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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Kevin Wood on 08 October 2010, 16:52:50
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Mrs KW phones up practically in tears at lunch time. Some muppet has reversed a transit tipper into her MX5 in the works car park and made a bloody good job of it by all accounts. >:(
Guy did a runner. Got a couple of witnesses and the registration number though. The unit he was visiting said they did have a guy round asking if they had any scrap earlier. :-? That'll be him. He left a business card. :y
Informed the Police and she instantly got a verbal 7 day wonder over the phone. >:( Who's the rather criminal here?
Anyway, Police say the reg. no. doesn't match the business card. Surprise, surprise! Here's your crime number, now bu66er off, essentially. >:(
Guess I'll have to survey the damage tonight, and check the car for traces of lucky heather and tarmac. Why do I get the feeling this is going to turn into a massive PITA? :(
Kevin
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Bloody hell Kevin! Any CCTV?
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It will, because these pikeys are theiving, lying bastards.
Even if you did get an address (pikey wagon, A303 layby), you will find them to be too aggressive to deal with. Its how the idiots get away with it.
In the case of pikeys, the army should be called in. Job done, and early bonfire night.
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Bloody hell Kevin! Any CCTV?
With a bit of luck.. The guys in one of the units were going to have a look.
Even if you did get an address (pikey wagon, A303 layby), you will find them to be too aggressive to deal with. Its how the idiots get away with it.
Yep. Police won't even bother with them. Not that they are interested in helping anyway, by the sound of it. >:(
Kevin
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you need to find the van and let "justice" prevail
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Hit 'n run scum! And I particularly love how your Mrs gets a producer for the trouble of reporting it...
As for dealing with them, indeed, pretty difficult.. I knew a guy who resorted to the use of the local Hell's Angels to get a load off his land (obviously he was friendly with the former!) - I hear that did the job quite well..
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Hit 'n run scum! And I particularly love how your Mrs gets a producer for the trouble of reporting it...
As for dealing with them, indeed, pretty difficult.. I knew a guy who resorted to the use of the local Hell's Angels to get a load off his land (obviously he was friendly with the former!) - I hear that did the job quite well..
Where I used to live, the pikeys picked the wrong estate to park up on. The local hard nuts went around, did a lot of damage (via bottles, petrol and rags!), and the pikeys legged it. The police rightly kept out of the way, except to arrange removal of the abandonned vans after the incident.
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OUCH kev.... sorry to hear this mate......
may the fleas of a thousand camels infest the ne'erdowell's nether regions, and may they be doomed to drive an austin allegro for all time.
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Bloody hell Kevin! Any CCTV?
With a bit of luck.. The guys in one of the units were going to have a look.
Even if you did get an address (pikey wagon, A303 layby), you will find them to be too aggressive to deal with. Its how the idiots get away with it.
Yep. Police won't even bother with them. Not that they are interested in helping anyway, by the sound of it. >:(
Kevin
Yep. Police won't even bother with them. Not that they are interested in helping anyway, by the sound of it.
I wouldn't accept that at all K. I'm afraid that I would be at the relevant nick lodging a complant regarding the lack of police action.
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Bloody hell Kevin! Any CCTV?
most cctvs cant show the registration number as their resolution is not adequate generally..
bad news Kevin.. :(
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so some nob end backs into your wife's car and she gets a verbal off the police?? how the hell does that work? i wonder sometimes whos side the police are really on ::)
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It's always the good that get shit on >:( >:(
At least your good lady wasn't driving down the road at the time, could've been worse.
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Sorry to hear Mr and Mrs Wood. >:(
Rarely is CCTV of any use ime. Sounds like a mare. Spoke to insurer yet? :-/
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That is dreadful, get on to the Police and escalate it.
Hit 'n run scum! And I particularly love how your Mrs gets a producer for the trouble of reporting it...
As for dealing with them, indeed, pretty difficult.. I knew a guy who resorted to the use of the local Hell's Angels to get a load off his land (obviously he was friendly with the former!) - I hear that did the job quite well..
VERY useful if you know some, I have heard of sex offenders being forced out of an area. I would rather upset pikeys than HAs.
Where I used to live, the pikeys picked the wrong estate to park up on. The local hard nuts went around, did a lot of damage (via bottles, petrol and rags!), and the pikeys legged it. The police rightly kept out of the way, except to arrange removal of the abandonned vans after the incident.
