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Title: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 07 August 2010, 07:04:13
Collected my new 2.6 CDX with full leathers yesterday.

Bought as seen, from a dealer, so got a good discount.

Problems:-

Noisey front offside wheel bearing.

O2 sensor emmissions problems (previous owner has got bills amounting to £590 trying to sort it, from Surefit :o)

Needs a proper service, plugs, breathers, filters etc.

Needs a cambelt change.

Other than that it's fine ;D

Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: feeutfo on 07 August 2010, 09:29:11
Pictures of your 1/3 addition?


And I take it the emissions issue is a bit more involved than the normal pre cat issue?
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 07 August 2010, 09:36:49
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Pictures of your 1/3 addition?


And I take it the emissions issue is a bit more involved than the normal pre cat issue?

Pictures in the gallery.

Hope to get the emissions sorted with the all knowlegeable ones at Newent.
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: feeutfo on 07 August 2010, 10:01:24
Oh yes, tidy job with cow   :y
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 08 August 2010, 13:14:57
Right done a bit of work.

Tried to change the oil first, no go, can't get the oil filter undone >:(

Spent an hour and a half trying.

Front door strap washers changed, to stop the crack of doom.

Changed the pollen filter.

Changed the air filter, underneath the air filter, blocking the air intake was a dirty great oily wrag :o

Got the multi rams working, just needed a bit of release oil on them.

Got rid of 2 of the 4 fault codes.

Didn't change the plugs, will wait for Newent.

Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 08 August 2010, 13:35:49
Encouraging, so far 8-) :y :y
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: feeutfo on 08 August 2010, 15:26:18
Full vx service history per chance?
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 08 August 2010, 15:51:30
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Full vx service history per chance?

For the first 3 years.

Last service was done by Surefit - Wolverhampton.
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: PhilRich on 08 August 2010, 15:52:49
What! you got a free oily rag?! :D
I had to make my own :o ;D
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 08 August 2010, 15:54:15
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Right done a bit of work.

Tried to change the oil first, no go, can't get the oil filter undone >:(

Spent an hour and a half trying.

Front door strap washers changed, to stop the crack of doom.

Changed the pollen filter.

Changed the air filter, underneath the air filter, blocking the air intake was a dirty great oily wrag :o

Got the multi rams working, just needed a bit of release oil on them.

Got rid of 2 of the 4 fault codes.

Didn't change the plugs, will wait for Newent.



Not trying to be clever, but no cleaning of the breathers AA? :-/ :-/
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 08 August 2010, 15:58:06
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Right done a bit of work.

Tried to change the oil first, no go, can't get the oil filter undone >:(

Spent an hour and a half trying.

Front door strap washers changed, to stop the crack of doom.

Changed the pollen filter.

Changed the air filter, underneath the air filter, blocking the air intake was a dirty great oily wrag :o

Got the multi rams working, just needed a bit of release oil on them.

Got rid of 2 of the 4 fault codes.

Didn't change the plugs, will wait for Newent.



Not trying to be clever, but no cleaning of the breathers AA? :-/ :-/

Another day Lizzie, bit cream crackered after lying on my back trying to get the oil filter off.

At my age now (Oh to be 30 years younger), I have to take my time with things :(
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 08 August 2010, 16:00:27
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Right done a bit of work.

Tried to change the oil first, no go, can't get the oil filter undone >:(

Spent an hour and a half trying.

Front door strap washers changed, to stop the crack of doom.

Changed the pollen filter.

Changed the air filter, underneath the air filter, blocking the air intake was a dirty great oily wrag :o

Got the multi rams working, just needed a bit of release oil on them.

Got rid of 2 of the 4 fault codes.

Didn't change the plugs, will wait for Newent.



Not trying to be clever, but no cleaning of the breathers AA? :-/ :-/

Another day Lizzie, bit cream crackered after lying on my back trying to get the oil filter off.

At my age now (Oh to be 30 years younger), I have to take my time with things :(


Iknow exactly what you mean AA!! ;D ;D ;D ;D

Been there, done it, and still aching from it!! :o :o   We are NOT getting any younger!! :'( :'( :'( ;) ;)
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 08 August 2010, 16:07:51
P0135 - O2 Sensor Heater Circuit Low Voltage (Bank 1 Sensor 1)
 (02) - Intermittent

P0135 - O2 Sensor Heater Circuit Malfunction (Bank 1 Sensor 1)
 (08) - Intermittent

Fault codes.
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: CaptainZok on 08 August 2010, 18:58:35
Have they tried a known good sensor from a breaker?
Won't a 2.6 be a bit too fast for you AA? ;D
It's going to want to do more than 49mph in the middle lane you know.
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 08 August 2010, 19:10:47
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Have they tried a known good sensor from a breaker?
Won't a 2.6 be a bit too fast for you AA? ;D
It's going to want to do more than 49mph in the middle lane you know.

