drive up to 3500kg
so if you has a trailer say of 1700 kg mam youd be fine to tow this with an omega, but if you then towed to with a smaller car like say an old corsa, youd be breaking the law as the unliaden corsa wieghs less than the trailers mam.