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Title: Front Line Omega Police Cars.
Post by: OMEEEGAH on 06 July 2010, 15:08:30
are there any still in the job ????????

i must admit i do like a cheap old police car but some of the police blue light sales i have been to have seen amazing prices for tatty old junk thats worn out.
the last sale was a few months ago at BCA getting rid of some of North Wales's most hatefull rubbish.
They love a undercover car and that sale showed a k reg orion,2 54 plate rover mg somthings,astra diesel estate obs cars,2 unmarked st220's one high miles and tatty and one like brand new and very low miles understood to have been that idiot Bruntstrums old car.

my mate used to buy weird stuff off them like skid pan cars that used to be area cars that were like 7 years past what the other forces got shut.
Title: Re: Front Line Omega Police Cars.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 06 July 2010, 15:11:43
I recall a mate of mine (ARV driver) saying he drove his last one about 2 years ago.

Kevin
Title: Re: Front Line Omega Police Cars.
Post by: joshwyatt on 06 July 2010, 15:48:15
Yes, there are still some in service. Thames Valley Police and The Metropolitan Police Service are the two main forces with them still in service. Those are marked up vehicles, other forces still have the unmarked Omega's still on active duty.
Title: Re: Front Line Omega Police Cars.
Post by: OMEEEGAH on 06 July 2010, 15:51:31
few weeks ago i saw a 03 silver vectra unmarked car with the blue light flashing in the grills having tugged someone.

i'll have to keep my eyes open at BCA then  :D
Title: Re: Front Line Omega Police Cars.
Post by: Sixstring on 06 July 2010, 15:53:32
mmm.......ST220 low mileage, unmarked.......wonder what that fetched??

I know its a F*RD, but sounds good fun!!
Title: Re: Front Line Omega Police Cars.
Post by: OMEEEGAH on 06 July 2010, 16:06:18
yes there seems to be no golden rule with ex blue light stuff.

that low miles 22st did a fortune and it was plus vat and iirc 5 or 10% buyers premium plus vat,plus 1.5% for paying cash and then don't forget the old bill always keep the rent out the windows makes it a tidy sum on even  bangers like the 137k miles dti astra estate on a 00 w reg that did 875 quid with battle damage.
there was a silver 28 special vectra going through and a couple of white ones in and amongst all the other worn out silver and white focus's and the vectra did fortunes and they are not even Vxr's  :o it seems like the old bill stuff if sought after still needing loads of work does fortunes.

oh and that simulcast has nackered things too  ::)
Title: Re: Front Line Omega Police Cars.
Post by: Sixstring on 06 July 2010, 16:12:20
simulcast??
Title: Re: Front Line Omega Police Cars.
Post by: henryd on 06 July 2010, 16:13:21
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mmm.......ST220 low mileage, unmarked.......wonder what that fetched??

I know its a F*RD, but sounds good fun!!

wrong wheel drive :-/ :y
Title: Re: Front Line Omega Police Cars.
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 06 July 2010, 16:15:35
Still some armoured up vehicles remaing on active duty with various units. :y
Title: Re: Front Line Omega Police Cars.
Post by: Sixstring on 06 July 2010, 16:18:31
Being silly, Zulu.......
do you remember the old Humber pig and Tangi's, simba's, and snatches??

Big auction a few days ago, loads of them for sale, cheap money, too!!
Title: Re: Front Line Omega Police Cars.
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 06 July 2010, 16:33:30
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Being silly, Zulu.......
do you remember the old Humber pig and Tangi's, simba's, and snatches??

Big auction a few days ago, loads of them for sale, cheap money, too!!

Do I ever - I loved Pigs and, it's not the first time I've thought about lifting a Tangi, painting it in a civvie colour and using it as a weekend runabout. 8-) 8-) :y

I still shake occasionally when I remember the maniacs who drove the snatches as it's wasn't entirely unknown for someone, having got caught up in the moment, to overturn the wagon ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: Front Line Omega Police Cars.
Post by: Sixstring on 06 July 2010, 16:38:00
mm....me too! had a few "hairy moments" in a snatch....avoiding some idiot using us for target practice with an AK!!!!
Nearly lost it several times......adrenaline is brown and wet, you know!!
Title: Re: Front Line Omega Police Cars.
Post by: Elite Pete on 06 July 2010, 17:25:34
Saw one in Maghull about 3 weeks ago ;)
Title: Re: Front Line Omega Police Cars.
Post by: OMEEEGAH on 06 July 2010, 17:43:49
i did see one on the m53 liverpool a few weeks ago in white and blue and yellow or was it green and yellow stickers but i think it was a Ambo  :-?
Title: Re: Front Line Omega Police Cars.
Post by: shaggydog on 06 July 2010, 18:39:47
Nothing like trying to keep up with the ruc whilst driving a pig, i'm glad i wasn't in the back. As for the snatch most roundabouts on two wheels. ;D
Title: Re: Front Line Omega Police Cars.
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 06 July 2010, 18:52:59
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Nothing like trying to keep up with the ruc whilst driving a pig, i'm glad i wasn't in the back. As for the snatch most roundabouts on two wheels. ;D



 ;D ;D ;D Happy days Shag 8-) :y :y
Title: Re: Front Line Omega Police Cars.
Post by: Jim on 06 July 2010, 19:23:15
Do you know why Snatch "land rovers" are called "Snatch"
Title: Re: Front Line Omega Police Cars.
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 06 July 2010, 20:00:09
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Do you know why Snatch "land rovers" are called "Snatch"

If I cast my mind back, a certain regiment decided to scoop those who needed to scooped by using stripped-down trucks (110 and air portable) - that was in the early days mind you during honest straight forward rioting.