Kevin's hopefully going to sort out the sensor issues at Newent.

No it's not too fast, drive it locked in first gear... ;)

The frustrating bit is what I used to be able to do in my stride, I am now reliant on other people to do.

It makes me a bit depressed at times :(
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 10 August 2010, 07:00:55
Bit concerned about the ride height at the rear.

My 2.2 measures 70cm at floor to wheel arch, the 2.6 measures 66cm.
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Jimbob on 10 August 2010, 07:10:28
Ohhh gawd, we swapping those spring assisters over  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 10 August 2010, 07:13:55
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Ohhh gawd, we swapping those spring assisters over  ;D ;D ;D

No, me and a mate took them off the 2.2 yesterday, don't fit the 2.6, different seating at the bottom of the coil.
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 10 August 2010, 07:16:36
The good news was he managed to shift the oil filter :y
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Welung666 on 10 August 2010, 10:52:37
Don't forget that I'm not far away if you need any help AA ;) :y
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 10 August 2010, 12:08:52
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Don't forget that I'm not far away if you need any help AA ;) :y

Cheers :y
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 10 August 2010, 16:02:42
That's the oil and filter changed, filter cap was so gunged up, I had to clean it out with carb cleaner.

By the way, all you V6 owners, how do you change the oil filter, without getting it all over your hair? :-?

 >:( ;D
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Ozzie Ferret on 10 August 2010, 16:05:26
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That's the oil and filter changed, filter cap was so gunged up, I had to clean it out with carb cleaner.

By the way, all you V6 owners, how do you change the oil filter, without getting it all over your hair? :-?

 >:( ;D
My Dad gets our Gnome to do it. ;D
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: PhilRich on 10 August 2010, 16:11:57
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That's the oil and filter changed, filter cap was so gunged up, I had to clean it out with carb cleaner.

By the way, all you V6 owners, how do you change the oil filter, without getting it all over your hair? :-? >:( ;D
My Dad gets our Gnome to do it. ;D








Buy a 4 pot instead, then the only thing at risk is your lower lumbar region! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: TheBoy on 10 August 2010, 18:08:09
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By the way, all you V6 owners, how do you change the oil filter, without getting it all over your hair? :-?
You only do that once before learning ;)
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: TheBoy on 10 August 2010, 18:08:38
Thought 2.2 and 2.6 springs would be the same. Are the coils complete?
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 10 August 2010, 18:25:12
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Thought 2.2 and 2.6 springs would be the same. Are the coils complete?

Contacted the spring assisters manufacturer, they said according to their data, all Omegas are the same.

I have a feeling that aftermarket springs have been fitted :(

On the 2.2 the cup fitted into the bottom of the spring, on the 2.6 there is a rubber plate that the coil sits on, so you cannot fit the bottom cup into the spring, if you can understand that.

Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: TheBoy on 10 August 2010, 18:30:24
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Thought 2.2 and 2.6 springs would be the same. Are the coils complete?

Contacted the spring assisters manufacturer, they said according to their data, all Omegas are the same.

I have a feeling that aftermarket springs have been fitted :(

On the 2.2 the cup fitted into the bottom of the spring, on the 2.6 there is a rubber plate that the coil sits on, so you cannot fit the bottom cup into the spring, if you can understand that.

There are differences amongst models, but the top and bottom fittings are same.  You absoluetly sure that both rear springs are complete?
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 10 August 2010, 18:32:09
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Thought 2.2 and 2.6 springs would be the same. Are the coils complete?

Contacted the spring assisters manufacturer, they said according to their data, all Omegas are the same.

I have a feeling that aftermarket springs have been fitted :(

On the 2.2 the cup fitted into the bottom of the spring, on the 2.6 there is a rubber plate that the coil sits on, so you cannot fit the bottom cup into the spring, if you can understand that.

There are differences amongst models, but the top and bottom fittings are same.  You absoluetly sure that both rear springs are complete?

In what way?
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: TheBoy on 10 August 2010, 18:50:18
Noot broken ;)


Sometimes, a pic is worth......
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 10 August 2010, 18:50:42
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That's the oil and filter changed, filter cap was so gunged up, I had to clean it out with carb cleaner.

By the way, all you V6 owners, how do you change the oil filter, without getting it all over your hair? :-?

