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Title: What FSH really means
Post by: TheBoy on 01 August 2010, 10:57:14
Look at this air filter...

(http://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/TB3/air_filter/IMG_4862.JPG)


I was fairly surprised it was a GM one, so looked for a date stamp, is this a date stamp?

(http://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/TB3/air_filter/IMG_4861.JPG)
Title: Re: What FSH really means
Post by: Kevin Wood on 01 August 2010, 11:00:49
Needs a few more miles to build up a more impressive insect collection, IMHO. ;)

Kevin
Title: Re: What FSH really means
Post by: TheBoy on 01 August 2010, 11:04:12
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Needs a few more miles to build up a more impressive insect collection, IMHO. ;)

Kevin
I think Bedfordshire's entire insect collection was trapped in the pollen filter than I've just changed ;D
Title: Re: What FSH really means
Post by: feeutfo on 01 August 2010, 11:06:30
Hmmm, mine must be due.... ::)
Title: Re: What FSH really means
Post by: tunnie on 01 August 2010, 11:12:14
given its low mileage, would not be surprised if that and fuel filter are original!
Title: Re: What FSH really means
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 01 August 2010, 12:31:09
Never trust a garage again after seeing things they get up to on TV and have seen in real life.

Judgeing by that filter I would be tempted to check the cambelt out thats suppoed to have been changed.
Title: Re: What FSH really means
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 01 August 2010, 12:34:04
If that is the date stamp then am assuming its 2003 march 5.00pm

Possibly then it was the one fitted when the car was built.

So what do Vx actually do on a service then apart from charge upwards of £50 Per hour.   :-X
Title: Re: What FSH really means
Post by: tunnie on 01 August 2010, 12:34:24
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Never trust a garage again after seeing things they get up to on TV and have seen in real life.

Judgeing by that filter I would be tempted to check the cambelt out thats suppoed to have been changed.

Hence my comment on budgeting for cambelt on any replacement car, no matter what the service history says, i'd personally replace the whole kit for piece of mind
Title: Re: What FSH really means
Post by: PhilRich on 01 August 2010, 13:16:12
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If that is the date stamp then am assuming its 2003 march 5.00pm

Possibly then it was the one fitted when the car was built.

So what do Vx actually do on a service then apart from charge upwards of £50 Per hour.   :-X



£65 / hour here Skruntie! :o :o :'(
But then again, I only use them for parts when necessary, I use the OOF for the rest  ;D :y
Title: Re: What FSH really means
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 01 August 2010, 13:38:38
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If that is the date stamp then am assuming its 2003 march 5.00pm

Possibly then it was the one fitted when the car was built.

So what do Vx actually do on a service then apart from charge upwards of £50 Per hour.   :-X



£65 / hour here Skruntie! :o :o :'(
But then again, I only use them for parts when necessary, I use the OOF for the rest  ;D :y

I used £50 as a bit of an average from 2003 to 2010 over the age of TB's car, Hartwells in sheffild were £44 an hor 10 years ago.
Title: Re: What FSH really means
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 01 August 2010, 13:55:53
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If that is the date stamp then am assuming its 2003 march 5.00pm

Possibly then it was the one fitted when the car was built.

So what do Vx actually do on a service then apart from charge upwards of £50 Per hour.   :-X

It depends what service you ask them to do.....and sadly most just do a basic one each time.
Title: Re: What FSH really means
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 01 August 2010, 13:56:31
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Look at this air filter...

(http://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/TB3/air_filter/IMG_4862.JPG)


I was fairly surprised it was a GM one, so looked for a date stamp, is this a date stamp?

(http://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/TB3/air_filter/IMG_4861.JPG)

Yes, thats a date stamp.

It just shows what an original car you have got
Title: Re: What FSH really means
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 01 August 2010, 15:55:51
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If that is the date stamp then am assuming its 2003 march 5.00pm

Possibly then it was the one fitted when the car was built.

So what do Vx actually do on a service then apart from charge upwards of £50 Per hour.   :-X

It depends what service you ask them to do.....and sadly most just do a basic one each time.

Which in this case never included an air filer
possibly never included an oil filter.

So whats on a basic service, top up the water bottle and blow up the tyres. :-/
Title: Re: What FSH really means
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 01 August 2010, 16:01:05
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152655085

Just found this in the FAQ, has anyone ever posted the actual recomemnded service/miles listing.
Title: Re: What FSH really means
Post by: feeutfo on 01 August 2010, 16:26:14
Only 13k and 3 years over due....

Title: Re: What FSH really means
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 01 August 2010, 16:54:38
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Only 13k and 3 years over due....



Not much then. ::)
Title: Re: What FSH really means
Post by: dbug on 01 August 2010, 18:34:47
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Look at this air filter...



I was fairly surprised it was a GM one, so looked for a date stamp, is this a date stamp?


I'll have it if you don't want it anymore!! :) :) :) :) ;)
Title: Re: What FSH really means
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 01 August 2010, 18:47:10
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If that is the date stamp then am assuming its 2003 march 5.00pm

Possibly then it was the one fitted when the car was built.

So what do Vx actually do on a service then apart from charge upwards of £50 Per hour.   :-X

It depends what service you ask them to do.....and sadly most just do a basic one each time.

Which in this case never included an air filer
possibly never included an oil filter.

So whats on a basic service, top up the water bottle and blow up the tyres. :-/

Basic service is oil and filter plus an inspection
Title: Re: What FSH really means
Post by: TheBoy on 01 August 2010, 19:03:46
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Look at this air filter...

