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Title: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: feeutfo on 16 October 2010, 19:13:24
How do they get MORE oil in the filter housing than in the entire bloody sump, hmm? I mean what is it, a Tardis in there? Ffs! Oil everywhere!  >:(

Ahem, sorry, rant over, but I am intrigued, how do those of you with a nice paved driveway keep it clean when changing the oil filter? I had two towels on a large rubber mat, an oil drain in metal tray and it STIlL managed to touch Tarmac. .???

I suppose I should be happy I could remove it at all, it still took a two foot extention bar to shift it.
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: Andy B on 16 October 2010, 19:37:42
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How do they get MORE oil in the filter housing than in the entire bloody sump, hmm? I mean what is it, a Tardis in there? Ffs! Oil everywhere!  >:(
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Ahem, sorry, rant over, but I am intrigued, how do those of you with a nice paved driveway keep it clean when changing the oil filter? I had two towels on a large rubber mat, an oil drain in metal tray and it STIlL managed to touch Tarmac. .???

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Somewhere in the sh1t hole that used to be my garage  ::), I have a funnel with a length of hose connected to it. Slacken the filter housing & let as much oil drain into the funnel .... trying to make sure the hose stays in the catch tray. It's not perfect but helps.  :y


Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: PhilRich on 16 October 2010, 19:38:35
Commiserations Chris! ;)
Ive got a 12foot square sheet of black PVC the roofers used as temporary weatherproofing when they repaired my kitchen roof, I used it once and ....no mess! brilliant!! :D Second & subsequent times, couldn't be arsed to open it up & drive on it, so just folded it & slid it under the engine, result....oil stains all over the place! I'm convinced someone shoves the pvc out of the way while i've got my head in the engine bay!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)



























Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: waspy on 16 October 2010, 19:45:09
I just let it go on the drive ;D :y

I look at folk's drives that are all nice & prim, i just think "give me a week" ;D
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: albitz on 16 October 2010, 20:21:34
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I just let it go on the drive ;D :y

I look at folk's drives that are all nice & prim, i just think "give me a week" ;D
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Me too. :y ;D ;D.........I did my first facelift oil change recently. I was glad I bought the car from a fellow OOFer. Oil filter housing was easy to get off, also noticed crank sensor wiring correctly routed etc. Oil came out of the sump looking like golden syrup, as it has been changed regularily.Climate and transmission had the Tech2 updates already installed.
I nice experience after my first Mig. It had been serviced by VX and I quickly grew to hate it, due to all the trouble it gave.
Thankyou Johnnycboy. :y :)
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: feeutfo on 16 October 2010, 21:27:47
Bp could not make a bigger mess of my drive...it was buggerd when we moved and is fubar now.  :-[


I did wonder about some sort of funnel arrangement, but could not really see how to get it in the space and still get me arm in there to undo the cap...?

Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: Andy B on 16 October 2010, 21:37:52
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I did wonder about some sort of funnel arrangement, but could not really see how to get it in the space and still get me arm in there to undo the cap...?


is your car on the ground or on ramps?
I do an oil change on ramps & can reach the filter housing from underneath.
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: tunnie on 16 October 2010, 21:38:13
another victory for the far superior 2.2  :P

I much prefer the spin-on oil filters  :)
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: feeutfo on 16 October 2010, 21:55:10
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I did wonder about some sort of funnel arrangement, but could not really see how to get it in the space and still get me arm in there to undo the cap...?


is your car on the ground or on ramps?
I do an oil change on ramps & can reach the filter housing from underneath.
On the ground/stands both sides....
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: feeutfo on 16 October 2010, 21:56:24
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another victory for the far superior 2.2  :P

I much prefer the spin-on oil filters  :)
;D oh alright you can have that one  ::)
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 16 October 2010, 22:42:39
It's simple. I just make sure my elbow is over the drip tray because that's where all the oil goes. >:(

Kevin
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: aaronjb on 16 October 2010, 22:44:19
See what I do is make sure I do all these kinds of things over my mates pit .. that way I tend to soak up most of the oil with my forehead and/or T-shirt..  ;D
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 16 October 2010, 22:47:41
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See what I do is make sure I do all these kinds of things over my mates pit .. that way I tend to soak up most of the oil with my forehead and/or T-shirt..  ;D