 >:( ;D


I unwind the oil filter cap very slowly, then when the oil starts to show I just leave it draining into a container until all the oil is out.  A cloth is used when I finally remove the cap to catch the very last drops of oil. ;) ;)
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 10 August 2010, 21:41:46
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Noot broken ;)


Sometimes, a pic is worth......

Indeed.
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 10 August 2010, 21:42:52
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That's the oil and filter changed, filter cap was so gunged up, I had to clean it out with carb cleaner.

By the way, all you V6 owners, how do you change the oil filter, without getting it all over your hair? :-?

 >:( ;D


I unwind the oil filter cap very slowly, then when the oil starts to show I just leave it draining into a container until all the oil is out.  A cloth is used when I finally remove the cap to catch the very last drops of oil. ;) ;)

Typical woman's logic ;)

I am a mere male remember. :-[
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: TheBoy on 10 August 2010, 21:50:25
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That's the oil and filter changed, filter cap was so gunged up, I had to clean it out with carb cleaner.

By the way, all you V6 owners, how do you change the oil filter, without getting it all over your hair? :-?

 >:( ;D


I unwind the oil filter cap very slowly, then when the oil starts to show I just leave it draining into a container until all the oil is out.  A cloth is used when I finally remove the cap to catch the very last drops of oil. ;) ;)

Typical woman's logic ;)

I am a mere male remember. :-[
You could always ask Mrs AA to do the oil changes ;D ;D
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 10 August 2010, 21:56:43
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That's the oil and filter changed, filter cap was so gunged up, I had to clean it out with carb cleaner.

By the way, all you V6 owners, how do you change the oil filter, without getting it all over your hair? :-?

 >:( ;D


I unwind the oil filter cap very slowly, then when the oil starts to show I just leave it draining into a container until all the oil is out.  A cloth is used when I finally remove the cap to catch the very last drops of oil. ;) ;)

Typical woman's logic ;)

I am a mere male remember. :-[
You could always ask Mrs AA to do the oil changes ;D ;D

Then I'd get all 6ltrs poured over my hair..... :D

Mind you, I could say that you suggested it.....(whilst at Newnent)..... ::) ;)
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 11 August 2010, 15:30:19
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Noot broken ;)


Sometimes, a pic is worth......

Picture as requested:-

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i143/Auto_Addict/RearSpring001.jpg)
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: TheBoy on 11 August 2010, 20:35:49
Not sure thats complete AA...
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: CaptainZok on 11 August 2010, 21:19:01
Looks like the pig tail has snapped off (as they do) to me too.
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 12 August 2010, 07:29:17
 :(
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 12 August 2010, 07:47:23
That's Newent out then, can't tow a caravan with that, unless someone can help me fix it before then. :(
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: TheBoy on 12 August 2010, 10:46:45
Feel free to pop by, but needs to be in next week or so
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 12 August 2010, 12:13:25
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Feel free to pop by, but needs to be in next week or so

Thanks, will phone you on Sunday, we're off now till then.
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Welung666 on 12 August 2010, 12:17:48
If you can pick a pair of springs up I'll come over B, I'm still off work till Monday ;) :y
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: CaptainZok on 13 August 2010, 16:08:58
Here you are AA, do your springs have the pigs tail that curls around the pin in this shot?
Sorry for the quality just snapped a quickie with the phone while TG was fixing my rim leak.
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m302/CaptainZok/IMAGE_169.jpg)
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 15 August 2010, 14:24:42
I'm going for these from buypartsby:-

Part Number : RJ6211
 Cost : £38.82 + vat
 
 Coil Spring       
 
 Model: OMEGA B 2.6
 Year range:  01/00-12/04
 Location: RR
 Extra info:  Saloon
 Heavy Duty
 Mini-Bloc type
 Petrol

I thought the heavy duty would be better for towing.

Anyone got any thoughts on them please?
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Welung666 on 15 August 2010, 20:44:06
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I'm going for these from buypartsby:-

Part Number : RJ6211
 Cost : £38.82 + vat
 
 Coil Spring       
 
 Model: OMEGA B 2.6
 Year range:  01/00-12/04
 Location: RR
 Extra info:  Saloon
 Heavy Duty
 Mini-Bloc type
 Petrol

I thought the heavy duty would be better for towing.

Anyone got any thoughts on them please?

They'll do nicely B :y
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: gstylebaby on 15 August 2010, 20:50:08
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What! you got a free oily rag?! :D
I had to make my own :o ;D

Lmao. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 15 August 2010, 21:03:37
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I'm going for these from buypartsby:-

Part Number : RJ6211
 Cost : £38.82 + vat
 
 Coil Spring       
 
 Model: OMEGA B 2.6
 Year range:  01/00-12/04
 Location: RR
 Extra info:  Saloon
 Heavy Duty
 Mini-Bloc type
 Petrol

I thought the heavy duty would be better for towing.