Now that sounds rather good
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Strikes a chord on a couple of levels and I feel for you, and heartily endorse all the previous replies.
My wife also drives an MX5 and we'd be very sorry (to say the least) to see it damaged in any way at all....
A few years back (OK about 25) I was cut up by a scabby old Granada which scraped down the side of my car - I was forced into the gutter trying to avoid but got the reg number.
Sure enough it belonged to the local pikeys and I was told to forget any chance of recovering anything from this 'community', only saving grace that my car was probably equally scabby and did not look a lot the worse for its experience.
Still riles me now to play this episode back..been unreasonably prejudiced against this sector of the population ever since...and does my head in that even with all the details you have of this offender there'll be no effort to find the guy and exact justice.
And breathe...
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Well, it's not as bad as I feared but it is going to be a fair old repair job:
Plastic bumper knackered. Got a dent the size and depth of a fist in it.
Light cluster broken (Police were kind enough to point out that it might be an offence to drive it if it's showing white light >:().
Something on the bottom of the flat bed has gone across the top of the boot and onto the rear wing, creasing it and taking it down to bare metal.
Insurance company were good. They reckon the 3rd party vehicle is insured and it will be possible to claim with or without the owner's cooperation with the weight of a witness, Police involvement and potentially some CCTV.
Kevin
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Well, it's not as bad as I feared but it is going to be a fair old repair job:
Plastic bumper knackered. Got a dent the size and depth of a fist in it.
Light cluster broken (Police were kind enough to point out that it might be an offence to drive it if it's showing white light >:().
Something on the bottom of the flat bed has gone across the top of the boot and onto the rear wing, creasing it and taking it down to bare metal.
Insurance company were good. They reckon the 3rd party vehicle is insured and it will be possible to claim with or without the owner's cooperation with the weight of a witness, Police involvement and potentially some CCTV.
Kevin
Was hoping that should be the case. Police must peruse it, leaving the scene and all that.
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Was hoping that should be the case. Police must peruse it, leaving the scene and all that.
Would have thought so, but the impression Emma came away with was that they were happy he wasn't driving uninsured so no further action. >:(
Kevin
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Was hoping that should be the case. Police must peruse it, leaving the scene and all that.
Would have thought so, but the impression Emma came away with was that they were happy he wasn't driving uninsured so no further action. >:(
Kevin
Main thrust of Police 'argument' is the fact its non injury.
As already said, persue with Police (read that as insist...) as regards the hit and run element, citing witnesses etc. Refer back to the officers shoulder number you initially noted (didn't you) when you first reported the matter and ask/insist via a 'supervisory officer' (sgt or above) what current state of play is so that you can advise your insurance company accordingly.
Might not achieve that much, TBH, but certainly paves the way for your insurance company to march through.
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Main thrust of Police 'argument' is the fact its non injury.
I guess so. Someone's probably lying in a hospital bed somewhere, and more deserving of their time, however irritating this idiot escaping justice might appear. :(
Kevin
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Was hoping that should be the case. Police must peruse it, leaving the scene and all that.
Would have thought so, but the impression Emma came away with was that they were happy he wasn't driving uninsured so no further action. >:(
Kevin
Gaaaw I might be making a rather strong complaint about that. Wile on one hand nobody was injured and no road furniture damaged, the other criteria for no police involvement is details must be exchanged. Every time I ring em to report an incident that's what they say....unless they forgot the part that pikeys are exempt of course. >:(
Edit.
Too slow.
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sorry to hear of this aggravation - Mrs KW is such a nice lady and not deserving of this inconvenience
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KW, I will have a word with swmbo in the morning 'cos she's on night shift **** ***** **** stuck at a crime scene (whoops...) and not answering my texts... nothing new tho ;D ;)
Gixer is right about the fail to stop, exchange of details etc. Can't remember the offence, think its Section 172 of the RTA but will ask swmbo...
Good news is... provided incident reported to police, VRN known (even if false plates) Mrs KW is totally covered by these guy's http://www.mib.org.uk/Frequently+Asked+Questions/en/Default.htm She will get substantial payout even if driver is untraceable :y
PM me tomorrow if you need any tips ;)
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Main thrust of Police 'argument' is the fact its non injury.
