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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: feeutfo on 16 October 2010, 19:13:24
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How do they get MORE oil in the filter housing than in the entire bloody sump, hmm? I mean what is it, a Tardis in there? Ffs! Oil everywhere! >:(
Ahem, sorry, rant over, but I am intrigued, how do those of you with a nice paved driveway keep it clean when changing the oil filter? I had two towels on a large rubber mat, an oil drain in metal tray and it STIlL managed to touch Tarmac. .???
I suppose I should be happy I could remove it at all, it still took a two foot extention bar to shift it.
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How do they get MORE oil in the filter housing than in the entire bloody sump, hmm? I mean what is it, a Tardis in there? Ffs! Oil everywhere! >:(
;D ;D ;D ;D
Ahem, sorry, rant over, but I am intrigued, how do those of you with a nice paved driveway keep it clean when changing the oil filter? I had two towels on a large rubber mat, an oil drain in metal tray and it STIlL managed to touch Tarmac. .???
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Somewhere in the sh1t hole that used to be my garage ::), I have a funnel with a length of hose connected to it. Slacken the filter housing & let as much oil drain into the funnel .... trying to make sure the hose stays in the catch tray. It's not perfect but helps. :y
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Commiserations Chris! ;)
Ive got a 12foot square sheet of black PVC the roofers used as temporary weatherproofing when they repaired my kitchen roof, I used it once and ....no mess! brilliant!! :D Second & subsequent times, couldn't be arsed to open it up & drive on it, so just folded it & slid it under the engine, result....oil stains all over the place! I'm convinced someone shoves the pvc out of the way while i've got my head in the engine bay!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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I just let it go on the drive ;D :y
I look at folk's drives that are all nice & prim, i just think "give me a week" ;D
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I just let it go on the drive ;D :y
I look at folk's drives that are all nice & prim, i just think "give me a week" ;D
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Me too. :y ;D ;D.........I did my first facelift oil change recently. I was glad I bought the car from a fellow OOFer. Oil filter housing was easy to get off, also noticed crank sensor wiring correctly routed etc. Oil came out of the sump looking like golden syrup, as it has been changed regularily.Climate and transmission had the Tech2 updates already installed.
I nice experience after my first Mig. It had been serviced by VX and I quickly grew to hate it, due to all the trouble it gave.
Thankyou Johnnycboy. :y :)
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Bp could not make a bigger mess of my drive...it was buggerd when we moved and is fubar now. :-[
I did wonder about some sort of funnel arrangement, but could not really see how to get it in the space and still get me arm in there to undo the cap...?
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I did wonder about some sort of funnel arrangement, but could not really see how to get it in the space and still get me arm in there to undo the cap...?
is your car on the ground or on ramps?
I do an oil change on ramps & can reach the filter housing from underneath.
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another victory for the far superior 2.2 :P
I much prefer the spin-on oil filters :)
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I did wonder about some sort of funnel arrangement, but could not really see how to get it in the space and still get me arm in there to undo the cap...?
is your car on the ground or on ramps?
I do an oil change on ramps & can reach the filter housing from underneath.
On the ground/stands both sides....
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another victory for the far superior 2.2 :P
I much prefer the spin-on oil filters :)
;D oh alright you can have that one ::)
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It's simple. I just make sure my elbow is over the drip tray because that's where all the oil goes. >:(
Kevin
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See what I do is make sure I do all these kinds of things over my mates pit .. that way I tend to soak up most of the oil with my forehead and/or T-shirt.. ;D
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See what I do is make sure I do all these kinds of things over my mates pit .. that way I tend to soak up most of the oil with my forehead and/or T-shirt.. ;D
Yeah, sometimes it just run straight past my elbow and end up in my (arm)pit. ;D
Kevin
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I have a pack of those long gloves that vets use for examining large animals ::), pop one of those on and it doesn't matter how much oil runs down your arm!
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Ahem, sorry, rant over, but I am intrigued, how do those of you with a nice paved driveway keep it clean when changing the oil filter? I had two towels on a large rubber mat, an oil drain in metal tray and it STIlL managed to touch Tarmac. .???
I use Tunnie's driveway ;D ;D ;D
I use one of those large oilpans from Machine Mart. Positioned under filter, its large enough to catch the drips from filter, and also where it drips off tie rod and subframe.
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those oil pans from machine mart do the business, easy to drain away afterwards and can fit under the car when its been lowered
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This one?
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/14-litre-oil-drain-pan/path/lubrication-fuel-transfer-equipment
ooh I reckon I could still make a right mess with that whem emptying ;D
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This one?