Anyone got any thoughts on them please?

They'll do nicely B :y

Cheers :y
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Martin_1962 on 15 August 2010, 21:07:55
Get the Monroe shocks as well - they are brilliant!
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Welung666 on 15 August 2010, 21:09:25
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I'm going for these from buypartsby:-

Part Number : RJ6211
 Cost : £38.82 + vat
 
 Coil Spring       
 
 Model: OMEGA B 2.6
 Year range:  01/00-12/04
 Location: RR
 Extra info:  Saloon
 Heavy Duty
 Mini-Bloc type
 Petrol

I thought the heavy duty would be better for towing.

Anyone got any thoughts on them please?

They'll do nicely B :y

Cheers :y

If you need a hand let me know :y
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 15 August 2010, 23:02:52
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I'm going for these from buypartsby:-

Part Number : RJ6211
 Cost : £38.82 + vat
 
 Coil Spring       
 
 Model: OMEGA B 2.6
 Year range:  01/00-12/04
 Location: RR
 Extra info:  Saloon
 Heavy Duty
 Mini-Bloc type
 Petrol

I thought the heavy duty would be better for towing.

Anyone got any thoughts on them please?

They'll do nicely B :y

Cheers :y

If you need a hand let me know :y

Cheers, again :y
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 19 August 2010, 06:48:52
Big thanks to TB.

Rear springs replaced, spring assister's fitted.

Took a bit of persuading to get them seated, bit of modification to TB's home made spring compressors, but we got there in the end.

Cups of tea provided by Mrs TB, pie and chips from the local chippie.

The wrong springs had been fitted, hence why the photo's didn't look right.

Handling is now much improved.



Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 19 August 2010, 13:59:15
Mud flaps fitted this morning - getting there.
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: TheBoy on 19 August 2010, 20:18:54
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Big thanks to TB.

Rear springs replaced, spring assister's fitted.

Took a bit of persuading to get them seated, bit of modification to TB's home made spring compressors, but we got there in the end.

Cups of tea provided by Mrs TB, pie and chips from the local chippie.

The wrong springs had been fitted, hence why the photo's didn't look right.

Handling is now much improved.



You're welcome.

The springs weren't broken, they just weren't Omega ones. And very, very short ;D ;D


The replacements were heavy duties, along with the spring assisters, a bitch to fit.  I reckon it looked a shade high now, but would be interesting to see what its like with the pikey wagon hitched up :y
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 19 August 2010, 22:44:09
It rides half an inch higher than my old 2.2.
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 20 August 2010, 07:12:56
Forgot to mention, broke a socket, trying to undo the front wheel bolts, all nicely greased up and torqued properly now though.
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Jimbob on 20 August 2010, 07:42:22
can't see 1/2 inch making much differnce, bet the ride will be better with the van on the back, and may not even need the assisters.
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 20 August 2010, 07:54:36
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can't see 1/2 inch making much differnce, bet the ride will be better with the van on the back, and may not even need the assisters.

Got the assisters fitted, driving back from Blackley, ride was much improved, even over the speed bumps ;D
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 20 August 2010, 08:10:14
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It rides half an inch higher than my old 2.2.


Its bound to be, it has heavy duty springs and spring assistors
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: TheBoy on 20 August 2010, 16:36:04
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can't see 1/2 inch making much differnce, bet the ride will be better with the van on the back, and may not even need the assisters.

Got the assisters fitted, driving back from Blackley, ride was much improved, even over the speed bumps ;D
No shortage of speed bumps around these parts.  Fortunately, we don't have any speed cameras within 5 miles, nor those other stupid traffic calming chicanes....
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 20 August 2010, 22:26:56
Big thank you to Wellung for coming over to do the breathers.

One pipe was split, another was totally bunged up.

Engine management didn't come on when we started it, thought we had magicaly cured it, but it's come back on again now.

Will clear the codes in the morning, and run diagnostics on it again.

Changed the spark plugs at the same time, which were well overdue by the looks of them. Surprise, surprise, guess how tight the old ones  were >:(

Hopefully, only the front wheel bearing, door lock (new one kindly supplied by Wellung), O2 emmissions fault and cam belt to do now, apart from a few dash bulbs.

Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Welung666 on 21 August 2010, 17:39:01
As always, a pleasure to see you again B :y You know where I am if you need any more help :y

I have to say this is another immaculate car that you have, definately up to your impecable standards. Shame about the EML re-appearing though :Y
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 22 August 2010, 08:05:24
More problems, (have I bought a pig in a poke?).

Rear seat lap strap missing, never noticed that when I bought it.

Passenger seat motor only clicks when you operate the button.

Ignition key has started sticking in the lock.

After doing the breathers, and taking it for a good run yesterday, engine is running like a 3 legged dog.

Depressed :(

Mrs AA's not a happy bunny, had to ride in the back as she can't adjust the seat properly.
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Jimbob on 22 August 2010, 08:25:18
Thats disappointing

Fault codes?  air leak?

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1163236766
may sort your seat issue  :y
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 22 August 2010, 08:33:19
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Thats disappointing

Fault codes?  air leak?

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1163236766
may sort your seat issue  :y

Thanks for that.

Interesting, I can now get rid of the fault codes, drive it, and the engine management light stays off.

Stop, and restart it, light comes back on with the the same fault codes as posted earlier.

Must be an air leak, I think, wish I knew more about these V6's, still struggling to find my way around the bloody thing, even after helping, watching Wellung take the thing to bits.

Still don't think I've got the confidence to do it on my own yet. :(

Hands and fingers losing some of their strength :(
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Jimbob on 22 August 2010, 08:41:40
Eml - just the O2 fault?

air leak - spray carb cleaner around the engine with it idling, if the note changes, you have a leak....good time to polish it up too  :y
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 22 August 2010, 10:32:29
So, what are the codes that keep coming back? Just the O2 heater warning?

I wonder if this is only triggered when starting cold?

Do you still have a large fuel trim on one bank only? That could be a clue. Maybe an air leak into that bank, exhaust manifold drawing in air or just a dead lambda sensor, I suppose.

Kevin
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 22 August 2010, 12:11:43
Right, Mrs AA can now sit in the front seat, thank's to Marks guide, and Jimbob pointing me into the right direction.

Don't know what I was thinking about, it's got a 3 point centre belt in the rear :-[

Re-seated the 4 pipes at the back of the plenum, seems a bit better now.

Cleared the codes, started it and got:-

P0135 -(2) O2 Sensor Heater Circuit Low Voltage (Bank 1 Sensor 1) - Intermitant.

P0135 - (8) O2 Sensor Heater Circuit Malfuction (Bank 1 Sensor 1) - Intermitant.

No EML.

Took it for a run:-

as above +

P0135 -(4) O2 Sensor Heater Circuit Open (Bank 1 Sensor 1) - Not Present.

P0136 -(4) O2 Sensor Heater Circuit Detected (Bank 1 Sensor 1) - Intermitant.

Switched off - re-started EML on.

Same codes.

Engine temperature doesn't seem to run much above 80.
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: TheBoy on 22 August 2010, 14:39:07
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Right, Mrs AA can now sit in the front seat, thank's to Marks guide, and Jimbob pointing me into the right direction.

Don't know what I was thinking about, it's got a 3 point centre belt in the rear :-[

Re-seated the 4 pipes at the back of the plenum, seems a bit better now.

Cleared the codes, started it and got:-

P0135 -(2) O2 Sensor Heater Circuit Low Voltage (Bank 1 Sensor 1) - Intermitant.

P0135 - (8) O2 Sensor Heater Circuit Malfuction (Bank 1 Sensor 1) - Intermitant.

No EML.

Took it for a run:-

as above +

P0135 -(4) O2 Sensor Heater Circuit Open (Bank 1 Sensor 1) - Not Present.

P0136 -(4) O2 Sensor Heater Circuit Detected (Bank 1 Sensor 1) - Intermitant.

Switched off - re-started EML on.

Same codes.

Engine temperature doesn't seem to run much above 80.
Stat sounds knackered. Not a big issue, but something you'll want to get sorted eventually. Fortunately a good guide ::), probably still in test area, unless JB has got round to merging it to our existing guide ;D

Might be worth getting someone at Newent to monitor the lamdas when you go for a drive, though initial thoughts are the lamda wiring looks suspicious.  The fact that its one bank only makes me think it probably isn't MAF
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Welung666 on 22 August 2010, 14:45:18
I've got a few lambda sensors sitting around. anyone know the part numbers for these and I'll check if I have the right ones?
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 22 August 2010, 18:14:30
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I've got a few lambda sensors sitting around. anyone know the part numbers for these and I'll check if I have the right ones?

Trade Club quote 9195606 for a 2.6 Lambda Sensor.
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Welung666 on 22 August 2010, 20:12:59
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I've got a few lambda sensors sitting around. anyone know the part numbers for these and I'll check if I have the right ones?

