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Title: (Rover) Any idea on removing CV joints
Post by: TheBoy on 27 September 2010, 16:05:24
I need to remove outer CV joints from driveshaft. I understand that there is some kind of circlip (that fits in a hidden groove) that you cannot get to that holds them in place.

Is it just a case of pulling it off?  I don't want to remove driveshaft from gearbox if at all possible.
Title: Re: (Rover) Any idea on removing CV joints
Post by: mrjimbo on 27 September 2010, 16:10:21
The circlip you are thinking of is on the inboard spline  ie where the drive shaft pushes into the gearbox. You wont be able to see it until you pull the shaft from the gearbox. The outer end is just a big nut holding the hub on the splines, no circlip.   :y
Title: Re: (Rover) Any idea on removing CV joints
Post by: neilr on 27 September 2010, 16:13:07
I have "tapped them off with a hammer in the past. Some need quite a tap though.
Title: Re: (Rover) Any idea on removing CV joints
Post by: TheBoy on 27 September 2010, 16:14:40
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The circlip you are thinking of is on the inboard spline  ie where the drive shaft pushes into the gearbox. You wont be able to see it until you pull the shaft from the gearbox. The outer end is just a big nut holding the hub on the splines, no circlip.   :y
I can see that the nut holds the hub to the splines of the CV, but it cant hold the CV to the drveshaft?
Title: Re: (Rover) Any idea on removing CV joints
Post by: aaronjb on 27 September 2010, 16:15:15
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I have "tapped them off with a hammer in the past. Some need quite a tap though.

I'm guessing the clip is the same kind of spring clip holding the nearside driveshaft in on the MR2 .. 'quite a tap' is an understatement, in that case - more like belt seven bells out of it with a big hammer and a drift  :D
Title: Re: (Rover) Any idea on removing CV joints
Post by: TheBoy on 27 September 2010, 16:15:28
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I have "tapped them off with a hammer in the past. Some need quite a tap though.
Any tips for stopping it coming out of gearbox whilst tapping beating the crap out of it?
Title: Re: (Rover) Any idea on removing CV joints
Post by: mrjimbo on 27 September 2010, 16:20:29
The drive shaft is held in the gearbox with a circlip/spring ring and the outer joint is held on the shaft the same way. The nut just holds the shaft to the hub.
Sorry i wasn't a bit clearer in the first post  :y
Title: Re: (Rover) Any idea on removing CV joints
Post by: neilr on 27 September 2010, 16:21:51
could try using a rachet strap
Title: Re: (Rover) Any idea on removing CV joints
Post by: TheBoy on 27 September 2010, 16:30:32
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could try using a rachet strap
LOL, chances of buying them in deepest Brackley isn't high ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: (Rover) Any idea on removing CV joints
Post by: neilr on 27 September 2010, 16:32:56
sorry didnt realise you were outside civilisation! could you not wedge it with a bit of wood.
Title: Re: (Rover) Any idea on removing CV joints
Post by: TheBoy on 27 September 2010, 16:37:59
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sorry didnt realise you were outside civilisation! could you not wedge it with a bit of wood.
Wood. Aye. We have trees in these parts ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: (Rover) Any idea on removing CV joints
Post by: neilr on 27 September 2010, 16:44:56
good luck :y
Title: Re: (Rover) Any idea on removing CV joints
Post by: tidla on 27 September 2010, 17:35:49
mole grips or a g clamp to hold the shaft to the wishbone. hold the outer cv joint straight as you can with a slight pull and tap.

ps(if its just the cv gaiter thats knackered the stretch boots are pretty good)
Title: Re: (Rover) Any idea on removing CV joints
Post by: andyc on 27 September 2010, 17:43:00
Been a few years since i've done a rover joint but if they are the same as the GM FWD ones, remove the boot, clear out as much grease as possible then have a feel round inside the joint for the circlip.

Use a good set of external circlip pliers in one hand, copper or soft face hammer in the other hand and pull the joint with other hand.....

