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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: feeutfo on 24 September 2010, 22:23:55
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Thinking of painting it black, always wanted black, but the right one never came up, will be a professional job.
HPI, notifies of a colour change. Will it devalue the car? guessing so, not that it's worth a great deal anyway. Can I expect a pull from the police if dvla not notified, or even if they are?
Bound to be signs of original lighter colour in boot and engine bay etc, which would put me off as a buyer :(
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Chris, see if you can find your V5C. Section 7 is where you fill in the bit about colour change. Section 7.29.
I know you've got someone who's done work for you in the past, but the guy I use is excellent and cheap for paint work...so if you need a quote or anything just let me know :y
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will always be dirty no matter how frequently you clean :-/
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Unless your getting, boot, door shuts, under bonnet and everything done don't bother, I'd walk away, straight away. It'll put people off because it'll be on HPI and they'll wonder whether it's been in a smack and been painted a different colour. ANPR probably wouldn' bother, but they may do, and it's not worth the risk.
Leave it as it is, show me some pictures if you want to sell it :y
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Josh PM on route mate :y
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Whats wrong with Silver? I do accept that 'oyster' does sound a bit wanky, and looks every bit as gay as 'champayne'
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if you tell dvla the old bill cant do anythin, :y
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if you tell dvla the old bill cant do anythin, :y
But HPI will put people off.
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I would have thought people are free to paint their cars whatever colour?
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I would have thought people are free to paint their cars whatever colour?
Yes, but HPI will know of a colour change if DVLA are told, if people see something flag up on HPI 70% of people will walk away. It's the law you have to tell the DVLA too.
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if its a 59 plate car i can understand the concern.as stated, the only other downside is the bits you cannot paint will always show the original colour.
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Chirs, knowing your car fairly well...if you sold it without the Irmscher stuff but kept the CID in there, I would try and sell it for £2995, you could always try £3250. I saw one similiar to yours, but with 120,000 miles sell for £2050 at auction needing some work to the bodywork and the emission light was on.
I'm not overly keen on the Oyster colour, and think your car would look much better in black...but I'd be hesitant in doing it, it is a lot of work.
But, it's a car you know well, and it already is LPG'd so I see the point in keeping it and changing the colour.
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if its a 59 plate car i can understand the concern.as stated, the only other downside is the bits you cannot paint will always show the original colour.
Any car I'd buy be it 30 years old or 3 months old, I'd expect a matching colour and nothing on HPI :y But that is just my personal preference.
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Say the car is worth £3k. When you come to sell it, you'll only be selling to someone who WANTS an Omega. They wont be bothered about the colour change. Theyll be more interested in the vital stuff.
I'd still advise you against it, as you'll open the bonnet one day and still see the Oyster. Unless you are going to pay silly money to have the thing painted from the ground upwards, dont bother.
Mine is the most terrible of colours (Gay Champagne) and I wouldn't even consider changing the colour.
Depends on your taste, but have you considered two-toning the car? Something like a deep blue beneath the moldings would give it individuality and break up the mundane colour.
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Is anyone else humming the Stones song in their head, or is it just me...? ::) ;D
If you're planning on keeping it, I'd say go for the respray. If you're as car-proud as I am, I'd take up Josh's offer (a good sprayer is hard to come across, and if he gets Josh's seal of approval, that's more than good enough for me given the amount of metal he shifts!)
As for the queries around HPI flagging up colour-changes - we have to face facts that Omega's are not new cars, and prices are in bargain-basement territory, so potential buyers are a) unlikely to bother with an HPI check, and b) not likely to be that bothered if it's been resprayed to a high-standard.
But I would take plenty of date-stamped pictures before-hand to prove that the respray/colour change wasn't as a result of accident-damage or anything malicious
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and another problem you need to take out many parts (for painting you will mostly prefer summer and it will be hot) and when you put them together you cant torque them like in cold and they will make awful noises.. imo definitely avoid.. sell the car and buy a black one..
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Is anyone else humming the Stones song in their head, or is it just me...? ::) ;D
If you're planning on keeping it, I'd say go for the respray. If you're as car-proud as I am, I'd take up Josh's offer (a good sprayer is hard to come across, and if he gets Josh's seal of approval, that's more than good enough for me given the amount of metal he shifts!)