(http://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/TB3/air_filter/IMG_4862.JPG)


I was fairly surprised it was a GM one, so looked for a date stamp, is this a date stamp?

(http://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/TB3/air_filter/IMG_4861.JPG)

Yes, thats a date stamp.

It just shows what an original car you have got
I wonder if the oil filter was original ::)
Title: Re: What FSH really means
Post by: TheBoy on 01 August 2010, 19:04:47
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If that is the date stamp then am assuming its 2003 march 5.00pm

Possibly then it was the one fitted when the car was built.

So what do Vx actually do on a service then apart from charge upwards of £50 Per hour.   :-X

It depends what service you ask them to do.....and sadly most just do a basic one each time.

Which in this case never included an air filer
possibly never included an oil filter.

So whats on a basic service, top up the water bottle and blow up the tyres. :-/

I think they forgot on this one ::)
Title: Re: What FSH really means
Post by: Mr Hagon on 01 August 2010, 23:57:18
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So what do Vx actually do on a service then apart from charge upwards of £50 Per hour.   :-X
The stealer local to me would charge £80 p/h for a Vx and I believe £100 for an Alfa... :P
Title: Re: What FSH really means
Post by: TheBoy on 02 August 2010, 08:40:53
Those useless, lying, incompitient tosspots known as Evans Halshaw in Milton Keynes charge £95ph last time I checked.
Title: Re: What FSH really means
Post by: feeutfo on 02 August 2010, 10:30:04
Reading service dept and showroom was empty last time I went for parts, and a look at the insignia.

....soon left myself as 4 reps asked "do you need help sir" in the space of two minutes...."it's not me that needs bloody help mate...you've got no customers"
Title: Re: What FSH really means
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 02 August 2010, 10:30:39
When I last used Hartwekks in Sheffield they had my Carlton in for an accident repair after some woman ran into the back of me.

Whilst there I asked them to fir a N/S headlight lends Part was £11 plus vat and the job booked at 39 mins @ £22 Per hour labour.  Needles to say the job didnt get done so Iasked for it to be done while I was there, told him I had been told of the cost, so off they went to fit it.

Was presented with a bill of £11 for parts and £22 for labour, on protest I told him the job quoted 30 mins labour, he then daid, that was body shop labour rates, workshop labour rates are £44.


I got the job at at £22 PH in the end, but it just shows how easy it is to get conned.

If you hae to use a dealer, say for new locks or trim, allways worth trying the body shop for a quote 1st.
Title: Re: What FSH really means
Post by: omegaman2 on 02 August 2010, 12:25:01
when mine was still under the vx warrenty i got charged 100£ for an oil change 30£ for parts 70£for labour ,thank f22k i now do my own maintainence
Title: Re: What FSH really means
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 02 August 2010, 17:46:01
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when mine was still under the vx warrenty i got charged 100£ for an oil change 30£ for parts 70£for labour ,thank f22k i now do my own maintainence

100£ for an oil change
30£ for parts
70£for labour

One or the other but you have been charged twice there for an oil change, and both charged are excessive for an oil change.

You should have asked to see a manager.
Title: Re: What FSH really means
Post by: I_want_an_Omega on 03 August 2010, 22:52:14
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Look at this air filter...

(http://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/TB3/air_filter/IMG_4862.JPG)


I was fairly surprised it was a GM one, so looked for a date stamp, is this a date stamp?

(http://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/TB3/air_filter/IMG_4861.JPG)

Yes, thats a date stamp.

It just shows what an original car you have got
I wonder if the oil filter was original ::)

Usually black in colour and only fitted in the factory.
Title: Re: What FSH really means
Post by: Broomies Mate on 03 August 2010, 23:40:19
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when mine was still under the vx warrenty i got charged 100£ for an oil change 30£ for parts 70£for labour ,thank f22k i now do my own maintainence

100£ for an oil change
30£ for parts
70£for labour

One or the other but you have been charged twice there for an oil change, and both charged are excessive for an oil change.

You should have asked to see a manager.

Plus, why would warranty cover service items?  :-/

If Vx do it, I'll go buy an Insignia tomorrow.  Save me a fortune!  ;D
Title: Re: What FSH really means
Post by: kcl on 04 August 2010, 09:25:16
How can you tell when the filter was changed from the date stamp?  :o Naturally GM has produced a lot of filters with a certain date and you can still get new filters from GM with stamps from early 2000...
Title: Re: What FSH really means
Post by: Elite Pete on 04 August 2010, 09:25:50
I did a service on a 2000 2.5 V6 on Monday. The plugs in 2 4 6 were very old Vauxhall 2 prong ones the plugs in 1 3 5 were Bosch 4 prong ones, now thats very lazy >:(
Title: Re: What FSH really means
Post by: kcl on 04 August 2010, 09:30:36
when they started to install 4 prong ones? All facelift V6 are with 4 prongs? I know DBW's are all with them but are the others too?
Title: Re: What FSH really means
Post by: feeutfo on 04 August 2010, 10:31:21
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I did a service on a 2000 2.5 V6 on Monday. The plugs in 2 4 6 were very old Vauxhall 2 prong ones the plugs in 1 3 5 were Bosch 4 prong ones, now thats very lazy >:(
That just about sums it up Pete. I know an ex plod owner,with full vx service history,with same issue, and a plug disintegrated into the bore trashing that pot. >:(
Title: Re: What FSH really means
Post by: Jimbob on 04 August 2010, 10:34:52
When I first servied her car, 5 new plugs, 1 ancient one, in the hardest to get pot.  Vauxhall Dealer invoice for the job  :o

never again  :y