Did i memtion you need three hands ;D

Andy
Title: Re: (Rover) Any idea on removing CV joints
Post by: scimmy_man on 27 September 2010, 17:58:34
pull the complete shaft out, hold it in a vice by the shaft and beat the CV off with a FBH.

its easier than trying to hold it on the car.
Title: Re: (Rover) Any idea on removing CV joints
Post by: henryd on 27 September 2010, 19:24:44
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Been a few years since i've done a rover joint but if they are the same as the GM FWD ones, remove the boot, clear out as much grease as possible then have a feel round inside the joint for the circlip.

Use a good set of external circlip pliers in one hand, copper or soft face hammer in the other hand and pull the joint with other hand.....

Did i memtion you need three hands ;D

Andy

not the same as vauxhall,circlip is hidden,knock off with a hammer :y
Title: Re: (Rover) Any idea on removing CV joints
Post by: TheBoy on 27 September 2010, 20:19:06
Cheers guys :y

One side done, darkness, rain and extreme hunger prevented other side being done tonight.

I'm not allowed tea until I'm bathed :(. Hence laying in the bath, on OOF :P
Title: Re: (Rover) Any idea on removing CV joints
Post by: aaronjb on 27 September 2010, 20:40:11
Don't drop the laptop, that could have a shocking outcome!  ;D
Title: Re: (Rover) Any idea on removing CV joints
Post by: TheBoy on 27 September 2010, 20:49:53
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Don't drop the laptop, that could have a shocking outcome!  ;D
The old one went in a few times ;D.  It lasted remarkably well, but I think the water eventually killed it  :'(

This HP one has yet to fall in the bath, but has been left out in the rain more than once (last time being Newent ;D)
Title: Re: (Rover) Any idea on removing CV joints
Post by: aaronjb on 27 September 2010, 21:08:27
 ;D ;D I've known people drop phones in baths..

I've even known a guy who took his Blackberry in the shower..

But I hadn't known anyone who'd dropped a laptop in the bath until now  ;D
Title: Re: (Rover) Any idea on removing CV joints
Post by: Elite Pete on 27 September 2010, 22:24:10
IIRC the outer CV joint came off the drive shafts quite easy with a bit of a tap and I don't remember the driveshaft being held in the gearbox either but it was a couple of years since I have done the CV joints on mine and my daughters 25s ::)
Title: Re: (Rover) Any idea on removing CV joints
Post by: CaptainZok on 28 September 2010, 03:01:00
The Gnome swears by his favourite tool the FBH ( Slapon of course). ;D
Title: Re: (Rover) Any idea on removing CV joints
Post by: Elite Pete on 28 September 2010, 09:15:46
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The Gnome swears by his favourite tool the FBH ( Slapon of course). ;D
Ah yes the FBH also know as the Negotiator, idiotometer ect ;D
Title: Re: (Rover) Any idea on removing CV joints
Post by: TheBoy on 28 September 2010, 19:42:15
Other side done tonight :)

Had trouble getting the boot clips tight - driveshaft end I used a cable tie, but the large one, had to use clip. Not convinced its tight enough  :-/
Title: Re: (Rover) Any idea on removing CV joints
Post by: Lazydocker on 29 September 2010, 20:49:52
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Other side done tonight :)

Had trouble getting the boot clips tight - driveshaft end I used a cable tie, but the large one, had to use clip. Not convinced its tight enough  :-/

They're a right PITA ::) ::)

Hope you made sure there was no grease on the mating faces of the boot and the joint ;) ;) :y
Title: Re: (Rover) Any idea on removing CV joints
Post by: Brikhead on 29 September 2010, 21:42:59
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Had trouble getting the boot clips tight - driveshaft end I used a cable tie, but the large one, had to use clip. Not convinced its tight enough  :-/

Join two cable ties together if needs be... I try to use the metal clips though, cable tied ones have come loose for me in the past.