These vehicles were used in conjunction with 'snatch squads' of carefully chosen personnel whose task it was to invite those more annoying members of the riotous assembly behind the front line for a friendly chat. ;D :y

The tactic evolved from that, but generally rested on either scattering the mob using the trucks for the foot squads to deal with, or carrying the squad on board and disrupting the mob from depth (a slightly more dangerous tactic)

I do remember, after a particularly nasty weekend when summary justice was handed out in abundance, an air-portable driving down a rather infamous road quite slowly. Attached to the front of the vehicle was a floor broom - a clear message to the natives that ‘we’ had swept the floor with them and that if they wanted to come round for tea again, they'd be more than welcome. :y 
Title: Re: Front Line Omega Police Cars.
Post by: Jim on 06 July 2010, 20:23:43
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Do you know why Snatch "land rovers" are called "Snatch"

If I cast my mind back, a certain regiment decided to scoop those who needed to scooped by using stripped-down trucks (110 and air portable) - that was in the early days mind you during honest straight forward rioting.

These vehicles were used in conjunction with 'snatch squads' of carefully chosen personnel whose task it was to invite those more annoying members of the riotous assembly behind the front line for a friendly chat. ;D :y

The tactic evolved from that, but generally rested on either scattering the mob using the trucks for the foot squads to deal with, or carrying the squad on board and disrupting the mob from depth (a slightly more dangerous tactic)

I do remember, after a particularly nasty weekend when summary justice was handed out in abundance, an air-portable driving down a rather infamous road quite slowly. Attached to the front of the vehicle was a floor broom - a clear message to the natives that ‘we’ had swept the floor with them and that if they wanted to come round for tea again, they'd be more than welcome. :y 
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Title: Re: Front Line Omega Police Cars.
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 06 July 2010, 20:27:32
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Do you know why Snatch "land rovers" are called "Snatch"

If I cast my mind back, a certain regiment decided to scoop those who needed to scooped by using stripped-down trucks (110 and air portable) - that was in the early days mind you during honest straight forward rioting.

These vehicles were used in conjunction with 'snatch squads' of carefully chosen personnel whose task it was to invite those more annoying members of the riotous assembly behind the front line for a friendly chat. ;D :y

The tactic evolved from that, but generally rested on either scattering the mob using the trucks for the foot squads to deal with, or carrying the squad on board and disrupting the mob from depth (a slightly more dangerous tactic)

I do remember, after a particularly nasty weekend when summary justice was handed out in abundance, an air-portable driving down a rather infamous road quite slowly. Attached to the front of the vehicle was a floor broom - a clear message to the natives that ‘we’ had swept the floor with them and that if they wanted to come round for tea again, they'd be more than welcome. :y 
[size=20]WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!![/size]

Put me out of my misery Jim.
Title: Re: Front Line Omega Police Cars.
Post by: Jim on 06 July 2010, 20:29:24
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Do you know why Snatch "land rovers" are called "Snatch"

If I cast my mind back, a certain regiment decided to scoop those who needed to scooped by using stripped-down trucks (110 and air portable) - that was in the early days mind you during honest straight forward rioting.

These vehicles were used in conjunction with 'snatch squads' of carefully chosen personnel whose task it was to invite those more annoying members of the riotous assembly behind the front line for a friendly chat. ;D :y

The tactic evolved from that, but generally rested on either scattering the mob using the trucks for the foot squads to deal with, or carrying the squad on board and disrupting the mob from depth (a slightly more dangerous tactic)

I do remember, after a particularly nasty weekend when summary justice was handed out in abundance, an air-portable driving down a rather infamous road quite slowly. Attached to the front of the vehicle was a floor broom - a clear message to the natives that ‘we’ had swept the floor with them and that if they wanted to come round for tea again, they'd be more than welcome. :y 
[size=20]WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!![/size]

Put me out of my misery Jim.
The Snatch land rover was called so because the letters S.N.A.T.C.H are an abbrevative and on the front of a set of Vehicle Doc's for one of these land rover variants the letters mean:
S:ervice
N:orthern Ireland
A:nti
T:errorist
C:ommand
H:utch

True, I ran a fleet of these vehicle when they came into service in 1993 :y
Title: Re: Front Line Omega Police Cars.
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 06 July 2010, 20:39:56
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Do you know why Snatch "land rovers" are called "Snatch"

If I cast my mind back, a certain regiment decided to scoop those who needed to scooped by using stripped-down trucks (110 and air portable) - that was in the early days mind you during honest straight forward rioting.

