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Title: Rear Shocks How-to
Post by: PhilRich on 19 September 2010, 14:24:45
Can I take this opportunity to Thank JesterRT for his excellent guide in the Maintenance Section ;) I couldn't have done the job without it! :y :y
This is just one small instance of why the OOF is the really Great place it is. :-*
Title: Re: Rear Shocks How-to
Post by: Dave Elite on 19 September 2010, 21:54:29
I'm glad it helped, but its pretty p*ss easy. ;D
Title: Re: Rear Shocks How-to
Post by: davethediver on 19 September 2010, 23:53:58
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I'm glad it helped, but its pretty p*ss easy. ;D

As are so many things in life IF you know what your doing, never anything wrong with a little helping hand ;)
Title: Re: Rear Shocks How-to
Post by: Dave Elite on 20 September 2010, 00:03:23
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I'm glad it helped, but its pretty p*ss easy. ;D

As are so many things in life IF you know what your doing, never anything wring with a little helping hand ;)
Didnt say there was, I was just surprised anyone could need a guide to do that job. ;)
Title: Re: Rear Shocks How-to
Post by: davethediver on 20 September 2010, 00:13:08
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I'm glad it helped, but its pretty p*ss easy. ;D

As are so many things in life IF you know what your doing, never anything wring with a little helping hand ;)
Didnt say there was, I was just surprised anyone could need a guide to do that job. ;)

The same could be said for a lot of jobs that there are how too's for, many on here know very little about cars and mechanic's as such, hence the reason they join.  :y
Title: Re: Rear Shocks How-to
Post by: Dave Elite on 20 September 2010, 00:27:13
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I'm glad it helped, but its pretty p*ss easy. ;D

As are so many things in life IF you know what your doing, never anything wring with a little helping hand ;)
Didnt say there was, I was just surprised anyone could need a guide to do that job. ;)

The same could be said for a lot of jobs that there are how too's for, many on here know very little about cars and mechanic's as such, hence the reason they join.  :y
I'm still  surprised anyone could need a guide to do that job :y
Title: Re: Rear Shocks How-to
Post by: davethediver on 20 September 2010, 00:50:05
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I'm glad it helped, but its pretty p*ss easy. ;D

As are so many things in life IF you know what your doing, never anything wring with a little helping hand ;)
Didnt say there was, I was just surprised anyone could need a guide to do that job. ;)

The same could be said for a lot of jobs that there are how too's for, many on here know very little about cars and mechanic's as such, hence the reason they join.  :y
I'm still  surprised anyone could need a guide to do that job :y

Phils not that good when it comes to cars though only managed to fit his own LPG ::) maybe as the post stated he was just giving thanks to what the idea behind OOF actually was/is  :-X :-X
Title: Re: Rear Shocks How-to
Post by: gstylebaby on 20 September 2010, 05:34:27
Any guide i always think is better than non. :y :y
Title: Re: Rear Shocks How-to
Post by: Dave Elite on 20 September 2010, 12:52:37
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Can I take this opportunity to Thank JesterRT for his excellent guide in the Maintenance Section ;) I couldn't have done the job without it! :y :y
This is just one small instance of why the OOF is the really Great place it is. :-*
Thats the bit that got me. Bet he could
Title: Re: Rear Shocks How-to
Post by: kcl on 20 September 2010, 12:57:41
There is no such thing as useless guide. There is always something, even with the smallest and easiest operations, that you may like to share with others. Even listing the tools, torques etc and esp in this case, e.g. giving a hint where to find the top bolts (on an estate they are under little covers)
Title: Re: Rear Shocks How-to
Post by: JesterRT on 20 September 2010, 13:06:47
Glad it helped :)

It is pretty easy, but as with most things - it's nicer to start a job having seen what's coming.  The other bits and pieces I've done on the cars I've had (which haven't been particularly adventurous - radiator swaps, cam cover gaskets, suspension arms, springs, water pumps, and a few others) I'd all say were easy(ish) - but only after I've finished them.  And every time I've gone through the jobs they're pretty logical and I probably could have (and did on several occasions) manage without a guide, but I've only got to that point by using guides to gain the confidence to actually venture out a bit more.  Whether it's Haynes, a few lines of text or, in my opinion the best kind which are photographed by real people doing the jobs on their drive without full workshop facilities I'd be still sending my cars to be ripped off by the local garage for doing the 'easy' jobs.
Title: Re: Rear Shocks How-to
Post by: Dave Elite on 20 September 2010, 13:30:47
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Can I take this opportunity to Thank JesterRT for his excellent guide in the Maintenance Section ;) I couldn't have done the job without it! :y :y
This is just one small instance of why the OOF is the really Great place it is. :-*
once again, this is the bit that got me. And I'll say it again. Bet he could
Title: Re: Rear Shocks How-to
Post by: Entwood on 20 September 2010, 13:45:18
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Can I take this opportunity to Thank JesterRT for his excellent guide in the Maintenance Section ;) I couldn't have done the job without it! :y :y
This is just one small instance of why the OOF is the really Great place it is. :-*
once again, this is the bit that got me. And I'll say it again. Bet he could


As you have no information regarding his abilities, previous knowledge, tool availability etc etc .. you canot really make such a claim.

