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Title: Anyone ever changed a reluctor ring on a Rover?
Post by: TheBoy on 31 July 2010, 22:40:05
I have just failed miserably at the first hurdle - I couldn't even remove the ABS sensor  :-[

I would have failed at the 2nd hurdle as well, as I can't find my balljoint splitter  :-[


Unless anyone knows a way without removing the bloody hub?
Title: Re: Anyone ever changed a reluctor ring on a Rover?
Post by: TheBoy on 31 July 2010, 23:12:44
And I've spent most of the day on it  :-[, apart from a brief chat with Auto Addict, which was a welcome break, seeing as I was looking for Sammy at the time ;D
Title: Re: Anyone ever changed a reluctor ring on a Rover?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 31 July 2010, 23:16:07
Front or rear?

I assume front?
Title: Re: Anyone ever changed a reluctor ring on a Rover?
Post by: TheBoy on 31 July 2010, 23:17:06
Yeah, front...
Title: Re: Anyone ever changed a reluctor ring on a Rover?
Post by: TheBoy on 31 July 2010, 23:18:05
Certainly the OSF, the ring is split, presumably thats what causes the ABS to constantly fire under breaking, which Mrs TheBoy finds somewhat disturbing....
Title: Re: Anyone ever changed a reluctor ring on a Rover?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 31 July 2010, 23:27:47
Is it CV joint mounted (I guess it will be)

Split ring will cuase the ABS to fire every time you brake
Title: Re: Anyone ever changed a reluctor ring on a Rover?
Post by: TheBoy on 31 July 2010, 23:30:37
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Is it CV joint mounted (I guess it will be)

Split ring will cuase the ABS to fire every time you brake
Yup, mounted hub side of the CV.

Implication is you can remove hub, clean it up, then drift a new one on...
Title: Re: Anyone ever changed a reluctor ring on a Rover?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 31 July 2010, 23:39:41
Or remove CV joint.....heat the new ring up on the stove.....it should just drop on (with a light tap, clean the face of the CV joint up well)
Title: Re: Anyone ever changed a reluctor ring on a Rover?
Post by: hotel21 on 31 July 2010, 23:41:35
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Or remove CV joint.....heat the new ring up on the stove.....it should just drop on (with a light tap, clean the face of the CV joint up well)

Keep the new CV joint in the freezer overnight as well...   ;)
Title: Re: Anyone ever changed a reluctor ring on a Rover?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 31 July 2010, 23:44:19
Sounds like hes using the old one....

Title: Re: Anyone ever changed a reluctor ring on a Rover?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 31 July 2010, 23:44:54
.....the tight bugger  ;D
Title: Re: Anyone ever changed a reluctor ring on a Rover?
Post by: hotel21 on 31 July 2010, 23:47:15
Aye, squeeks when he walks, that one...  Either way, an overnight at minus 18 or so will increase the normal tempt interferance fit tolerances.  ;D
Title: Re: Anyone ever changed a reluctor ring on a Rover?
Post by: TheBoy on 01 August 2010, 09:37:32
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Or remove CV joint.....heat the new ring up on the stove.....it should just drop on (with a light tap, clean the face of the CV joint up well)
Still have to remove the hub though?

Might have to get out the camping stove, assuming halogen hobs aren't ideal for that ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Anyone ever changed a reluctor ring on a Rover?
Post by: Elite Pete on 01 August 2010, 10:49:46
Have two Rover 25 diesels in the family, i've changed quit a few CV joints. You have to undo the bottom ball joint.

I bought these last time and they've been ok.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ROVER-25-2-0TD-CV-JOINT-NEW-99-ONWARDS-/130358306961?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1e59f5e891

My 25s haven't got abs so I removed the rings which come off really easy but don't know what they'll be like to remove after being on the car for a while.
Title: Re: Anyone ever changed a reluctor ring on a Rover?
Post by: TheBoy on 01 August 2010, 11:02:43
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Have two Rover 25 diesels in the family, i've changed quit a few CV joints. You have to undo the bottom ball joint.

I bought these last time and they've been ok.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ROVER-25-2-0TD-CV-JOINT-NEW-99-ONWARDS-/130358306961?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1e59f5e891

My 25s haven't got abs so I removed the rings which come off really easy but don't know what they'll be like to remove after being on the car for a while.
I suspect the one one, being split, will pop off nice and easy. Probably need a lot of cleaning up to remove all rust from that area.

Bit reluctant to change the CV itself when its not showing any signs of needing replacement, and putting on a potentially inferior pattern  :-/ (hence why I bought the rings only)
Title: Re: Anyone ever changed a reluctor ring on a Rover?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 01 August 2010, 13:59:20
You nont need to remove the hub, just the lower balljoint so you can swing the hub assembly forward enough to get the joint out.
Title: Re: Anyone ever changed a reluctor ring on a Rover?
Post by: TheBoy on 01 August 2010, 19:06:31
Crap crap crap crap double crap.

Rounded off the torx bolt that holds ABS sensor on  >:(
Title: Re: Anyone ever changed a reluctor ring on a Rover?
Post by: TheBoy on 01 August 2010, 19:07:43
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You nont need to remove the hub, just the lower balljoint so you can swing the hub assembly forward enough to get the joint out.
Not sure I understand? as in turn it full lock, then a little bit more (tracking off track rod as well)?
Title: Re: Anyone ever changed a reluctor ring on a Rover?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 01 August 2010, 19:14:20
Detach lower (wishbone) ball joint and you cna swing the hub out whilst still attached to the strutt....this will give enough slack to get the cv joint out of the hub.