I guess so. Someone's probably lying in a hospital bed somewhere, and more deserving of their time, however irritating this idiot escaping justice might appear. :(
Kevin
I'd go along with that except this guy has proved his colours by
1. driving into your car
2. scarpering
Next time he may be the cause of the the person being in the hospital bed - he clearly doesn't give a ****
Anyway great to hear you're covered so give or take some aggro' you'll get paid out :) :)
Been told I'll be waiting 18 months to get paid out by the Serbian who bumped my car in a car park - but at least he owned up and left his details.
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so some nob end backs into your wife's car and she gets a verbal off the police?? how the hell does that work? i wonder sometimes whos side the police are really on ::)
21st century policing - its a bit different from what us stupid people fink it oughta be. ;) If we would just take the time to study for a degree in sociology, we would be singing from the same hymnsheet as they are. ::)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1318499/Doggers-indulging-outdoor-sex-protected-victimisation.html
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so some nob end backs into your wife's car and she gets a verbal off the police?? how the hell does that work? i wonder sometimes whos side the police are really on ::)
21st century policing - its a bit different from what us stupid people fink it oughta be. ;) If we would just take the time to study for a degree in sociology, we would be singing from the same hymnsheet as they are. ::)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1318499/Doggers-indulging-outdoor-sex-protected-victimisation.html
I wouldn't say verbal, but certainly an attitude of "while you're here let's see if we can pin anything on you". Might be seen as proactive, perhaps, but hardly an approach that's going to win the "hearts and minds" of the public, especially when they waste time making you jump through hoops then don't follow up on the real issue. >:(
After all, the type of person who doesn't have his affairs in order and above-board isn't going to cross their threshold in the first place.
Kevin
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so some nob end backs into your wife's car and she gets a verbal off the police?? how the hell does that work? i wonder sometimes whos side the police are really on ::)
21st century policing - its a bit different from what us stupid people fink it oughta be. ;) If we would just take the time to study for a degree in sociology, we would be singing from the same hymnsheet as they are. ::)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1318499/Doggers-indulging-outdoor-sex-protected-victimisation.html
I wouldn't say verbal, but certainly an attitude of "while you're here let's see if we can pin anything on you". Might be seen as proactive, perhaps, but hardly an approach that's going to win the "hearts and minds" of the public, especially when they waste time making you jump through hoops then don't follow up on the real issue. >:(
After all, the type of person who doesn't have his affairs in order and above-board isn't going to cross their threshold in the first place.
Kevin
That's why I said that this must be complained about at the relevant station.
There seems to have been a remarkable tendency for police management to attempt to re-orient the very raison d'être for the existence of the police force.
This move away from traditional policing isn't necessarily a good thing (while in some cases necessary) as the compact between police and public has been all but lost to policing by statistic and remote technology.
The police force exists to uphold the law, apprehend wrongdoers, to ensure the safety of the public and to protect property. The fact that a police officer seems disinclined to do some of these things in this case is worthy of investigation.
The push by the last government towards the crime quota system all but handed police management a blank cheque: Rather than quantifying the efficiency of various forces, this merely created a bankruptcy of public confidence in the police force as a result of the disinclination in many officers to get off their arses and do the job they're actually paid for.
21st. century policing depends on technology and new measures to match changing crime patterns, but to abandon the basic tenet of the police officer being there to offer positive assistance to a member of the public in need merely asks for trouble.
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a local do as you likey, ran over a kid, and ran off, in court last week his family were heckling and taunting the kids parents.
they have no shame.
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here
http://www.parentdish.co.uk/2010/10/01/you-should-have-been-looking-after-him-mum-of-10-year-old-hit-child/
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Sorry to hear this Kev, at least Mrs KW is physically ok :y
The police in Hampshire are useless, three times I have reported some quite serious anti-social and dangerous driving and not once were they followed up. If it wont bump up their quotas then it aint 'worth' their time. >:(
On the issue of HA, there is an ex-member I am still in contact with who has contacts there. I think you know who I am talking about :y
And ref the family heckling the victim's parents in court, we had exactly the same with the families of the guys who killed my bro. They were racing and ran over him while he was cycling in the same direction. It was very bad for my younger brother who was in the same class as one of them and the school part only stopped following some physical intervention by yours truely. Scum is far too weak an expression for these folk >:(
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KW didn't realise he/she was insured, just read the thread back through. So I doubt you'll need the link I provided...