As for the queries around HPI flagging up colour-changes - we have to face facts that Omega's are not new cars, and prices are in bargain-basement territory, so potential buyers are a) unlikely to bother with an HPI check, and b) not likely to be that bothered if it's been resprayed to a high-standard.
But I would take plenty of date-stamped pictures before-hand to prove that the respray/colour change wasn't as a result of accident-damage or anything malicious
Good point :y
Personaly would never buy a car without at least checking hpi for theft, finance outstanding or accident damage, so colour change would flash up and, again personally, would put me off. ...but am I going to sell it? not anytime soon. :-/
Interesting points....
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sorry for the language but this may be a practical solution.. ;D
http://www.birkamask.com/karbon-fiber-kaplama.html
seriously as people here prefer light colors they turn mostly to white or silver :-/
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and another problem you need to take out many parts (for painting you will mostly prefer summer and it will be hot) and when you put them together you cant torque them like in cold and they will make awful noises.. imo definitely avoid.. sell the car and buy a black one..
Been waiting 3 years for 03 3.2auto low miles elite saloon in black with black leather. Not a peep. Some black ones, but older or more miles than mine with LPG fitted, which if I am to remove and re fit LPG to another car, it really sholud be a car worthy of the aggro involved in removing and re fitting LPG kit.
I even stopped some poor old fella driving such a car out of a supermarket car park and asked if he wanted to sell, I was ever so polite and softly spoken, but he looked at me as if I was about to car Jack him ;D bit too excited maybe :D
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and another problem you need to take out many parts (for painting you will mostly prefer summer and it will be hot) and when you put them together you cant torque them like in cold and they will make awful noises.. imo definitely avoid.. sell the car and buy a black one..
Been waiting 3 years for 03 3.2auto low miles elite saloon in black with black leather. Not a peep. Some black ones, but older or more miles than mine with LPG fitted, which if I am to remove and re fit LPG to another car, it really sholud be a car worthy of the aggro involved in removing and re fitting LPG kit.
I even stopped some poor old fella driving such a car out of a supermarket car park and asked if he wanted to sell, I was ever so polite and softly spoken, but he looked at me as if I was about to car Jack him ;D bit too excited maybe :D
if you want that much go on.. but imo its really big trouble.. :-/
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and another problem you need to take out many parts (for painting you will mostly prefer summer and it will be hot) and when you put them together you cant torque them like in cold and they will make awful noises.. imo definitely avoid.. sell the car and buy a black one..
Been waiting 3 years for 03 3.2auto low miles elite saloon in black with black leather. Not a peep. Some black ones, but older or more miles than mine with LPG fitted, which if I am to remove and re fit LPG to another car, it really sholud be a car worthy of the aggro involved in removing and re fitting LPG kit.
I even stopped some poor old fella driving such a car out of a supermarket car park and asked if he wanted to sell, I was ever so polite and softly spoken, but he looked at me as if I was about to car Jack him ;D bit too excited maybe :D
if you want that much go on.. but imo its really big trouble.. :-/
Black vxr 8 will probably come along before black 3.2 :'(
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and another problem you need to take out many parts (for painting you will mostly prefer summer and it will be hot) and when you put them together you cant torque them like in cold and they will make awful noises.. imo definitely avoid.. sell the car and buy a black one..
Been waiting 3 years for 03 3.2auto low miles elite saloon in black with black leather. Not a peep. Some black ones, but older or more miles than mine with LPG fitted, which if I am to remove and re fit LPG to another car, it really sholud be a car worthy of the aggro involved in removing and re fitting LPG kit.
I even stopped some poor old fella driving such a car out of a supermarket car park and asked if he wanted to sell, I was ever so polite and softly spoken, but he looked at me as if I was about to car Jack him ;D bit too excited maybe :D
if you want that much go on.. but imo its really big trouble.. :-/
Black vxr 8 will probably come along before black 3.2 :'(
But yes I do take your point.