Trade Club quote 9195606 for a 2.6 Lambda Sensor.

I'll have a look in work in the morning, they are in a box there :y
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Welung666 on 24 August 2010, 08:45:31
Had a look and I've only got 1 lambda in the box and the part number is 09 202 576 which I believe is off a 2.2.
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 24 August 2010, 09:05:17
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Had a look and I've only got 1 lambda in the box and the part number is 09 202 576 which I believe is off a 2.2.

No worries, thanks for looking.
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 24 August 2010, 12:09:20
Cracked it!

Second oil change, and no oil in my hair :y

 :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 24 August 2010, 15:41:02
Forgot to mention, re-seated the tubes at the back of the plenum, clicked the eco strip home by the last couple of mm.

Running like a dream now (nearly as quick as my old 2.2) ;D

Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Welung666 on 24 August 2010, 15:52:27
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Forgot to mention, re-seated the tubes at the back of the plenum, clicked the eco strip home by the last couple of mm.

Running like a dream now (nearly as quick as my old 2.2) ;D


I thought that might have been the case  :y
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 24 August 2010, 16:48:24
To flush or not to flush?

2nd oil change after 200 miles was as black as the ace of spades.

What do you recon?
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Jimbob on 24 August 2010, 16:52:42
Id just stick to some low mileage changes....its what im doing here  :y
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 24 August 2010, 16:58:05
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Id just stick to some low mileage changes....its what im doing here  :y

Yes, I don't like flushing engines.

Recon it would be a good idea to take the sump off, and give it a good clean out?
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Jimbob on 24 August 2010, 17:04:17
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Id just stick to some low mileage changes....its what im doing here  :y

Yes, I don't like flushing engines.

Recon it would be a good idea to take the sump off, and give it a good clean out?


Seems to be a bit of a trend of it at the mo....shouldnt hurt and you know that pickup pipe is clear.

Im thinking some oil changes till you get a few thousand miles between changes, then clear out the rest of the crap manually may be an idea  :-/
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 24 August 2010, 17:06:51
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Id just stick to some low mileage changes....its what im doing here  :y

Yes, I don't like flushing engines.

Recon it would be a good idea to take the sump off, and give it a good clean out?


Seems to be a bit of a trend of it at the mo....shouldnt hurt and you know that pickup pipe is clear.

Im thinking some oil changes till you get a few thousand miles between changes, then clear out the rest of the crap manually may be an idea  :-/

You've got the job! ;D
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: TheBoy on 24 August 2010, 22:03:01
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Forgot to mention, re-seated the tubes at the back of the plenum, clicked the eco strip home by the last couple of mm.

Running like a dream now (nearly as quick as my old 2.2) ;D

45mph? :o

;)
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: TheBoy on 24 August 2010, 22:03:14
I too vote lots of short oil changes....
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 25 August 2010, 08:41:02
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Forgot to mention, re-seated the tubes at the back of the plenum, clicked the eco strip home by the last couple of mm.

Running like a dream now (nearly as quick as my old 2.2) ;D

45mph? :o

;)

When you drove it, you only did 25 mph :D
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 25 August 2010, 17:22:57
Strange, for a short period today, the central locking worked off the key fob :-/
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 26 August 2010, 10:44:44
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Strange, for a short period today, the central locking worked off the key fob :-/

Working again today.

Is it because I've been spraying the lock mechanism with liberal amounts of silicone lubricant?

Time will tell.
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 29 August 2010, 11:47:35
Right, I'm about to change my front brake pads, is there anything I need to know?
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Jimbob on 29 August 2010, 12:30:31
erm, 1 that springs to mind is open the bleed nipple before pushing the caliper back in, gets rid of more old fluid, and reduces risk of inverting the master cylinder.  :y
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 29 August 2010, 12:35:46
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erm, 1 that springs to mind is open the bleed nipple before pushing the caliper back in, gets rid of more old fluid, and reduces risk of inverting the master cylinder.  :y

Got no brake fluid, left it at Marks :(
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 31 August 2010, 16:38:14
Another job under the belt, changed the brake fluid & bled the brakes.

(It was a bit difficult trying to keep my foot on the brake pedal, whilst reaching under the car to tighten the bleed nipple, but using a telescopic flexible shaft ring spanner, just managed it).

 ;)
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 31 August 2010, 16:49:04
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Another job under the belt, changed the brake fluid & bled the brakes.

(It was a bit difficult trying to keep my foot on the brake pedal, whilst reaching under the car to tighten the bleed nipple, but using a telescopic flexible shaft ring spanner, just managed it).