Anyway I guess the Police aren't too popular here so I'll leave it there... If however you do want him/her nicked for it, then PM me... if not then good luck with it all, Steve
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KW didn't realise he/she was insured, just read the thread back through. So I doubt you'll need the link I provided...
Anyway I guess the Police aren't too popular here so I'll leave it there... If however you do want him/her nicked for it, then PM me... if not then good luck with it all, Steve
If however you do want him/her nicked for it, then PM me
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Could those words not be misconstrued Steve?
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Anyway I guess the Police aren't too popular here so I'll leave it there...
That's not the impression I intended to give. Just a little disappointed at their thoroughness in investigating our affairs versus the apparent apathy towards the party who has committed an offence.
KW didn't realise he/she was insured, just read the thread back through. So I doubt you'll need the link I provided...
Well, we'll see. Early days yet. In any case, she has comprehensive cover, protected NCD and uninsured losses recovery so getting the car fixed won't be a problem. Just annoying if her insurance has to swallow it.
Kevin
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I have a spare bootlid in black - could bring it on Tuesday ....?
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I have a spare bootlid in black - could bring it on Tuesday ....?
The offer is much appreciated and I'll bear it in mind. If only the rear ring wasn't also in need of repair and beyond my capabilities... :(
Kevin
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Posted by Zulu77
Could those words not be misconstrued Steve?
I should hope not Zulu? Arrestable offences have been commited & the offender has neither been arrested and/or no further action has been taken. If I can help KW, I will... He has helped me out on numerous occassions.
Zulu, for the benefit of others reading this thread, please say why you think my comment might be misconstrued? I understand this was a rhetorical question but not so sure about the inference (that's inference not interference)...
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Posted by Zulu77Could those words not be misconstrued Steve?
I should hope not Zulu? Arrestable offences have been commited & the offender has neither been arrested and/or no further action has been taken. If I can help KW, I will... He has helped me out on numerous occassions.
Zulu, for the benefit of others reading this thread, please say why you think my comment might be misconstrued? I understand this was a rhetorical question but not so sure about the inference (that's inference not interference)...
Certainly 24, how can you (As in Steve) have the alleged offender 'nicked'?
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fair point zulu, hadn't crossed my mind that my comment could be misconstrued in that way... KW knows I'm a paramedic, not a cop, so I was simply suggesting that KW contact me if he wanted the driver to be nicked, not inferring that I can nick anyone or have them 'nicked' :y p.s even if one did misunderstand my comment, they'd only have to look at my avatar to see that I live in london, KW in hampshire... so therefore different jurisdiction and not possible. hope that helps :)
p.s. I think I said "If however you do want him/her nicked for it" meaning I might be able to give KW some helpful advice. Unfortunately encouraging people to complain, albeit a very english hobby doesn't actually get results.
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fair point zulu, hadn't crossed my mind that my comment could be misconstrued in that way... KW knows I'm a paramedic, not a cop, so I was simply suggesting that KW contact me if he wanted the driver to be nicked, not inferring that I can nick anyone or have them 'nicked' :y p.s even if one did misunderstand my comment, they'd only have to look at my avatar to see that I live in london, KW in hampshire... so therefore different jurisdiction and not possible. hope that helps :)
p.s. I think I said "If however you do want him/her nicked for it" meaning I might be able to give KW some helpful advice. Unfortunately encouraging people to complain, albeit a very english hobby doesn't actually get results.
I wasn't bustin' your chops really S but it's important to realize how easy it is for some to jump to the wrong conclusions on the foot of what many post here.
You rightly say that there are some on here who are plainly anti police/establishment (for their own reasons - some justified, some not) so I was waiting for adverse comment on the nature of your suggestion
Insofar as making official complaints is concerned, I'm particularly focussed on this at the moment as I perceive that there is a real cause for concern – that should be brought to light - regarding the present tendency for police officers to write off reported incidents without due investigation.
When official complaints are made a series of events are set in motion that reach far into highlighting any unsatisfactory matters concerning police conduct.
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no probs Zulu, thanks for the feedback, it's helpful to have an objective view on these things :y