YOU might be able to do things by guesswork .. many others of us lack the ability to read the minds of designers/enginers, and so welcome guides, no matter how mundane they appear to you.

I would suggest that a 7 year old would be unable to change a set of sparkplugs on a Morris Minor without guidance... once given that guidance may well enble that person to change the plugs on a ford cortina when aged 22 .. as they have LEARNED how to do the job ..

Now I have changed a set of wishbones, a set of track rod ends, and a pair of drop links .. yes, I could do thoswe jobs AGAIN without guidance ... but certainly not the FIRST time.

Not all of us are "experts", although many on the forum like to think they are.
Title: Re: Rear Shocks How-to
Post by: PhilRich on 20 September 2010, 15:50:27
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Glad it helped :)

It is pretty easy, but as with most things - it's nicer to start a job having seen what's coming.  The other bits and pieces I've done on the cars I've had (which haven't been particularly adventurous - radiator swaps, cam cover gaskets, suspension arms, springs, water pumps, and a few others) I'd all say were easy(ish) - but only after I've finished them.  And every time I've gone through the jobs they're pretty logical and I probably could have (and did on several occasions) manage without a guide, but I've only got to that point by using guides to gain the confidence to actually venture out a bit more.  Whether it's Haynes, a few lines of text or, in my opinion the best kind which are photographed by real people doing the jobs on their drive without full workshop facilities I'd be still sending my cars to be ripped off by the local garage for doing the 'easy' jobs.




Exactly my line of thinking too  :y & that's why I offered my sincere & well deserved thanks! I've spent very little time taking cars to bits since my early twenties, in Nineteen Hundred and Oh My God Ago! so any help in keeping my old girl on the road at least cost, but best working practice, is like Gold Dust to myself & others like me.  :y :y
Title: Re: Rear Shocks How-to
Post by: Dave Elite on 20 September 2010, 15:56:34
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Can I take this opportunity to Thank JesterRT for his excellent guide in the Maintenance Section ;) I couldn't have done the job without it! :y :y
This is just one small instance of why the OOF is the really Great place it is. :-*
once again, this is the bit that got me. And I'll say it again. Bet he could


As you have no information regarding his abilities, previous knowledge, tool availability etc etc .. you canot really make such a claim.
YOU might be able to do things by guesswork .. many others of us lack the ability to read the minds of designers/enginers, and so welcome guides, no matter how mundane they appear to you.

I would suggest that a 7 year old would be unable to change a set of sparkplugs on a Morris Minor without guidance... once given that guidance may well enble that person to change the plugs on a ford cortina when aged 22 .. as they have LEARNED how to do the job ..

Now I have changed a set of wishbones, a set of track rod ends, and a pair of drop links .. yes, I could do thoswe jobs AGAIN without guidance ... but certainly not the FIRST time.

Not all of us are "experts", although many on the forum like to think they are.
I'm not making any claims, but I'll say it again if it will help you. Bet he could.
Title: Re: Rear Shocks How-to
Post by: PhilRich on 20 September 2010, 16:07:26
Bloody Hell Dave, if you're like this when you're sober...........(whisper) you are sober, arent you mate? ;D ;D ;) :y
Title: Re: Rear Shocks How-to
Post by: Dave Elite on 20 September 2010, 16:13:27
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Bloody Hell Dave, if you're like this when you're sober...........(whisper) you are sober, arent you mate? ;D ;D ;) :y
Ha ha :y I'm just trying to make one point, and people keep rambling on about other things.  :y My point is, I bet you could have done it wthout the guide. Not seven year olds, not blind people, and not monkeys, you :y
Title: Re: Rear Shocks How-to
Post by: DodgeyDave on 20 September 2010, 17:59:23
I also found the guide (along with others) very useful, normally i would have just gone to a garage for a job like this because i don't have all day to spend under my car trying to figure it out, but if I know how straight forward it is then i'll do it myself.

Thanks, and keep the guides coming.
Title: Re: Rear Shocks How-to
Post by: Dave Elite on 20 September 2010, 18:19:16
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I also found the guide (along with others) very useful, normally i would have just gone to a garage for a job like this because i don't have all day to spend under my car trying to figure it out, but if I know how straight forward it is then i'll do it myself.
Even though you have missed my point againI doubt is would take all day to work out the you need to take one bolt and one nut off ;D
Thanks, and keep the guides coming.
Title: Re: Rear Shocks How-to
Post by: Dave Elite on 20 September 2010, 18:20:22
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I also found the guide (along with others) very useful, normally i would have just gone to a garage for a job like this because i don't have all day to spend under my car trying to figure it out, but if I know how straight forward it is then i'll do it myself.

Thanks, and keep the guides coming.
Even though you have missed my point again I doubt it would take all day to work out the you need to take one bolt and one nut off ;D
Title: Re: Rear Shocks How-to
Post by: PhilRich on 20 September 2010, 18:23:21
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I also found the guide (along with others) very useful, normally i would have just gone to a garage for a job like this because i don't have all day to spend under my car trying to figure it out, but if I know how straight forward it is then i'll do it myself.

