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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: omegadan67 on 16 August 2010, 08:29:17
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the Sintra has died engine has left the vehicle. So on to getting another 7/8seater, either ford galaxy or vw sharan has anybody got any experiance of running them any known problems (apart from not being a omega) are the auto boxes on the diesels any good dont fancy a petrol not with the cost and my other car drinking super unleaded like water
are they comfortable ?
thanks
DAN
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So on to getting another 7/8seater, either ford galaxy or vw sharan
My Father in law has a Sharan and it has been reliable in the 12 months he has had it. My Daughter enjoys travelling in it, probably due mostly to the fact it has a roof mounted D.V.D. player as standard.
You know the Galaxy and the Sharan are the same vehicle behind the badges? Have you considered the Alambrah, they may be a cheaper alternative due to the Seat badge but, again, they are the same vehicle underneath.
Also the Zafira is quite a versatile M.P.V. have you given that any consideration?
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So on to getting another 7/8seater, either ford galaxy or vw sharan
My Father in law has a Sharan and it has been reliable in the 12 months he has had it. My Daughter enjoys travelling in it, probably due mostly to the fact it has a roof mounted D.V.D. player as standard.
You know the Galaxy and the Sharan are the same vehicle behind the badges? Have you considered the Alambrah, they may be a cheaper alternative due to the Seat badge but, again, they are the same vehicle underneath.
Also the Zafira is quite a versatile M.P.V. have you given that any consideration?
I agree they are great MPV's and a pleasure to drive.
Also I would try the Toyota Sienna LE's, 8 seater MPV's, which I loved when in the US and I think are available in the UK. Really lovely, powerful vehicles, with much space for a family or almost any load you need to carry! :-* :-* 8-)
The Sienna (US version):
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8-) 8-) ;) ;)
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Dad drives a Seat Alhambra automatic TD. One thing to watch is the type of oil used in VW range of cars with the turbo diesel engine, the oil is incredibly expensive, and even the forums do not recommend an alternative. Sorry cannot rmember what the oil spec is at the moment (at work) also auto box oil is funny again.
And yes the new ones suffer from failing auto boxes just like the older one. Also watch for electric windows and central locking not working on individual doors, usual is broken wires between door and door post.
Unless you have a very young child avoid the built in baby seat, it is horribly uncomfortabe when folded down for anyone else to use.
I find build quality not up to standard, and unless under 3 years old expect no help from dealers.
If you have to remove a door panel for access to window motor etc, you will break some clips, not to bad as they do glue back on, but certainly a problem.
Also be very wary if it does not have a radio fitted. It took us months to get one that just plugs in.
Personally I would avoid the Alhambra/Sharon. Might go for newer Galaxy as not the same as VW base.
HTH
This site is quite useful http://www.fordgalaxy.org.uk/ford/index.php?act=idx
Sorry if it breaks rules in posting links to another forum.
I have found some good info on the site for Dad.
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I had a Sintra once, did you know they were assembled in the US - Atlanta to be precise?
The Galaxy/Sharan/Alhambra all use the VW 1.9 Tdi engine. It's essential that the correct oil is used otherwise turbo failure may resut which costs a fortune.
Other big ticket ££ fix items are the climate control and wiper motor assembly. Each of which are pains to fix and cost a fortune with breakers being aware of the value of these parts too.
On the plus side, my Bro has a T reg Galaxy Tdi with 200k miles on it.
The newer Galaxy and S Max are good but a bit pricy still.
Zafira is good too, but the early ones had a really bad gear change.
HTH.
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Does it have to be 7 or 8 seater?we run a Fiat multipla 6 seater had it about 6 years now at 150k cheap to service (yourself) a bit like the omega oil and filters and it seems to keep going and bags of room inside .
We like it that much as a family car we have just done clutch and dmf at this mileage! all 6 six seats are full size and rear are removable in any configuration only thing it eats really are suspension link bars approx £18 dead easy to do but just as well as you change them quite often (not an mot fail but causes a knock over bumps) look for diesel jtd 115bhp
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I've had 2 Zafiras, an "02" 2.0DTi and and "08" 1.9TDCi. Both nice cars but a bit tight for space if you've got a full load; passengers 6 and 7 need to be small children really and then you'll need a roofbox for the luggage!
The newer one wasn't as good on fuel as I'd expected and tended to have more things go wrong so, if you're on a budget, I would say the old model maybe the better bet. I never had any problems with the gearchange so perhaps they'd sorted it out by then.
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Does it have to be 7 or 8 seater?we run a Fiat multipla 6 seater had it about 6 years now at 150k cheap to service (yourself) a bit like the omega oil and filters and it seems to keep going and bags of room inside .
We like it that much as a family car we have just done clutch and dmf at this mileage! all 6 six seats are full size and rear are removable in any configuration only thing it eats really are suspension link bars approx £18 dead easy to do but just as well as you change them quite often (not an mot fail but causes a knock over bumps) look for diesel jtd 115bhp
Fiat multipla's are really unsafe, check the euro ncap rating :o
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Does it have to be 7 or 8 seater?we run a Fiat multipla 6 seater had it about 6 years now at 150k cheap to service (yourself) a bit like the omega oil and filters and it seems to keep going and bags of room inside .