Yeah, sometimes it just run straight past my elbow and end up in my (arm)pit. ;D

Kevin
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: VXL V6 on 17 October 2010, 10:26:34
I have a pack of those long gloves that vets use for examining large animals  ::), pop one of those on and it doesn't matter how much oil runs down your arm!
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: TheBoy on 17 October 2010, 10:53:42
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Ahem, sorry, rant over, but I am intrigued, how do those of you with a nice paved driveway keep it clean when changing the oil filter? I had two towels on a large rubber mat, an oil drain in metal tray and it STIlL managed to touch Tarmac. .???
I use Tunnie's driveway ;D ;D ;D


I use one of those large oilpans from Machine Mart. Positioned under filter, its large enough to catch the drips from filter, and also where it drips off tie rod and subframe.
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: tunnie on 17 October 2010, 10:58:29
those oil pans from machine mart do the business, easy to drain away afterwards and can fit under the car when its been lowered
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: feeutfo on 17 October 2010, 11:06:34
This one?
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/14-litre-oil-drain-pan/path/lubrication-fuel-transfer-equipment

ooh I reckon I could still make a right mess with that whem emptying  ;D
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: tunnie on 17 October 2010, 11:08:48
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This one?
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/14-litre-oil-drain-pan/path/lubrication-fuel-transfer-equipment

ooh I reckon I could still make a right mess with that whem emptying  ;D

Yup thats the one  :y

I keep a 20L drum for old oil, that drain neck is handy for pouring into the drum, it can drip afterwards though, so needs stuffing with a rag when done
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: dragonlord on 17 October 2010, 11:25:52
put jack in boot go for a late night spin and do it in tescos car park :y

or on you local mp`s drive way

only a sugestion lol ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: Welung666 on 17 October 2010, 12:16:22
I have one of these...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1m-x-1m-Cement,-Mortar,-Plastering-Mixing-Tray-_W0QQitemZ370373388858QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=154611785874&rvr_id=154611785874&cguid=217744341280a0aad3f129d1fefb258d

Saves no end of mess doing ATF changes too ;) :y
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: TheBoy on 17 October 2010, 13:27:16
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This one?
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/14-litre-oil-drain-pan/path/lubrication-fuel-transfer-equipment

ooh I reckon I could still make a right mess with that whem emptying  ;D
Aye. As it happens, I've just walked out of machine mart (vat free day here)
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: scimmy_man on 18 October 2010, 12:20:53
I have a couple of cat litter trays, a quid or so each.
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: feeutfo on 18 October 2010, 15:11:46
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I have a couple of cat litter trays, a quid or so each.

yes so did I, placed nicely under the car, carefully and precisely placed to allow for wind direction, would take 6 liters so big enough....right that “cant possibly” go wrong.....so left it to drip out, while i did the oil filter and clean up the mess on the pass side, finnish that and walk round the front only to find a river of oil running out from the side of the car all round the front tyre, aaaaaassheeet, poxy cat litter tray had split as its not oil resistant.....ffs. >:(

Ahahahaa  :-X ::) ;D
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: P_Russell on 18 October 2010, 16:11:26
Just open it over the street drain (outside the neighbours house of course).

Simple, no mess, no disposal issues!  ;D
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: TheBoy on 18 October 2010, 18:10:27
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Just open it over the street drain (outside the neighbours house of course).

Simple, no mess, no disposal issues!  ;D
I've been known to use your bro's driveway.  Considering the mess, I thought he took rather well ;D
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: scimmy_man on 18 October 2010, 19:39:28
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I have a couple of cat litter trays, a quid or so each.

yes so did I, placed nicely under the car, carefully and precisely placed to allow for wind direction, would take 6 liters so big enough....right that “cant possibly” go wrong.....so left it to drip out, while i did the oil filter and clean up the mess on the pass side, finnish that and walk round the front only to find a river of oil running out from the side of the car all round the front tyre, aaaaaassheeet, poxy cat litter tray had split as its not oil resistant.....ffs. >:(

Ahahahaa  :-X ::) ;D

Hmm I have had these for a few years now no problem,
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: feeutfo on 18 October 2010, 21:18:30
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I have a couple of cat litter trays, a quid or so each.

yes so did I, placed nicely under the car, carefully and precisely placed to allow for wind direction, would take 6 liters so big enough....right that “cant possibly” go wrong.....so left it to drip out, while i did the oil filter and clean up the mess on the pass side, finnish that and walk round the front only to find a river of oil running out from the side of the car all round the front tyre, aaaaaassheeet, poxy cat litter tray had split as its not oil resistant.....ffs. >:(

Ahahahaa  :-X ::) ;D

Hmm I have had these for a few years now no problem,
Any day now then...?  :-X
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: scimmy_man on 19 October 2010, 17:22:21
I will let you know ;D
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: Pitchfork on 19 October 2010, 17:30:21
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Just open it over the street drain (outside the neighbours house of course).