Thanks, and keep the guides coming.
Even though you have missed my point again I doubt it would take all day to work out the you need to take one bolt and one nut off ;D
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Title: Re: Rear Shocks How-to
Post by: TheBoy on 20 September 2010, 18:51:14
I suspect any abled body could do any job on the Omega.

The point of the guides is to give confidence, and also point out gotchas or easier ways of doing things.  All guides are useful to someone, be it changing oil, or changing a little end.


To the OP, I'm glad you found the guide useful. To those mocking the OP and the 'easier' guides on here, if you don't find them useful, thats your choice ;)
Title: Re: Rear Shocks How-to
Post by: Andy B on 20 September 2010, 19:26:55
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I suspect any abled body could do any job on the Omega.

The point of the guides is to give confidence, and also point out gotchas or easier ways of doing things.  All guides are useful to someone, be it changing oil, or changing a little end.


To the OP, I'm glad you found the guide useful. To those mocking the OP and the 'easier' guides on here, if you don't find them useful, thats your choice ;)

I find most spanner work quite easy, but I still often like to have a look at what's involved before I think about getting my spanners out. I wish there were some how-to-do's for this Smart of SWMBO. I could do with one for the timing chain.  ;)  ;)  :y
Title: Re: Rear Shocks How-to
Post by: Dave Elite on 20 September 2010, 19:28:32
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I suspect any abled body could do any job on the Omega.

The point of the guides is to give confidence, and also point out gotchas or easier ways of doing things.  All guides are useful to someone, be it changing oil, or changing a little end.


To the OP, I'm glad you found the guide useful. To those mocking the OP and the 'easier' guides on here, if you don't find them useful, thats your choice ;)
I did niether, go back and read it again.  :y
Title: Re: Rear Shocks How-to
Post by: mantagte on 20 September 2010, 19:31:51


I find most spanner work quite easy, but I still often like to have a look at what's involved before I think about getting my spanners out. I wish there were some how-to-do's for this Smart of SWMBO. I could do with one for the timing chain.  ;)  ;)  :y
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Title: Re: Rear Shocks How-to
Post by: Andy B on 20 September 2010, 19:33:59
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gallon of petrol and a match

Sorry ...... I missed 'Roadster' out, I doubt you've driven one if that's you're opinion of them.  ;)  ;)  ;)
Title: Re: Rear Shocks How-to
Post by: mantagte on 20 September 2010, 19:37:32
yes have driven one they do drive nice

the gallon of petrol and a match was for repairing them
Title: Re: Rear Shocks How-to
Post by: Andy B on 20 September 2010, 19:48:18
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yes have driven one they do drive nice

the gallon of petrol and a match was for repairing them

Ah! I see  ;)  ;)  ;) They're not the easiest of cars to get at anything. Key hole surgery springs to mind  :y
Title: Re: Rear Shocks How-to
Post by: TheBoy on 20 September 2010, 20:47:01
I quite like both the Smarts and the Roadsters. Both take some getting used to though - quirky!
Title: Re: Rear Shocks How-to
Post by: mantagte on 20 September 2010, 20:56:34
my main  problem with them both is i'm 6 foot 4 and weigh 265 lbs
they were not designed for my slightly large dimensions :-/
Title: Re: Rear Shocks How-to
Post by: Psychoca on 20 September 2010, 21:36:27
The guides for everything I personally feel and found (with the relevant ones I have used) are very easy to use, even for the basic jobs that may need doing.

Personally I have found that usig the guides I have managed to complete jobs that otherwise, I would not have carried out, such as changing the clutch...

The guide for removal of the alternator belt for the TD is invaluable due to the ease of removal of the main pulley, which is completely different to TIS, Vx, BMW (Being the BMW engine) and another way I used...

There is a lot of time put in by those who have written/write the "How To's" and even on a basic job, come in useful, such as being able to see exactly what is involved before undertaking the job at hand, which if you are not a mechanic, gives a clear picture of what you are most likely to see...

I know that without OOF and its Maintenance guides, I would have been forced to part company with my Mig a long time ago, due to the cost of paying someone to do the work for me...  Thankfully, purely because OOF exists, with the exception of the clutch, I have been able to get relaveant assistance diagnosing and correcting faults without having to replace any parts, except for a bulb, in over 12 months of motoring...  Purely because of the OOF Maintenance guides, I personally saved over 200 quid by being able to replace the clutch myself...

I won't say that my Mig runs or handles perfectly as I know that some things are in desparate need of replacement, but, they are purely down to my current lack of work situation, again these jobs I know will be done with the assistance of the guides...
Title: Re: Rear Shocks How-to
Post by: Andy B on 20 September 2010, 21:36:53
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my main  problem with them both is i'm 6 foot 4 and weigh 265 lbs
they were not designed for my slightly large dimensions :-/

You sure? ::) A friend of mine who owns a Smart Roadster does weights, is 6' 2" & weighs 23st and his sparring partner is similarly proportioned  :y  :y  :y
Title: Re: Rear Shocks How-to
Post by: mantagte on 20 September 2010, 22:09:12
its possible but i just cant get comfortable
and i do like my comfort ;D