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Nice black estate in the for sale section ... :)
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and another problem you need to take out many parts (for painting you will mostly prefer summer and it will be hot) and when you put them together you cant torque them like in cold and they will make awful noises.. imo definitely avoid.. sell the car and buy a black one..
Been waiting 3 years for 03 3.2auto low miles elite saloon in black with black leather. Not a peep. Some black ones, but older or more miles than mine with LPG fitted, which if I am to remove and re fit LPG to another car, it really sholud be a car worthy of the aggro involved in removing and re fitting LPG kit.
I even stopped some poor old fella driving such a car out of a supermarket car park and asked if he wanted to sell, I was ever so polite and softly spoken, but he looked at me as if I was about to car Jack him ;D bit too excited maybe :D
if you want that much go on.. but imo its really big trouble.. :-/
Black vxr 8 will probably come along before black 3.2 :'(
as an experience if you get the car painted , the paint will not be like original , will be thicker (unless you sand down to base coat - which is nearly impossible)and weaker and on corners will be visible as fluid paint will accumulate there, parts will make noise , you will have some problems with official papers etc etc.. :-/
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Given the difference in colours, it won't be a quick blow-over jobbie - it'd need flatting back fully etc.
And if they get into all the shut-lines/under bonnet etc, all the better.
Given the work you've put into your Mig over the years Chris, it would be daft to start from scratch - with an unknown car with unknown potential issues - just over colour.
Like I said before - if you're planning on keeping it, but the only thing putting you off is the colour, then get it sprayed. Given the cost of finding a replacement, in the colour you want, in the same spec you want, and then LPG'ing it - it'd end up working out cheaper respraying it!
If you do at some point decide to sell it on, then advertise it on here, and every man and his dog on here will know it's straight because its you - a known and trusted member - selling it on :y
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What is wrong with Oyster? got to be better than the ever so common Silver...... :)
I agree though with painting, anyone buying such an older car is unlikely to worry about the under bonnet colour, as long as the bodywork is in good nick, not so sure about the door shuts though..... :-/
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If the black version is in such demand or hard to find, if you paint yours and record all the before and after details any serious buyer would probably be happy enough. It may also make it more sought after and possibly worth a few more pennies. I buy a car on it's merits to me not whether it may be easier to sell after.
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At the end of the day its your car,
anyway who says he is ever selling? ;D
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Been waiting 3 years for 03 3.2auto low miles elite saloon in black with black leather. Not a peep. Some black ones, but older or more miles than mine with LPG fitted, which if I am to remove and re fit LPG to another car, it really sholud be a car worthy of the aggro involved in removing and re fitting LPG kit.
I even stopped some poor old fella driving such a car out of a supermarket car park and asked if he wanted to sell, I was ever so polite and softly spoken, but he looked at me as if I was about to car Jack him ;D bit too excited maybe :D
Maybe it's just me but I did a quick google and came up with http://motoring.friday-ad.co.uk/eastbourne/used-cars-for-sale/vauxhall-omega/vauxhall-omega-elite-SN4309686?Premium=1
3.2 elite, black, 89k, service history, ok so it's cream leather, maybe you're just unlucky ;)
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The vast majority of Black facelift Elites i've ever seen have had cream or grey (shale?) leather. Black Elite leather pops up quite regularly on evil bay though :y
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Just a thought, Chris....
what about "wrapping" it in black, seeing if you like it, if you don't, remove it and go back to the original colour??
Plenty of "wrapped" cars around, one close to me is wrapped in a radio station's garish 3 tone, but is yellow underneath (you would'nt know until you open the bonnet or doors...............)
Idea??
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im not sure a colour change would concern me. what would concern me is if that colour change hadnt been extended to the interior panels, door shuts, under bonnet etc. it needs to be a good job, otherwise that would put me off, so its more about quality of paintwork than colour change itself. if i think you've cut corners on paint then what else have you cut corners on? as others have said documenting the cars history and the work on here will prove you've nothing to hide, but ive seen a red corsa vxr with arden blue paint on the outside only and it looks horrific.
im planning a colour change on my cavalier, but will be bare metal spray. my irmscher mv6 will be getting a lick of paint but will be black again *sorry to rub it in* hehehehe!