These vehicles were used in conjunction with 'snatch squads' of carefully chosen personnel whose task it was to invite those more annoying members of the riotous assembly behind the front line for a friendly chat. ;D :y

The tactic evolved from that, but generally rested on either scattering the mob using the trucks for the foot squads to deal with, or carrying the squad on board and disrupting the mob from depth (a slightly more dangerous tactic)

I do remember, after a particularly nasty weekend when summary justice was handed out in abundance, an air-portable driving down a rather infamous road quite slowly. Attached to the front of the vehicle was a floor broom - a clear message to the natives that ‘we’ had swept the floor with them and that if they wanted to come round for tea again, they'd be more than welcome. :y 
[size=20]WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!![/size]

Put me out of my misery Jim.
The Snatch land rover was called so because the letters S.N.A.T.C.H are an abbrevative and on the front of a set of Vehicle Doc's for one of these land rover variants the letters mean:
S:ervice
N:orthern Ireland
A:nti
T:errorist
C:ommand
H:utch

True, I ran a fleet of these vehicle when they came into service in 1993 :y


I wouldn't doubt it Jim knowing the MOD'd affection for abbrevations, by 1993 I was a shadow of my former self and on a rather more civilised posting in London. ;D ;D

Did the hutch refer to the opening top on the rear of the truck?  I can't remember when these came into service.

Although the early versions (after the stripped down ones) had composite protection only but no hatch for top sentries.
Title: Re: Front Line Omega Police Cars.
Post by: Jim on 06 July 2010, 20:49:55
I has with 26 Transport Sqn from Dec 92-Mar 95 in Lisburn NI, and they came in service around June 93 and we where one of the first units to get them.
its like most of the vehicle in the army Land rover TUM TUL FFR

T:ruck
U:tility
M:edium

T:ruck
U:tility
L:ight

F:itted
F:or
R:adio
Title: Re: Front Line Omega Police Cars.
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 06 July 2010, 21:00:37
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I has with 26 Transport Sqn from Dec 92-Mar 95 in Lisburn NI, and they came in service around June 93 and we where one of the first units to get them.
its like most of the vehicle in the army Land rover TUM TUL FFR

T:ruck
U:tility
M:edium

T:ruck
U:tility
L:ight

F:itted
F:or
R:adio

Aah right, by that time the protection offered was far in advance to that available in the early days.  The threat had evolved into ballistic/explosive attack so the armour had been developed to cope.

The trucks that you ran were light years ahead of what I sat in ;D ;D
Title: Re: Front Line Omega Police Cars.
Post by: Jim on 06 July 2010, 21:08:30
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I has with 26 Transport Sqn from Dec 92-Mar 95 in Lisburn NI, and they came in service around June 93 and we where one of the first units to get them.
its like most of the vehicle in the army Land rover TUM TUL FFR

T:ruck
U:tility
M:edium

T:ruck
U:tility
L:ight

F:itted
F:or
R:adio

Aah right, by that time the protection offered was far in advance to that available in the early days.  The threat had evolved into ballistic/explosive attack so the armour had been developed to cope.

The trucks that you ran were light years ahead of what I sat in ;D ;D
They where good in there time and enviroment (ie:NI) but not good in Iraq or Afghan they where just a stop gap, I also drove them in Bosnia in 1995 the big V8 came in handed when you had to but your foot down while being shoot at driving along Sniper Alley in Sarajevo :o
Title: Re: Front Line Omega Police Cars.
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 06 July 2010, 21:28:32
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I has with 26 Transport Sqn from Dec 92-Mar 95 in Lisburn NI, and they came in service around June 93 and we where one of the first units to get them.
its like most of the vehicle in the army Land rover TUM TUL FFR

T:ruck
U:tility
M:edium

T:ruck
U:tility
L:ight

F:itted
F:or
R:adio

Aah right, by that time the protection offered was far in advance to that available in the early days.  The threat had evolved into ballistic/explosive attack so the armour had been developed to cope.

The trucks that you ran were light years ahead of what I sat in ;D ;D
They where good in there time and enviroment (ie:NI) but not good in Iraq or Afghan they where just a stop gap, I also drove them in Bosnia in 1995 the big V8 came in handed when you had to but your foot down while being shoot at driving along Sniper Alley in Sarajevo :o

That's right Jim, those trucks saved many and although the 'troubles' in Northern Ireland was a particularly sad time for a great many people, it was invaluable proving ground for hardware development - especially in the field of personnel protection.

On the point of the V8 powered trucks, the RUC Special Patrol Group ran some 6 cylinder composite wagons prior to the introduction of the 8 pot armoured Hotspur which evolved into the Tangi and variants.
Title: Re: Front Line Omega Police Cars.
Post by: Ploppy on 06 July 2010, 23:23:17
Mine was released from Suffolk last year..... 

one of a few ... :y