 ;)

Sounds like you need a broom stick to push the brake pedal while you're round the back. Works on a Westfield, anyway. :y

There'll be nothing to do at Newent at this rate.

Kevin
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 31 August 2010, 17:46:14
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Another job under the belt, changed the brake fluid & bled the brakes.

(It was a bit difficult trying to keep my foot on the brake pedal, whilst reaching under the car to tighten the bleed nipple, but using a telescopic flexible shaft ring spanner, just managed it).

 ;)

Sounds like you need a broom stick to push the brake pedal while you're round the back. Works on a Westfield, anyway. :y

There'll be nothing to do at Newent at this rate.

Kevin

Don't you believe it! :D
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: joshwyatt on 31 August 2010, 18:07:17
How do you find it going from a 2.2 144bhp Omega to a 179bhp one after having a 2.2 for a long period?
I had a 2.2 CDX manual for 15 months or so, bought it with 28k, and it was very nice. I always thought it was adequate in the power department, nothing amazing but good enough. I found the extra 35bhp and 2 cylninders of the 2.6 made such a big difference. I now have a 2003 2.6 Elite manual, and find it much better to drive. It requires less effort, even when just potting about on country lanes - there's no real need to change down a gear as it has enough power.
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 31 August 2010, 18:40:30
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How do you find it going from a 2.2 144bhp Omega to a 179bhp one after having a 2.2 for a long period?
I had a 2.2 CDX manual for 15 months or so, bought it with 28k, and it was very nice. I always thought it was adequate in the power department, nothing amazing but good enough. I found the extra 35bhp and 2 cylninders of the 2.6 made such a big difference. I now have a 2003 2.6 Elite manual, and find it much better to drive. It requires less effort, even when just potting about on country lanes - there's no real need to change down a gear as it has enough power.

Hopefully, when all the problems with it are sorted this weekend at Newent, I will say it is a far superior car, but, at the moment, can't say I've noticed a lot of difference.
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 02 September 2010, 09:36:36
I'm sweating on a water pump arriving today, can you still change the cam belt on a 2.6 without changing the water pump?
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Jimbob on 02 September 2010, 09:39:52
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I'm sweating on a water pump arriving today, can you still change the cam belt on a 2.6 without changing the water pump?


yes its optional...most of us would change every other belt change...or at the 1st when you own the car. 
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 02 September 2010, 09:47:20
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I'm sweating on a water pump arriving today, can you still change the cam belt on a 2.6 without changing the water pump?


yes its optional...most of us would change every other belt change...or at the 1st when you own the car. 

Thanks.
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 02 September 2010, 10:39:44
I have a spare V6 water pump (non-gen from AutoVaux, IIRC) if you're stuck. Might even find somewhere to pack it...

Kevin
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: TheBoy on 02 September 2010, 11:07:23
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I have a spare V6 water pump (non-gen from AutoVaux, IIRC) if you're stuck. Might even find somewhere to pack it...

Kevin
Pop it in Mrs KW's handbag, she won't notice :P
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 02 September 2010, 12:42:21
Sweat over, it's just arrived, thank's anyway KW :y
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 02 September 2010, 12:44:16
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I have a spare V6 water pump (non-gen from AutoVaux, IIRC) if you're stuck. Might even find somewhere to pack it...

Kevin
Pop it in Mrs KW's handbag, she won't notice :P

True enough, with all the other sheight that's in there. ;D

Kevin
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 02 September 2010, 12:49:15
Yeh, sounds about right, my Mrs's hand bag I am sure used to belong to Sport Billy, its the only explanation as to how she gets so much crap stuff in it.
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 02 September 2010, 13:52:29
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Yeh, sounds about right, my Mrs's hand bag I am sure used to belong to Sport Billy, its the only explanation as to how she gets so much crap stuff in it.

 ;D
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Martin_1962 on 02 September 2010, 21:04:38
Sue only has two, whe has a large red one with attached monkey (looked up - Kipling) and a holiday bag called an Old Bag ;D ;D

And stuffed full of gumpf.
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 02 September 2010, 21:58:11
Oi! You lot, what have handbags got to do with my project >:(

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 03 September 2010, 00:24:13
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Sue only has two, whe has a large red one with attached monkey (looked up - Kipling) and a holiday bag called an Old Bag ;D ;D

And stuffed full of gumpf.