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/14-litre-oil-drain-pan/path/lubrication-fuel-transfer-equipment
ooh I reckon I could still make a right mess with that whem emptying ;D
Yup thats the one :y
I keep a 20L drum for old oil, that drain neck is handy for pouring into the drum, it can drip afterwards though, so needs stuffing with a rag when done
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put jack in boot go for a late night spin and do it in tescos car park :y
or on you local mp`s drive way
only a sugestion lol ;D ;D ;D
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I have one of these...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1m-x-1m-Cement,-Mortar,-Plastering-Mixing-Tray-_W0QQitemZ370373388858QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=154611785874&rvr_id=154611785874&cguid=217744341280a0aad3f129d1fefb258d
Saves no end of mess doing ATF changes too ;) :y
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This one?
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/14-litre-oil-drain-pan/path/lubrication-fuel-transfer-equipment
ooh I reckon I could still make a right mess with that whem emptying ;D
Aye. As it happens, I've just walked out of machine mart (vat free day here)
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I have a couple of cat litter trays, a quid or so each.
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I have a couple of cat litter trays, a quid or so each.
yes so did I, placed nicely under the car, carefully and precisely placed to allow for wind direction, would take 6 liters so big enough....right that “cant possibly” go wrong.....so left it to drip out, while i did the oil filter and clean up the mess on the pass side, finnish that and walk round the front only to find a river of oil running out from the side of the car all round the front tyre, aaaaaassheeet, poxy cat litter tray had split as its not oil resistant.....ffs. >:(
Ahahahaa :-X ::) ;D
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Just open it over the street drain (outside the neighbours house of course).
Simple, no mess, no disposal issues! ;D
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Just open it over the street drain (outside the neighbours house of course).
Simple, no mess, no disposal issues! ;D
I've been known to use your bro's driveway. Considering the mess, I thought he took rather well ;D
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I have a couple of cat litter trays, a quid or so each.
yes so did I, placed nicely under the car, carefully and precisely placed to allow for wind direction, would take 6 liters so big enough....right that “cant possibly” go wrong.....so left it to drip out, while i did the oil filter and clean up the mess on the pass side, finnish that and walk round the front only to find a river of oil running out from the side of the car all round the front tyre, aaaaaassheeet, poxy cat litter tray had split as its not oil resistant.....ffs. >:(
Ahahahaa :-X ::) ;D
Hmm I have had these for a few years now no problem,
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I have a couple of cat litter trays, a quid or so each.
yes so did I, placed nicely under the car, carefully and precisely placed to allow for wind direction, would take 6 liters so big enough....right that “cant possibly” go wrong.....so left it to drip out, while i did the oil filter and clean up the mess on the pass side, finnish that and walk round the front only to find a river of oil running out from the side of the car all round the front tyre, aaaaaassheeet, poxy cat litter tray had split as its not oil resistant.....ffs. >:(
Ahahahaa :-X ::) ;D
Hmm I have had these for a few years now no problem,
Any day now then...? :-X
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I will let you know ;D
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Just open it over the street drain (outside the neighbours house of course).
Simple, no mess, no disposal issues! ;D
That is illegal!!
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This one?
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/14-litre-oil-drain-pan/path/lubrication-fuel-transfer-equipment
ooh I reckon I could still make a right mess with that whem emptying ;D
Same as the jobbie that I brought along to Newent 2010 :y
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That is illegal!!
/Hotel21 voice on
Thats an unwell bird
/Hotel21 voice off
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That is illegal!!
/Hotel21 voice on
Thats an unwell bird
/Hotel21 voice off
Cue the triplet-attentive, rhetorical interrogative:
"Ello, Ello, Ello....what`s all this then?" ;D
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I use a washing up bowl from the £1 shop, can't remember how much it was though ::)
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I use a washing up bowl from the £1 shop, can't remember how much it was though ::)
no doubt someone will tell you it wont last ;D
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I use a washing up bowl from the £1 shop, can't remember how much it was though ::)
no doubt someone will tell you it wont last ;D
Usually, they are too high, so get damaged when you lower car with it still under. Worse case, it'll split...
I did use one of those under-bed storage boxes on wheels, but guess they weren't designed for heat/cold cycles, and one day the hot oil eventually made a bid for freedom, all over my drive.
Hence I stick to the proper tool.
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I went though a variety of household containers....till i saw the 'machine mart pan' in use...
Bought one, and never looked back, yes it is an expensive bowl, but I think its been worth every penny
Great for coolant, oil, atf, Even big enough to do 2 omega oil changes before emptying (both straight after each other, not 3 months apart or sommat ;D )
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I went though a variety of household containers....till i saw the 'machine mart pan' in use...
Bought one, and never looked back, yes it is an expensive bowl, but I think its been worth every penny
Great for coolant, oil, atf, Even big enough to do 2 omega oil changes before emptying (both straight after each other, not 3 months apart or sommat ;D )
Three months? I would have stepped in it long before then knowing my luck. :D
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.....till i saw the 'machine mart pan' in use...
Bought one, and never looked back, ....
