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Title: Nissan Almera MOT horror
Post by: cruisetopoland on 05 February 2010, 14:39:24
My (not interested in cars) mate has a very tidy Nissan Almera facelift on a 2000-X plate and took it for an MOT recently.  It failed on the normal bits like a bulb, wiper, brake imbalance etc, but the shocker was:

"Severe structural corrosion of the front cross member and chassis legs"

Now this is a 70k mile, near-mint, never crashed, known history car and to all intents and purposes looked brand new inside and out.

I have just seen the photos our farmer friend took while he stripped it and welded in the new cross member and they looked like something off an abandoned Morris Minor project, not a 2000 plate car-absolutely shocking  :o :o

When ordering the part, he was surprised that:
1/ several pattern parts were available
2/ the place had one in stock!

This suggested it was a regular problem with the Almeras-possibly due to frequent request for crash repair parts, but the MOT garage said it was likely that it been subjected to water damage or had had a blown rad and the hot water had affected the rustproofing.

Anyway, I was telling the story to Welung666 and said my mate's tidy X plate Almera had failed the MOT; guess what for?
He said "Front crossmember and chassis corrosion?-they're all like it!"

I was surprised to say the least  :o

So take note if buying an Almera 1999-2003.  Look first at the front chassis legs and cross-member, before anything else.  It cost (on mate's rates) £600 to get it through the MOT (including brakes etc)-nearly as much as the car was worth.

Lordy   :o :o :o :o :o

Title: Re: Nissan Almera MOT horror
Post by: waspy on 05 February 2010, 14:45:02
I had a Datsun 280ZX some years ago, half of the chassis was replaced by myself & work's steel plate ;D
Title: Re: Nissan Almera MOT horror
Post by: cruisetopoland on 05 February 2010, 14:47:54
Strange to get huge structural issues when the bodywork, sills, arches etc etc all absolutely perfect-no clues even to take a look  :(

I guess it is a manufacturing fault-the parts were not internally rust-proofed correctly at the factory and 10 years of wet and salt ate through...
Title: Re: Nissan Almera MOT horror
Post by: waspy on 05 February 2010, 14:56:29
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Strange to get huge structural issues when the bodywork, sills, arches etc etc all absolutely perfect-no clues even to take a look  :(

I guess it is a manufacturing fault-the parts were not internally rust-proofed correctly at the factory and 10 years of wet and salt ate through...

My mate just up the road bought an Escort diesel & the body was excellent, but the underneath was "well erm" really bad. He borrowed my welder to do the job, but gave up & sent it for scrap ;D
Title: Re: Nissan Almera MOT horror
Post by: tunnie on 05 February 2010, 16:31:13
Uh-oh, mother tunnies is a 2000 plate one  :'(
Title: Re: Nissan Almera MOT horror
Post by: cruisetopoland on 05 February 2010, 16:47:19
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Uh-oh, mother tunnies is a 2000 plate one  :'(

Go and have a look underneath  :y

Hope it is ok  :y
Title: Re: Nissan Almera MOT horror
Post by: Welung666 on 05 February 2010, 16:48:42
When you told me it had failed the MOT I told you what it had failed on didn't I G?

Did my sister-in-laws 2001 Y a few months back, it's every single one of them!
Title: Re: Nissan Almera MOT horror
Post by: cruisetopoland on 05 February 2010, 16:51:44
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When you told me it had failed the MOT I told you what it had failed on didn't I G?
Did my sister-in-laws 2001 Y a few months back, it's every single one of them!

As per original post above  :y :y :y
Title: Re: Nissan Almera MOT horror
Post by: Welung666 on 05 February 2010, 16:53:26
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When you told me it had failed the MOT I told you what it had failed on didn't I G?
Did my sister-in-laws 2001 Y a few months back, it's every single one of them!

As per original post above  :y :y :y

 :-[ Sorry only scanned through it ;D ;D I'm busy pretending to work at the same time ;)
Title: Re: Nissan Almera MOT horror
Post by: cruisetopoland on 05 February 2010, 16:55:01
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When you told me it had failed the MOT I told you what it had failed on didn't I G?
Did my sister-in-laws 2001 Y a few months back, it's every single one of them!

As per original post above  :y :y :y

 :-[ Sorry only scanned through it ;D ;D I'm busy pretending to work at the same time ;)

You too?  8-) 8-)
Title: Re: Nissan Almera MOT horror
Post by: SillyBilly on 04 August 2010, 16:54:50
Blimey!
My daughter's 03 Almera has exactly this problem - virtually the whole of the front cross member has gone.  Anyone know the part number and cost.  Is it a bolt-on or bold-on and weld job?
 :(
Title: Re: Nissan Almera MOT horror
Post by: Del Boy on 04 August 2010, 16:57:56
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Blimey!
My daughter's 03 Almera has exactly this problem - virtually the whole of the front cross member has gone.  Anyone know the part number and cost.  Is it a bolt-on or bold-on and weld job?
 :(
Here you go mate £38  :y

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NISSAN-ALMERA-2000-2006-FRONT-CROSS-MEMBER-/200504355280?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2eaefda9d0
Title: Re: Nissan Almera MOT horror
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 04 August 2010, 17:11:21
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I had a Datsun 280ZX some years ago, half of the chassis was replaced by myself & work's steel plate ;D


Ah yes, the early Japanese cars that were built for the UK market but complying with Japanese specification that didn't allow for our wet climate!  As I understand it that is why few are left ::) ::)
Title: Re: Nissan Almera MOT horror
Post by: Ken T on 04 August 2010, 23:11:32
Yes, My Datsun 100A front cross section and subframe went.

Its an engineering fault, they forgot to fit the small oil leak present in all proper Mini's, which stops the front subframe rusting.

Ken
Title: Re: Nissan Almera MOT horror
Post by: omegod on 05 August 2010, 12:23:15
They are chronic for timing chain stretch too, basically a crap car.
Title: Re: Nissan Almera MOT horror
Post by: SeedyV6 on 05 August 2010, 13:25:24
I had a 96 saloon that i bought as a stop gap when finances were bad. in fact the mother in law is still driving it today. Both sills at the rear have rusted, nearside was just surface but the drivers side me and my old man welded up. As far as the front goes, it did need a repair but that was because it had scraped going on and off the drive at our old house. I replaced the starter motor - 75 quid exchange from the local factors as opposed to 280 notes from a nissan stealer  :o. Horrible seats making long journeys uncomfortable, a heater that was all or nothing, and interesting handling characteristics when pressing on, especially in the wet  :D but the engine and box were (still) sweet as a nut. They just need plenty of oil changes. so, the same as any other motor really  ;)
Title: Re: Nissan Almera MOT horror
Post by: Sixstring on 06 August 2010, 10:47:31
OOOH!

Avoid like the plague, then.

NEARLY bought a really low mileage one as a stop-gap whilst looking for my miggy, glad I didn't now, reading this.
Title: Re: Nissan Almera MOT horror
Post by: Seth on 17 August 2010, 12:42:39
A mate's MOT station presently has one in having the complete front crossmember being changed.
 :D
Title: Re: Nissan Almera MOT horror
Post by: aaronjb on 17 August 2010, 13:17:21
I swear it's built in obsolescence.. The MR2 Roadster is the same; the rear subframe (the main crossmember that the engine and all suspension components bolt to) turns into swiss cheese after 10 years or less - the welds turn into giant bubbles of rust that slowly expand until you can fit your hand through there..

That's one way of ensuring people scrap their cars regularly, I suppose!