Tripping over the ruddy things here,  and don't get me started on the shoes. ::)

Kevin
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 05 September 2010, 18:08:20
Car now sorted, thanks to the great Newent crowd. :y
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: TheBoy on 05 September 2010, 18:32:32
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Sue only has two, whe has a large red one with attached monkey (looked up - Kipling) and a holiday bag called an Old Bag ;D ;D

And stuffed full of gumpf.

Tripping over the ruddy things here,  and don't get me started on the shoes. ::)

Kevin
Then there's the ones she bought yesterday ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: feeutfo on 05 September 2010, 19:30:58
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Sue only has two, whe has a large red one with attached monkey (looked up - Kipling) and a holiday bag called an Old Bag ;D ;D

And stuffed full of gumpf.

Tripping over the ruddy things here,  and don't get me started on the shoes. ::)

Kevin
Then there's the ones she bought yesterday ;D ;D ;D
:-X :o
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Jimbob on 05 September 2010, 19:32:20
ohh yes, we are not meant to tell Kevin about those extra handbags she bought are we  :y

Mums the word  :y
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: CaptainZok on 05 September 2010, 20:07:16
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ohh yes, we are not meant to tell Kevin about those extra handbags she bought are we  :y

Mums the word  :y
Yup sworn to secrecy about those. ;D
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: TheBoy on 05 September 2010, 21:01:45
We wouldn't mutter a word....
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 07 September 2010, 12:25:05
Just done 3rd oil change 200 miles/200 miles/300 miles.

Still coming out pretty black, but not quite so much sludge.
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: TheBoy on 07 September 2010, 18:42:45
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Just done 3rd oil change 200 miles/200 miles/300 miles.

Still coming out pretty black, but not quite so much sludge.
Keep it up, it will improve. Probably OK to move to 500m changes now though :y
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 07 September 2010, 19:08:39
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Just done 3rd oil change 200 miles/200 miles/300 miles.

Still coming out pretty black, but not quite so much sludge.
Keep it up, it will improve. Probably OK to move to 500m changes now though :y

Anybody want to buy any second hand oil, going cheap :D
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: bigegg on 07 September 2010, 21:28:59
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Anybody want to buy any second hand oil, going cheap :D[/quote]

I'd have it from you, if you were closer to leeds.

www.backyardmetalcasting.com

I melt stuff, to make stuff :.)

Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 07 September 2010, 21:38:11
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Anybody want to buy any second hand oil, going cheap :D

I'd have it from you, if you were closer to leeds.

www.backyardmetalcasting.com

I melt stuff, to make stuff :.)

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Very interesting indeed Big :y - am impressed 8-) :y :y
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: bigegg on 07 September 2010, 21:58:02
ta.
I cast a replica of my 1yo nephew's hand, in aluminium[1] last year as a birthday present.
first time I've EVER seen my sister speechless.

[1] actually a melted-down mondeo alloy wheel.
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 09 September 2010, 19:53:17
Thanks to the 'Master' last night, who did alot of re-soldering and heat sinking on the wiring of the O2 sensor, I now have only 2 intermitant codes.

Problem not cured, but he's working on it.

EML did come on today, still only showing 2 codes instead of 4, cleared it, and as yet, no codes are showing.
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: TheBoy on 09 September 2010, 19:55:20
Hmmm, proving to be challenge...  ...still, Master likes a challenge ;D
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 09 September 2010, 19:55:54
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Hmmm, proving to be challenge...  ...still, Master likes a challenge ;D

He has a solution..... ;)
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 09 September 2010, 19:56:42
Just waiting till he semi-retires at the end of the month.
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: TheBoy on 09 September 2010, 19:57:19
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Hmmm, proving to be challenge...  ...still, Master likes a challenge ;D

He has a solution..... ;)
Stick Pikey palace on back, 2 gallons of 4 star, 1 match?
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 09 September 2010, 20:00:18
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Hmmm, proving to be challenge...  ...still, Master likes a challenge ;D

He has a solution..... ;)
Stick Pikey palace on back, 2 gallons of 4 star, 1 match?

 :( :( :( :(
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 17 October 2010, 09:00:13
Simple job? Not!

The ignition key occassionaly sticks in the barrel, so, armed with the excellent guides written by Mark & Matchless I thought I would cure it, only to find someone had been there before me.

The bottom screw has been cream crackered, virtually no head on it, would be the bottom one as you can't see what you are doing.

Tried an 'easy out' but as you can't see what you're doing, had no success.

Apart from breaking the bottom cowl, I'm at a loss of what to do.

 :(





Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 17 October 2010, 17:55:16
The good news is the gasket has arrived!
Title: Re: Project AA.
Post by: Auto Addict on 17 October 2010, 18:05:53
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The good news is the gasket has arrived!

 :y