Simples
Title: Re: Anyone ever changed a reluctor ring on a Rover?
Post by: TheBoy on 01 August 2010, 19:26:01
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Detach lower (wishbone) ball joint and you cna swing the hub out whilst still attached to the strutt....this will give enough slack to get the cv joint out of the hub.

Simples
Have you done that on a Rover 25, as not convinced there is movement in the strut  :-/

I'll give it a go once I've located my flippin splitter, and bought some split pins (presumably they shouldn't be reused?
Title: Re: Anyone ever changed a reluctor ring on a Rover?
Post by: Elite Pete on 01 August 2010, 19:50:13
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Detach lower (wishbone) ball joint and you cna swing the hub out whilst still attached to the strutt....this will give enough slack to get the cv joint out of the hub.

Simples
Have you done that on a Rover 25, as not convinced there is movement in the strut  :-/

I'll give it a go once I've located my flippin splitter, and bought some split pins (presumably they shouldn't be reused?
Undo the large nut in the end of the CV joint and then the bottom ball joint and track rod end, that will allow the hub to be pulled out enough to clear the end of the CV joint. Be careful not to pull the opposite end of the drive shaft out of the gearbox as you will end up with a large pool of gearbox oil on your drive ::)
Title: Re: Anyone ever changed a reluctor ring on a Rover?
Post by: TheBoy on 01 August 2010, 19:52:43
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Detach lower (wishbone) ball joint and you cna swing the hub out whilst still attached to the strutt....this will give enough slack to get the cv joint out of the hub.

Simples
Have you done that on a Rover 25, as not convinced there is movement in the strut  :-/

I'll give it a go once I've located my flippin splitter, and bought some split pins (presumably they shouldn't be reused?
Undo the large nut in the end of the CV joint and then the bottom ball joint and track rod end, that will allow the hub to be pulled out enough to clear the end of the CV joint. Be careful not to pull the opposite end of the drive shaft out of the gearbox as you will end up with a large pool of gearbox oil on your drive ::)
The one that you see in middle of brake disc once the wheel is off?
Title: Re: Anyone ever changed a reluctor ring on a Rover?
Post by: hotel21 on 01 August 2010, 19:54:42
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Detach lower (wishbone) ball joint and you cna swing the hub out whilst still attached to the strutt....this will give enough slack to get the cv joint out of the hub.

Simples
Have you done that on a Rover 25, as not convinced there is movement in the strut  :-/

I'll give it a go once I've located my flippin splitter, and bought some split pins (presumably they shouldn't be reused?
Undo the large nut in the end of the CV joint and then the bottom ball joint and track rod end, that will allow the hub to be pulled out enough to clear the end of the CV joint. Be careful not to pull the opposite end of the drive shaft out of the gearbox as you will end up with a large pool of gearbox oil on your drive ::)
The one that you see in middle of brake disc once the wheel is off?

Yup, would think thats whats meant.   :y
Title: Re: Anyone ever changed a reluctor ring on a Rover?
Post by: Lazydocker on 01 August 2010, 19:59:00
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Detach lower (wishbone) ball joint and you cna swing the hub out whilst still attached to the strutt....this will give enough slack to get the cv joint out of the hub.

Simples
Have you done that on a Rover 25, as not convinced there is movement in the strut  :-/

I'll give it a go once I've located my flippin splitter, and bought some split pins (presumably they shouldn't be reused?
Undo the large nut in the end of the CV joint and then the bottom ball joint and track rod end, that will allow the hub to be pulled out enough to clear the end of the CV joint. Be careful not to pull the opposite end of the drive shaft out of the gearbox as you will end up with a large pool of gearbox oil on your drive ::)
The one that you see in middle of brake disc once the wheel is off?

Yep... Be aware that it may well be a Left Handed thread too :y

You can probably get away without splitting the TR End by turning the wheel to full lock after removing the Bottom BJ ;)
Title: Re: Anyone ever changed a reluctor ring on a Rover?
Post by: TheBoy on 01 August 2010, 20:05:03
Great, that will save me from having to do anything with that stupid torx bolt that I've knacked.
Title: Re: Anyone ever changed a reluctor ring on a Rover?
Post by: Elite Pete on 01 August 2010, 20:16:46
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Detach lower (wishbone) ball joint and you cna swing the hub out whilst still attached to the strutt....this will give enough slack to get the cv joint out of the hub.

Simples
Have you done that on a Rover 25, as not convinced there is movement in the strut  :-/

I'll give it a go once I've located my flippin splitter, and bought some split pins (presumably they shouldn't be reused?
Undo the large nut in the end of the CV joint and then the bottom ball joint and track rod end, that will allow the hub to be pulled out enough to clear the end of the CV joint. Be careful not to pull the opposite end of the drive shaft out of the gearbox as you will end up with a large pool of gearbox oil on your drive ::)
The one that you see in middle of brake disc once the wheel is off?
Thats the chappie, it retightens to 180nm ;)
Title: Re: Anyone ever changed a reluctor ring on a Rover?
Post by: henryd on 02 August 2010, 10:39:41
rovers use a  normal rh thread on the hub nut,as others have said just undo bottom balljoint and swing hub out to gain neccesary clearance. joint is a knock off type so no hidden circlip to grapple with