Simple, no mess, no disposal issues!  ;D
That is illegal!!
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: Seth on 19 October 2010, 18:28:28
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This one?
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/14-litre-oil-drain-pan/path/lubrication-fuel-transfer-equipment

ooh I reckon I could still make a right mess with that whem emptying  ;D

Same as the jobbie that I brought along to Newent 2010 :y
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: TheBoy on 19 October 2010, 18:48:47
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That is illegal!!
/Hotel21 voice on

Thats an unwell bird

/Hotel21 voice off
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: Debs. on 19 October 2010, 19:37:17
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That is illegal!!
/Hotel21 voice on
Thats an unwell bird

/Hotel21 voice off

Cue the triplet-attentive, rhetorical interrogative:

"Ello, Ello, Ello....what`s all this then?" ;D
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: Auto Addict on 20 October 2010, 14:22:35
I use a washing up bowl from the £1 shop, can't remember how much it was though ::)
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: scimmy_man on 20 October 2010, 17:43:28
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I use a washing up bowl from the £1 shop, can't remember how much it was though ::)

no doubt someone will tell you it wont last ;D
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: TheBoy on 20 October 2010, 18:59:16
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I use a washing up bowl from the £1 shop, can't remember how much it was though ::)

no doubt someone will tell you it wont last ;D
Usually, they are too high, so get damaged when you lower car with it still under. Worse case, it'll split...

I did use one of those under-bed storage boxes on wheels, but guess they weren't designed for heat/cold cycles, and one day the hot oil eventually made a bid for freedom, all over my drive.

Hence I stick to the proper tool.
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: Jimbob on 20 October 2010, 19:19:11
I went though a variety of household containers....till i saw the 'machine mart pan' in use...

Bought one, and never looked back, yes it is an expensive bowl, but I think its been worth every penny

Great for coolant, oil, atf, Even big enough to do 2 omega oil changes before emptying (both straight after each other, not 3 months apart or sommat  ;D )
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: feeutfo on 20 October 2010, 19:31:07
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I went though a variety of household containers....till i saw the 'machine mart pan' in use...

Bought one, and never looked back, yes it is an expensive bowl, but I think its been worth every penny

Great for coolant, oil, atf, Even big enough to do 2 omega oil changes before emptying (both straight after each other, not 3 months apart or sommat  ;D )
Three months? I would have stepped in it long before then knowing my luck.  :D
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: Andy B on 20 October 2010, 20:06:25
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.....till i saw the 'machine mart pan' in use...

Bought one, and never looked back,  ....

Which pan are you using? This ..... ? http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/14-litre-oil-drain-pan/path/lubrication-fuel-transfer-equipment

Father Christmas brought me one of these ...... http://www.frost.co.uk/item_Detail.asp?productID=8743&frostProductName=Drainmaster%20(14%20litres) a few years back. The grille over the 'fill hole' is great for catching the sump plug.  :y  :y
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: Jimbob on 20 October 2010, 20:09:24
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.....till i saw the 'machine mart pan' in use...

Bought one, and never looked back,  ....

Which pan are you using? This ..... ? http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/14-litre-oil-drain-pan/path/lubrication-fuel-transfer-equipment

Father Christmas brought me one of these ...... http://www.frost.co.uk/item_Detail.asp?productID=8743&frostProductName=Drainmaster%20(14%20litres) a few years back. The grille over the 'fill hole' is great for catching the sump plug.  :y  :y


Yes, thats the one.

I like yours, but a double edged sword.....that grille looks very handy, but I prefer the overall size of mine, can always get that plug back as you drain it.

Looks to seal up?  handy for a quick tip run.
I just keep a 20litre drum for any 'dodgy fluids'
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: Andy B on 20 October 2010, 20:13:29
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 but I prefer the overall size of mine
  :-? They're both 14 litres   ;)  ;)  :y

 
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can always get that plug back as you drain it
Not sure what you mean .....  :-/


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Looks to seal up?  handy for a quick tip run.....
It does & it is  :y
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: TheBoy on 20 October 2010, 20:15:43
The MM one is reasonably well thought it - the rim overhangs the inside, making it harder (not impossible though ::)) to slop it out.  Large area, low height, spout to empty.
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: Andy B on 20 October 2010, 20:15:58
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....can always get that plug back as you drain it. .....

