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Title: auto gear box oil
Post by: raywilb on 04 October 2010, 14:10:56
changing gearbox oil. is it just a matter of emptying the oil from the gearbox & topping up at reservoir. the oil to be removed is blackish, been overheated. :-/ :y
Title: Re: auto gear box oil
Post by: Varche on 04 October 2010, 14:27:26
Ideally you would also change the oil filter inside the gearbox. Or give it a good clean if money is an issue.

Remove both gearbox sumps and refit with new gaskets. Top up is fiddly using the oil level check plug on the side of the gearbox (your drivers side)

There is a good how to in the maintenance guides and also discount available via JPAT as a sticky at the top of the page.
Title: Re: auto gear box oil
Post by: Jimbob on 04 October 2010, 15:01:43
is this on the Volvo as per your other thread?
Title: Re: auto gear box oil
Post by: Osprey on 04 October 2010, 16:57:31
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Ideally you would also change the oil filter inside the gearbox. Or give it a good clean if money is an issue.

Remove both gearbox sumps and refit with new gaskets. Top up is fiddly using the oil level check plug on the side of the gearbox (your drivers side)

There is a good how to in the maintenance guides and also discount available via JPAT as a sticky at the top of the page.

Maybe I'm having a protracted senior moment but I can't find either of these.  Please could you help out with a link?

Now I think about it I recall they used to be there - are they deleted Burgers?



Title: Re: auto gear box oil
Post by: Varche on 04 October 2010, 17:51:33
JPat discount is a sticky at the top of parts for sale/wanted

I can't find the maintenance guide. Maybe I imagined it. Senior moment? This is VOF ? There is on page 7 a guide on checking oil level. http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152783586
Title: Re: auto gear box oil
Post by: Osprey on 04 October 2010, 20:48:32
Fairy snuff.  So here’s how I plan to do it – if it’s good enough, the scrambled-egg-on-their-hats types might elevate it to a maintenance guide:

1) Grovel in the dirt under the car, curse
2) Undo countless bolts
3) Get full-body ATF shower, cough, splutter, curse
4) Undo filter, get extra ATF shower, cough, splutter, curse some more
5) Assembly is the reverse etc.
6) Refill as per the guide
7) “And you needn’t think you’re coming in here in that state”
8) “No it won’t help if you take your clothes off”

Have I missed anything?

Title: Re: auto gear box oil
Post by: Varche on 04 October 2010, 22:36:14
That is about it!. I use a plastic potting bench tray to catch the oil and any bolts you drop. Tie a piece of rag round your arm and then discard it. Stops oil going down your sleeve etc.

Don't over tighten the sump bolts on re assembly.

Best to do it on a still day as it is a bit like "open heart surgery". Don't want dust getting in!

Have a look back through posts in General help as everyone has their own take on doing the job. e.g. using a pressure sprayer to pump oil in. I use Mrs Varche pouring in through a funnel into a long length of clear pipe while I " Grovel in the dirt under the car, curse", holding the other end in the filler hole next to the hot exhaust cat pipe.

Look on the bright side, when you do the next change in another 80k you will breeze through it! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: auto gear box oil
Post by: feeutfo on 04 October 2010, 22:53:54
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Fairy snuff.  So here’s how I plan to do it – if it’s good enough, the scrambled-egg-on-their-hats types might elevate it to a maintenance guide:

1) Grovel in the dirt under the car, curse
2) Undo countless bolts
3) Get full-body ATF shower, cough, splutter, curse
4) Undo filter, get extra ATF shower, cough, splutter, curse some more
5) Assembly is the reverse etc.
6) Refill as per the guide
7) “And you needn’t think you’re coming in here in that state”
8) “No it won’t help if you take your clothes off”

Have I missed anything?

Yes, get your local mech to do it on a ramp, give him the printed off guide and the parts and watch HIM get covered in atf instead. :y

...got to be worth an hours labour rate?  ;)
Title: Re: auto gear box oil
Post by: Entwood on 04 October 2010, 22:55:58
Hardest part for me is getting the car level ..... axle stands never seem to "fit" to hold it in the right place ...

This car is now overdue... and I keep putting it off ... tempted to try Chris's idea at a local garage !
Title: Re: auto gear box oil
Post by: scimmy_man on 04 October 2010, 23:08:08
drive it onto ramps, and jack / axle stand the rear.
Title: Re: auto gear box oil
Post by: raywilb on 05 October 2010, 01:37:47
yes it is the volvo. the owner drove it back from coventry to york with a leaky rad, topping up countless of times. however he,s lucky the engine is sweet as a nut. no damage. the gearbox oil tho is burnt looking.  i,ve advised him to get it renewed, but i know he wont. balls in his court now. thanks for all posts its 30years since i,ve touched an auto g/box & that happened to be a volvo 164  :y
Title: Re: auto gear box oil
Post by: Entwood on 05 October 2010, 21:31:59
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drive it onto ramps, and jack / axle stand the rear.

If you saw the slope on where it is parked you'd know that would never work !!!
Title: Re: auto gear box oil
Post by: scimmy_man on 05 October 2010, 22:24:51
so ramp the other end?
or find a flat bit? ;D
Title: Re: auto gear box oil
Post by: feeutfo on 05 October 2010, 22:47:39
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so ramp the other end?
or find a flat bit? ;D
So which ramps are you using.....?
Title: Re: auto gear box oil
Post by: Kneepad on 06 October 2010, 00:34:48
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Ideally you would also change the oil filter inside the gearbox. Or give it a good clean if money is an issue.

Remove both gearbox sumps and refit with new gaskets. Top up is fiddly using the oil level check plug on the side of the gearbox (your drivers side)

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If this is a supposedly sealed for life gearbox, are new filters/gaskets readily available ?
Title: Re: auto gear box oil
Post by: VXL V6 on 06 October 2010, 00:42:50
Sealed for life but VX recomend a 60K fluid change I beleive!  :y

It's not a difficult job to be honest, just takes time. Sassanach fitted drain plugs on mine so the fluid can be drained easily before you drop the sumps. Saves getting an ATF shower  :y

Title: Re: auto gear box oil
Post by: Kneepad on 06 October 2010, 00:48:09
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Sealed for life but VX recomend a 60K fluid change I beleive!  :y

It's not a difficult job to be honest, just takes time. Sassanach fitted drain plugs on mine so the fluid can be drained easily before you drop the sumps. Saves getting an ATF shower  :y


Seems like a perfectly sensible thing to do. No more ATF showers.     :y
Title: Re: auto gear box oil
Post by: Martin_1962 on 06 October 2010, 11:04:34
I am thinking of asking a local mechanic to change mine - he has a 4 post lift and is not expensive.