We like it that much as a family car we have just done clutch and dmf at this mileage! all 6 six seats are full size and rear are removable in any configuration only thing it eats really are suspension link bars approx £18 dead easy to do but just as well as you change them quite often (not an mot fail but causes a knock over bumps) look for diesel jtd 115bhp
Fiat multipla's are really unsafe, check the euro ncap rating :o
Any Fiat is a bomb scare ;D ;D
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thank you all for the replies,yes it does need to be at least 7 seats due to there being 6 of us and 2 in child seats i dont think the zafira woud suit our needs rear 2 seats need to be decent our kids range from 6 months to a tall for her age 11 year old.
We looked at a fiat multipa but found it not to our liking the 2 rows of 3 seats dont suit our needs plus imo they are ugly suckers.
the sintra was great sliding rear doors made getting in and out very easy,plus even with the 7 seats in use there was still space behind for shopping or pushchairs, i would have another just cant find one with a diesel engine younger than 99/t as they only made then for 3 years and only 326 diesels in the last year
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Does it have to be 7 or 8 seater?we run a Fiat multipla 6 seater had it about 6 years now at 150k cheap to service (yourself) a bit like the omega oil and filters and it seems to keep going and bags of room inside .
We like it that much as a family car we have just done clutch and dmf at this mileage! all 6 six seats are full size and rear are removable in any configuration only thing it eats really are suspension link bars approx £18 dead easy to do but just as well as you change them quite often (not an mot fail but causes a knock over bumps) look for diesel jtd 115bhp
Fiat multipla's are really unsafe, check the euro ncap rating :o
Just checked the rating and its the same as an omega 3 stars adults and two stars pedestrians?? :o :o :o
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Does it have to be 7 or 8 seater?we run a Fiat multipla 6 seater had it about 6 years now at 150k cheap to service (yourself) a bit like the omega oil and filters and it seems to keep going and bags of room inside .
We like it that much as a family car we have just done clutch and dmf at this mileage! all 6 six seats are full size and rear are removable in any configuration only thing it eats really are suspension link bars approx £18 dead easy to do but just as well as you change them quite often (not an mot fail but causes a knock over bumps) look for diesel jtd 115bhp
Fiat multipla's are really unsafe, check the euro ncap rating :o
Just checked the rating and its the same as an omega 3 stars adults and two stars pedestrians?? :o :o :o
Omega is 4 stars if it has side airbags, but the Multipla is awful for drivers and front seat passengers apparently some of the person is in red :o
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Chrysler Grand Voyager would be my choice :y
(http://www.cleverdons.net/content/cars_examples/image_estate_chrysler_grand_voyager.jpg)
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When I looked at MPV's I found the bast of the bunch was the Mitsubishi but, the running costs were 'off putting'.
If going Galaxy/Sheran route then dont, get the Alhambra!
As for the CMax....its ride is just to harsh and its not that large and the diesels are a bit 'peeky' which is not good for something of Mondeo plus weight.
The grand voyagers are ok but handling is naff, reliability poor and they drink like Mick Dundee at a Tenants free tasting session.
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Voyagers are really unsafe too, for a car I'd be driving my family in I'd want the safest my budget would allow.
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What about a Defender 110?
You have bench seats in the rear most part with proper seat belts, and still plenty of room for luggage etc.
It will be a slow old girl, and newer one's are expensive but if none of the MPV's are any good...I'd probably consider one of those.
Or, there's the Transit Tourneo? I think they're also particularly good. You can get an 8 seat version, Tourneo's come with air con, electric windows, elec mirrors, most with alloys. It depends on what age you go for whether that be the 1996 to 2000 model, or the next generation 2000 to 2006, but if the MPV's are just that bit too small, it seems the next step.
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What about a Defender 110?
You have bench seats in the rear most part with proper seat belts, and still plenty of room for luggage etc.
It will be a slow old girl, and newer one's are expensive but if none of the MPV's are any good...I'd probably consider one of those.
Or, there's the Transit Tourneo? I think they're also particularly good. You can get an 8 seat version, Tourneo's come with air con, electric windows, elec mirrors, most with alloys. It depends on what age you go for whether that be the 1996 to 2000 model, or the next generation 2000 to 2006, but if the MPV's are just that bit too small, it seems the next step.
Yes please could tow a train with all the family and as strong as an ox, all the ones ive seen 110 station/safari's cost twice as much as a mpv and over 10 years old though if 1 comes up and its the right price i woul take over any other vehicle this side of a winnibago
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ok just to update people i have today brought a 2002 ford galaxy 1.9 tdi 115 bhp 95,000 full service histroy 2 owner very clean and tidy and after haggling £3200 with 12 month warrenty 6 months tax 12 mot and a tank of fuel
I think i did quite well pick it up tuesday so pics to follow
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I think i did quite well...
And, at the end of the day, thats all that matters!!
Good luck with the new purchase, I hope it provides you with safe, reliable, transportation for as long as you own it.
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Citroen C4 Grande Picasso 1.6 hdi. 7 decent seats, quite nippy and easy 45+ in diesel. Typical of 7 seaters though, not much boot if all seats in use, actually 'not much' is an understatement.... :)