Which pan are you using? This ..... ? http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/14-litre-oil-drain-pan/path/lubrication-fuel-transfer-equipment
Father Christmas brought me one of these ...... http://www.frost.co.uk/item_Detail.asp?productID=8743&frostProductName=Drainmaster%20(14%20litres) a few years back. The grille over the 'fill hole' is great for catching the sump plug. :y :y
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.....till i saw the 'machine mart pan' in use...
Bought one, and never looked back, ....
Which pan are you using? This ..... ? http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/14-litre-oil-drain-pan/path/lubrication-fuel-transfer-equipment
Father Christmas brought me one of these ...... http://www.frost.co.uk/item_Detail.asp?productID=8743&frostProductName=Drainmaster%20(14%20litres) a few years back. The grille over the 'fill hole' is great for catching the sump plug. :y :y
Yes, thats the one.
I like yours, but a double edged sword.....that grille looks very handy, but I prefer the overall size of mine, can always get that plug back as you drain it.
Looks to seal up? handy for a quick tip run.
I just keep a 20litre drum for any 'dodgy fluids'
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but I prefer the overall size of mine
:-? They're both 14 litres ;) ;) :y
can always get that plug back as you drain it
Not sure what you mean ..... :-/
Looks to seal up? handy for a quick tip run.....
It does & it is :y
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The MM one is reasonably well thought it - the rim overhangs the inside, making it harder (not impossible though ::)) to slop it out. Large area, low height, spout to empty.
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....can always get that plug back as you drain it. .....
Sorry! I get what you mean now!
But that means rumaging about in hot oil at the bottom of the pan. ;D ;D ;D
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I meant the overall diameter of the opening :y
You dropped plug is left accessible on the grille...
mine is available after draining as the nozzle is smaller than a plug :y
Think that clarifies :y
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The MM one is reasonably well thought it - the rim overhangs the inside, making it harder (not impossible though ::)) to slop it out. Large area, low height, spout to empty.
but ...... mine has a big lid for the top, a spout with a cap for emptying it & wheels on to drag it out from under the car on! ;D ;D ;D ;D
15/15 :y
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The MM one is reasonably well thought it - the rim overhangs the inside, making it harder (not impossible though ::)) to slop it out. Large area, low height, spout to empty.
but ...... mine has a big lid for the top, a spout with a cap for emptying it & wheels on to drag it out from under the car on! ;D ;D ;D ;D
15/15 :y
Sorry, Mr B, I wasn't debating which was best, I was simply pointing out my musings on the MM one, that I've been using for 3 or 4 years now. Nothing more, nothing less ;)
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Sorry, Mr B, I wasn't debating which was best, I was simply pointing out my musings on the MM one, that I've been using for 3 or 4 years now. Nothing more, nothing less ;)
OK :-X ::)
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cough!
http://www.pet-supermarket.co.uk/products-Van-Ness-Cat-Pan_CA0876.htm
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Is the machine mart one big enough to catch the mess from the oill filter, AND still catch the oil drain at the same time ?
Looks like it is :-/
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Is the machine mart one big enough to catch the mess from the oill filter, AND still catch the oil drain at the same time ?
Looks like it is :-/
Yup :y
I wouldnt say either is best.....both have their plus points, and I wouldnt swap :y
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Is the machine mart one big enough to catch the mess from the oill filter, AND still catch the oil drain at the same time ?
Looks like it is :-/
Hmmm, I don't do that. I tend to do one completely, they do the other. I guess thats why I rarely get oil on the drive when changing oil.
Obviously, I get oil all over the drive all the rest of the time, just not when changing oil :-[
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Is the machine mart one big enough to catch the mess from the oill filter, AND still catch the oil drain at the same time ?
Looks like it is :-/
Hmmm, I don't do that. I tend to do one completely, they do the other. I guess thats why I rarely get oil on the drive when changing oil.
Obviously, I get oil all over the drive all the rest of the time, just not when changing oil :-[
I always intend to do the oil first, but I can't just sit there and wait no matter how hard I try, got to go and do the filter while the sump drains, and drains to the last drop almost
And thanks Jimbob. :y
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I use a washing up bowl from the £1 shop, can't remember how much it was though ::)
no doubt someone will tell you it wont last ;D
Usually, they are too high, so get damaged when you lower car with it still under. Worse case, it'll split...
I did use one of those under-bed storage boxes on wheels, but guess they weren't designed for heat/cold cycles, and one day the hot oil eventually made a bid for freedom, all over my drive.
Hence I stick to the proper tool.
8 years old now, and still going strong, left outside in all weathers.
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8 years old now, and still going strong, left outside in all weathers.
:P Poor li`l blighter; you should be had-up for child abuse! ;D
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8 years old now, and still going strong, left outside in all weathers.
:P Poor li`l blighter; you should be had-up for child abuse! ;D
Used again today, have to wear rubber gloves to handle it. :D