Sorry! I get what you mean now!
But that means rumaging about in hot oil at the bottom of the pan.  ;D   ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: Jimbob on 20 October 2010, 20:16:36
I meant the overall diameter of the opening  :y

You dropped plug is left accessible on the grille...

mine is available after draining as the nozzle is smaller than a plug  :y

Think that clarifies  :y
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: Andy B on 20 October 2010, 20:18:04
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The MM one is reasonably well thought it - the rim overhangs the inside, making it harder (not impossible though ::)) to slop it out.  Large area, low height, spout to empty.

but ...... mine has a big lid for the top, a spout with a cap for emptying it & wheels on to drag it out from under the car on!  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

15/15  :y
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: TheBoy on 20 October 2010, 20:20:19
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The MM one is reasonably well thought it - the rim overhangs the inside, making it harder (not impossible though ::)) to slop it out.  Large area, low height, spout to empty.

but ...... mine has a big lid for the top, a spout with a cap for emptying it & wheels on to drag it out from under the car on!  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

15/15  :y
Sorry, Mr B, I wasn't debating which was best, I was simply pointing out my musings on the MM one, that I've been using for 3 or 4 years now.  Nothing more, nothing less ;)
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: Andy B on 20 October 2010, 20:24:52
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Sorry, Mr B, I wasn't debating which was best, I was simply pointing out my musings on the MM one, that I've been using for 3 or 4 years now.  Nothing more, nothing less ;)

 OK  :-X  ::)
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: scimmy_man on 20 October 2010, 20:41:44
cough!

http://www.pet-supermarket.co.uk/products-Van-Ness-Cat-Pan_CA0876.htm
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: feeutfo on 20 October 2010, 21:51:18
Is the machine mart one big enough to catch the mess from the oill filter, AND still catch the oil drain at the same time ?

Looks like it is  :-/
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: Jimbob on 20 October 2010, 21:52:18
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Is the machine mart one big enough to catch the mess from the oill filter, AND still catch the oil drain at the same time ?

Looks like it is  :-/


Yup  :y

I wouldnt say either is best.....both have their plus points, and I wouldnt swap  :y
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: TheBoy on 20 October 2010, 21:58:27
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Is the machine mart one big enough to catch the mess from the oill filter, AND still catch the oil drain at the same time ?

Looks like it is  :-/
Hmmm, I don't do that. I tend to do one completely, they do the other.  I guess thats why I rarely get oil on the drive when changing oil.

Obviously, I get oil all over the drive all the rest of the time, just not when changing oil  :-[
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: feeutfo on 20 October 2010, 22:12:14
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Is the machine mart one big enough to catch the mess from the oill filter, AND still catch the oil drain at the same time ?

Looks like it is  :-/
Hmmm, I don't do that. I tend to do one completely, they do the other.  I guess thats why I rarely get oil on the drive when changing oil.

Obviously, I get oil all over the drive all the rest of the time, just not when changing oil  :-[

I always intend to do the oil first, but I can't just sit there and wait no matter how hard I try, got to go and do the filter while the sump drains, and drains to the last drop almost


And thanks Jimbob. :y
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: Auto Addict on 21 October 2010, 07:17:40
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I use a washing up bowl from the £1 shop, can't remember how much it was though ::)

no doubt someone will tell you it wont last ;D
Usually, they are too high, so get damaged when you lower car with it still under. Worse case, it'll split...

I did use one of those under-bed storage boxes on wheels, but guess they weren't designed for heat/cold cycles, and one day the hot oil eventually made a bid for freedom, all over my drive.

Hence I stick to the proper tool.

8 years old now, and still going strong, left outside in all weathers.
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: Debs. on 21 October 2010, 11:47:15
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8 years old now, and still going strong, left outside in all weathers.

 :P Poor li`l blighter; you should be had-up for child abuse! ;D
Title: Re: Poxy oil filter housing.
Post by: Auto Addict on 21 October 2010, 15:31:10
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8 years old now, and still going strong, left outside in all weathers.

 :P Poor li`l blighter; you should be had-up for child abuse! ;D

Used again today, have to wear rubber gloves to handle it. :D